“Repugnant Views” or Mainstream Islam?

Outrage at Muslim preacher’s ‘repugnant’ views that it’s a ‘major SIN’ for a wife to refuse her husband’s demands for sex

Nothing will be done about it. Nassim Abdi is teaching Islam 101. Its not as if he made it up. These are  not  just “his views”. Its mainstream Islam. But don’t take my word for it, scroll down to the end of the page for the authentic hadith.

Feminists and the NSW Attorney General have expressed concern after a Sydney Muslim preacher declared it was a ‘major sin’ for a wife to refuse sex with her husband.

Nassim Abdi, a fundamentalist Sunni, told an Auburn mosque in the city’s west a woman would be ‘cursed’ by angels for withholding marital intimacy.

‘If the husband calls the wife to be intimate and there’s no legitimate reason for the woman to say no, then she must answer the call of her husband,’ he said on Friday night.

‘She must answer the call of her husband and if not she has committed a major sin.

Nassim Abdi, a fundamentalist Sunni at an Auburn mosque in Sydney's west, said it was a 'major sin' for a wife to refuse a husband's demand for sex 

Nassim Abdi, a fundamentalist Sunni at an Auburn mosque in Sydney’s west, said it was a ‘major sin’ for a wife to refuse a husband’s demand for sex

The preacher from the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah Association, which calls for a return to seventh century Islam, said the angels would 'curse' a woman who refused to have sex

The preacher from the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah Association, which calls for a return to seventh century Islam, said the angels would ‘curse’ a woman who refused to have sex

‘If the man calls the wife to bed and she refuses, the angels curse this woman and he sleeps with her whilst he’s angry, the angels curse her until she wakes up.’

Mr Abdi preaches a seventh-century fundamentalist version of Salafist Islam from Saudi Arabia with the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah Association, which also advocates aspects of Sharia law.

Long-time feminist Eva Cox described him as a ‘nutter’, while stressing Islam was not the only religion with fundamentalists who disrespected women’s rights.

‘Somebody needs to inform the preacher that he’s preaching something which is illegal,’ she told Daily Mail Australia.

‘Preaching something which is illegal maybe should be banned.  

‘I’m sorry we’ve got these nutters.’

So? Are we going to ban Quran, sira & hadith? All  Islamic teachings are illegal. Child-marriage, polygamy, FGM, wife-beating, jihad, murder of homosexuals, honour killing of daughters who refuse to wear hijab: all of it is illegal. So when are we banning Islam?

Nassim Abdi has previously declared it sinful for Muslim women to show their ears under their hijabs in public and for parents to allow their children to listen to music in the car

Nassim Abdi has previously declared it sinful for Muslim women to show their ears under their hijabs in public and for parents to allow their children to listen to music in the car

Macquarie University research professor Catharine Lumby, a gender adviser with the National Rugby League, described the sermon as ‘hate speech’.

‘That kind of speech should be investigated. I believe in freedom of speech but I believe in limits to freedom of speech where violence is being advocated,’ she said.

Catharine Lumby said the sermon was 'hate speech' 

Catharine Lumby said the sermon was ‘hate speech’

‘It is absolutely against the law in this country what he’s advocating.

‘It’s a form of hate speech.’

Both feminists from an academic background stressed that fundamentalist Christians, too, had described women as the sexual property of men and said the sermon was not a reflection on all Australian Muslims.

Mr Abdi has previously declared it sinful for Muslim women to show their ears under their hijabs in public and for parents to allow their children to listen to music in the car.

Professor Lumby said Mr Abdi’s sermon could encourage Muslim men to commit domestic violence.

‘I would say it’s incitement to commit a criminal offence: if your wife doesn’t submit, then you still have the right to take her. That is a crime under Australian law,’ she said.

‘Shocking. The more I think about what this fundamentalist preacher said, in a way he’s advocating a form of domestic violence.’

Long-time feminist and women's rights activist Eva Cox said the preacher was a 'nutter'

Long-time feminist and women’s rights activist Eva Cox said the preacher was a ‘nutter’

No. Its us and our political clown gallery who allowed these monsters to settle here among us, behind enemy lines.

New South Wales amended the Crimes Act this year to give three-year jail terms for inciting violence based on race, religion or sexuality.

However, it didn’t specifically target the comments of religious preachers.

Attorney-General Mark Speakman said Mr Abdi’s remarks were a matter for police.

‘Non-consensual sex is a serious crime which should be reported to the police,’ he told Daily Mail Australia today.

Nothing will be done about it.

Attorney-General Mark Speakman said his views were 'repugnant' to Australian values of respecting women 

Attorney-General Mark Speakman said his views were ‘repugnant’ to Australian values of respecting women

‘Respect for all women is a central value of Australian society.

‘The views expressed by this preacher are repugnant to those values.’

Daily Mail Australia has sought a right of reply from the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah Association at Auburn.

The group removed the video from YouTube after a series of questions were emailed to them.

It was titled: ‘Prohibitions regarding intimacy in marriage.’

Marital rape didn’t become a crime across Australia until the 1980s, with South Australia in 1976 becoming the first state to criminalise sexual assault in a marriage.

Here the scriptures that support the views of this imam:

إِذَا دَعَا الرَّجُلُ امْرَأَتَهُ إِلَى فِرَاشِهِ فَأَبَتْ، فَبَاتَ غَضْبَانَ عَلَيْهَا، لَعَنَتْهَا الْمَلاَئِكَةُ حَتَّى تُصْبِحَ

If a husband calls his wife to his bed and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning. [Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 59, Hadith 48]

وَالَّذِي نَفْسُ مُحَمَّدٍ بِيَدِهِ لاَ تُؤَدِّي الْمَرْأَةُ حَقَّ رَبِّهَا حَتَّى تُؤَدِّيَ حَقَّ زَوْجِهَا وَلَوْ سَأَلَهَا نَفْسَهَا وَهِيَ عَلَى قَتَبٍ لَمْ تَمْنَعْهُ

By the One in Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad! No woman can fulfill her duty towards Allah until she fulfills her duty towards her husband. If he asks her (for intimacy) even if she is on her camel saddle, she should not refuse. [Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1853]

إِذَا الرَّجُلُ دَعَا زَوْجَتَهُ لِحَاجَتِهِ فَلْتَأْتِهِ وَإِنْ كَانَتْ عَلَى التَّنُّورِ

When a man calls his wife for his need, then let her come, even if she is at the oven. [Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Book 12, Hadith 15]

There is another authentic Hadith that has slight variation of words:

إِذَا بَاتَتِ الْمَرْأَةُ مُهَاجِرَةً فِرَاشَ زَوْجِهَا لَعَنَتْهَا الْمَلاَئِكَةُ حَتَّى تَرْجِعَ

If a woman spends the night deserting her husband’s bed (does not sleep with him), then the angels send their curses on her till she comes back (to her husband). [Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 67, Hadith 128]

8 thoughts on ““Repugnant Views” or Mainstream Islam?”

  1. Repugnant Views” is Mainstream Islam !!!
    (there Is Only One Islam … and it Vile Putrid Malevolent Deceitful and Vicious – as are its muhammad the criminal emulators) !!!

    … and (The Must Be REMOVED) Australian islamophile ‘authorities” CONTINUE to allow invader islam AND diversifier criminal African tribal immigration to and residency in Australia … to the detriment of everything and everyone Australian !!!

  2. I think most Americans by now dis-believe the official conspiracy theory on 9-11.

    Too many dancing Israelis and radiation induced cancer among 911 first responders.The expression ‘WTC7 effect’ is now a popular expression for cognitive dissonance.

    The USfedgov owned by a private banking cartel too ‘bought and paid for’ to discover the Deep State over there on the Mediterranean and round up the usual suspects.
    http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
    Military, Intelligence and Gov’t Officials question 9-11.

    1. Bonni Intall, Bare Naked Islam, states in her annual homage to 9/11 …
      MESSAGE TO NEW BNI READERS who want to comment here today, your 9/11 conspiracy theories will NEVER be posted at this site.” [sic]
      … and Bonni Intall is among The Very Many who would aggressively disagree with you Lynda …

      Unfortunately …
      “Many will look with their eyes but not see …
      and listen with their ears but not hear !!!” [sic]
      … a quote from following link (around 23:22 mark) …
      http://www.philosophers-stone.co.uk/?p=24863
      (no thinking person can really believe the “official” story perpetrated around 9/11) … unless !!!

  3. Why will they come to countries who doesn’t share theirs values! Why countries who take them don’t put a do and don’t on the immigration contract! If we want a better world this need to be done now!

    1. First, seeking opportunity and escape from repression. Subsequent generations will fulfill the Islamic mandate to subvert the government and replace it with Shari’ah.

      Receiving nations do not recognize the invasion and the politicians are too weak and spineless to do the right thing if they did wise up.

  4. John Daniel nailed it! Lynda needs to obtain a brain. Doubters, deniers & dissenters: search for and read:
    “The last Message of Muhammad Atta”
    “The Response to the Nine Accusations” by Khalid Sheikh Mohammad.

  5. The ahadith quoted in the post are authentic. The books containing them are in the archive. Search for “All in one volume hadith” There is a link in the “Library For Tracing broken Links” page on my blog if you can’t find it with a search.

    Note: the English Bukhari is Bowdlerized but uses the number system used by USC-MSA as quoted above. The Arab/English ed. uses a different numbering system!

    I do not remember where it is , but one hadith says the wife must comply, even on the back of a camel.

    The one mentioning bread in the oven is important. They did not have their own ovens, had to wait for a turn at the communal oven and watch the loaf to see that it was well baked and not burned. Taking leave for a romp could cost her the bread or her turn in line.

    I did not see mention of this ayat:

    2:223. Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth (have sexual relations with your wives in any manner as long as it is in the vagina and not in the anus), when or how you will, and send (good deeds, or ask Allâh to bestow upon you pious offspring) before you for your ownselves. And fear Allâh, and know that you are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give good tidings to the believers (O Muhammad ).

    Note: the parenthetical expression proscribing sodomy is added by the translators, from a tafsir, not included in the Arabic text of the verse.

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