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A CNN Host Let a Muslim Cleric Speak Freely. What He Said about Journalism, Terrorism and Sharia Law in America Left the Host Speechless
British Muslim activist Anjam Choudary appeared on CNN’s “Reliable Sources” Sunday morning, and while host Brian Stelter seemed as if he was working hard to give the cleric a fair shake, the veteran journalist couldn’t help but get exasperated as Choudary steadfastly defended his radical Islamic ideology â€” and joked about 9/11.
Besides saying that he thought he won hisÂ epic shouting matchÂ with Fox News’ Sean Hannity earlier in the week, Choudary refused to condemn the recent beheading of American journalist James Foley by the Islamic State.
Middle Eastern Muslims don’t see any difference between Western military members and civilians “because the general populace of America have re-voted for people like [President Barack] Obama and [former President George W.] Bush, who continue their policy of tyranny in the area,” Choudary claimed.
Journalists are “theÂ propaganda machine of the Obama administration” in the eyes of Middle Eastern Muslims, Choudary added.
“That’s a crazy thing to say given that the only reason you know about the abuses of Abu Ghraib is because of American journalists,” Stelter interjected. “The only reason why you know about the abuses at Guantanamo Bay are because of American journalists.”
Choudary was outspoken about his beliefs: “I believe that Sharia is the best way of life, and one day it will come to America.”
Choudary argued that no true Muslim interprets the Quran differently from he, and said that so-called “moderate” Muslims are probably paid by Western governments to speak out against “radical” Islam.
“Give me a break, now you’re just making up stuff,” Stelter exclaimed in response.
Later, Stelter confronted Choudary about what the cleric had done during the show’s sound check.
Instead of counting to 10, as guests typically do during a sound check, Choudary rattled off terrorism dates, including 7/7 (the date of the 2005 London bombings) and 9/11.
Choudary didn’t apologize.
“If you had a sense of humor, maybe you would have laughed,” he told Stelter. “It’s not a big deal.”
Stelter seemed disbelieving as he ended the segment saying,Â “I have nothing more to say.”
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Published on 31 Aug 2014
8-31-14 – ( CNN – Reliable Sources ) – In a rapid and wide-ranging interview, an often incredulous Reliable Sources host Brian Stelter talked to risible Muslim cleric Anjam Choudary, most recently seen yelling it out with Sean Hannity, over why he engages with western media, how he views the role of propaganda on either side, and Choudary’s invocation of 9/11 and 7/7 during sound check. Choudary, who refused to condemn the execution of James Foley, said that Muslims “see [western] journalists as really the propaganda machine of the Obama machine.” “That’s a crazy thing to say given that the only reason you know about the abuses of Abu Ghraib is because of American journalists,” Stelter replied, to Choudary’s objection. During an argument over whether moderate Muslims would reject Choudary’s interpretation of Islam, he accused them of “being paid by the government to say what they say.”
“Oh give me a break,” Steler said. “Now you’re just making up stiff.”
Next Stelter asked why Choudary bothered to go on shows like Hannity at all.
“I don’t believe that there’s any platform which should not be utilized to pass the message Islam,” Choudary said. “I know that Sean Hannity going to interrupt, I know he’s been rude to some of his guests, but in the end of the day between that I can try to pass the message of Islam, I can try to counter some of those arguments. …I think you can see from the reaction on social media that I won that debate and many people are looking at what I actually said and ignoring what Sean Hannity said.”
During sound check, when guests usually count to ten, Choudary instead counted “9/11, 7/7…” When Stelter confronted him about it, things got really contentious. “If you had a sense of humor, maybe you would have laughed,” Choudary said. “It was just a sound check…If you want to make it a big deal, by all means, do so. But it makes you look much more shallow than me.”
“I have nothing more to say,” Stelter concluded.