Wally rubs it

Wally praises the benefits that come with returning head choppers. You are very welcome to comment, dear reader…..

Waleed Aly: Rejecting those who rejected us doesn’t solve the problem
Returning terrorists can reveal the horrors of IS with more credibility than anyone else. So why strip their citizenship?
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ISIL, as it confronts us in Australia, is not a conventional army or even a structured terrorist organisation, but a movement to which people recruit themselves.
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As things stand, you could murder the Queen, the Governor-General and the Prime Minister, and keep your citizenship. You’d be guilty of treason. You’d almost certainly go to prison for life. But you’d die as an incarcerated Australian, even if you had dual citizenship.

Australians, you see, can be just about anything. We can be frauds, armed robbers and rapists; embezzlers, torturers and serial killers. We’ll be named, shamed and imprisoned for these things, but none of them we deem sufficient to extinguish our nationality. If you’re born an Australian citizen, it’s damn hard to lose that.

Are these people of more use to us stuck in Syria than they would be telling other Australians about the horrors of ISIL with vastly more credibility than anyone else?

That’s what is so significant about the Abbott government’s policy, confirmed this week, to strip dual nationals who’ve joined ISIL of their Australian citizenship. It reveals that these crimes exist in a separate category, characterised not merely by their badness, but by their betrayal.

Illustration: Andrew DysonIllustration: Andrew Dyson

That’s what makes terrorism such a special case even though it kills so few Australians compared to, say, car accidents or domestic violence. Those events we characterise (however incorrectly) as private tragedies: offences against private victims. Terrorism is an offence against our public selves. The scale of its repugnance lies not in the direct damage it does, which is limited, but in the symbolic damage inherent in such a violent rejection of the collective us.

That’s why there’s a catharsis in stripping citizenship from these people. It’s a secular act of excommunication. And, just like its religious counterpart, it makes us feel better about those still in the fold. We’re purifying ourselves of disbelievers. But this implicitly requires us to view terrorism in one of two ways: either as war, or as unconventional politics.

The war analogy, of course, has dominated our discourse on terrorism since the September 11 attacks, and explains why it is that the only other way for a dual national to lose an Australian citizenship acquired at birth is to serve in the armed forces of a country fighting ours. But hereabouts we run into problems. First, that if the post-9/11 era has taught us anything, it is that treating terrorism as war has been a ghastly failure. It has only compounded the disaster and amplified the problem to the extent we now consider a terrorist attack on home soil more likely than at any other time in our history.

But secondly – and more intriguingly – this approach is increasingly at odds with the way governments and security organisations are talking about terrorism. This is the era of “radicalisation”; of lone-wolves and kids succumbing to radical propaganda. Islamic State, as it confronts us in Australia, is not a conventional army or even a structured terrorist organisation, but a movement to which people recruit themselves. That’s why the Prime Minister spends so much time talking about the role of the internet. It’s why we talk about young Muslims being “groomed” by recruiters in a similar way to the victims of paedophiles. We’re beginning to recognise that we can’t simply bomb terrorism out of existence. The task now is to persuade people not to be seduced. No military can do that. That is a task of politics.

The trouble, though, is that we take the logic of terrorism as politics only so far before we abandon it. Take the other major recent development: Australians who’ve gone to Syria only to discover that beneath Islamic State’s utopian promise is a gruesome lie. Now they’re trying to get out and come home. And as more Australians inevitably make the same discovery, we’ll see a lot more of this.

This might just be the best news we’ve had in a year. We’ve been sweating on precisely this kind of crack in the edifice of IS propaganda. The truth is that we can brand IS as “death cult” all we like. We can condemn it on some kind of relentless loop if it satisfies us but, in practical terms, none of it means a thing when it comes from the mainstream. Radical politics expects mainstream rejection – indeed it requires that for its own legitimacy. When we tell ourselves how evil IS is, we need to be clear: this is a performance for our own benefit, not to persuade people who might otherwise be charmed.

The one thing radical politics cannot withstand is when its own true believers reveal its hypocrisy. The Caliph may have no clothes, but it’s his subjects who must call it out. And yet it is precisely at this juncture that we refuse to take advantage.

Asked about the possible return of such people, the government eagerly reiterates: we don’t want them back, but if we must receive them, we have no interest in anything other than punishing them. That impulse is easy to understand: after all, the crime is clear. But is the impulse strategic? Are these people of more use to us stuck in Syria than they would be telling other Australians about the horrors of IS with vastly more credibility than anyone else? Is the aim to punish them, or stem further recruitment? Are we after vengeance, or some manner of victory?

To be clear, I’m not advocating such crimes go unpunished. Even the lawyers of these people accept they’ll be prosecuted. But it’s telling that we can see nothing beyond this; that we so resolutely refuse even to acknowledge this potential gift because we’re too busy reiterating our hatred for these people. Somehow, it was easier to accept the idea of Soviet spies defecting to the West in the Cold War than it is for us to imagine someone might have joined ISIL naively, and has discovered their error.

Maybe that’s because they rejected us first. Maybe it’s an extension of the catharsis we feel when we extinguish someone’s citizenship. But here’s the danger: by rejecting anything that doesn’t begin and end with condemnation – as if by reflex – we’re surrendering the politics of terrorism in precisely the way ISIL so effectively isn’t.

Waleed Aly is a Fairfax Media columnist and winner of the 2014 Walkley award for best columnist. He also lectures in politics at Monash University.

6 thoughts on “Wally rubs it”

  1. Waleed Aly is a lying mooseskum who claims Oz was islamic since the 1600s.

    The turd needs to be removed from public view.

  2. Leave them there it is a muslim utopian paradise . Do not stop muslims from leaving as that is not aloowing religious freedom
    ohh take ally oop with you

    muslims are haram living with the kuffar

  3. Waleed always has a lot of empathy for his co-religionists (look up his commentary on the Hyde Park riots). Several of these Hyde Park thugs then graduated to Syria. But Waleed never has a word for those being killed, terrorized and traumatized by his own co-religionists in the name of Islam.
    Perhaps Aly would like to get these returned ISIS fascists onto a Q and A panel, an episode of Australian story or a university guest lecturer position ? Orpositions as Fairfax media columnists?
    Just as importantly, Waheed Aly’s position as an “academic” says a lot about the alarming state of out universities and the biased garbage being force-fed the naive students therein.

  4. Wally’s sleight of hand is to continually use the pronouns ‘we’ and ‘us’ in addressing real Australians . This is entirely inappropriate as the ‘we’ and ‘us’ when Waleed Aly is concerned is acually sunni muslims.

    “Returning terrorists can reveal the horrors of IS with more credibility than anyone else. So why strip their citizenship?”

    Wally, stop insulting the intelligence of your intended audience – it makes you look like a conman or a fool. Why do you make make such disingenuous suggestions?
    You know full well that these days evidence can be given in court via video link so there is absolutely no need to return them and spend taxpayer dollars to clog up our jails. Just get them to make their admissions on YouTube and never let them back into Australia

  5. “Returning terrorists can reveal the horrors of IS with more credibility than anyone else.”
    By killing us, which is probably the deal they made with IS to be allowed to come “home”.

  6. Waylaid by Waleed! Soothsayer to the incurably sycophantic MSM and other bleeding heart moral inverts.

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