"Deeply Concerned", "Unfair" and "Nothing to do with Islam"

Ed Husain: British Muslims can blunt the jihadist threat

Mohammed Hamid

British Muslims are an asset for this country:

now is the time once again to demonstrate their loyalty to their society. Britain is not hostile to Islam and Muslims, but has welcomed millions of them into every facet of British life. …More on the ‘asset’ to the dying, apostate nation at London Evening Standard thanks to Mullah, pbuh

“Not fair”–(another steaming pile of taqiyya….)

HARRISBURG, Pa. (WHTM) –There’s an old Islam saying “Love for all, hatred for none.”

(Except for those who oppose Islam, like Geert Wilders, who must be destroyed….)

“Love for all, hatred for none — it speaks for itself,” said Ahmadeiyya Muslim Community spokesman Mubashir Mumtaz. “If you want to defend your religion, you write articles, you have a conversation.”

B0k-rqUCMAAGQAJ.jpg-largeHe says the true meaning behind Islam is not violence, it’s peace. (after there is no more resistance…)

“There is a peaceful nature of Islam and there is a positive message of Islam rather than fear mongering which only puts us back,” said Mumtaz.

Local Islam leaders speak out against shooting

“We categorically reject and say that this act has nothing to do with Islam and it is without any justification we condemn this act. To say that it is Islamic terrorism is wrong. It’s not fair,” said Mumtaz. …More wrongness, unfairness, nothing to do with islam, and unwanted and untrue stereotypes at ABC27 WHTM, By Steven Fisher

Kiwi Muslims are “deeply concerned” by a Government proposal to put travel bans on would-be jihadists, a leading figure in New Zealand’s Islamic community says.

Idiotic to prevent them from leaving. All they need to do is to stop them from coming back..

If this has nothing to do with Islam, then why the outreach, why the assurances?
Canada lost two soldiers this week in two unrelated terrorist attacks, one in St. Jean sur Richelieu and the other in Ottawa. Both attacks were carried out by men who were motivated by their religion, both men were Muslims and yet we had police officials and some politicians move quickly to tell us this was not related to Islam. –BRIAN LILLEY | SUN NEWS NETWORK

Common sense, here, by Hugh Fitzgerald

Paris (AFP) – While they may not have officially been designated as jihadists, two suspected extremists who killed Canadian soldiers in shooting and driving rampages followed instructions issued by Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State group to the letter.

The country was left reeling Wednesday after a gunman shot dead a soldier and stormed parliament in Ottawa, just two days after another suspected Islamist militant ran over two military personnel with his car in Quebec, killing one.

These deadly acts appear to follow what Al-Qaeda has been preaching for years through articles or videos posted online, calling on recruits and volunteers to go it alone without specific orders or training.

Members of the group founded by Osama bin Laden had always been scattered across parts of Pakistan and Afghanistan among other nations and were the regular target of US drone attacks, making it hard to group together all those who wanted to volunteer for jihad.

As a result, in late 2010, the English-language jihadist magazine Inspire, published from Yemen by American Muslim convert Adam Gadahn — known as “Azzam the American” — lauded individual jihad.

“Muslims in the West have to remember that they are perfectly placed to play an important and decisive part in the jihad against the Zionists and Crusaders… So what are you waiting for?” he asked in a video posted some time later.

Online jihadi magazines have published recipe upon recipe for homemade bomb-making — “how to make one in your mother’s kitchen” being one of them — as well as lists of prime targets.

Any method goes: shooting or knifing them, planting homemade bombs, giving poison, or using a car or a truck as a weapon.

In Inspire’s ninth edition in May 2012, Al-Qaeda ideologue Abu Musab al-Suri wrote an article about individual jihad’s targets — the first being “main political figures who lead the campaign against the Muslims such as the heads of states, ministers, military and security leaders”.

Next, “large strategic economic targets” and “military bases and barracks where the armies are concentrated, especially the American military bases in Europe”.

“The mujahid, the member of the Resistance, practices individual jihad on his land, where he lives and resides, without the jihad costing him the hardship of travelling, migrating, and moving to where direct jihad is possible,” he wrote.

In an eery echo, the Islamic State (IS) group also called on Muslims around the world last month to kill fellow citizens, particularly from countries that are part of an international coalition fighting the extremist organisation that controls swathes of territory in Syria and Iraq.

– Preventative detention, jail? –

Experts have long warned against the danger of so-called “lone wolves” who are often so discreet before taking action that it is difficult to spot them.

And since the emergence of IS, candidates for jihad have been able to flock to territory under the organisation’s control without too much difficulty, sending jitters in the West amid concerns they will come back and wage attacks on home soil.

In one such chilling example, Mehdi Nemmouche, a French national who spent more than a year fighting with Islamic extremists in Syria, is suspected of having killed four people at Brussels’ Jewish Museum in May.

And in Canada, Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, the gunman who stormed parliament Wednesday before being shot down, was on a terror watch list.

“It’s Inspire magazine that started by telling them: ‘Here’s what you have to do’,” said Louis Caprioli, who led the fight against terrorism at France’s domestic intelligence services from 1998 to 2004.

He pointed to another incident in London last year, when two Islamists ploughed their car into soldier Lee Rigby and knifed him to death.

“How to neutralise them? It’s very difficult. We need appropriate legislation, preventative measures,” he said.

“The two Canadians had been spotted, their passports were confiscated, but Canadian legislation did not allow for anything more.

“In these types of cases, the only solution is to detain and jail them preventively.”

France is in the process of adopting a law that will slap a travel ban on anyone suspected of planning to wage jihad and bring in punishment for “lone wolves”.

Other countries are also considering preventative measures, despite fears that citizen freedoms are being sacrificed in the name of national security.

3 thoughts on “"Deeply Concerned", "Unfair" and "Nothing to do with Islam"”

  1. Re: “In these types of cases, the only solution is to detain and jail them preventively.”

    You mean, in ALL cases of islamitis, resulting in symptoms of muslimism.

    Because Islam is a threat to everyone because it says it is.

    According to their own Eastern histories, islam has an official 1,400 year history of “holy” lies, extortions, robberies, tortures, arsons, kindappings, slaveries, rapes and 270 million murders (that’s OVER A QUARTER-BILLION INNOCENTS SACRIFICED TO ALLAH, so far – it’s a larger death-tally than that of EVERYONE ELSE, both secular and religious, COMBINED, and with an historical average of less than 1% of the global population to have committed it with, too)!

    Do the math: 270 million divided by 1,400 is almost 200,000 per year, or over 500 per day, or over 20 per hour or about one person every three minutes being murdered by Muslims ever since Islam was founded.

    So, simply and precisely because of their “THOU SHALT KILL!” cultural indoctrination, MUSLIMS ARE STILL FROM BETWEEN FOUR AND SEVERAL HUNDRED TIMES MORE LIKELY TO ENGAGE IN MURDER (and all other crimes,) THAN EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD!

    ALL muslims are criminals: by their own rules, they must endorse in public every word in the Qur’an, which tells them that they are so “superior” to all non-muslims, that it’s not only their right, but also their holy duty to their god, to extort, enslave, and murder all the non-muslims in the world, simply for the “crime” of not being muslims.

    So the Qur’an is a clearly-written, us-versus-them hate-crime book, endorsing a permanent might-makes-right death-threat.

    ALL muslims are criminals, as being members of the ancient, ongoing global extortion racket called islam. In sharia law texts, muslims are SUPPOSED to be regarded as threats (as “objects of fear”) by all the unbelievers, whether or not the individual muslim has itself actually committed any crimes.

    That’s why we have laws against simply being a MEMBER of a crime-gang or ‘criminal enterprise’ because their membership endorses the inherent threat. Threats are crimes in themselves: they are psychological attacks, also known as intimidation, bullying, coercion, duress, harrassment, activist agitation, extortion, and “terrorism.”

    And even any “only” attempted crimes are still considered by civilized people to be crimes.

    Here’s islam’s “holy Message from god” as exemplified by the collective words and deeds of it’s Founder:

    “I will save humanity by lying to, extorting, torturing, robbing, burning out of their homes, kidnapping and ransoming, enslaving, raping and murdering everyone who even only verbally disagrees with me – and you can, too!”

    – Muhammad –

    Muhammad was really only a con-man and bandit-king, an arch-criminal who always blamed “god” for his own penchant for committing crimes. If Moe got away with committing a crime (and he tried them all, enthusiastically, more than once, but instead of ever showing contrition, bragged about how much fun it was to commit them, and advised everyone else to join in the fun, too), then it was held to be “obvious” that “god” wanted him to get away with having committed those crimes!

    So, simply and precisely because of their “THOU SHALT KILL!” cultural indoctrination, muslims are still from between four and several hundred times more likely to engage in murder and all other crimes, than everyone else in the world!

    So, islam is not a “religion” (at all, much less one “of peace”) nor is it a “race” (at all, much less one of “Poor, Oppressed, People Of Colour”)!

    Obviously, islam is ONLY an ancient, ongoing extortion-racket CRIME-syndicate, and the only “religious” part in it, is where they say:

    “God told us to commit these crimes!”



    We should simply BAN ISLAM – because everything muslims pretend to consider “holy” is already a crime!


    The Qur’an clearly and specifically tells muslims the Bible is wrong and also that all Christians and Jews are infidel criminals who worship a false god, and who must therefore be extorted, enslaved, and murdered for their “crime” of not being muslims.

    So, if and when you consider islam to be a religion, you must agree with it’s main tenet: that God is a violent murderer who wants his muslim tribe to violently conquer the world by extorting, enslaving, and murdering all the non-muslim humans, right?

    Bottom line: If you decide to believe in “allah,” you have declared yourself a criminal, and so must be arrested, indicted, tried and convicted. Your confession of “faith” in your crime-god will help us to do so.

  2. “And it doesn’t help the general population feel safe when they know they are being lied to.

    If this has nothing to do with Islam, then why the outreach, why the assurances?

    You can’t have it both ways.”

    So true and it applies to Australia as well.Why the meeting with Muslim “leaders”.Why do Muslim leaders come out and say what they say when it has nothing to do with Islam.

  3. Who on God’s green Earth can take these dirty, bearded furburgers seriously in the 21st century? They’re f’ing clowns. They’re dangerous, but still clowns.

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