Is a Peaceful or at Least Orderly Resolution Possible?

This is an important post from the Gates of Vienna, which I’m posting here in its entirety. Your feedback is much appreciated.

A reader named Oren has left a series of comments on several posts covering the topic of “moderate Islam”. Although his viewpoint is at variance with my own, his comments provide some thoughtful observations that are worth additional exploration.

Oren left the following comment on one of last weekend’s posts. I’ve bolded the parts that merit further discussion:

It is apparent from the post above, that the Baron has given up all hope on the seeing the conflict between Islam and the West being resolved in any peaceful or at least orderly way. If I understand correctly he foresees some sort of a “collapse”, in which Western countries will break down completely, and the survivors will have to form armed militias in order to protect their homes from pillaging Islamic gangs. I do not discount this scenario entirely, but I do see it as improbable.

I personally believe it is more likely that in the upcoming decades existing nation states will remain more or less intact. A global economic crisis is almost inevitable, as I often explain in my own blog. This crisis will impoverish most of humanity, and may aggravate the already tense social pressures existing in most Western European countries. Some of them, like Sweden for instance, who have imported more third world migrants than others as a percentage of the population, may experience civil wars. This scenario is less chaotic than what the Baron suggests, but it is brutal and bloody nonetheless.

However, I do see a third option, which can minimize all this blood and gore. This option involves a rapid shift of the political map towards the right, which will bring to power people like Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen. These newly elected leaders, assuming they act swiftly and decisively, may yet prevent the supposed “collapse”. Here are but a few measures they can take, which may stop the process of Islamization, and which do not constitute grave human rights violations. For starters, they can halt all immigration to Europe. They can prosecute any Imam who is preaching hate and violence under existing incitement and sedition laws. They can deport any immigrant who is convicted of terrorism, or any other crimes for that matter. They can place Mosques and other Islamic organizations under surveillance. They can block the foreign Saudi money which is funding these operations. They can reform their entitlement systems, and make it impossible for new immigrants to live on the dole. I argue that all these measures, if enforced stringently, can not only stop the process of Islamization but even reverse it to a certain extent, as many of the recently arrived migrants will opt to leave, rather than work for a living, god forbid. One may argue that such measures will not be taken peacefully by the Islamic population in Europe, and that may truly be the case. But Muslims nowadays still do not constitute a majority of the fighting age population in Europe (and certainly not in the US), and any violence they do exhibit will not constitute an existential threat, and will only grant the governments greater legitimacy to use force against them.

As you can see, I believe it is not too late for the Western world to avert this catastrophe through the political arena. This is why I believe it is so important for the counter Jihad movement to gain popularity. It is true that the left will never grant us legitimacy, and that the co-opted main stream media will always remain hostile towards us. But we here in Israel have proven that these are not real obstacles on the way to political power. The Israeli public has long ago realized that the left is collaborating with the enemy, and that the media is biased, and as a result we have elected a strong government which is ready to fight Jihad terrorism. When I mentioned on my earlier comments “the moderate sections of society” I was simply referring to the majority of the voters. Be they men or women, religious or atheists, straight or gay. The personal liberties of all of these groups are threatened by Islam, and therefore they are able to unite under the banner of Counter-Jihad.

Now is the time to discuss the dreaded “moderate Muslim” issue. Many of you have argued that such a creature does not exist, or that they are an insignificant minority at best. This may be true, but nevertheless I claim that we cannot shut the door before such individuals, not for their sake as much as for our own sake. Once the West has closed its borders and effectively cracked down on Islamic terrorism, we will still be left with millions of Muslim citizens, most of which have never broken any law, or had anything to do with terrorism. If we wish to preserve Western notions of human rights, equality before the law, indeed the very principle of “innocent until proven guilty”, we shall have to allow them to live as equal citizens. Again I go back to the example of Israel. Many people are not aware of it, but there are some 1.5 million Muslims living within the 1967 borders as fully equal Israeli citizens. On occasion some of them will collaborate with the Palestinians and carry out an act of terrorism or civil disorder, but for the best part they keep quite, because they are a minority and because the Israeli state is asserting itself strongly enough. Many of them are coming to realize that as Israeli citizens they enjoy more freedom and prosperity than anywhere else in the middle east, and are slowly assimilating.

Certainly, this is not an ideal situation, but let’s consider the alternative for a moment. Imagine that an overzealous Europe will ban the religion of Islam altogether, and demand all its Muslims to convert or leave. Many will pretend to convert but remain Muslim in secrecy. How will the state possibly be able to tell who is a Muslim and who is not? Will it revive the old Spanish Inquisition in order to identify the crypto Muslims? This will be the end of freedom of conscience, not just for Muslims but for the rest of society as well. Next, what will they do with all the Muslims who will not want to leave? Will they round them up and put them in camps? This will be a nightmare. One quickly realizes that mass deportation of citizens who have committed no crime is impossible.Whether they are truly “moderate Muslims” or not is beside the point. We shall have to assume that they are unless they prove otherwise.

Last but not least, I highly recommend against “nation building” or any other military involvement of Western powers in the middle east. I have objected to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan from the very start, knowing that no one can reform Islamic societies other than Muslims themselves, and that this may take centuries to unfold. Instead I recommend containment. In other words, closing the borders, reducing all interactions with Islamic countries to the bare minimum, and investing resources in finding alternatives to middle eastern oil.

This is the message I repeat time and time again on the social media – hope is not lost. Have some faith in your own people and in their basic survival instincts.

This time I’ve taken the bolded sections and turned them into discrete questions, which I’ll do my best to answer:

Have I given up all hope on the seeing the conflict between Islam and the West being resolved in any peaceful or at least orderly way?

After the events of 2015 I have very little hope left that there can be any peaceful resolution to the crisis presented by Islam. Up until this past summer there seemed to be at least a slim chance that somehow, despite the odds, the West might wake up and begin taking the necessary measures to cope with the grave civilizational threat posed by Islam.

Depending on which estimates one accepts — and nobody really knows for sure — somewhere between 5,000 and 100,000 Islamic terrorists walked into Europe last summer and fall along with the “refugees”. They were dropped off on one of the Greek islands (after paying hefty fees to the people smugglers) and then ferried to the mainland. From there they traveled by train and bus to their final destination, which in most cases was Germany. The expense was borne by the EU, European governments, and various NGOs. Many of these new European terrorists are operatives for the Islamic State.

So the Islamic State has come to Europe, with the intention of replicating on the continent the wasteland of sorrow and degradation it left behind in the Middle East. Thousands and thousands of trained, hardened, brutal mujahideen, ready to commit violence against the kuffar in Europe.

That’s why I’m not optimistic about the chances for resolving the conflict between Islam and the West in a peaceful or orderly way.

Will the wars be civil wars?

Not in the traditional sense. A civil war is a war between factions within a more or less homogeneous nation. In the English Civil War, Englishmen fought Englishmen. In the Russian Civil War, Communist Russians fought Monarchist Russians. Until very recently, no other kind of civil war was imaginable.

But now we have the possibility of war within a nation between the original native inhabitants and a hostile, alien population that is already resident and distributed throughout the host country. This is not a civil war, and the only way it differs from a traditional invasion is that the invaders were invited in and deliberately imported by the ruling class of each country.

As Fjordman said:

The European Union is the principal motor behind the Islamization of Europe. It is formally surrendering an entire continent to Islam while destroying established national cultures, and is prepared to harass those who disagree with this policy.

This is the greatest organized betrayal in Western history.

Will the rapid shift of the political map be towards the right?

The anti-immigration parties are hardly of the “right”. They range from the classically liberal (e.g. Geert Wilders’ PVV) to the Front National, which would be called “national socialist” if that descriptive hadn’t been poisoned forever by the Nazis. But Marine Le Pen, like the leaders of other parties that resist immigration and Islamization, promotes a standard social-democratic form of socialism under a patriotic banner. There doesn’t have to be any Jew-hatred or totalitarianism for a party to be national socialist.

My point is that there is no significant presence of traditional right-wing parties among those that oppose mass immigration into Europe. No monarchist groups pushing for a return to the days of emperors and the divine right of kings, just a range from centrists to socialists — the right is not represented.

Is it possible to halt all immigration to Europe?

Well, what do you think? What indications are that even the rate of increase in immigration will be dampened?

After a decade of watching Western European immigration politics closely, one fact stands out: no matter what party is in power, the rate of Third-World immigration tends to remain the same, or increase. The Social Democrats, the Greens, the Christian Democrats, Labour, Conservatives, center-left, center-right — all of them implement more or less the same policies. They all promise to get tough on immigrant criminals and correct the abuses, but nothing really changes.

A change might be possible if one of the “far right” parties gained power — the PVV in the Netherlands, Sverigedemokraterna in Sweden, the Front National in France, etc. — but the existing power structure is doing everything it can to make it impossible for such parties to form governments. In a parliamentary system, if all the other parties establish a cordon sanitaire around an immigration-critical party, such a party would have to gain an absolute majority in order to rule — a very unlikely event.

Furthermore, the fact that leaders of such parties are demonized in the press, hounded by the state, and repeatedly prosecuted for “hate speech” makes their chances of governing slimmer still.

The campaign against those who would halt immigration is so uniformly relentless and extensive across the entire continent that we may assume it is being ordered and orchestrated at a supranational level. Somebody, or some consortium of somebodies, is expending enormous quantities of money, effort, and manpower to make sure that the flow of immigrants into Europe remains unimpeded.

How many imams are likely to be prosecuted for preaching hate and violence under existing incitement and sedition laws?

Based on past experience, not many. And based on the current trend — which is to allow in more hate-preaching imams and then refuse to prosecute them — not many will be.

This is especially true in the UK, The Netherlands, Belgium, and Sweden. France is somewhat more likely to deport foreigners who incite violence. And, in an encouraging trend, Norway recently deported hundreds of convicted criminals (mostly Muslims, needless to say), and saw a dramatic drop in its national crime rate as a result.

Will significant numbers of immigrants be deported after being convicted of terrorism, or any other crimes?

See the above — the trends indicate that deportation will be a lightly-used option. And the ECHR is notorious for stepping in to prevent deportation, on the grounds that the would-be deportee has a “right to a family life”, or some other right requiring that he be allowed to stay where he is.

Will Western governments place mosques and other Islamic organizations under surveillance?

Western governments already have mosques under surveillance. I guarantee it. The problem is, they have to hide that fact, and keep their operations secret as much as possible. This sometimes prevents surveillance material from being used in court cases. And if the authorities are caught at it, such programs are stopped or gutted, at least temporarily.

Mass surveillance, publicly acknowledged, is an impossibility unless Islam is officially recognized as a clear and present danger to Western Civilization.

Is it possible to block the foreign Saudi money which is funding terrorism and fundamentalism?

Money will always talk. If the normal flow of funds is interdicted, enough money is available to make sure the funding continues by other, more creative means — laundered through “charities”, for example. The amounts are so huge that enforcement bureaucrats can be offered bribes far greater than their salaries to look the other way while the Salafist mosques receive their money.

The only way the flow is likely to stop is if the price of oil remains at its current level or drops even lower. That will dry up the springhead.

Will Western countries reform their entitlement systems, and make it impossible for new immigrants to live on the dole?

There are signs that some countries are cutting back the allowances offered to new arrivals. However, the subsidies and stipends were already so incredibly generous that a 50% reduction would still be a fabulous inducement for poverty-stricken migrants to make their way to Europe — especially when someone else pays those hefty smugglers’ fees.

How soon will Muslims constitute a majority of the fighting age population in Europe?

This question is complex, because the number of Muslims in various parts of Europe is usually indeterminate. France, for example, forbids the collection of statistics based on religion and ethnicity, so the Muslim population of France can only be an educated guess. Add to this problem the number of illegals in Europe — which was swollen enormously by the Great Migration of 2015 — and we really don’t have any meaningful numbers to crunch.

One thing is for certain, however: certain districts of certain cities and towns — and perhaps some entire metropolises — already have Muslim majorities of fighting-age young men. If the police and army are unwilling to enter them, these areas are de-facto parts of Dar al-Islam. And current trends indicate that if the security services do become involved, it will be on the side of the Muslims, to defend them against any violent incursions by angry natives.

“Once the West has closed its borders and effectively cracked down on Islamic terrorism, we will still be left with millions of Muslim citizens, most of which have never broken any law, or had anything to do with terrorism. If we wish to preserve Western notions of human rights, equality before the law, indeed the very principle of ‘innocent until proven guilty’, we shall have to allow them to live as equal citizens.” Or is there another way?

Yes, there is another way. It’s even humane, and also compatible with the rule of law. But it will require such a major shift in the political currents that it is not likely to happen until after extremely dire events intervene.

Western governments must recognize that Islam is not primarily a religion, but rather a dangerous totalitarian political ideology with the superstructure of a religion grafted onto it to justify its murderous brutality, and to motivate its adherents.

A formal legal recognition of the above facts — with constitutional amendments where required — would allow the traditional legal privileges afforded a religion to be removed. Islam at that point could be treated the same way one would treat Nazism or Communism or any other dangerously seditious political doctrine. Mosques could be shut down, leaders jailed, and preaching banned. The authorities could make it very difficult for Islamic leaders to proselytize and incite their followers.

And all without violating anyone’s political rights. No one has the right to incite violent sedition against a constitutional republic.

“How will the state possibly be able to tell who is a Muslim and who is not? Will it revive the old Spanish Inquisition in order to identify the crypto Muslims? This will be the end of freedom of conscience, not just for Muslims but for the rest of society as well.” Or is there another way?

Once the legislative measures mentioned in the previous section are implemented, tests can be devised to help identify the true believers. It will be difficult to be certain that any given individual has sincerely apostatized, but various strategies can be attempted — requiring a videotaped public repudiation of Islam by known adherents, say, followed by the publication of their names and photos. Those who refuse could be identified as dangerous to the public, and treated accordingly.

It will be harsh and difficult, and at this point it is still inconceivable. But by the time Western societies come to this pass, such horrific things will have been done to us by Muslims that harsh measures against them will no more concern us than the internment of Japanese-Americans did in WW2.

Is mass deportation of citizens who have committed no crime possible?

Yes, if they are not citizens of the nation they reside in. No foreigner has an absolute right to live in his host country. And those who hold dual passports — which in Europe covers many second- and third-generation Muslim immigrants — may also be treated as hostile foreigners and deported to the other country of which they are legal citizens.

Must we assume that all Muslims are “moderates” until proven otherwise?

We must assume that “moderates” don’t exist. There are believing Muslims and lapsed Muslims. The latter group traditionally keeps itself well-hidden, for obvious reasons.

When the time comes — when the proverbial excrement impacts the circulation device, and we change the legal standing of Muslims, and crack down on the sedition of true believers — then and only then will it become possible for a larger percentage of cultural Muslims to apostatize without fear.

Do I have faith in my own people (i.e. ethnic Europeans and descendants across the globe) and in their basic survival instincts?

I have enormous faith in my people and their survival instincts. That’s why I no longer think that “the conflict between Islam and the West can be resolved in any peaceful or at least orderly way”.

When things get bad enough — which they will relatively soon — the survival instincts of my people will kick in, and they will do whatever is necessary to take care of their own. I have no doubt that it will get extremely ugly at times, but I am certain my people will prevail.

When those dreadful days arrive, political correctness will dissipate as rapidly as an early-morning fog. And so will the “moderate Muslims”.

12 thoughts on “Is a Peaceful or at Least Orderly Resolution Possible?”

  1. It is not how long it will be before Muslims hold the majority in voting electorates, but it is the inordinate influence and power they wield with only small numbers.
    They are united and consolidated mostly.
    Therefor Muslims gain positions of power in politics (Councillors , Mayors etc.
    Wealthy Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia finance institutions of learning, so that the narrative your children learn is their narrative.
    It is impossible to undo the decades of left wing indoctrination that has been the staple in schools and Unis’ in all of the West.
    Which means the present generation of those that would be soldiers, teachers, Judges etc. will fall and bow before the Muslims any how.

  2. NO….NO….NO….A THOUSAND TIMES …..NO!!!!!!

    I am not a writer of the caliber of the many writers whose labours have taught me what I know about the Muslim and the poison of Islam. But for what I have written, much of it going back well over 8 years now, I find that I am not only right in my predictions but that I and my tutors are screaming warnings at the top of our lungs that are going unheeded. It is madness.

    The reality is that there is no peaceful solution to our conflict with the filthy Muslim to be had in our time as there has never been in the last 1400 years and never will be hence.

    Out only decision is whether we will go gently into that Muslim night or we will rage, rage, rage at the dying of the light of Western Civilization.

    Have we become so ignorant, so afraid, so indecisive, so weak that we will not confront and spill the blood of vulgar, barbaric, savage human filth, the Muslim, who seeks at every opportunity, at every turn, to shackle or slaughter us?

    I wrote a ramble called “The Course To Deportation” that muses many of the points that we now are faced with, decisions that must be made and courses of action that must be traveled if we are to survive.

    Did we really think this conflict with the vulgar Muslim and its cancerous supremacist of Islam would never come to blood? Did we really think that this fight would be won with reason, logic and civility?

    How bloody obtuse we are.

    We can no longer afford the currency and discourse of politicians and diplomats, we can no longer afford the rhetoric of the treasonous and cowardly, we must now speak as men and women, as citizens whose culture, whose country, whose kith and kin are about to wiped from the face of the earth.
    We must set aside our civility, we must set aside our love of peaceful discourse and debate and deal with the Muslim in a manner that it truly understands, we must trade in the black-hearted currency of Islam, we must be unswerving in our goal to end their presence among us.

    To do anything less is suicidal.

    Don Laird
    Alberta, Canada
    ___________________________________________________________

    THE COURSE TO DEPORTATION

    One could also take a page from the Israelis and note that after decades of suffering terrorism, ceaseless aggression, murder, intimidation, in other words after decades of suffering Islamic “business as usual”, they built a wall a rather long and very high wall, a wall very effective at keeping self-detonating vermin from their midst. Now its “NO MUSLIMS, NO PROBLEMS.

    The time has come, nay, is long overdue, to remove from our midst that which hates us, which harms us, that which has sworn an oath 1400 years ago to destroy us, that which is completely incompatible with Western values and completely incapable of coexisting peacefully amongst Westerners. Of course, I speak of the Muslim and its supremacist political ideology of Islam.

    To that end, the reality of our situation is that we are now almost without a choice with respect to the use of military and law enforcement to remove the Muslim.

    I am assuming here, for arguments sake, that our abandonment, in the face of Muslim threat, at the hands of our military and law enforcement agencies, will not continue, that they will see the error of their ways, that they will see how their political masters have forced them to place us in harm’s way and that they will ignore those same treasonous and seditious political masters and come to our aid. If they do not, then in effecting our own solution to the Islamic problem we would face a two-front battle the conduct of which poses its own set of unique problems that include but are not limited to civil insurrection. I hope for the former and not the latter.

    To our current predicament; we are now at this crossroads and will remain here for only a short while.

    The Muslim is becoming entrenched almost to the point of complete permanence and the only thing that our actions will change now is not the removal of the Muslim, that will, broadly speaking, always be achievable, but the amount of blood required be spilt to effect that removal.

    There are those who are reading my words and are somewhat uncomfortable with my assertions and to those I say this; it was, is now and always will be your cowardice and Chamberlainesque stupidity that has us in our current predicament and will should we continue to dither, be the very same that forges the shackles to be worn by generations a thousand years hence.

    You all, each and every one, know this to be true and yet you walk around the truth and the reality of what must be done, holding your noses and averting your eyes like the truth were some steaming pile of dogshit in your paths. This lunacy is suicidal.

    To all the bloggers, to all the pensive and academic commenters, to all the shoe-gazers, to all the coffee shop revolutionaries, to all the essayists, to all of the philosophers, to all those who wither at the thought of a raised tone of voice, to all those who recoil at the sight of blood, to all of you who avert your gaze from those who seek to violate your womenfolk, to all of you who tremble at Islam’s thunderous knock at Western Civilizations’ door, to all of the “civilized” conscientious objectors who so politely and so conscientiously “object” to defend themselves, to all of you, I defy one or all of you to submit an essay which lays out a reasonable, workable plan to solve the Muslim/Islam issue in the West. One that does not include the deportation of the Muslim and criminalization of Islamic ideology, but one that is effective, expeditious and realistic in its goal and the path it will travel to achieve that same goal of threat neutralization. The truth is; you can’t.

    Each and every one of you knows that Islam must be, in its every form, outlawed and criminalized. MacArthur knew the threat Shinto posed in post-war Japan and acted decisively. Yes, the Japanese were a beaten people but he recognized the role Shinto played in inspiring fanaticism and wiped it from every facet of public life and put into place severe penalties for infractions of his orders.

    http://www.trinity.edu/rnadeau/Asian%20Religions/Lecture%20Notes/Shinto%20and%20Zen/Shinto%20state.htm

    In our case we too must outlaw Islam, we must outlaw that which inspires fanaticism and violence, But in our case our task is made exponentially more difficult as we are not dealing with a beaten people we are dealing with a defiant and openly murderous people who are calling for our subjugation, our enslavement or our murder and as to which these Muslims are not particular.

    Considering this open hostility and defiance the only course of action is the criminalization of Islam, the deconstruction of all mosques and Islamic association/friendship centers and the commencement of a program of selective deportation.

    This considered you and I and every sane, rational, thinking and intellectual person, man or woman, knows that this will require blood. This considered, you know that Muslims too, across the western world, are aware of our only alternative and have been arming themselves (Malmo, Paris, Berlin, London Ontario, Dearborn Michigan etc etc etc) and stockpiling ammunition. They and the realists among us know that we will have to spill blood, lots of blood to rid ourselves of the problem our cowardice created in the first place. I defy anyone, absolutely anyone, to argue otherwise.

    END PART ONE

  3. THE COURSE TO DEPORTATION, PART TWO
    _______________________________________________________________________

    I am currently working on an essay that lays out our current issues in dealing with the Muslim and its Islam. This essay makes logical argument in support of our only solution to the Muslim and its Islam; deportation and criminalization.

    Considering the laughable and certainly unworkable task of building a network of Muslim-proof walls 50 feet high and tens of thousands of miles long, and considering that, at least here in North America, we are an island and hence a defensible fortress surrounded by oceans; I am advocating a program of M.A.I.D

    (MUSLIM ARREST INTERNMENT/INCARCERATION DEPORTATION)

    It is, exactly what it sounds like and the multitude of its administrative, logistical and operational facets are fodder for another essay/discussion.

    However, in preparation for that program of M.A.I.D, I advocate complete and detailed identification of all Muslims in North America and this identification to be supplemented with details regarding businesses, government posts held and to include but not limited to a list of those in the judiciary, the bureaucracy, the business world, the academia, the military/law enforcement agencies, the legal industry and among private citizens who support or who are sympathetic to the Muslim.

    And please, to the gentle liberals, leftists, self-loathers, thumb-twiddling moderates and drug addled hippies who are reading my words, when your heads stop exploding, please don’t offer up that farcical and flatulent argument about the elusive “good Muslim”. The argument offered in that regard is a red herring. The fact is that the “Good Muslim” is a vicious lie, a laughable falsehood and a myth. It is a lie offered up to silence argument, debate and criticism of Muslim criminality and so too, offered up regarding the solution we all, even the Muslims, know is the only effective solution to our Islamic/Muslim problem.

    One only has to look at the deafening silence and conspicuous absence of all those “good Muslims” as they gathered not, not in their thousands, not in their hundreds, not a single one to protest the criminal actions of the Toronto 18, the Boston Bombers, the Fort Hood Massacre, Mohammad Shafia, Mr. Parvez, the London 7-7 Bombers, the Atocha Station Bloodbath, the Bali Murders, the Westgate Mall Killers, San Bernadino and on and on and on and yet not one, not one single “Good Muslim” showed up at the trials subsequent to this butchery to protest the murderous lunacy of the “bad Muslims”, yet “cartoons” brought out Muslims in their hundreds of thousands. How remarkably strange.

    Personally, as an example to others, I do not trouble myself with attempting to differentiate between the “bad” and the “good” Muslim, that is their responsibility and until they engage in said differentiation in sufficiently impressive numbers, to me there is only one flavour of Muslim and only one flavour of Islam and both are decidedly bad for my health.

    Once again. There are those who dither, who gaze at the toes of their shoes, who are indecisive, who are cowards and all of those same who are bloody silent when asked for a solution to the Muslim problem. Yet when removal of the Muslim and criminalization of its political ideology, Islam, are put forth as a viable and effective solution, these same people, bereft of any other solution, start crying and coughing blood in protest.

    So, to them and you I say this; either they put up or shut up and join those who are willing to roll up their sleeves and do what must be done, or, riding on the coat-tails of their betters, remain silent.

    With respect to the solution, give it some thought, think long and hard as to what we face and what must be done. You can start to do this individually or you can begin to organize small groups. But whatever you do you must do it with the intention of removing the Muslim and every single shred, every single vestige of its Islam from Europe and North America.

    In the end we must be brutally unswerving in our resolve, we must understand the Muslim as did Charles Martel, we must understand the Muslim as did the terrified denizens of Vienna, we must understand the Muslim as did Polish General Jan Sobieski and we must understand the Muslim as did those who saddled up and rode with their countrymen during the Crusades.

    There is no other solution.

    Food for thought, catalyst for action.

    Get Busy.

    Defend Yourselves.

    Don Laird
    Alberta, Canada

    PS: I am reminded of a group of young men and women who are revolted by the cowardice of their parents and have resolved not to allow the Muslim to smear the filth and excremental barbarity of a mass murdering child molesting 7th century lunatic on everything they hold dear.

    (Sadly, I am adding a footnote to the video below, I thought I would have seen a massive response from Generation Identitaire after the slaughter in Paris, how wrong I was)

  4. No, it is well past the time of talking, voting or legislating our way out of this. Things will muddle on as they are until the last straw has been placed. Then a social breakdown will occur when the first mob actions begin. Saint Bartholomeus Night was orchestrated as was the resolution of the Danegeld situation. This will not be an orchestrated move, it will be a spontaneous explosion of cultural self preservation. Very messy but inescapable now.

  5. “When people are ready to, they change…you can’t make them change if they don’t want to. Just like when they do want to, you can’t stop them.” Andy Warhol

    Prior to 2015 I believed (wishful thinking) on a good day that war might be averted if people could be made to wake up. But since the mass invasion of Europe by the least-believable refugees of all time, and the response to this invasion by Europeans and the West in general, I suspect not.

    I still think that it’s critical to alert ordinary, ill informed, people to the reality of Islam, that it is, as the Baron says, a dangerous totalitarian political ideology – and not really a religion at all. But I also believe that time is running out for political changes to be made.

    At some point Islamic State will instigate a mass, and probably premature, assault on the major cities of Europe. If it is bad enough – worse than can be forgotten with a rousing chorus of Imagine, or Kumbaya – perhaps it will dawn on people that this is a direct consequence of their apathy & political correctness, and that they need to do something serious to stop it happening again.

    In any case, when people do wake up en masse, and understand the extent to which they’ve been lied to by the ruling elites – politicians/ media – governments will have to act quickly to prevent utter carnage and bloodshed.

  6. Thank you for re-posting this very important article by Baron Bodissey, from the Gates of Vienna. Could I just make a couple of observations:
    1. I agree 100% with the Baron that Islam is not a religion, but rather a secular totalitarian supremacist ideology, one to which some of the trappings of religion have cynically been added. Islam is no more a religion than Nazism or Communism. Instead of worshipping Hitler or Lenin, the Islamists worship Mohammed. Refer Rebecca Bynum’s important book ‘Allah is Dead. Why Islam is not a religion.’ Probably our only hope of survival as a species lies in our acknowledging the essentially secular nature of Islam, and removing it from all the benefits and protections enjoyed by true religions in the West – precisely as the Baron suggests.
    2. I agree that there is no such thing as ‘moderate Islam,’ a wishful construct of Western imagining, with no foundation in reality. As Recep Erdogan has pointed out, there is no such thing as Moderate Islam is Islam. That’s it! Sooner or later (regrettably later, I fear) even the multiculti flower children and leftist politicians will perhaps be forced to admit that Islam is, by its very nature, evil and satanic – as well as an aggressively secular and totalitarian political ideology with no redeeming features whatsoever. ) Or maybe they won’t. There are deluded idiots out there who still think Karl Marx is wonderful. In that case, we are all completely stuffed. Islam will prevail in this clash of civilizations, and our daughters will invite rape if ever they venture out of doors without wearing a tent.
    3. The one ray of hope that I see is this: Islam is a brittle and extremely vulnerable belief system. This is why apostasy is death, and on every side apologists for Islam are doing everything possible to criminalize any examination of Islam. Christianity is still standing after two thousand years, and most historians are forced to acknowledge the incontrovertible historical evidence supporting the existence and ministry of Jesus.(See Geoffrey Blainey’s eminently readable ‘A Short History of Christianity’, if anyone is interested). Islam, au contraire, is not supported by any objective historical evidence – scholars like Robert Spencer suggest there is some question whether Mohammed even existed. So of course Muslims fly into a rage if any kaffur casts any doubt on Mohammed. Muslims are incapable of answering any criticisms of their (so-called) ‘religion’ – They can only fall into a screaming rage, and rush around killing people – no subsititute or rational argument. We in the West must resist all left wing attempts to muzzle us, and to destroy freedom of speech, and blogs like ‘Winds of Jihad’ perform a vital function.

  7. No need for any of that piecemeal “monitoring” and case-by-case arresting and deporting stuff: We already know what’s in the Qur’an, and what’s expected of islam’s “muslim” gang members.

    As for “moderate” muslims – there aren’t any, any more than there is such a thing as a “moderate” murder-gang member.

    Being a member of a crime-gang is already a crime, so deport them ALL.

    As for the Political Correctness of the EU and the rest of them:

    By design, America and the West are being destroyed by the political and pundit class on behalf of the globalists. The globalists’ goal is to eliminate borders; and to do this they intend to swarm all nations with people of other races, from other cultures, nationalities and even religions, so that people of civilized and established nations lose their cultural and nationalist identities and become homogenized. The argument can then be made that, since a nation now has no cultural or racial identity, borders are irrelevant.

    In a world without borders, people become world citizens. World citizens need world government.

    And it’s not only the government, either: the enemedia and so-called “education system” are also complicit – they serve the same globalist corporazi masters the politicians do.

    A great way to control people is to convince them they can’t manage their own affairs.

    Even better is to convince them they’re only potentially dangerous (hateful racist bigots) mistakes who shouldn’t even think about trying to defend them selves because by doing so they are guaranteed to always hurt innocent others.

    Best of all is to convince them they are not only all helpless victims, but to be proudly competitive in endorsing victim status – which is exactly what today’s feral “Social Justice Warriors” (SJWs) are all about!

    Which is both how and why the enemedia endlessly shames us all as potential racists all the time, and insists we import hordes of swarthy savages who we know want to murder and enslave us, to make up for it.

  8. A LONG ANSWER TO A SHORT QUESTION (2 PARTS)

    NO….NO….NO….A THOUSAND TIMES …..NO!!!!!!

    Did we really think this conflict with the vulgar Muslim and its cancerous supremacist of Islam would never come to blood? Did we really think that this fight would be won with reason, logic and civility?

    How bloody obtuse we are.

    We can no longer afford the currency and discourse of politicians and diplomats, we can no longer afford the rhetoric of the treasonous and cowardly, we must now speak as men and women, as citizens whose culture, whose country, whose kith and kin are about to wiped from the face of the earth.
    We must set aside our civility. We must set aside our humanity, the same humanity that the Muslim uses as a weapon with such deadly efficacy in its war against us. We must set aside our love of peaceful discourse and civilized debate and deal with the Muslim in a manner that it truly understands, we must trade in the black-hearted currency of Islam, we must be of singular focus, we must be brutally harsh, we must be unswerving in our goal to end their presence among us. We must do all of this to save our lives, the lives of our family and friends. We must do this to save our culture and countries and preserve for our generations hence a civilized society that is the greatest success story in the history of mankind.

    To do anything less is suicidal.

    _______________________________________________________________

    THE COURSE TO DEPORTATION

    Hello there…….its me again……..Don Laird

    One could also take a page from the Israelis and note that after decades of suffering terrorism, ceaseless aggression, murder, intimidation, in other words after decades of suffering Islamic “business as usual”, they built a wall a rather long and very high wall, a wall very effective at keeping self-detonating vermin from their midst. Now its “NO MUSLIMS, NO PROBLEMS.

    The time has come, nay, is long overdue, to remove from our midst that which hates us, which harms us, that which has sworn an oath 1400 years ago to destroy us, that which is completely incompatible with Western values and completely incapable of coexisting peacefully amongst Westerners. Of course, I speak of the Muslim and its supremacist political ideology of Islam.

    To that end, the reality of our situation is that we are now almost without a choice with respect to the use of military and law enforcement to remove the Muslim.

    I am assuming here, for arguments sake, that our abandonment, in the face of Muslim threat, at the hands of our military and law enforcement agencies, will not continue, that they will see the error of their ways, that they will see how their political masters have forced them to place us in harm’s way and that they will ignore those same treasonous and seditious political masters and come to our aid. If they do not, then in effecting our own solution to the Islamic problem we would face a two-front battle the conduct of which poses its own set of unique problems that include but are not limited to civil insurrection. I hope for the former and not the latter.

    To our current predicament; we are now at this crossroads and will remain here for only a short while.

    The Muslim is becoming entrenched almost to the point of complete permanence and the only thing that our actions will change now is not the removal of the Muslim, that will, broadly speaking, always be achievable, but the amount of blood required be spilt to effect that removal.

    There are those who are reading my words and are somewhat uncomfortable with my assertions and to those I say this; it was, is now and always will be your cowardice and Chamberlainesque stupidity that has us in our current predicament and will should we continue to dither, be the very same that forges the shackles to be worn by generations a thousand years hence.

    You all, each and every one, know this to be true and yet you walk around the truth and the reality of what must be done, holding your noses and averting your eyes like the truth were some steaming pile of dogshit in your paths. This lunacy is suicidal.

    To all the bloggers, to all the pensive and academic commenters, to all the shoe-gazers, to all the coffee shop revolutionaries, to all the essayists, to all of the philosophers, to all those who wither at the thought of a raised tone of voice, to all those who recoil at the sight of blood, to all of you who avert your gaze from those who seek to violate your womenfolk, to all of you who watch your country and your culture suffer cut after injurious Muslim cut, to all of you who tremble at Islam’s thunderous knock at Western Civilizations’ door, to all of the “civilized” conscientious objectors who so politely and so conscientiously “object” to defend themselves, to all of you, I defy one or all of you to submit an essay which lays out a reasonable, workable plan to solve the Muslim/Islam issue in the West. One that does not include the deportation of the Muslim and criminalization of Islamic ideology, but one that is effective, expeditious and realistic in its goal and the path it will travel to achieve that same goal of threat neutralization. The truth is; you can’t.

    END PART ONE

  9. PART TWO

    Each and every one of you knows that Islam must be, in its every form, outlawed and criminalized. MacArthur knew the threat Shinto posed in post-war Japan and acted decisively. Yes, the Japanese were a beaten people but he recognized the role Shinto played in inspiring fanaticism and wiped it from every facet of public life and put into place severe penalties for infractions of his orders.

    http://www.trinity.edu/rnadeau/Asian%20Religions/Lecture%20Notes/Shinto%20and%20Zen/Shinto%20state.htm

    In our case we too must outlaw Islam, we must outlaw that which inspires fanaticism and violence, But in our case our task is made exponentially more difficult as we are not dealing with a beaten people we are dealing with a defiant and openly murderous people who are calling for our subjugation, our enslavement or our murder and as to which these Muslims are not particular.

    Considering this open hostility and defiance the only course of action is the criminalization of Islam, the deconstruction of all mosques and Islamic association/friendship centers and the commencement of a program of selective deportation.

    This considered you and I and every sane, rational, thinking and intellectual person, man or woman, knows that this will require blood. This considered, you know that Muslims too, across the western world, are aware of our only alternative and have been arming themselves (Malmo, Paris, Berlin, London Ontario, Dearborn Michigan etc etc etc) and stockpiling ammunition. They and the realists among us know that we will have to spill blood, lots of blood to rid ourselves of the problem our cowardice created in the first place. I defy anyone, absolutely anyone, to argue otherwise.

    I am currently working on an essay that lays out our current issues in dealing with the Muslim and its Islam. This essay makes logical argument in support of our only solution to the Muslim and its Islam; deportation and criminalization.

    Considering the laughable and certainly unworkable task of building a network of Muslim-proof walls 50 feet high and tens of thousands of miles long, and considering that, at least here in North America, we are an island and hence a defensible fortress surrounded by oceans; I am advocating a program of M.A.I.D

    (MUSLIM ARREST INTERNMENT/INCARCERATION DEPORTATION)

    It is, exactly what it sounds like and the multitude of its administrative, logistical and operational facets are fodder for another essay/discussion.

    However, in preparation for that program of M.A.I.D, I advocate complete and detailed identification of all Muslims in North America and this identification to be supplemented with details regarding businesses, government posts held and to include but not limited to a list of those in the judiciary, the bureaucracy, the business world, the academia, the military/law enforcement agencies, the legal industry, the media and among private citizens who support or who are sympathetic to the Muslim.

    And please, to the gentle liberals, leftists, hard Marxists, self-loathers, thumb-twiddling moderates and drug addled hippies who are reading my words, when your heads stop exploding, please don’t offer up that farcical and flatulent argument about the elusive “good Muslim”. The argument offered in that regard is a red herring. The fact is that the “Good Muslim” is a vicious lie, a laughable falsehood and a myth. It is a lie offered up to silence argument, debate and criticism of Muslim criminality and the political ideology of Islam and so too, offered up regarding the solution we all, even the Muslims, know is the only effective solution to our Islamic/Muslim problem.

    One only has to look at the deafening silence and conspicuous absence of all those “good Muslims” as they gathered not, not in their thousands, not in their hundreds, not a single one to protest the criminal actions of the Toronto 18, the Boston Bombers, the Fort Hood Massacre, Mohammad Shafia, Mr. Parvez, the London 7-7 Bombers, the Atocha Station Bloodbath, the Bali Murders, the Westgate Mall Killers, San Bernadino and on and on and on and yet not one, not one single “Good Muslim” showed up at the trials subsequent to this butchery to protest the murderous lunacy of the “bad Muslims”, yet “cartoons” brought out Muslims in their hundreds of thousands. How remarkably strange.

    Personally, as an example to others, I do not trouble myself with attempting to differentiate between the “bad” and the “good” Muslim, that is their responsibility and until they engage in said differentiation in sufficiently impressive numbers, to me there is only one flavour of Muslim and only one flavour of Islam and both are decidedly bad for my health.

    Once again. There are those who dither, who gaze at the toes of their shoes, who are indecisive, who are cowards and all of those same who are bloody silent when asked for a solution to the Muslim problem. Yet when removal of the Muslim and criminalization of its political ideology, Islam, are put forth as a viable and effective solution, these same people, bereft of any other solution, start crying and coughing blood in protest.

    So, to them and you I say this; either they put up or shut up and join those who are willing to roll up their sleeves and do what must be done, or, riding on the coat-tails of their betters, remain silent.

    With respect to the solution, give it some thought, think long and hard as to what we face and what must be done. You can start to do this individually or you can begin to organize small groups. But whatever you do you must do it with the intention of removing the Muslim and every single shred, every single vestige of its Islam from Europe and North America.

    In the end we must be brutally unswerving in our resolve, we must understand that our complete understanding of the Muslim and its Islam is the very foundation of our self preservation, we must understand the Muslim as did millions upon millions of peaceful, non violent non-Muslims who failed to fully understand the poison of Islam and were butchered for their naïveté and cowardice, we must understand the Muslim as did Charles Martel, we must understand the Muslim as did the terrified denizens of Vienna, we must understand the Muslim as did Polish General Jan Sobieski and we must understand the Muslim as did those who saddled up and rode with their countrymen during the Crusades.

    There is no other solution.

    Food for thought, catalyst for action.

    Get Busy.

    Defend Yourselves.

    Don Laird
    Alberta, Canada

  10. THE TREACHERY OF SOCIAL MEDIA

    An interesting video.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5a8_1452002277

    If you have any doubt about the treachery and potential for lethality of Mass Social Media, look no further than Facebook.

    Look now further than Mark Zukerberg’s agreement with Angela Merkel to silence all opposition to Merkels’ lunatic immigration policies in Germany.

    Slowly, around the world, the battle lines are becoming clearer and clearer.

    Don Laird
    Alberta, Canada

  11. How quickly you forget . What to do with all the Muslims in the West? Sacred principals of Western decency ect. ect. ect.Remember 1945. What to do with all those millions of ethnic Germans who had been living for 100′ of years in what was suddenly Poland. Not 2 or 3 generations like the current crop of Muslims, east Prussia was German since 1100. As Churchill said, to leave a n ethnic minority anywhere in Eastern Europe could spell future problems, best ship them all back. How to ship back a few million? Very simple, do it the same way the Russians, Poles, Chzechs and Ukrainians did it, make them walk home. This also makes sure there are not that many of them that do make it and the social welfare system does not get overwhelmed

Comments are closed.