The ‘deradicalisation’ racket vs the refuseniks

Islamic preacher Junaid Thorne refuses to stand for magistrate

Junaid Thorne….the ratbastard we rescued from Saudi Barbaria. They locked him and his brother up because they were ‘too radical’ for them!

The Saudis deported him,  Australia took him in because he has an Aboriginal mother (A convert to Islam.) Being Abo & Muslim gives him a two sided victim card.

Perth:  Islamo headbanger Junaid Thorne was in court today. Both he and his accomplice refused to stand for the magistrate.

Thorne admitted booking a ticket on a domestic flight under a fake name to avoid police detection. Thorne’s lawyer claims that Thorne had not understood at the time he booked the tickets it was an offence to do so under a false name.

He has also toured Australia hosting lectures at Islamic centres known for their hardline views of Islam.

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Self-proclaimed sheik Junaid Thorne (pictured) has admitted boarding a flight on a ticket booked under a fake name to avoid the detection of law enforcement…
Opposition Leader Matthew Guy tells parents of would-be jihadists to monitor children

“I think there is only so much the Muslim community can do. It’s not a small community, the Islamic community in Victoria is half a million people, it’s twice the size of Geelong.

“To monitor that many people is obviously going to be difficult for one community group, that’s why it’s important parents play a role in understanding what their children are up to.

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 There’s a new racket in town – deradicalisation
Good news for wackademics,  those self-appointed Islamic community leaders and other assorted rent seekers, there’s a new game in town: deradicalisation.

Because as we all know, government handouts are the way to change someone’s mind.

Yes, that will work well, just not in the way anticipated by the useful idiots in government. If you reward bad behaviour, you get more of it. This is not rocket science.

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“it’s time we started holding individuals accountable including the parents of radicalised youth.”

Radicalised muslims have learned their beliefs from their parents and imams who hold the same radical view.

I agree de-radicalisation will not work, these beliefs they have have been held for centuries.

What will work is to deport any people who do not abide to the rule of law of Australia, and do not believe in the oath they took to abide by the Australian laws.

Good news for academics, those self-appointed Islamic community leaders and other assorted rent seekers, there’s a new game in town: deradicalisation.

Anti-radicalisation and deradicalisation are the new growth industries becoming fat on community fears about homegrown terrorism and many millions in federal and state government funding.

Governments desperately want to be seen to be doing something even in the face of substantial evidence that deradicalisation schemes have about the same success rate as pyramid schemes.

The mere existence of deradicalisation strategies seems to be a source of comfort to some, including those in government, but there’s little in the way of accountability to ensure we are getting a return on our investment.

Just what are the prospects of saving young men from falling into extremism or deradicalising those who have succumbed to the head-chopping, prisoner-burning, women-stoning sadism of Islamic State? Clive Kessler, emeritus professor of sociology and anthropology at the University of NSW, describes deradicalisation as bringing extremists “back into the community’s fold by efforts directed at some kind of thought-reform, faith rectification or intellectual realignment and reabsorption”.

But unlike some of his colleagues in academia who have jumped on the anti-terror gravy train, Prof Kessler, who has studied Islam, including militant Islam, for more than 50 years, can see that deradicalisation is a strategy doomed for failure.

The main reason being that the extremists within the faith are not guilty of heresy, indeed they represent many of the same views and belief systems that are entirely compatible with the doctrine of Islam. Prof Kessler explains that an equal number of Muslims worldwide, around 10 to 15 per cent, are either “modernist, reform-minded and democratic” or militant extremists who support violent action.

The remaining 70 to 80 per cent make up the mainstream Muslim population and it is the views of this core group that ultimately determine whether deradicalisation is a fanciful notion or a genuine risk-minimisation strategy.

Prof Kessler writes: “The basic facts are clear. Like the radical fringe or fundamentalist extreme, the Muslim mainstream adheres to, through explicit affirmation or by unreflecting habitual assent, the same underlying propositions that constitute the radical and militant world view.

“So there is no ground within the mainstream for calling back the deviant minority; no distinctive standpoint, authentic and authoritative, to which the radicals may be called to return by abandoning their own identifiable heresies. So long as the two outlooks remain basically congruent and complementary, so-called deradicalisation of the militants back into the mainstream cannot work. It is not a likely prospect. It cannot succeed so long as the mainstream is not distinctively different in its basic attitudes from the radicals.”

The lie that IS and other Islamist terror groups have nothing to do with Islam is one that world leaders, including our own politicians, are keen to parrot.

The unpalatable truth is that the lines are far more blurred than those in power are willing to admit. Many cling to the simplistic notion that radicalisation is linked to poverty, even though that theory has been debunked.

The latest study to disprove the poverty/terror link was conducted in the UK by Queen Mary University which found that the group which was most at risk of falling into radicalisation were young, well-educated men from wealthy families.

That experience is echoed in Australia where privileged young men with excellent prospects decide to devote their life to jihad.

Terror suspect and IS enthusiast Abdul Numan Haider, who was shot dead after launching a vicious knife attack against two counter-terrorism officers, was a bright young man living a comfortable lifestyle in the Melbourne outer suburbs.

But he turned against the country that had embraced him and his family. Instead of following in his older brothers’ footsteps, both of whom are enrolled in sought-after university courses, Haider chose the path of jihad.

Similarly, the latest Victorian charged with terrorism offences, a 17-year-old accused of planning a Mother’s Day attack, is from a supportive and affluent Syrian family.

It’s wrong to assume those who fall into Islamic extremism are all young, disenfranchised men from disadvantaged backgrounds with little in the way of family or community support.

Man Haron Monis was hardly a teenager and there have been women who have left the safety of Australia to become jihadi brides in the Middle East.

It should be a source of great concern for not just the Islamic community but the wider population that there are more Muslims who have gone to Syria and Iraq to fight with IS than there are serving in the Australian Army.

Latest figures suggest that around 35 Australians have been killed fighting with IS and a further 150 to 350 have gone to the Middle East to join radical militant groups but only about 100 of the nation’s 30,000 soldiers identify as Muslim.

Instead of squandering tens of millions on deradicalisation and anti-radicalisation schemes, it’s time we started holding individuals accountable including the parents of radicalised youth.

It is imperative that the Australian community is protected from returning jihadis and if that means revoking their Australian citizenship, then so be it.

They made their choice when they ventured to a war zone to stand alongside Australia’s enemies.

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