Shocka: Pakis force students to unveil for identity checks

Veil fury as students forced to show faces

Michele Langevine Leiby April 15, 2013/SMH

Identity checks: Students in Islamabad chant slogans during a 2007 protest in support of their teachers.
Identity checks: Students in Islamabad chant slogans during a 2007 protest in support of their teachers. Photo: AP

Young women arriving to take their final exams at a women’s college in Islamabad last week were shocked when they were confronted by male proctors demanding they remove their face veils for identification before being allowed to enter the examination room.


Students and teachers at Islamabad Model Postgraduate College for Girls decried the demands as shameful mistreatment and a violation of human rights.

In many secularised parts of the world, female covering is regarded as discriminatory, oppressive and contrary to women’s rights. But in Pakistan, as in many Muslim countries, the opposite is true: veiling is regarded as a woman’s fundamental right and a private choice of religious observance.

(That is typical SMH BS just like the “traditional Muslim clothing”. If they don’t cover up, they are cursed, spat on, stoned and beaten. Don’t let anyone tell you that fear is not a factor)

The students in Islamabad who wore headscarves were instructed to uncover their hair, face and neck. A college teachers’ group has protested on their behalf.

”This is nonsense,” said Tahir Mahmood, president of the Federal Government College Teachers Association, who accused the men of harassing the students.

Punjab University, which oversees exams for all of its affiliated schools, cited a lack of female inspectors to conduct identity checks and said it would investigate the incident.


Actually the veil is to protect Muslim women from rape by Muslims.
Remember, Mohammed encouraged rape of infidel women as a tactic of terror.
  • Terror can be used to spread the religion. [Bukhari vol 1 book 7 no. 331]
  • Terror made Mohammed victorious           [Bukhari vol 4 book 52 no. 220]
It was Umar who persuaded Mohammed to veil women to protect unintentional rape.
The Quranic verse 33:59 was needed as explained in Bukhari hadith.

Bukhari vol 1 book 14 no. 148Narrated ‘Aisha:

The wives of the Prophet used to go to Al-Manasi, a vast open place (near Baqia at Medina) to answer the call of nature at night. ‘Umar used to say to the Prophet “Let your wives be veiled,” but Allah’s Apostle did not do so. One night Sauda bint Zam’a the wife of the Prophet went out at ‘Isha’ time and she was a tall lady. ‘Umar addressed her and said, “I have recognized you, O Sauda.” He said so, as he desired eagerly that the verses of Al-Hijab (the observing of veils by the Muslim women) may be revealed. So Allah revealed the verses of “Al-Hijab” (A complete body cover excluding the eyes).

So Umar persuaded Mohammed to veil women so they would not be raped by Muslims.

Quran 33:59 (Al-Hijab verse of veil)

O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

So when Susan Carland shows off her designer hijab, remember the original purpose was to protect her from rape by Muslims who were happy to follow Mohammed’s example of the greatest man who ever lived. Quran 33:21.
Mind you, countries where veiling is predominant record the highest abuse rates of women.

41 thoughts on “Shocka: Pakis force students to unveil for identity checks”

  1. So the women are saying that they want to cover. Why don’t you understand that? Noone is spat on, stoned, etc. if they don’t wear hijab. Show me 1 example of this actually happening. You’re so ignorant.

    1. I lived there. I know.

      Looks like you didn’t, you live in UNITED STATES, CALIFORNIA, WALNUT CREEK.

      Why don’t you go to Pokistan or to Sowdi and get a dose of the real Islam?

      I have been to more muselmanic countries than you have fingers on your hands.

  2. When domestic violence happens in non-Muslim homes you call it domestic violence. Some Muslims have domestic violence, too. It’s not our whole & it doesn’t make us all perpetrators and victims of domestic violence. Where are you from, author? Email me. I want you to come to our masjid, please, if you are in the US. You can see that we are normal and kind and welcoming.

    1. Honor killings are not “domestic violence”.

      Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (‘Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.

      The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”

      In light of all this, until authorities get the courage to tell the truth about honor killing, there will be many more such murders.

  3. Didn’t what? No, I live in West Virginia. Where did you get California?? Haha, wish I lived in sunny Cali. You don’t even spell the country’s name correctly. You went there, huh? Where did you go? Why won’t you accept or refuse my request to visit the mosque? & if you are so smart, then come there, and teach us all what you know. I live Islam every single day. My husband and I are creating a loving, happy Muslim family. That’s our real Islam. I’m so sorry for you that you’ve created a whole blog and devote so much time to being so unhappy and ignorant. I hope that you will be happy sometime soon and I hope that you will come to our mosque. I really wish the best for you and all people. Unlike what you wish for us.

    1. Fine, so you’re using a proxy. Another search came up with
      Your IP address is
      City: Bedminster
      Country: United States
      Continent: North America

      No thanks, I will not be visiting your mosque. I have seen too many and I have already 400 death threats from your loving, happy muslim ummah. That is indeed the real Islam.

  4. I said in other comments that I’m an American Muslim. Why are you trying to make it look like I’m saying that I’m from somewhere that I’m not? I never said that.

  5. You know, you hate Islam but you are devoting so much of your time to Islam. So thank you for publicizing Islam and making it more well-known. That’s how American people convert. They read hate-mongering from these types of sites and then they want to know the other side. & they convert. That happens very frequently. You’re doing us a favor by keeping Islam in people’s minds.

    1. Why would you care?

      But I’ll tell you anyhow: Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, Porkistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Emirates (Dubai, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman) Zanzibar, and others.

      So what else do you want to know and what is it to you?

  6. So you want to make a website bashing Muslims, but you won’t come to the mosque and let us refute or have a chance at a rebuttal? It really shows, like your immaturity and ignorance that you don’t call those countries by their real names. Like, are you in 4th grade, seriously? You can’t just present facts without making fun of people. A lot of non-Muslim people live in Pakistan, for example, too. Yeah, really, thanks for your website. I used to be like a hateful person like you, so I wanted to know about Islam and I researched it. & now, I’m Muslim. Alhamdullilah. I bet you never went to any countries like that. You’re some dude sitting behind your computer. If you were a world traveler, you would be, well, traveling. Btw, I’m on my iPhone so idk why the addresses are coming up weird when you’re stalking me out. & also, what’s your grand argument for all of the people CONVERTING to Islam? It is the world’s fastest growing religion. Are they crazy? Are they stupid? What’s your argument? You never address the number of people converting in your posts. You make Islam seem remote and foreign. But it’s not. They speak English in my mosque. & about half are converts. & it’s usually women. Why would these average American women convert into a hateful religion where you claim they are stripped of their rights?

    1. Yes I know. Half of the converts are women because they are foolish enough to fall in love with slick muslims who need a visa or an American passport.

      I am nearly hundred years old, I know more about Islam than your mufti and I have refuted all the muselmanic arguments and taqiyya ever thrown at me.

      Btw: I don’t hate, I care for my society, my culture and civilisation, not the retarded cult of Muhammad that teaches hate for “the other’.

      You are such a predictable troll! And yes, its easy to join your cult, but its like hotel California: you can check in any time you like, but you can never leave.

      Islam is Arab imperialism. Yes, the converts are ignorant and stupid to join a barbaric cult they know nothing about, and you are one of them.

      Of course they speak English: its still America!

      The fun begins when you wanna get out: try it, honey. Just try it!

  7. 5,200 in Britain each year (source:
    100,000 converts total in Britain. France, 70,000. Germany, 20,000. (source:
    The average per year in the U.S. is 20,000 to 100,000 converts. (There are very broad estimates) I, myself, meet a new convert about every 2 weeks. Sometimes every week & I’m in a pretty Southern area.

    1. In Britain & Europe they also have mad cow disease, more than 50% single mothers, rampant drug addiction, bird flu and unemployment, so what?

      For everyone who joins the cult there are ten who leave Islam, unfortunately, our taxpayers have to pay for their protection from their coreligionists.

  8. I just had a friend leave Islam. Our response: We’re here for you. We care about you and it doesn’t matter what you believe. It doesn’t change our friendship.
    So hundreds of thousands of Westerners are stupid? That’s a really great argument as well. I guess you’re the only smart one out of the whole bunch.
    I converted way before I met my husband, btw. I converted on my own. Out that hijab on & later niqab on, on my own. With so much criticism from family and strangers. Because I believe in that & I believe that Islam is true. Noone forced me. Somedays it was too hard to wear hijab and be harassed by angry, mean people. So I took it off. What did my husband do? Best me? Kill me? An I writing this from the grave? He supported me and loved me. He didnt criticize me at all.
    My husband is a very kind person. We give a lot to charity and we try to help all people a lot. He encouraged me to go to college, work hard, and get a great job.

  9. How do you know that we know nothing about it? We know how to read. We’ve all read the Koran. Who are you to say that we know nothing just because we disagree with you. Sounds like your “easy out” to me. If someone disagrees with you, you don’t have to consider their opinion. You can simply say that they’re stupid and they don’t know anything. I read Koran. I do my daily prayers. I fast. How can you say that I know nothing about Islam. I know women up in ages who have been Muslim since they were barely 18.

    1. You read the Koran, without understanding. Because the context is in the sunna and the 1400 years of mohammedan history.

      Who cares if you do daily prayers and fast?

      Is that something to brag about?

      “I know women up in ages who have been Muslim since they were barely 18.”

      Do you even realise how unhinged and desperate your claims are?

  10. You’re such a hateful person. I wish the best for you. I have to go contribute to society now. Study and whatnot. I hope one day I’m working in a hospital and I can help save your life. Salam.

  11. Okay then, so you are in your early twenties. Tell me about it, or send me a fax with your favourite hijab attached!

    Btw: I have given strict instructions not to let any museldoctor or a hijabbed nurse near me under any circumstances, even in life threatening circumstances.
    Can you guess why?

  12. Lol, well I know American girls with American names who are Muslim but don’t wear hijab. So good luck with that. LOL

  13. Muhammad also said the following:
    quran Chapter:4 Verse:34
    Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
    bukhari Volume:1 Book:2 Number:28
    Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:
    The Prophet said: “I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful.” It was asked, “Do they disbelieve in Allah?” (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, “They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, ‘I have never received any good from you.”
    bukhari Volume:1 Book:9 Number:493
    Narrated ‘Aisha:
    The things which annual prayer were mentioned before me (and those were): a dog, a donkey and a woman. I said, “You have compared us (women) to donkeys and dogs. By Allah! I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in (my) bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I disliked to sit and trouble the Prophet. So, I would slip away by the side of his feet.”

  14. “Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in God and the final day and does good, they shall have their reward from him and they shall not fear, nor shall they grieve.” (Quran 2:62)

  15. Dear Sheik,

    Well Said. Such a predictable zeal of the new covert. We wish herwell and invite her to leave America for Porkistan so that she can share her passion with co religionists.

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