Sheik’s vision of ocker sharia ‘from day one’

Thanks to Dhumme

“Listen, and understand. That Islam is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.”

Sheik’s vision of ocker sharia ‘from day one’/the Australian

A FIERY sermon by the Australian spokesman for radical Islamic group Hizb ut-Tahrir has given rise to fresh concerns about the group’s Islamist Islamic agenda.

Sheik Ismail al-Wahwah offered a particularly stark vision of life in Australia were the group to succeed in its objective of establishing an Islamic state, or caliphate, governed by Islamic law.

Speaking on Christmas Eve, he said an Islamic regime in Australia would ban alcohol, enforce a strict Islamic dress code, prohibit the teaching in schools of all foreign languages except Arabic, ban money-lenders from charging interest and force the courts to implement sharia law.

“Fornication, whatever, that will all stop,” Sheik al-Wahwah said. “On the streets, there will be only the sharia dress code. Anyone, Muslim or non-Muslims . . . A Muslim street has to be like that. The sharia will be implemented from day one.”

Sheik al-Wahwah also strayed close to advocating the use of violence in achieving his group’s vision of a new caliphate, saying it was the duty of the caliphate to “carry the light of Islam to the rest of the world”.

“How? Not with flowers. It was the army of Muslims which started from Medina, and they went to China, India and the Maghreb. That is jihad.”

Hizb ut-Tahrir, established in 1953, has been banned in several countries because of its extremist positions but has never been proscribed in Australia. Nevertheless, its radical agenda is a source of constant concern to the police and ASIO.

Australian National University terrorism expert Clive Williams said while the group posed a potential threat in Muslim countries, where it could influence large swaths of the population, in Australia it was of little concern. “ASIO wasn’t keen to proscribe them because once you do that it’s much harder to monitor them,” he said.


One more time:

Fitzgerald’s Prayer

Stop, for god’s sake stop, importing trouble—and Muslim immigrants, as a whole, necessarily mean trouble, in all lands where the political and legal institutions, and social arrangements, are flatly contradicted by the Shari’a. Muslims are obligated to change or tear down those institutions, in order to remove all “obstacles to Islam.” It is not special or individual malice that prompts that attitude. That is their duty, a central duty. Why not come to fully and soberly understand that duty, and out of a minimal sense of self-preservation, cease to import those into our lands (America, Canada, Great Britain, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Australia, and every other place that has so generously admitted, under a twisted definitiion of “refugees,” people who do not, and can not, wish our ways or institutions or constitutions well.

Hugh Fitzgerald

No, Islam is not a ‘religion of peace’


Strangely, an Egyptian headbanger has the same idea. Could it have something to do with Islam after all?

Egypt: Muslim preacher says Christian women should wear veils unless “they want to get raped on the streets”

This reflects the core Islamic assumption that male self-control is the female’s responsibility. She has to cover up, and if she doesn’t and gets attacked, that’s her own fault. “FEATURE-Preacher alarms many in Egypt with calls for Islamist vice police,” by Yasmine Saleh and Shaimaa Fayed for Reuters, January 9 (thanks to Block Ness):

Jan 9 (Reuters) – Many Egyptian viewers were horrified when preacher Hisham el-Ashry recently popped up on primetime television to say women must cover up for their own protection and advocated the introduction of religious police.That an obscure preacher could get publicity for such views was seen as another example of the confused political scene in Egypt since the revolt that toppled Hosni Mubarak gave birth to a cacophony of feuding voices.

“I was once asked: If I came to power, would I let Christian women remain unveiled? And I said: If they want to get raped on the streets, then they can,” Ashry told Nahar TV last week.

Introducing a Saudi-style anti-vice police force to enforce Islamic law was “not a bad thing”, he said, and added: “In order for Egypt to become fully Islamic, alcohol must be banned and all women must be covered.”

Few take Ashry, who admits he flew to the United States dreaming of a Western lifestyle and romance but instead found truth in preaching, seriously. But his views have stirred emotions.

With the economic downturn and rising food prices putting pressure on the government, moderate Muslims, Christians and others worry their new-found political freedom is at risk of being exploited by hardline Islamists bent on imposing their values on a society that has been traditionally moderate….

Egypt’s Grand Mufti, the country’s most senior Islamic legal official, has dismissed the self-styled preacher’s views.

“This sort of idiotic thinking is one that seeks to further destabilise what is already a tense situation,” Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa said in a statement to Reuters.

“Egypt’s religious scholars have long guided the people to act in ways that conform to their religious commitments, but have never thought this required any type of invasive policing.”

The Muslim Brotherhood of President Mohamed Mursi, who was brought to power in an election last year, has also distanced itself, if somewhat cryptically.

“The case of promotion of virtue and prevention of vice is within the jurisdiction of the authorities and not individuals or groups,” said Brotherhood spokesman Mahmoud Ghozlan. “It is not anyone’s right to intervene.”

Mursi has pledged not to impose Islamic codes of behaviour and to protect adherents of all religions equally. But he has also enacted a new constitution that has more Islamic references than its predecessor and that critics say fails to protect freedoms and the rights of Christians and other minorities.

Activists say although Mursi’s camp is not keen on religious austerity, stronger condemnation is required at this sensitive time.

“As long as such actions are not seriously condemned by the officials in public speeches, it leaves room for radicals to freely act and impose things on people,” said human rights activist Gamal Eid….

“Islamist officials need to take a clearer stand on their views about rights and freedoms and act strictly if those rights and freedoms were threatened.”…


More re Ashry:

“He advocates what I believe is right,” said Ahmed Mahmoud, 18, in Cairo. “It is about time to enforce God’s law in order to be rescued from all the corruption we live in.”Ashry is just one conservative influence among many. In the six months since Mursi came to power, preachers and vigilante groups have been flexing their muscles on the streets.

In July, a young man holding hands with his fiancé was stabbed to death in Suez, and in October, a face-veiled teacher cut the hair of two 12-year-old girls who were not wearing scarves. Just last month, an Islamist group in Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula threatened to launch a campaign against cigarette smoking and drug use in the lawless desert region.

Radical Salafi figures called for Muslims not to greet Christians at Christmas, celebrated by Egypt’s Copts on Jan. 7. Christians make up about 10 percent of Egypt’s 84 million population, which is majority Sunni-Muslim….

5 thoughts on “Sheik’s vision of ocker sharia ‘from day one’”

  1. Perhaps it is a very wise move by the government to not have banned this organisation of demented individuals.

    Here their spokesturd outlines their beliefs and not so secret ambitions – the public gets to see that these people need to be medicated, not listened to.

    Islam is its own worst enemy

  2. It’s interesting the so-called ‘terrorism expert’ accepts the group could pose risks in Muslim countries ‘where it could influence large swaths of the population.’ But Hey, Australia has a quite small Muslim population, so no worries Mate! Of course, about twenty thousand overwhelmingly Muslim ‘refugee’ boat people are flooding unchecked into Australia each year. Most can expect Australian citizenship and family reunion rights, as well as having a much higher birthrate. How long before such extremist groups will indeed be in a position to influence ‘large swaths of the population’ in Australia? Not too long at all, I would suggest.

  3. Agree Hamid – but at the same time punish muslim countries for crimes committed against non-muslims by thier citizens. For example I would have the Saudi embassadorial staff in every non-arab contry executed for the recent beheading of a South Asian woman – I would freeze their funds, and I would keep on killing them until they themselves publically execute the executioner, police and judges who had any thing to so with the crime, All Saudi students would be booted out of our education facilities, no Saudi woul be allowed entrace .. etc etc. Unfortunately, the scum we elected to parliament have been bought so it wont happen.

  4. They were bought long before we ‘hired’ (‘elected’ ) them:

    Their corporazi sales-masters (who intend to destroy all sovereign national governments, and replace them with their globalization treason, simply because they hate paying any taxes any where to any one ever) simply propped up their sales-puppets, and asked us:

    “Do you choose criminal A, or criminal B, to be your pretended ‘leaders,’ to defer your rightful responsibility to think for your selves to, and by doing so, to avoid and absolve your selves for your own ruin?”


Comments are closed.