Egyptian TV Host Kicks Guest out of Studio for Expressing "Controversial Ideas on Religion"

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Moral of this MEMRITV tale: Don’t be fooled by the seeming Western aspect of Muslims. High heels, lipstick, chic dress, for the ladies, a Savile Row suit and  Lobb shoes, for the rich Kuwaiti or Qatari cousin of a ruler you run across being interviewed by Charlie Rose or some similar simpleton — do not a prison-break — from the mental prison of Islam, with its permanently collective confinement — make.

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A discussion about Faith and Doubt. It’s not exactly Jean Barois. Or The Screwtape Letter.  Or Why I Am Not A Christian. 

But it is telling. And most telling of all is the encounter between these two women of Egypt. The one you expect, by her outward aspect, to demonstrate a fanatical faith, is “Dr,” Noha as she is keen to be known, a former Salafist who, though she retains her admiration for Muhammad as a Great Man, despite the many horrible words and deeds, recorded in the Hadith ,that are ascribed to him and of which she cannot be unaware, has who lost her faith in Allah, and therefore, lost the belief that Muhammad was indeed a Messenger of God.

And then there is her interviewer, the host of the television show, who is young, bleach-blonde, dressed well and most un-Islmacally. If you saw met her, in Cairo, or in London, and judged her by her outward aspect, you would  assume she  would be the skeptic, the one with the doubts. But she is the one who expresses, fanatically, faith in every aspect of Islam and the desire to impose Sharia everywhere in the world. That’s the straightforward orthodox Muslim view, and the spectacle of this soignee televisiion interviewer declaring her views with such vehemence, constitutes a salutary spectacle for non-Muslims, especially in Europe and North America, who simply can’t quite believe it when they are informed of this by others, either non-Muslimswho have studied the matter (it doesn’t take much effort to do so, no special skills or unusual intelligence required), or by defecters from the Army of Islam who know, from an early age, and from the inside, what Islam inculcates and what  effect it has on the minds of its adherents.

The blondinka’s asseveration of her faith in Muhammad as Messenger of God, and her refusal to allow her guest even to utter such doubts on her show, is accompanied by, or perhaps more accurately prompted by, to judge by her look of alarm, the fear that others will somehow think she might share the doubts of her guest, or at least should be tainted with the same tarbrush for having invited on, and being prepared to have aired the doubts, of such a guest.

What must have happened is this. The tv host thought it might be a good idea to have on someone known for being a “former Salafist.” That way the guest could come on and denounce Salafism, and  then the Muslim Brotherhood, and so far so good, it’s the party line in Egypt today and no real danger. But the guest proved surprising. She actually said, on camera, that Allah did not exist, that Gabriel (the amanuensis who wrote down Allah’s text for Muhammad, an admitted illiterate). And that was scary — for the interviewer. She felt the need, the felt need, to ringingly declare her ardent desire to see the Sharia imposed everywhere in the world.

Moral of this MEMRITV tale: Don’t be fooled by the seeming Western aspect of Muslims. High heels, lipstick, chic dress, for the ladies, a Savile Row suit and  Lobb shoes, for the rich Kuwaiti or Qatari cousin of a ruler you run across being interviewed by Charlie Rose or some similar simpleton — do not a prison-break — from the mental prison of Islam, with its permanently collective confinement — make.

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Egyptian TV Host Kicks Guest out of Studio for Expressing Controversial Ideas on Religion

Following are excerpts from an interview Egyptian TV host Riham Said held with Salafist-turned-skeptic Dr. Noha, which aired on Al-Nahar TV, on May 13, 2014:
Riham Said: You do not usually wear a hijab, right?
Dr. Noha (wearing a full face veil, with only her eyes exposed): No, I don’t.
Riham Said: So why did you put one on?
Dr. Noha: I did so to conceal my identity. I fear for my life. I don’t want to be killed like Farag Foda. Also, I wouldn’t want to offend my family, who are very religious. I don’t want to hurt their feelings. They get upset when I talk about religion.
Riham Said: Egypt in its entirety is upset now.
Dr. Noha: On the contrary. I do it for Egypt’s sake.
[…]
I am not an atheist.
Riham Said: But you say that the Koran isn’t for real.
Dr. Noha: I say that Muhammad wrote the Koran…
Riham Said: You don’t believe that our Prophet Muhammad is Allah’s messenger?
Dr. Noha :I believe that he was a genius. He was a reformer, a philosopher, a military commander, and a great man. But it was he who wrote the Koran. There is no such thing as divine revelation and there was no Gabriel. This is the most important thing I wanted to say today.
Riham Said: So you say that Muhammad was not Allah’s messenger?
Dr. Noha: I’m telling you that there is no such thing as divine revelation…
Riham Said: I did not ask you about divine revelation. I wanted to know if you claim that the Prophet Muhammad is not Allah’s messenger.
Dr. Noha: Of course not. How could he possibly be a messenger without divine revelation?
Riham Said: How did you come up with that?
Dr. Noha: Because there was no Gabriel. It was Gabriel who supposedly delivered Allah’s word to humans. Since Gabriel himself is a myth, there can be no…
Riham Said: How did you decide he is a myth?
Dr. Noha: I have no proof he ever existed.
[…]
Riham Said: I say that the Prophet Muhammad is Allah’s messenger!
Dr. Noha: Fine.
Riham Said: I believe in every single word and letter of the Koran.
Dr. Noha: OK, but how are you different [from the Islamists].
Riham Said: How am I different?
Dr. Noha: The difference between the Islamists and you, Riham, is that the Islamists strive to implement every detail…
Riham Said: I want to implement every detail of Allah’s shari’a, but I am against killing people who do not wish to implement it. I hope Allah’s shari’a will be implemented everywhere, alcohol banned, and the cabarets will be shut down. I am a Muslim and, therefore, I must implement Allah’s shari’a.
Dr. Noha: Do you support chopping off a thief’s hand?
Riham Said: Absolutely.
Dr. Noha: Really?!
Riham Said: Of course.
Dr. Noha: Honestly, this is inhumane.
Riham Said: A thief’s hand should be cut off, and an adulteress should be stoned to death.
Dr. Noha: This is really inhumane.
Riham Said: If we implement Islam in everything, no [bad] things will happen.
Dr. Noha: How can you say that?! How do you defend myths?
Riham Said: You have the right to speak your mind, but you have no right to call it a myth.
Dr. Noha: A myth it is!
Riham Said: That’s your opinion.
[…]
You seriously do not believe that God exists?
Dr. Noha: I do believe.
Riham Said: So why don’t you pray to him?
Dr. Noha: Because He doesn’t respond to prayer.
Riham Said: How can you believe in Him without praying to Him?
Dr. Noha: Because he never responds.
Riham Said: How come?
Dr. Noha: That’s the way He is. I prayed a lot and He never answered.
Riham Said: Why should He respond when you talk like that?!
Dr. Noha: He didn’t respond back in the day when I was a Salafi woman, wearing a niqab.
Riham Said: Obviously you were impure of heart…
Dr. Noha: No, my heart was impeccable.
Riham Said: He responds to what I ask him. What do you have to say about that?!
Dr. Noha: He does not respond. This is merely…
Riham Said: Can it be coincidence that I get exactly what I ask for.
Dr. Noha: Sometimes you get it and sometimes you don’t.
Riham Said: No, he gives me whatever I ask for.
Dr. Noha: If you asked for a million pounds, I’m sure you won’t get it…
Riham Said: Yes, I will.
Dr. Noha: No, you won’t
Riham Said: I swear to God I will.
[…]
How can you talk about ignorance when…
Dr. Noha: It is you who are ignorant.
Riham Said: Me? Ignorant? Thank you very much.
Dr. Noha: Yes, you are.
Riham Said: I’m as ignorant as all of Egypt and the Arab world. If saying that the Prophet Muhammad was Allah’s messenger constitutes ignorance, I am proud to be an ignoramus.
Dr. Noha: If you keep insulting me, I will get up and leave.
Riham Said: Get out of here.
Dr. Noha: What?!
Riham Said: Get out of here.
Dr. Noha gets up from her seat, collects her belongings and starts to remove her microphone
Riham Said: Remove the microphone outside. Remove the microphone outside.
Dr. Noha: Lower your voice when you speak to me.
Riham Said: Remove the microphone outside.
Dr. Noha: You cannot talk like that to me. I am Dr. Noha. Behave yourself.
Riham Said: Remove the microphone outside. People, take her out of here. Go ahead.
Dr. Noha: I regret coming to talk with someone like you.
Riham Said: It is I who have wasted my time talking to a crazy woman.

2 thoughts on “Egyptian TV Host Kicks Guest out of Studio for Expressing "Controversial Ideas on Religion"”

  1. … Dr. Noha: Do you support chopping off a thief’s hand?
    Riham Said: Absolutely.
    Dr. Noha: Really?!
    Riham Said: Of course.
    Dr. Noha: Honestly, this is inhumane.
    Riham Said: A thief’s hand should be cut off (Allah, Q5:38-40), and an adulteress should be stoned to death (Q24:2).
    Dr. Noha: This is really inhumane.

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