Do you have Muslim friends who are really nice?

“My Friend is a Muslim and He’s Really Nice”

Citizen Warrior

Sometimes when you’re talking about Islam, someone will tell you something like this: “My cousin is married to a Muslim man and he’s a really great guy.” And they will say it like that’s the end of the argument. They pronounce it as if their statement obviously cancels and disproves everything you’ve said about Islam. Here are some possible responses:

1. I can see that you are defending your friend, so let me be clear that I’m not attacking your friend or anyone who calls himself a Muslim. I’m talking about Islamic doctrine. I’m talking about what a devout Muslim is supposed to do, according to Muhammad, and what millions of Muslims in fact do.

2. Is he a practicing Muslim or a Muslim in name only? If he is a practicing Muslim, jihad is obligatory. But keep in mind, jihad means struggling toward the political goal of the dominance of Islamic law. Violence is only one of many ways to work toward that political goal. Also, if he is a practicing Muslim, he cannot be friends with you, according to the Koran. He can pretend to be your friend if it serves the goals of Islam, but if he actually feels affection for you and really considers you a friend, he is doomed to burn in hell according to the Koran.

3. That’s good (that he’s a really great guy)! But the Muslims following the doctrine still need to be stopped, and one very important thing that needs to happen in order to stop them is for non-Muslims to be educated about what is in the Koran and the Hadith. Our fellow non-Muslims need to be made aware of the game plan of the enemies dedicated to destroying our way of life. By trying to stop people like me from educating non-Muslims about Islam, you are actually helping Islamic supremacistswith their political goals.

4. Maybe this Muslim’s apparent goodness is only taqiyya. Another possibility is that he is simply ignorant of what his religion really requires of him. I will tell you what is in the Koran, but only if you promise not to tell him. We don’t need any more Muslims to awaken to the requirements of their faith. Let him live in benign and peaceful ignorance.

5. He’s a Muslim and he’s really nice? Good! It’s entirely possible he does not follow the whole teachings. However, does he pay his zakat (alms)? Then he is probably contributing to Islamic supremacists who are following the whole teachings (the zakat usually goes to the local mosque, and most mosques in the U.S. are owned and run by dedicated Wahabbis). Does he pray five times a day? Does he fast for a month during Ramadan? Has he read the Koran? If he had to choose between Shari’a law and the U.S. Constitution, which would he choose? Do you have any idea?! Or are you simply saying your cousin is married to a Muslim with very good people skills? (Read more about the basic obligations of a Muslim.)

6. The existence of a nice Muslim does not invalidate the statement that Islamic teachings advocate intolerance and violence toward non-Muslims. The fact that you know a Muslim who knows how to get along with non-Muslims does not mean he would not also advocate imposing Shari’a lawon non-Muslims, and does not mean he is not actively striving toward that goal. The fact that he is really nice does not mean he repudiates the supremacist nature of Islamic teachings. The existence of a Muslim who happens to be charming does not discredit a single thing I’ve said.

7. Is your friend an apatheist? If so, I think that’s great. But I wasn’t talking about people who call themselves Muslims but do not follow the doctrine. I’m talking about the actual Islamic doctrine — what it says in their holy books and what nearly all the Islamic authorities have decreed for the last 1400 years — and what is being followed faithfully by Muslims all over the world. Those who are following the teachings of the Koran and who faithfully follow Muhammad’s example are a danger to the free world and they must be stopped.

8. Muhammad Salah was a very nice man too. But he was also the leader of the worldwide military wing of Hamas, a brutal terrorist organization! (Read more about this here.)

9. Here’s a nice short one: “Ted Bundy was nice too.” You could add, “I’m not saying just because someone is a Muslim he must be a murderous psychopath. I’m saying that the quality of ‘niceness’ doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with what a person is capable of.”

Give some of these responses a try, and come back here to let us know what happened. Also, please let us know what other questions or statements people make that leave you temporarily tongue-tied.

8 thoughts on “Do you have Muslim friends who are really nice?”

  1. I have had lots of German/Austrian friends, some were even old enough to have fought in WWII.
    Doesn’t mean the ideology of the NSDAP was nice, or wearing an SS uniform is acceptable.

  2. The “nice” person just might be lying, also. Lying is permitted and Islamic law addresses it:

    From “Reliance of the Traveller, A Classical Manual of Islamic Sacred Law”; The Holding One’s Tongue, chapter, r8:2, Permissable Lying:

    “I did not hear him permit untruth in anything people say, except for three things: war, settling disagreements, and a man talking with his wife or she with him. (smoothing over differences). He who settles disagreements between people to bring about good or says something commendable is not a liar.”

    So, basically, one could argue that the door is open for all kinds of lying, for any and all intents and purposes.

  3. Eventually (- hopefully sooner) because there are NO nice Muhammadans
    the following steps WILL be carried out ….
    1. Incarceration of all Australian and other Western Politician and Political Criminals who are Assisting/Enabling ISLAM and who are also Traitors/Seditionists against Australia and Other Western Countries.
    2. Stopping ALL Muhammadan immigration to Australia and other Western countries.
    3. Expelling ALL Muhammadans -(after Sterilisation)- from Australia and other Western countries.
    4. “Expelling” ALL unwilling to go Muhammadans.
    5. Bulldozing ALL islam’s “Mostgrotesque” Mosques.
    6. Expelling ALL -(survived their incarceration)- “Dhimmis” from Australia and other Western countries.
    7. “Expelling” ALL unwilling to go -(survived their incarceration)- “Dhimmis”.

    Segregate each and every Muhammadan from Civilised non-Muhammadan Society – for their Muhammadan lifetime !

    Remember (and your life depends on this knowledge and realisation)
    – each and every Muhammadan is required to kill each and every non-Muhammadan
    – irrespective of how friendly/peaceful Muhammadans appear to you to be – to you a non-Muhammadan.

  4. There have been several incidents when Muslim has turned on hos very good Jewish friend, beaten, tortured and then slit hos throat.

  5. Dear Liberal quisling traitors and willing accessory enablers of the global islamic crime-gang:

    You know all those open, innocent-seeming, relieved, “Thank allah this ONE person isn’t denigrating my religion and seems to be genuinely open to reason about it!” looks you MUST be getting from your “muslim friends,” – and which you so-obviously crave?

    (Because of course that would make you “unique” amongst all the rest of us hater/ racist/ bigots here in the West, wouldn’t it?)

    😉

    Well… Guess What! Those earnest looks AREN’T based on their being some poor, misunderstood and oppressed minority!

    NOR are they based on their being happy to save your soul by telling you their religious “truths” either! (Despite what most Westerners might commonly have come to expect from most of those puppy-like, innocently naive, more local religious folks around here)!

    NO, those looks of relief are ONLY based on the muslims’ own, personal relief that, if you fall for their LIES, then they won’t personally eventually have to kill you for allah (which would be onerous, messy, and distasteful, even to them)!

    So what you saw were the exact same looks as you’d get from, say, the delusively innocent Jehovah’s Witlesses, but were motivated by entirely different background reasons!

    The Qur’an is more than just another flawed book of confusing, contradictory superstitious nonsense, it’s evil. The reason the early muslims didn’t just walk away from it is threefold: 1). If they even think about trying to leave islam, the others MUST kill them for it! (Sura 4:89); and: 2) by far, most muslims have always been illiterate, and so, because: 3) the Qur’an and sahih ahadith tell muslims to lie ALL the time, to EVERYONE (to their OWN families and friends, and of course to their “infidel enemies”) whenever they ask their Imams if it “really” says they are so superior to all the non-muslims in the world that it’s not only their right, but also their holy duty to their god, to extort, enslave, and murder all the non-muslims in the world simply for the “crime” of not bein muslims, those imams will often LIE to THEM about it, too!

    Just as they’ve obviously done to YOU, because you asked them first, simply because were too lazy to actually read the “clear” words in your own local library’s copy of the Qur’an first!

    Islam’s OWN history declares it has murdered over 270 million people (that’s over a quarter BILLION innocents sacrificed to allah – so far)! And that’s more than EVERYONE else (all non-muslims, both secular AND religious creeds) COMBINED, too!

    So you’re now trying to use a mere anecdote – that:

    “But I have a Good Muslim Friend!” trope, to somehow subjectively try to “disprove” the objective FACT that islam is in fact inherently evil?!

    Back in the day, would you have tried to convince everyone else that National Socialism also wasn’t evil, simply because YOU could claim you had a “Good Nazi Friend!”?

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    All muslims are liars. Their creed informs them their god wants them to lie all the time, to everyone* – to their own families and friends (“to keep the peace”) and of course to their infidel enemies (“to keep the peace until you are in a position of strength and able to successfully attack them again”). Obviously, since islam is only an extortion racket CRIME syndicate, they have to lie to them selves, too, in order to pretend it’s a “religion” in any way; i.e:

    “God told us to commit these crimes!”

    (Capisce?)!

    *(Narrated in al-Bukhari, 2546; Muslim, 2605)

    It was narrated that Asma’ Bint Yazeed said: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: ‘It is not permissible to tell lies except in three (cases): when a man speaks to his wife in a way to please her; lying in war; and lying in order to reconcile between people.’”

    muslims are told by allah to LIE TO EVERYONE, ALL THE TIME: (and all “to keep the peace!”) to their own families and friends, and of course to their “infidel enemies.”

    Similarly, one of Mohammed’s own daughters, Umm Kalthoum, testified that she had never heard the Apostle of Allah condone lying, except in these three situations:

    1.) For reconciliation among people.
    2.) In war.
    3.) Amongst spouses, to keep peace in the family.

    In other words, “allah wants you to lie to everyone, all the time!”

    And, while they amputate the appropriate limbs for theft, not only do they not cut out their own tongues for lying, but they actively encourage it…yet lying is only the most basic form of theft – it’s the theft of the Truth. And theft IS crime.

    So “allah” is only an immoral thief, just like his creator, Muhammad was.

    PS: The ends don’t justify the means – they only ever really DEFINE the end results: If you lie, murder and steal to get your way, in the end, you’re NOT “a great success” – you’re still really only a lying, murdering THIEF!

    “If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths (to each other, not to infidels). Thus doth Allah make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful.” Surah 5:89 (In other words, if you feel guilty about lying, just go on a diet for three days and allah will forgive you).

    “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness (vain) in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.” Surah 2:225

    “Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief, except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith – but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.” Surah 16: 106

    The noted Islamic commentator, Al-Tabari explained Surah 16:106 as a verse that had been revealed to Mohammed after he learned that Ammar Ibn Yasser was forced to deny his faith in Mohammed when kidnapped by the Banu Moghera tribe. Mohammed consoled Ammar by telling him, “If they turned, you turn.” (Meaning: if they again capture you, you are allowed to deny me again.)

    3:28 [http://www.islam-universe.com/tafsir//3.8052.html], 3:118, 4:89, 4:139, 4:144, 5:51, 9:23, 9:33, 60:1, 60:13

    3:28. Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliyâ (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allâh in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allâh warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allâh is the final return.

    And why would muslims “fear a danger from unbelievers”? Maybe because the muslims have been told they are so superior to all the non-muslims in the world, that it’s not only their right, but also their holy responsibility to their god to extort, enslave, and murder them all for their ‘crime’ of not being muslims? That might upset their victims, so of course they’re supposed to lie in order to be able to ‘defend’ their holy right to continue to commit their crimes against their victims!

    Ibn Kathir quotes ahadith which are not included in Khan’s translation but are included in Aisha Bewley’s, in his explanation of 3:28.

    … meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said,

    “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.”

    Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, “The Taqiyah (holy deception and lying to infidels to promote the islamic criime-gang) is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.” (i.e: forever and always).

    Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”
    Qur’an 66:2 “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.”

    Islam elevates lies and deception to the level of a sacrament.

    So don’t ask a muslim about islam, because it’s inevitable that they will lie to you about it, as they lie to themselves about it. Read their stuff, secure in the knowledge that it is immutable and will never change.

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