Bob Carr: “at least 50 representations made on behalf of Muslim in Saudi prison”

That’s a huge effort. Not bad for an “innocent Muslim” on charges of terrorism. An Update from this:

The Muselmama in Perth whines:

Australian Government have to do something – they have to do something.”

Foreign Affairs Minister Bob Carr says Australian diplomats have made “at least 50” representations on behalf of a Perth (Musel-)man being held on terrorist-related charges in Saudi Arabia.

Shayden may have been involved in “anti-government” activity, says the hijab momma.

“That’s like the attitude of a lot of the Saudi youth nowadays, especially in the university environment,” she said.

“They are proud to be Muslims, but they have no interest in anything like [terrorism].

“I’m not going to apologise that I am a Muslim. I am a Muslim and I’m proud to be a Muslim,” she added.

“But that doesn’t mean that we’re terrorists. We practice Islam and we want to live just like anyone else wants to live.”

(A good muslim is a terrorist. Its part of practising Islam. Why would we want these guys in Oz when we got momma already?)

Shayden Jamil Thorne, 25, has been held in a prison outside Riyadh for almost 18 months.

He was arrested in November 2011 after a laptop, which his family says he had borrowed from a mosque, was allegedly found to have terrorist material on it.

His brother, 23-year-old Junaid Muhammed Thorne, says he was himself imprisoned for several months after protesting against his brother’s arrest.

He has had his passport confiscated by Saudi authorities and is in hiding.

Both men are Australian citizens and originally from Perth, but have lived in Saudi Arabia for more than a decade.

After 12 years in Soddy Barbaria they suddenly remembered that they have Australian passports?

Today Senator Carr said the two men must realise that they are subject to the laws of Saudi Arabia.

“We do our best for Australians who are in trouble overseas, but if you are in trouble overseas, you are in trouble in a different jurisdiction, and the Australian law does not apply,” he said.

“You are subject to the law of the country you are in. Shayden Thorne has chosen to live in Saudi Arabia. He lived there for 12 years, and the laws of Saudi Arabia apply to him, or anyone else in his position.

“He has been visited on six occasions in prison by Australian embassy personnel,” he added.

“They have attended his three court hearings. This is a very high level of representation.

Speaking to the ABC today, the brothers’ mother, who does not want to be identified, denied they had links to Islamic fundamentalist or terrorist groups, but said Shayden may have been involved in “anti-government” activity.

“That’s like the attitude of a lot of the Saudi youth nowadays, especially in the university environment,” she said.

“They are proud to be Muslims, but they have no interest in anything like [terrorism].

“I’m not going to apologise that I am a Muslim. I am a Muslim and I’m proud to be a Muslim,” she added.

“But that doesn’t mean that we’re terrorists. We practice Islam and we want to live just like anyone else wants to live. I’m studying, I want to get a good job to bring up my kids. I’m no different to anyone else. Neither are they.”

She said documents given to her by her son’s lawyer stated that he had been tied up and beaten in jail.

“He never, ever told me this – I’m just finding this out now through the lawyer’s documentation.

“I think this is criminal. This Australian Government have to do something – they have to do something.”

Senator Carr said the Government was concerned about the allegation of torture, and had made representations to the Saudi authorities about it.

Middle East expert Anthony Billingsley from the University of NSW says all terrorism suspects in Saudi Arabia are subject to a rehabilitation process.

“They go through an education process, a re-education process, and they try to explain to the prisoners this is wrong according to the Koran, this is wrong according to Islam, and according to the Saudis they’ve had some success in convincing people to change their ways,” he said.

If this “Middle East expert” says so, it must be true. What say you?

5 thoughts on “Bob Carr: “at least 50 representations made on behalf of Muslim in Saudi prison””

  1. But then the bag headed shaheeda would be out in the streets protesting if we removed the Saudis from their thrones. Seems they like dictatorship.

  2. They as muslims were happy to live under sharia laws for ten years – then they fall on the wrong side of it, suddenly find their Australian roots and expect a get out of jail free card.

    Another lesson learnt by another muslim about how sharia stinks.

  3. This story is the result of an episode of Marriage Jihad that took place 20 years ago.

    As far as I can figure out from the reports I’ve seen: a Saudi Arab Muslim man married a – very foolish – Aboriginal Australian woman. They had two sons. He said, ‘let’s go to Saudi Arabia, I’ve been offered a job there’. That was 18 years ago: the sons would have been aged, respectively, 7 and 5 (so at that time, they had absolutely no choice in the matter; the only way they could have been rescued is if the woman had had non-Muslim kinfolk who recognised the danger and stopped them from going; it appears that nobody realized what would happen, so off they went…). They went to Saudi Arabia. One year later, she was divorced (since it happened in S Arabia, I assume that since the Saudi Mohammedan had got two sons, with that all-important Aussie passport, from his blackslave abeed, he decided she was no longer needed, and threw her the triple talaq; it being Saudi Arabia, of course he got sole custody of the boys who were aged 9 and 6; she’s probably lucky that she got sent back to Australia alive rather than simply having her throat slit or being dumped in the desert somewhere). The poor fool still calls herself a Muslim; she should have apostasised the moment she got back to Australia.

    Sooo: Muslim daddy-oh brainwashed the two boys into Islam; one article I saw said that they don’t consider themselves ‘Australian’ OR ‘Aboriginal’; they consider themselves Muslim first and foremost. In other words: they’re gone. They’ve been steeped in Islam, immersed in Islam, for eighteen years. Just like so many, many, many other children that Mohammedan males (Saudi, Yemeni and otherwise) have begotten on Infidel women and then whisked away into the darkest recesses of the Dar al Islam; sometimes the mothers are ‘disappeared’ along with the kids, but quite often, not (and as we see from this case, it may make no difference at all if the woman has converted, she gets divorced and dumped anyway, after all, that’s what can happen to a Muslim female chattel; pass the use-by date and then get thrown away and replaced with a different model).

    This is in essence a Cautionary Tale. Do Not Marry Muslims.

    1. According to what I read the hubby was a Moroccan, but it makes no difference.

      You are right: they are gone. They are not part of our society.

      We should make no effort to assist them in any way. Neither should we prevent any of our cultural enrichers to participate in the Syrian jihad; we should prevent their return, and never assist them in their messy endeavours.

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