Farage throws the towel when it comes to Islam

Robert Spencer: Nigel Farage Warns “We’ll Lose” A Battle Between the West and Islam

Farage has decided that if he can’t beat them, he’ll join them.

At a recent dinner of the UK Independence Party (UKIP), which he formerly headed, Farage said: “If dealing with Islamic fundamentalism becomes a battle between us and the entire religion, I’ll tell you the result: we’ll lose. We will simply lose….We absolutely have to get that Muslim majority living in many of our towns and cities on our side, more attuned to Western values than some pretty hardline interpretations of the Qur’an.” (More below the fold)

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Is Nigel Farage woke? Ex-UKIP leader warns party off supporting Tommy Robinson

On the issue of Islam and how UKIP should conduct the debate around the issue, Farage told activists that the party was right to oppose Islamic extremism “but if dealing with Islamic fundamentalism becomes a battle between us and the entire religion, I’ll tell you the result: we’ll lose. We will simply lose.”

You have lost your country, Farage. If you lost your will to fight,  move over and let Tommy Robinson take charge.

Adding: “We absolutely have to get that Muslim majority living in many of our towns and cities on our side, more attuned to Western values than some pretty hardline interpretations of the Qur’an.”

Never. That “Muslim majority with Western values” will always stand with their Muslim brothers, not with kafir politicians like Farage. 

In other news:

Two kinds of justice: Muslim protester terrorist who hit police officer at Tommy Robinson rally spared jail

Omar Mohamad, 62, left Sergeant Guy Rooney with a severely bruised face

A Muslim  activist fanatic who hit a police officer with his walking stick at a Tommy Robinson rally in Hyde Park has escaped with a suspended sentence. Omar Mohamad, 62, scuffled with Sergeant Guy Rooney and left him with a severely bruised face at a counter protest in Hyde Park in March 2018. The officer suffered from post traumatic stress and his injury was so bad his children refused to walk to school with him.

‘Given your poor health and your previous good character it will be a suspended sentence,’ the judge added. Defending, Sarah Robinson, told the court how Mohamad suffers from multiple illnesses that require a walking stick, and explained he is currently living in sheltered accommodation.

Mohammedans are a protected class in England. Above the law. Does your heart bleed already for the poor sod?

Is Nigel Farage woke? Ex-UKIP leader warns party off supporting Tommy Robinson

Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage has questioned the ‘judgement’ of his successor Gerard Batten over his support for the imprisoned ex-EDL leader Tommy Robinson, who was recently convicted for contempt of court.
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Farage, who was speaking at a dinner for UKIP activists in Lancashire this month, did not openly criticize Batten, but told the assembled faithful that being seen as opposing all Muslims and supporting Robinson was a political mistake, reports the Guardian.

In an apparent dig at Batten’s choice of friends, Farage told dinner guests: “I think this gets to the heart of not just the positioning of a political party, but of judgment too. And judgment really, really matters. Tommy Robinson is seen to be a hero by many. But actually, what the bloody hell was he doing outside the court?”

Batten posted a picture on Twitter of himself with Robinson, on Saturday, declaring he was to speak at the ‘Free Tommy Robinson’ rally, which was marred by violence from a set of protesters against the police.

Batten seems to also be in hot water with many UKIP senior officials over his position on Islam. It is understood that one senior party member has written to him to express their concern about his alleged anti-Islam stance.

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On the issue of Islam and how UKIP should conduct the debate around the issue, Farage told activists that the party was right to oppose Islamic extremism “but if dealing with Islamic fundamentalism becomes a battle between us and the entire religion, I’ll tell you the result: we’ll lose. We will simply lose.”

Adding: “We absolutely have to get that Muslim majority living in many of our towns and cities on our side, more attuned to Western values than some pretty hardline interpretations of the Qur’an.”

But it’s Batten’s relationship with Robinson that has caused unease with UKIPers, according to a life-long senior UKIP figure, speaking anonymously to the Guardian.

They told the paper: “These are the people we spent years trying to keep out of the party, and so this isn’t making a lot of people happy. It’s really upset what you might call the more old-school party members.”

Batten took over as UKIP leader on an initial one-year basis in February, replacing Henry Bolton, who was removed following controversy over his girlfriend’s racist messages.

Robert Spencer on Farage’s defeatism:

British politician Nigel Farage once helped convince Britons to vote for Brexit and separate from the European Union, but British establishment politicians have done everything they could to sabotage that vote since then. Now Farage has apparently decided that if he can’t beat them, he’ll join them — if not on Brexit, then in their stance of denial and appeasement regarding the global jihad threat.’

At a recent dinner of the UK Independence Party (UKIP), which he formerly headed, Farage said: “If dealing with Islamic fundamentalism becomes a battle between us and the entire religion, I’ll tell you the result: we’ll lose. We will simply lose….We absolutely have to get that Muslim majority living in many of our towns and cities on our side, more attuned to Western values than some pretty hardline interpretations of the Qur’an.”

Sure. Now how does Farage propose to do that? His warning against making the resistance to jihad a “battle between us and the entire religion” is odd. No sane person is saying that the West should go to war with the entire Islamic world. The likeliest interpretation of his statement is that he is saying that we must not speak about how jihadis find justification for their actions in the Qur’an and Sunnah, as that will alienate the “moderates.”

But if we don’t speak about such facts, how will we ever convince Muslims not to follow “hardline interpretations of the Qur’an”?

Another problem with Farage’s statement is that it manifests a remarkable ignorance of history. While he is deeply concerned that British people not begin to think that resisting jihad terror means that they are in a “battle” with the “entire religion” of Islam, he appears unaware of the fact that many Muslims throughout history have considered their entire religion to be at war with the entire non-Muslim world.

I document this abundantly in my new book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS. To take one of innumerable examples, Sharaf ad-Din Ali Yazdi, a fifteenth-century Persian who wrote a biography of the Mongol Muslim warrior Tamerlane, observed that “the Qur’an says the highest dignity man can attain is that of making war in person against the enemies of his religion. Muhammad advises the same thing, according to the tradition of the Muslim doctors: wherefore the great Temur always strove to exterminate the infidels, as much to acquire that glory, as to signalise himself by the greatness of his conquests.”

After conquest came dhimmitude, the subjugated status that the Qur’an mandates for “the People of the Book” (primarily Jews and Christians). In the early twelfth century, the Fatimid caliph Al-Amir bi-Ahkamillah issued this edict:

Now, the prior degradation of the infidels in this world before the life to come—where it is their lot—is considered an act of piety; and the imposition of their poll tax [jizya], “until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled” (Koran 9:29) is a divinely ordained obligation….The dhimmi’s payment of his dues by a bill drawn on a Muslim, or by delegating a real believer to pay it in his name will not be tolerated. It must be exacted from him directly in order to vilify and humiliate him, so that Islam and its people may be exalted and the race of infidels brought low. The jizya is to be imposed on all of them in full, without exception.

Underlying this subjugation is a deep contempt for non-Muslims. In the year 718, the Umayyad caliph Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz sent out a message to the governors of the various Islamic provinces:

O you who believe! The non-Muslims are nothing but dirt. Allah has created them to be partisans of Satan; most treacherous in regard to all they do; whose whole endeavor in this nether life is useless, though they themselves imagine that they are doing fine work. Upon them rests the curse of Allah, of the Angels and of man collectively

We must not think that we are at war with the entire religion. But what, Mr. Farage, are we to think about the Muslims who consider themselves and their religion to be at war with us?

Nigel Farage has become just another mainstream hack politician.

One thought on “Farage throws the towel when it comes to Islam”

  1. Sorry Nigel, but I’m afraid you’ve lost the plot. There is NO WAY that islamiics will integrate, If you really believe that, you’re living in cloud cuckoo land. They are already taking over our once fair country, getting voted into places of authority, such as members of town and city councils and becoming mayors. They get there by having overwhelming numbers of muslims in those towns and cities, NOT by their ability or acumen: just by numbers. They will continue to out populate the indigenous population by being allowed to live by their own perverse laws, and NOT by the accepted laws of the land, which they actually consider beneath them. We already have ‘No Go’ areas, where humans are frowned upon, people can’t go for a quiet drink without someone objecting and causing a riot. We still have grooming gangs, destroying the innocence of children and getting away with it, whilst those who object are incarcerated, ‘Just In Case They Embarrass The Local Muslims!’ Islamic and ISIS flags are being flown – and allowed – while The UNION FLAG is considered racist. Racist to whom? This has been stated so often, but must be reiterated: muslims and islam are not races, and should not be treated as such. We have an idiot muslim mayor of London, presiding over a city under fire. Stabbings, killings, acid attacks, etc., have become a daily occurrence, yet out pathetic government are apologists for the criminals committing these crimes and blinded to the obvious.
    The only way this country will get itself out of the quagmire that is slowly closing over our heads, is to STOP immigration, CLOSE our borders, and SHIP OUT every known terrorist or terrorist sympathiser.
    Don’t try to justify them. They are NOT nice people: they are, like it or not, admit it or not, invaders; and we seem to be handing them our country on a plate.

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