Wilders Downunder: “disproportionate number of Jews” spotted!

Does Islam pose a threat to the West?

Go back to sleep folks! It can never happen here: CHIP LE GRAND from The Australian gives us the politically correct suppository:

No,  Chip: Wilders didn’t ‘chose’- that’s the only venue we could get after 30 cancellations:

IT is hard to imagine a more incongruous place for Geert Wilders to introduce himself to Australia. Beyond the edge of town, at the end of a flat, single-lane road surrounded by damp paddocks, Wilders chose a Dutch-themed wedding and reception venue for his public coming out.  (More)

Update:

Wilders is “divisive!”

On the walls hung pictures of blonde girls in traditional Dutch headgear. Beyond the dark wooden beams and lead-lined windows of the main reception room, a windmill towered absurdly into an overcast sky. The setting immediately posed a question that has nagged Wilders and his supporters throughout this visit: whether his anti-Islamic message is an ill fit with the reality of modern Australian society.

In the press conference that followed, Wilders spoke about the threat he sees Islam posing to Australia, along with every Western democracy founded on Judaeo-Christian, humanist traditions. Asked why Australia should feel threatened, given fewer than 500,000 Muslims live here among a population of more than 22 million and the nation’s 200-year history of absorbing immigrants of all religions and races into a stable liberal democracy, Wilders was emphatic.

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“If you think what has happened in Europe will not happen in Australia, then you are totally wrong. I am trying to tell Australian friends what happened to Europe, what the real nature of Islam is – how the Islamisation of society will change society for the worse; and it will cost not only the freedom that we cherish (but) anything that we stand for, our own culture – and how to deal with it.”

His best line came in response to Victorian Premier Ted Baillieu urging Australians to ignore Wilders.

“You can ignore it and sing Kumbaya all day long, but the voters will correct him in due time, I am sure.”

Wilders’s message here is a marginally embellished version of the stump speech he has delivered in the Dutch parliament, across Europe and in the US, Israel and Canada for the past eight years. His evocation of Passchendaele and Gallipoli in calling for Australians to demonstrate the Anzac spirit in standing firm against the threat of Islam was clearly a locally crafted pitch. But, as Dutch journalist Rob van der Wardt tells Inquirer, Wilders said from the outset he did not plan to say anything new in Australia.

Wilders is, in parliamentary terms at least, a politician on the wane. (You ain’t seen nothing yet!)

Nearly a million people voted for him in last September’s Dutch elections, yet he suffered a 5.4 per cent swing against his Party for Freedom, which lost nine seats. He was able to influence policy in the last parliament as an official supporter of the government. Now he is just another Dutch MP, albeit one whose choice of platforms ensures he remains a formidable political figure.

In Australia, Wilders has been cast as a lone voice determined to tackle a subject shunned by mainstream politicians other than Liberal senator Cory Bernardi, who for two years has been encouraging Wilders to visit. With his cartoonish bouffant of peroxide hair and commanding stage presence, Wilders has a charisma lacking in Australian politics. Is there a politician in Canberra who could have drawn more than 500 people to the outer Melbourne suburb of Craigieburn to pay for the privilege of hearing them speak on a bleak Tuesday night?

The crowd was mostly old and white. There were plenty of Dutch expats and a disproportionate number of Jews.  “Dutch expats?” Hardly. Only the security detail.

The loudest cheer was reserved for his call to stand with Israel, a country “in jihad’s frontline”.  (“Zionist conspiracy”– anyone?)  Many had been jostled by protesters on their way in. They shook their heads at Wilders’s stories of Islamic-controlled no-go zones in European cities, of Muslims armed with Kalashnikovs firing on Belgian police, of lawless Moroccan youths terrorising The Netherlands. “I am not exaggerating,” he insisted. “I tell it like it is.” He described Islamic immigration as a tool of jihad, Islam as a ruthless political ideology that aimed to impose sharia on everyone. Moderate Muslims, he said, were “captives of Islam”. The crowd gave Wilders a standing ovation when he walked to the stage and again when he left.

Yet what, if anything, should Australia take from Wilders’s message and his policy prescription to turn back the tide of Islamisation? He calls for three things: an end to immigration from Islamic countries; an end to the construction of new mosques; and deportation of immigrants who commit crimes. The construction of mosques, although an occasionally emotive issue, is not a matter for commonwealth law. Halting immigration from Islamic countries assumes there is a lot of it.

Deporting immigrants who commit crimes assumes Muslims are over-represented in crime. (Both is correct.)

The Australian experience, according to the most recent, comprehensive figures from the Department of Immigration and Citizenship, is immigrants from Islamic countries represent only 11 per cent of new settlers. In 2010-11, more than half our 127,458 arrivals came from New Zealand, China, Britain, India and South Africa. The only Islamic countries (defined as those where the official religion is Islam or legislation is based on sharia law) in Australia’s top 10 were Iraq, with 2988 arrivals, and Malaysia, with 2737. Altogether 13,910 people arrived from Islamic countries, including 1027 Afghans, 271 Iranians and 190 Somalis who came as refugees. Wilders provides an exemption for refugees from Islamic countries, as many belong to minorities that don’t follow Islam.

Lies and statistics, the old socialist schtick.

So now they are here, whom should we send home? Useful crime statistics in this context are difficult to obtain. The NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics says police data is too unreliable. In Victoria, accurate reporting of the violence against Indian students in 2009-10 was hampered by police arrest records that made no distinction between victims and perpetrators of “South Asian appearance”.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics offers something of a guide in its Prisoners in Australia report, which records jail populations according to country of origin. According to the latest one, published in December, Indonesians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Sudanese and Nigerians are overrepresented in our jails. So are Vietnamese, Samoans, Papua New Guineans, Romanians and Tongans. All of them, including the 791 New Zealanders and 741 Britons jailed at the time of the survey, would be deported under Wilders’s policy.

The most overrepresented group in Australian jails is Aborigines – the only lot here when Wilders’s early ancestors first sailed down the West Australian coast nearly 400 years ago.

Yet even if the numbers don’t add up for him, there is agreement among Muslims and non-Muslims that the issues he raises should be debated in Australia. Conservative economist Des Moore says Wilders has “brought into the public arena an issue that has not hitherto been seriously addressed at a political level. Amazingly, it has taken a leading Dutch politician … to do this.”

Muslims never agreed that the issues should be debated.

Islamic Council of Victoria spokesman Mohamad Tabbaa says: “Absolutely, it is a discussion which needs to be had on a proper level.” He is concerned, though, that Wilders is too offensive to Muslims to lead the debate, while our federal politicians are not capable of carrying it on. “Unfortunately politics in this country is not at a standard where we can have such discussions,” he says.

No cowards to see here, only the journaillie who’s  got their heads up the ass.

The Q Society, which worked to bring Wilders here, believes an Australian politician will emerge who is willing to join the Dutchman’s crusade. “I think we have started a discussion,” says spokesman Andrew Horwood. “It will happen, it is just a matter of when. We are not the only people who are concerned.”

15 thoughts on “Wilders Downunder: “disproportionate number of Jews” spotted!”

  1. A lot of Aussie Jews came to hear Mr Wilders? Excellent; it suggests that a certain degree of Islamo-awareness is beginning to filter through to them, perhaps not just through contact with friends and family in jihad-besieged Israel but also these days through contact with friends and family in the beleaguered Jewish communities of western and northern Europe where most of the really nasty attacks on Jews are being carried out by the invading and occupying Muslims.

    Further question for Mr Le Grand: what’s so eeevil or sinister, as such, about being ‘old and white’? Just possibly, old people remember things that returning Aussie soldiers, who had been in the Middle Eastern theatre during either the first or the second World War, told them (or their parents) about Islam, and Muslims. Just possibly, old people have read old books, written before Muslim oil money suborned the intelligentsia and the academy.

  2. Hello,

    I used to be known as Britney British of God Help Britain blog. Maybe you remember it. I used to live in a muslim ghetto in Leicester.

    I’ve spent many years trying to wake people up to Islam, as you have done, but knew deep down I was wasting my time. You cannot beat Islam with might.

    What you can beat Islam on though is what we are better at than they are…..humour. What better way to humiliate them and make then cringe with regret is to let them know they worship a volcano god?

    Yes, the Abrahamic religions were all based on the very common human error of seeing the divine in volcanoes. The ancient Hebrews worshipped Yahweh, the imaginery volcano god inside Mount Sinai in Arabia, most likely NW Saudi. They camped at the base of it, they slit animals’ throat to appease it and they established a law to keep the clan inline so as to not upset their fire and brimstone spewing wrathful and vengefull volcano god.

    The ten plagues of Egypt were caused by the fallout from the Santorini eruption, the burning bush was a flaming gas leak on the slopes of Mt Sinai, angels were smoking vents, the lake of fire was the lava filled crater.

    So, we have in our hands a very real way to make Islam crumble in a day. Who would carry on their jihad knowing we were all laughing at them and making cartoons of ancient nomads bowing down to a volcano? The potential humour is endless.

    Unfortunately, this get-out-of-Islam comes at a dear price and this price will be too great to pay by a lot of the anti-Islam community. Take another look at the name of the blog I used to run……GOD HELP BRITAIN. I used to be a Christian until I realised god was a volcano. But how many Christians in this community do you know who would be prepared to accept the price…..to forever give up on their god? Not many…..only the very very honest ones who really, truly, deeply put liberty and freedom before all else.

    So, I leave it up to you to decide what is more important to you…..freedom or holding out hope for god?

    http://ohmyvolcano.blogspot.com

  3. Gathered also were a number of young skinheads dressed in neo-Nazi garb.

    If there were, they were among the tax-payer funded rent-a-crowd “protesters”.

    As to those “juuuuurnalists”: The one who headed his little personalised diatribe “Nazis and Liberals” attended, was obviously projecting the “Nazi” bit, since like his juuuuurnalist colleagues, he was obviously “concerned” about that ” disproportionate number of Jews”, while implying approval of the “antisemitism displayed by muslim clerics”. He so many members of that ” religion of peace” probably thinks that Hitler did not finish his job:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mPzbmjLI_lc/TeKvhB7JVGI/AAAAAAAABXQ/wAZA2enJTEM/s320/antiswmziomelbourneaustralia.jpg

  4. Chip le Grandee is totally confused. Wilders didn’t choose the Dutch-themed place; it was chosen for him, and that was not where he “publicly came out”. His talk was elsewhere and on another day. And that is just the beginning of Chip’s confusion. The subtly sneering tone continues throughout the entire article., fed by embarrassing (not that he knows it) ignorance.
    I can attest that the man knows nothing: God knows why the paper chose him to cover this topic. He is full of cultural relativism and moronic optimism. And so young and inexperienced in life that he thinks middle-aged people are “old”.
    As for Muslims being so “offended” by Wilders that they can’t imagine debating him, naturally they will only “debate” a pure cringing dhimmi. Chip didn’t understand the nature of the ICV’s Mohammed Tabbaa’s “concern”. His “concern” is called sharia law, by which nobody must criticise Islam in any way.

  5. Rreading the articles to which the Sheik linked above, I see once more that the main quality which Australian politicians and their Media propagandists share is an extraordinary capacity for lying. So, it’s best if one can witness things for oneself. I did yesterday:

    “Nazis and Liberals… and mainly old people?” The venue where *I* saw Geert Wilders must have been a million miles away from there:

    The police security forces: wonderful, efficient, reassuring, friendly, a force to be proud of.

    The “prooootesters”:
    One of them shouted a slogan at us which I think summed up pretty much their level: he shouted: “that guy (Wilders) is a fucking German Jew”. And just in case we had not heard it the first 9 times, he continued this mantra. Products of our universities?…*shudder*

    Geert Wilders:
    charismatic, elegant (physically, intellectually, ethically), courageous and inspiring.

    The public:
    a warm, intelligent, welcoming crowd made up of all ages and backgrounds. I hope they made up for the breathtaking cowardice and vulgar rudeness our politicians showed a democratically elected member of parliament from a friendly, CIVILISED country .

    The Q-Society:
    These brave (and disgustingly vilified) volunteers who organised what the local Politicians and assorted anti-intelligent rabble tried hard to turn into a debacle were efficient, friendly, and have my full admiration for their courage and focus. I will join them in the wake of their gigantic effort.

  6. Reading the articles to which the Sheik linked above, I see once more that the main quality which Australian politicians and their Media propagandists share is an extraordinary capacity for lying. So, it’s best if one can witness things for oneself. I did yesterday:

    “Nazis and Liberals… and mainly old people?” The venue where *I* saw Geert Wilders must have been a million miles away from there:

    The police security forces: wonderful, efficient, reassuring, friendly, a force to be proud of.

    The “prooootesters”:
    One of them shouted a slogan at us which I think summed up pretty much their level: he shouted: “that guy (Wilders) is a fucking German Jew”. And just in case we had not heard it the first 9 times, he continued this mantra. Products of our universities?…*shudder*

    Geert Wilders:
    charismatic, elegant (physically, intellectually, ethically), courageous and inspiring.

    The public:
    a warm, intelligent, welcoming crowd made up of all ages and backgrounds. I hope they made up for the breathtaking cowardice and vulgar rudeness our politicians showed a democratically elected member of parliament from a friendly, CIVILISED country .

    The Q-Society:
    These brave (and disgustingly vilified) volunteers who organised what the local Politicians and assorted anti-intelligent rabble tried hard to turn into a debacle were efficient, friendly, and have my full admiration for their courage and focus. I will join them in the wake of their gigantic effort.

  7. @PJG Is “Chip le Grandee” (or even “Chip le Grand”) intended irony, or was the poor clot really lumbered with that kind of name by his parents?

  8. Reading the articles to which the Sheik linked above, I see once more that the main quality which Australian politicians and their Media propagandists share is an extraordinary capacity for lying. So, it’s best if one can witness things for oneself. I did yesterday:

    “Nazis and Liberals… and mainly old people?” The venue where *I* saw Geert Wilders must have been a million miles away from there:

    The police security forces: wonderful, efficient, reassuring, friendly, a force to be proud of.

    The “prooootesters”:
    One of them shouted a slogan at us which I think summed up pretty much their level: he shouted: “that guy (Wilders) is a fucking German Jew”. And just in case we had not heard it the first 9 times, he continued this mantra. Products of our universities?…*shudder*

    Geert Wilders:
    charismatic, elegant (physically, intellectually, ethically), courageous and inspiring.

    The public:
    a warm, intelligent, welcoming crowd made up of all ages and backgrounds. I hope they made up for the breathtaking cowardice and vulgar rudeness our politicians showed a democratically elected member of parliament from a friendly, CIVILISED country .

    The Q-Society:
    These brave (and disgustingly vilified) volunteers who organised what the local Politicians and assorted anti-intelligent rabble tried hard to turn into a debacle were efficient, friendly, and have my full admiration for their courage and focus. I will join them in the wake of their gigantic effort.

  9. Disproportionate number of Jews?

    I don’t think so. Lefty/Useful Idiot Jews are a pain to say the least.

    My son wrote to

    http://www.ecaj.org.au/2013/geert-wilders-visit-to-australia/
    to voice his opinion which is the same as mine: in other words, correct!

    They are against Wilders! Put people off going.

    They prefer Daniel Pipes.

    BTW I would like to thank that ‘ultra-conservative’ Q Society for all this.
    I thought it was great and I thought the police were great also.

    Sheik, I sent you an email and a text,BTW. It’s just FYI only.

  10. I was there at the Sydney talk. If there were any Nazis, it would almost have to have been an covert hostile infiltration of the crowd, as the crowd response to Geert’s praise of the only working democracy in the Middle East: Israel, brought on loud clapping and cheers. Not what you would expect were the place to be full of Nazi sympathisers. Just Google on the terms “Pamela Geller Nazi Islam” to find out the Nazi support for Islam and reciprocal muslim support for the Nazis. I have read that Mein Kampf is still a very popular book in the Middle East, as well as the strange contradictory duality of present day muslims claiming the Holocaust never happened and yet at the same time expressing a desire that it was not successful enough as there were Jews still alive at the end.

    Not sure if you were there at the Sydney talk DDA, but would have liked to say Hi as a long time supporter of your writing on the RS’s JW blog. So Hi anyway :-)

  11. How did he spot those Jews? Were they all wearing yarmulkes? Or did the journos issue them with yellow Magen david armbands first? How did he determine their numbers were “disproportionate?”

    Also, re: “Indonesians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Sudanese and Nigerians are overrepresented in our jails. So are Vietnamese, Samoans, Papua New Guineans, Romanians and Tongans” – by refusing to compare the actual numbers, he’s resorted to the left’s favorite immoral relativism tactic, that:

    “ISLAM ISNT’ EVIL BECAUSE WE ALL DO IT TOO! Whee!”

    ;-(

  12. Whoooops, I got a little carried away above. I am quite verbose by nature, but usually I try not to repeat myself repeat myself repeat myself as often as above. It’s just that so many posts seem to have disappeared without trace lately and I really wanted to say this one, so I just pushed the “submit” button again and again and again .
    Skuuuusemyethusiasm :)

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