Really really wishing Islam was not Islam….

Warning: the delusional fanaticism of the participants in this discussion might fry your brains.

Attempts To Pretend That Sharia Law Does Not Exist

Hugh Fitzgerald

You can watch the debate, held at a London university, here. The Muslim deniers are Ahmadis, which lends a certain piquancy to their lies because, as Ahmadis,they are anathema to real Muslims who call them “Qadianis” and do not allow them, in Muslim states (such as Pakistan)  to identify themselves officially as Muslims. Indeed, in Pakistan they are the subject of attacks, even murder, but this doesn’t prevent them from attempting to mislead non-Muslims about the contents of Islam, and perhaps — who knows? — to mislead themselves.

Note the largely Muslim audience, there not to listen in the sense of “to take in,” but rather simply to hold firmly to their views, to remain resolutely uninterested in anything that might upset the balance of their made-up, brainwashed minds. I’ve seen such Muslim audiences before, and I suspect you have too. It’s a frightening thing, that hopeless fanaticism.

2 thoughts on “Really really wishing Islam was not Islam….”

  1. islam keeps uppity women in their place. it teaches boys to rule. funny how its Not working out for them. the infidel still rules. they forget stupid mothers produce stupid children & stupid children grow into stupid adults. society winds down in every way. ( wer to be the head & not the tail 1 wise man said).


    JESUS: was not married. He healed women, forgave women, and encouraged women. The New Testament teaches that husbands should love their wives and not be harsh with them: Colossians. 3:19, Ephesians. 5:25 that men and women are equal in Christ – Galatians 3:28, that they should be treated with respect – 1 Peter3:7.

    MUHAMMAD: commanded his male followers to beat their disobedient wives. He gave men the right to beat their wives who persistently disobeyed them.

    Sura 4:34 “As those you fear may be rebellious admonish, banish them to their couches, and beat them.”

    The above verse was revealed in connection with a woman who complained to Muhammad that her husband slapped her on the face, which was still marked by the slap.

    At first Muhammad said to her “Get even with him”, but then added ‘Wait until I think about it”. Later on the above verse was revealed, and Muhammad added, ‘We (He and the woman) wanted one thing, Allah wanted another.

    The Hadith also said much about women:

    Muhammad said that women are generally so evil that they will make up the majority of people in to hell.

    Continuing with Bukhari,

    Vol. 1, #301: “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women). They [women] asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands.”

    Bukhari Vol. 1, #28: “The Prophet said, “I was shown the Hell-fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful.” It was asked, “Do they disbelieve in Allah?” (or are they ungrateful to Allah?), he replied, “They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good done to them….”

    Sahih Muslim says they are the minority in Paradise:

    Volume 4, #6600: “Imran Husain reported that Allah’s messenger said: Amongst the inmates of Paradise the women would form a minority.”

    By putting these two Hadith together, we find that Muhammad said that women were the minority in Paradise, and the majority in hell. Therefore it is not a statistical ratio due to the possibility that there are more women than men. Muhammad viewed women as more sinful than men. And the reason more women are in hell is because the women were ungrateful to their husbands!

    Muhammad also declared that women are less intelligent than men:

    Bukhari, Volume 1, #301:

    “…Then he (Muhammad) passed by the women and said, “O women, give alms as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” they asked, “Why is it so O Allah’s messenger?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands.

    I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s messenger, what is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence…..”

    Christ’s teachings show that women and men are equal in God’s sight. “There is neither male nor female in Christ”. Socially, Christ dealt with them according to the Father’s mercy.

    Muhammad positioned females as in between slave and free. Even today in Islamic countries women are regulated to being second class and controlled by the males. This is because of where Muhammad placed them in his teachings.

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