SBS & ABC get help from “Islamic studies expert” Dr Jan Ali from the University of Western Sydney

 Inciting Hatred Against Geert Wilders is Okay:

Just to be sure: the leftist dimbulbs from the state run media rely on “Islamic studies expert Dr” Jan Ali from  -you guessed it-  the University of Western Sydney, a hotbed of “climate justice”, Islamic prayer rooms and the whole Bolshevik indoctrination program. Really, there is nothing to worry about, Wilders got it all wrong; so ignore the “scare-mongering” of the racist-bigot-Islamophobes and wait till the Muslims have the upper hand.

“Dr Jan Ali” lies his ass off, literally.

SBS Smear Job: Inciting Hatred Against Geert Wilders is Okay

Geert Downunder:

“THIRTY years ago, as a young man, I dreamed of Australia. I wanted to find myself a job there. Lack of sufficient funds decided otherwise and I ended up in Israel, working in a bakery in Jerusalem and on a farm near Jericho…” so wrote Geert Wilders in the Australian today. Well he has arrived!

“Cold Reception for anti-Islam campaigner”

The Watermelon Brigades are all fired up:

There will be protests against Wilders’ visit in Melbourne, Sydney and Perth.

Right-wing* Dutch MP Geert Wilders has told SBS he is “happy” to be in Australia despite getting a frosty reception from local politicians.

Those local politicians are no better than corrupt thugs. The fury of fair dinkum Aussies will leave them on the scrapheap of history. Cowardice is dishonourable.

*Geert Wilders is a Social Democrat.

“Even your Prime Minister said not the most kind things about me, and your former Minister of Immigration stalled granting me a visa,” he said.

“Freedom of speech is one of the most important things in our free society and I am happy to be here.”

Wilders is visiting Melbourne at the invitation of Q Society, where he will speak about his anti-Islamic platform in what he calls a warning to Australia.

“If you really want to preserve your freedom, if you really want to preserve your identity as a country that is not Islamic, that is based on Christianity and Judaism… you should open your eyes, learn from the mistakes we made in Europe and make sure they don’t happen here,” he said.

Calling the Prophet Mohammad a “terrorist” and the Koran a “terrible book”, Wilders rallied against Australia’s multicultural policy, saying he believes it could lead to the persecution of non-Islamic groups.

“Islam has no room for anything but Islam, and Islam will get its way also in Australia. People who are non-Islamic, Jews, Christians and women, would be the first ones to pay the price.”

“Islamic studies expert Dr Jan Ali” of the University of Western Sydney responds to comments made by Geert Wilders after the controversial Dutch MP spoke to SBS about his anti-Islamic agenda.

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A response to Geert Wilders: Unravelling ‘Islamic myths’

Unfortunately I don’t have the time to fisk this article  at the moment, perhaps I get to it later.

“Islamic studies expert Dr” Jan Ali of the University of Western Sydney responds to comments made by Geert Wilders after the controversial Dutch MP spoke to SBS about his anti-Islamic agenda.

Wilders stated in his interview with SBS yesterday that there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim, claiming that “according to the Koran, they are not Muslims anymore”. Is it possible to be a moderate Muslim?

The Koran doesn’t talk about moderate or extreme Muslims; it talks about Muslims full-stop.  It is the practice that can be described as extreme or moderate, and it is always from the outside that people can be perceived to be moderate or extreme. But from within Islam it may be not the case. For example, in the west we might see women for instance wearing a niqab in 40 degree heat walking along the street in Lakemba or, for that matter, in the city.  And outsiders who actually don’t understand this think this is extreme, but the person wearing the niqab might not see it as extreme but as part and parcel of her religion.

Wilders also claims there can only be one kind of Muslim, and that is what most would consider a very extreme interpretation of Islam.

He says: “Islam has no room for anything but Islam… that is the nature of the religion.”

I believe that Wilder’s conceptualisation of Islam and Muslims is basically pregnant with expedient rhetoric and pure falsity. In other words, he has a very poor conceptualisation of Islam. He essentially fails to recognise that Islam is a complete way of life. It is definitely not a monolithic system. Muslims practice their Islam in a variety of ways that is very much dictated by their cultural context, and ethnic and parochial tradition. Therefore sociologically these are important factors in contributing to heterogenisation of Islam.

Wilders basically ignores the fact that Islam has a rich philosophical, intellectual and rational tradition.  He fails to register that. He fails to recognise its principle tenets and its centres on justice on humanitarianism.

Rubbish. Justice means sharia and only Muslims are human, there is no ‘humanitarianism’ for infidels.

How do you respond to Wilders’ comments about the apparent suppression of women in Islam?

I think he fails to acknowledge in his rhetoric that Islam gave women rights, equal rights [that] abolished some evil practices in pre-Islamic Arabian culture such as infanticide. Islam established very sophisticated social justice system, bureaucracy and contributed to civilisation in a variety of ways. These contributions cannot be ignored.

Another key Wilders argument is that Muslims live in fear of their own religion; that they are not allowed to criticise or abandon Islam.

To quote: “It is the core business of the totalitarian ideology that if you want to leave the ideology you are not allowed to do so.”

That is Wilders’ own interpretation, his own conceptualisation of Islam. The totalitarian ideology he talks about, probably he is referring to some totalitarian regime such as Gaddafi’s regime or maybe in the past, Saddam Hussein. To some extent, that is true, but it has nothing to do with Islam. The Islamic political system is totally different from the system Muslims actually have acquired particularly after colonialism which is in the guise of a western democratic system or something very similar.

Among the more extreme comments are insinuations that Islam actively encourages violence. Wilders mentions several cases of terrorism including threats against Scandinavian cartoonists who negatively depicted the Prophet Muhammad and those involved in 9/11.

I think Wilders is infusing fear in Muslims as well as those outside the Muslim world that are trying to demonise the Muslim world. That is essentially my calculation, because of his very poor understanding of Islam.

To understand the Koran you simply don’t just read it and engage in some kind of interpretation or translation and you’ve got a perfect picture. The science of Koran goes through a very vigorous process in terms of appreciating the teaching of Koran. It’s a very long process. Even people who speak Arabic have to engage in a very long study to really appreciate the Koran. That’s why the sheikhs who go to study Islamic scripture, particularly the Koran, spend six to 10 years studying the science. Wilders reading a couple of verses here and there and expressing himself to be a kind of expert on Koranic science is a bit arrogant to say the least.

Yes, the Koran can be understood by reading it, but I would say that to engage in a public discourse about the nature and content of the Koranic teaching one should be very careful, because it’s not a simple process.

Wilders warns that Australia could experience what he calls “the problems of Europe” if our immigration policies don’t change.

“I believe the mistakes we made in Europe, or in the Netherlands where we have an enormous influx of mass immigration from Islamic countries together with the concept of multicultural society or even worse, the cultural relativism – the misconception that all cultures are equal – I believe the mistakes we made, you can learn from that.”

First and foremost, our Muslim population is a very small population. At the moment there are about 400,000 Muslim people living in Australia. And the vast majority are moderate Muslims. I don’t like the term, but for description we have the majority of Muslims who have Islam as a kind of nominal identity. There is no real fear of Islam becoming a supreme political force that will overtake the current Australian political system.

Within Islam or within Muslims in Australia we have got people coming from 70 different ethnic and national backgrounds, so our Muslim population is very heterogeneous, and heterogeneity doesn’t necessarily translate to a collective force. Therefore, if let’s say for instance Muslims want to engage in a political challenge to our current system, you will have a very small number of people engaged in that.

Do you think Australian multiculturalism has been more successful than the European experience?

Our multiculturalism in Australia has been quite a successful story. We have this appreciation of other cultures and there is reasonable cohesion and harmony. We also have social inclusion programs, activities, both within Muslim and non-Muslim [communities] and within Muslim communities as well, we have Muslims becoming politicians at all levels, local council level, state level, local council level, we have Muslims running large corporations as CEOs, so they have [become] quite well integrated and I’m sure that’s also the case in Europe.

Wilders’ articulation that Islam and Muslims are going to take over multiculturalism is nothing but a scare-mongering exercise. There is nothing wrong with European multiculturalism or Australian multiculturalism. What is wrong is politicians’ attitudes towards different groups of people, including Muslims.

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16 thoughts on “SBS & ABC get help from “Islamic studies expert” Dr Jan Ali from the University of Western Sydney”

  1. Lots of really nice Germans, good kind people, lived during the first half of the 20th. century.
    National Socialism was still an evil ideology. The Brown shirts beat up anyone who openly disagreed with them. They too were a minority, but everyone was afraid to offend them.

  2. They call this an “Expert” of Islam? And my tax-dollar pays for this travesty? Anyone who has descended longer ago than 1 hour would see this absolutely crap non-answer for what it is:

    Q: How do you respond to Wilders’ comments about the apparent suppression of women in Islam?

    A. I think he fails to acknowledge in his rhetoric that Islam gave women rights, equal rights [that] abolished some evil practices in pre-Islamic Arabian culture such as infanticide. Islam established very sophisticated social justice system, bureaucracy and contributed to civilisation in a variety of ways. These contributions cannot be ignored.

    This eeeexpurt fails to mention that women under sharia have it really sooooo good. They get stoned for being raped. And little girls are probably tickled pink to have their clitori butchered, lest they might enjoy a normal sexually fullfilled life later. Well and women under sharia feel probably very secure, if they share their “husband” with 3 others and can be divorced by txt message. Who wouldn’t WANT to be a woman under islam!!!

    And another thing: why is SBS still being tax-payer funded, when at the same time they have commercials, and their news services come from the terrorist propagandist outfit, Al Jezeera?

  3. Hello Sheik, I’ve looked for an email to send those videos, plus one distance photo, however I cannot find it. By the way, they were not very helpful. You can work with a little bit.

  4. “That’s why the sheikhs who go to study Islamic scripture, particularly the Koran, spend six to 10 years studying the science.”
    Those sheikhs must be dimbulbs indeed when Allah himself says otherwise.

    And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition? Quran 54:17, 54:22, 54:32 and 54:40 Source – WikiIslam.net

  5. There is NO science in islam. and the comments made by the dimbulb simply validate the notion that many academic positions in faculties of this nature are simple jokes. Unfortunately, good money gets wasted on these jerks.

  6. Big thanks to Q Society for organising this!

    I must have arrived after the violence from the rent-a-crowd. Saw none of it, was not approached by any of them.

    Wilders was great! He covered everything.

    The police were excellent!

    I wonder how aware they are of the problems of Muslim immigration – surely some must be.

    Thanks, Sheik, and it was nice seeing you again:)

  7. why don’t all these daft twats just convert and have done with it
    if it’s so f’in wonderful !!??
    arrrghgh…..!!!!!

  8. Chimoio: are they perhaps reverting to their ancestral type, that is, serfs? They accuse certain people of having a “born-to-rule” mentality. Maybe they themselves have a “born-to-be-a-slave” mentality. Add that to the whole PC MC scenario and bingo, they are happy, dedicated, life-long slaves-of-slaves-of-Allah.
    Just a theory…I wouldn’t die for it or anything…

  9. gramfan,
    The police are very aware. However, they are duty bound to follow the law of the land, even if some of it is imbecilic.

  10. curious interview, because Dr Jan Ali was not able to refute any of the statements made by Wilders, on occasions he even re-affirms exactly what Wilders is saying. And that is the case, because Wilders is only stating facts.

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