Tommy Robinson: on the other hand…..

Tommy Robinson reconsidered

His association with the Quilliam Foundation was and is problematic.  It is impossible to hold him accountable for Quilliam’s disingenuousness when he has not repeated it himself. A good related piece by Ali Sina is here.

Tommy Robinson’s plan to avert civil war: A ”Do Tank” – not a ”Think Tank”

Tommy reveals to Dispatch International what he intends to do to prevent England from sinking into a civil war.

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Posted by: Ingrid Carlqvist och Lars Hedegaard 4 November, 2013

– White working class children in this country are the biggest underachievers in school. They are doing even worse than Muslim kids. That has come from an attack on their culture. They don’t know who they are. They don’t know where they come from. That has all been bred out of them. We have got to give them pride in who they are and pride in their community. You shouldn’t be ashamed for one minute of who you are.

– Working class people have not had a voice, do not have a voice. Even when it comes to little things like the erosion of Christmas. There has got to be an organization that gives a voice to ordinary people. But to move forward we need support from the mainstream.

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Tommy Robinson’s plan to avert civil war: A ”Do Tank” – not a ”Think Tank”

Posted by: Ingrid Carlqvist och Lars Hedegaard 4 November, 2013

In March this year, the former EDL leader had made up his mind: He needed to leave the Nazi ”morons” who had taken over parts of the movement and choose a different path. Now he reveals to Dispatch International what he intends to do to prevent England from sinking into a civil war.

LONDON. Tommy Robinson’s and his cousin Kevin Carroll’s recent defection from The English Defence League and not least his collaboration with the Quilliam Foundation – named after the English convert who set up the first mosque in Britain – has left a great number of people confused and angry.

Has the charismatic working class leader given up his struggle against the Islamization of Britain? Has he finally succumbed to the immense pressure brought upon him by the authorities – with methods ranging from police harassment and financial ruin to prison sentences?

Not at all, says Tommy Robinson. He is as determined as ever to do what he can to save his country.

– We could go on demonstrating in the streets for the next 20 years until there is a race war. I don’t want a conflict because it is our estates that are going to burn. It will be our families that are going to be attacked. We need to give it one more last chance before that happens.

– People who have lived through the troubles in Northern Ireland tell us you don’t know how much you don’t want it. When civil war starts, it won’t stop. It’s the worst thing: war with your neighbors, says Tommy Robinson, who has parts of his roots in Ireland.

 

Robinson is scathing when describing the British political class that has refused to do anything to stop the country’s slide into bloody civil unrest:

– What have they done to prevent this? Nothing! If the problems are not solved and there is a healthy center, people will be driven to the far right. Forty percent of the people in Britain now believe it is going to end in a civil war.

So how are you going to create this ”healthy center”?

– I still have a lot to learn but I’m determined to set up a new organization. It will not be a think tank but a ”do tank” that will give working class people a voice in this country.

 

– White working class children in this country are the biggest underachievers in school. They are doing even worse than Muslim kids. That has come from an attack on their culture. They don’t know who they are. They don’t know where they come from. That has all been bred out of them. We have got to give them pride in who they are and pride in their community. You shouldn’t be ashamed for one minute of who you are.

– Working class people have not had a voice, do not have a voice. Even when it comes to little things like the erosion of Christmas. There has got to be an organization that gives a voice to ordinary people. But to move forward we need support from the mainstream.

 

The English Defence League will no doubt carry on, says Tommy Robinson, but without him. It has awakened a lot of groupings on the far right that are ”absolute scum” and will never contribute anything to solving Britain’s problems.

Nor should one count on the politicians though they have become far friendlier towards Robinson’s positions after he has left the EDL.

– There is a massive gap between what I can say and what the politicians can say. When I now sit with politicians in a TV studio, they may disagree with me but when the cameras are shut, they give me the thumbs up. So do many journalists who used to tear into me.

You are not thinking of starting a political party?

– No, no. We are thinking of a big launch where we will invite everybody and leaders of all kinds. This is what we are going to do and this is how we are going to do it. I think people are more willing to fund this than the EDL. The EDL gets 10 or 20 pound donations. How the hell are we going to take on the best-funded ideology in the world?

 

The ideology Tommy Robinson has in mind is still Islam. But he recognizes that there are Muslims of good will who are as fed up with the self-proclaimed Muslim spokesmen as he is.

– There is a massive struggle within Islam with decent Muslims fighting against extremist organizations. We have 4 million Muslims in this country. What are we going to do with them? If we can bring them out from the extremist influence, then we must. We think that we are on the front line, but so are some Muslims who are battling this out. There are Muslims living in this country that are completely peaceful but have no way to go.

– After 7/7 [the July 7, 2005 terrorist bombings in London, ed.] they set up a task force. A Muslim member of the group told me that 80 percent of its Muslim members were extremists. The government continues to collaborate with The Muslim Council of Britain though it only represents 6 percent of British Muslims.

 

How are you going to keep control of your coming organization and prevent it from being infiltrated by the sort of people that destroyed the EDL?

– I’ll be in charge. I’ve learned my lesson from the EDL. If you don’t keep control, you’ll end up spending all your time on infighting.

How can you, a working class guy from Luton – which is not exactly the center of the universe – think you can change anything?

– We have got the support of the working class. When we started out in the EDL, I didn’t think I could change anything. That was why I wore a mask and used a different name. For the first 12 months I hoped that someone would come along with a plan. We didn’t know what we were doing but it had to be done.

As nobody has come up with a plan, it now seems that Tommy Robinson will have to come up with one himself. And he is not about to quit.

– No, I cannot stop. It is so important, so important.

 

 Tomorrow Dispatch International brings a longer interview with Tommy Robinson.

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  1. Tommy is so right. In the lead-up to WW2 it was not until a leader had the balls to draw a line in the sand (Do not invade Poland!) that action was taken on the battlefield to stop the Nazi monster. Even then it was almost too late. A leader with balls is what it took. If we don’t find one ourselves we’ll be down the same road to oblivion. Talk is cheap – action speaks louder than words. Tommy, I have a plan if you are interested.

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