Abbas offers Israel ‘sea of peace’

* Mahmud oh Mahmud: Is that the Dead Sea or the peace of the grave? Ahh, if only we could speak Arabic, perhaps then we could understand that the Pali-Arabs have nothing but our best interest at heart and if we could only understand that, then maybe we could also understand that Islam is a religion of peace….

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Abbas, middle, and Peres, right, will address the Turkish parliament for the first time [AFP]Mahmoud

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Abbas, the Palestinian president, has told Israel it can live in peace if it ends its occupation of Arab lands.

* And which ‘Arab lands’ would those be? Israel?

“If peace comes and the occupation comes to an end, Israel will live in a sea of peace,” he said on Tuesday after meeting his Israeli counterpart, Shimon Peres, in the Turkish capital of Ankara.
Abbas said his administration was working “with … full force” to ensure that an upcoming Middle East conference in Annapolis, US, was a success.
The talks in Maryland are an attempt to relaunch peace negotiations between the Israel and the Palestinian administration after they broke down seven years ago.

Talks ‘a waste’
Abbas and Peres were in Ankara to establish an industrial park in the West Bank, which will be sponsored by Turkey – a project expected to generate jobs for thousands of Palestinians.

* Another sick joke: Turkey will let the EU bleed for it and the Pal’s will never produce anything of value…

The two leaders are also due to address Turkey’s parliament separately, with both leaders becoming the first presidents of Israel and the Palestinians to address the legislature in Ankara.

“Never before has an Israeli president been in [the Turkish parliament] and the fact that this is happening is a signal by Turkey of the neutral platform that it can extend in terms of this highly divided region,” Mike Hanna, Al Jazeera’s correspondent in Istanbul, said.

Peres on Monday welcomed the participation of all “moderate countries” in the Annapolis conference.

He said “the voice of peace will be stronger and louder” with more participants attending, but he said Syria had not worked towards achieving peace.

Imad Moustapha, Syria’s ambassador to the US, last week called the talks a “waste” and a “photo opportunity”.

Turkey, Israel’s closest ally in the Islamic world, has in the past played the role of mediator between the Jewish state and its Muslim neighbours.

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Brit’s are Nazi’s because of negativity towards Islam, sez Muhammad Abdul Bari

From the Guardian’s ‘like us or else’-department

* Perhaps Muhammad should tell his co-religionists to stop blowing shit up and stop terrorizing infidels and Jooozzz, but would he even consider that?

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Muhammad Abdul Bari from the religion that keeps on giving…

The UK must be careful how it tackles terrorism and treats Islamic culture if it is to avoid recreating a society reminiscent of Nazi Germany, the head of the Muslim Council of Britain has warned.

* Muslims, 1.6 gazillions of them, are of course not Jews, and Britain in no way resembles Nazi-Germany. On the contrary, Muslims sided with the Nazi’s during WW2 and eagerly helped Hitler with his dirty work.

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Muhammad Abdul Bari, in an interview with the Daily Telegraph, criticised the Government for fuelling tensions in the Muslim community rather than dissipating them.

He told the paper: “There is a disproportionate amount of discussion surrounding us. The air is thick with suspicion and unease. It is not good for the Muslim community, it is not good for society.”

The Muslim leader continued: “Every society has to be really careful so that situation does not lead us to a time when people’s minds can be poisoned as they were in the 1930s.

“If your community is perceived in a very negative manner and poll after poll says that we are alienated then Muslims begin to feel very vulnerable.

“We are seen as creating problems, not as bringing anything, and that is not good for society.”

* Yes bro: Muslims are creating problems. Now would you please tell us how is this good for society..?

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The Government’s foreign policy and particularly the Iraq war, which he described as a “disaster”, had been used by criminals as a weapon to encourage young people into extremism, he said.

Dr Bari also criticised the head of MI5, Jonathan Evans, for painting a bleak picture of the terrorist threat the night before the Queen’s Speech this week. He said: “I don’t think it was a good thing to share information in this way, I think it is creating a scare in the community and wider society. It probably helps some people who try to recruit the young to terrorism.”

The leader believes integration should be a two-way process and that the emphasis should be on the positive aspects of Muslim culture instead of the threat of al Qaida.

* But the good Muslims from AQ are acting in accordance to the Islamic scriptures, or don’t they?

Muslim principles – including stricter attitudes to drinking, sex, marriage, abortion and dress – could improve the country as a whole and add more morality, he argues. Dr Bari said: “Marriage should not be forced on people but parents can be a catalyst… Young people are emotional, they want idealism. Older people have gone through all sorts of things and become a bit more experienced.”

* ..experienced in kitman & taqiyya of course. Muhammad didn’t say that, but…

* here’s more from the Illustrated Pig

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* and here’s the Bunglawala Ding Dong attacking ‘right wing’ journo Jon Gaunt who shakes all these good Muslims out of their tree…

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* actually, Jon Gaunt made quite a splash with his article, a quick google check and you’ll see his article on every Muhammedan website: the Islamofascists are irritated that the infidels are coming to their senses. Resistance is building, and they don’t like it at all…

* Here is Robert Spencer’s take on this story:

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Those were the day’s…

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* “Pure Islam” and Michael van der Galiën

When poptarts and clueless twits start writing about things that they don’t understand they need a complete rub-down, and in the above article you can see how Robert Spencer takes this hapless airhead to the cleaners. A pleasure reading, if you have the time…

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The Muslim Brotherhood: A Moderate Islamic Alternative to al-Qaeda or a Partner in Global Jihad?

According to the Muslim Brotherhood, jihad, that is, holy war against the infidels, is one of the fundamental elements spread by the Muslim Brotherhood. The organization’s ideology, as it appears on its official website, regards “the prophet Muhammad as its leader and ruler, and jihad as its path.”17 Jihad has a global strategy beyond self-defense, it is the unceasing attack on every infidel rule, intended to widen the borders of the Islamic state until all mankind lives under the Islamic flag.

“The Goals of the Muslim Brotherhood” and “Muslim Brotherhood Measures” leads to explanations of jihad based on the writings of Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna. Jihad, it is noted, is Islam’s most important tool in effecting a gradual takeover, beginning with the Muslim countries, moving on to reestablishing the Caliphate over three continents in preparation for a conquest of the West, and finally instituting a global Islamic state. The following are quotations from the organization’s website:

We want a Muslim individual, a Muslim home, a Muslim people, a Muslim government and state that will lead the Islamic countries and bring into the fold the Muslim Diaspora and the lands robbed from Islam and will then bear the standard of jihad and the call [da’wah] to Allah. [Then the] world will happily accept the precepts of Islam….The problems of conquering the world will only end when the flag of Islam waves and jihad has been proclaimed.18
The goal is to establish one Islamic state of united Islamic countries, one nation under one leadership whose mission will be to reinforce adherence to the law of Allah…and the strengthening of the Islamic presence in the world arena….The goal…is the establishment of a world Islamic state.19

And if prayer is a pillar of the faith, then jihad is its summit…and death in the path of Allah is the summit of aspiration.20

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CLASSIC KICK ASS BOLTON

Bolton Blasts UN at UN NewsMax.com –
Former US/UN ambassador John Bolton returned to UN headquarters in NYC on Friday to launch his new book “Surrender Is Not An Option.”

El Baradei sux. And so does Condi…

At Last: New Islamic car to have compass to find Makkah

* What will they think of next?

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A worker inspects a Proton Waja at Perusahaan Otomobil Nasional Bhd (Proton) assembly plant in Shah Alam near Kuala Lumpur.

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia: Iran, Turkey and Malaysia are planning to build an “Islamic car” that will have a compass to find the direction of Makkah, Malaysia’s state news agency reported.

The proposed car will also have a compartment for the Quran and prayer scarves, the Bernama agency quoted an official of Malaysian automaker Proton as saying.

“The car will have all the Islamic features and should be meant for export purposes,” said Proton’s managing director, Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir.

“We will identify a car that we can develop to be produced in Malaysia, Iran or Turkey,” he said during a visit to Tehran.

Syed Zainal said the vehicle was an Iranian initiative. “What they (Iran) want to do is to call that an Islamic car,” he said.

The managing director said that with government support, the Islamic car producers will be able to get a big volume of orders.

* Guess that means you can have any car you like as long as its Islamic…


LGF-Lizard Charles Johnson: “We are morally superior, non-racist, kosher and halal…”

..and everyone who disagrees gets booted off his blog, to the cheers of the canniballistic ‘lizard army’ –

‘AMERICAN VALUES ARE UNIVERSAL’-

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‘Europeans are racist, Nazi’s and white power supremacists….

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The latest from King Charles himself:

Interview by Tom Paine or “How to find Nazi’s under your bed if you keep looking…”

or better “why I am right and everybody else is wrong…”

* Here’s what the Lizards stand for:

* No internment and deportations for Islamofascists

* No alliances with Eurotrash, they’re all Nazi’s and can’t be trusted, its better to smear and destroy the resistance in its infancy.

* Europe is not founded on culture and traditions that matter to a brave American cyber- warrior, multiculti-diversity is for everybody and white Europeans should just welcome the marching millions of Africans or pack it in.

* Better to destroy the fledgling counter jihad movement than to let one Nazi-white supremacist get away…

  1. * Yes, and because we’re so morally superior we can handle it all by ourselves: our lizard cyber-geeks will be reporting on the global jihad, stay tuned, don’t switch that dial…

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From the excellent Shire Network News

This week we speak to Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs about the whole giant argument going on within the anti-Jihad movement over cooperation with certain political groups in Europe. Last week we spoke to Filip Dewinter (which you can find here) from the Belgian Political Party, Vlamms Belang. This week we speak to Charles about why he has been raising concerns about the anti-Jihad movment working with certain European groups.

* If you can’t get the podcast to work log on to LGF here

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The view from Europe:

A Utopianism That Demands Self-Destruction
by Baron Bodissey

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Let’s stop pretending all faiths are equal

Religions and cultures that deny women basic equality, or exploit and abuse them, are, as far as I am concerned, a bad thing. I don’t feel the slightest obligation to respect them or to allow them to bring their practices into this country. However, the problem for Cherie Blair, not least during the visit here of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, is that in the western liberal agenda we are supposed to offer equal respect and equal rights to all cultures and all religions, and to people’s universal right to live according to them and to practise their faiths as they understand them. But you simply can’t. You can either have universal human rights, or you can have the universal human right to ignore them for cultural or religious reasons – not both.

If a culture or a religion does not share Cherie Blair’s absolute belief in universal human rights, then how can she respect it? And, for that matter, why should she expect them to respect her opposing beliefs? She spoke on Radio 4 of honouring people’s religious beliefs, when freely adopted, but why? Incidentally, as for Islam being freely adopted, a large proportion of young British Muslims think that the penalty for abandoning the faith should be death. There is not a great deal of freedom in Islam which, after all, means submission.

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* Kilgore is watching:

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Ethnic cleansing and war crimes at Gates of Vienna….
Who Do You Want in Your Foxhole?


All I know is it’s a plan; I don’t really care how they get there, so long as it achieves the desired results… is there another European Party’s plan for the deportation of Muslim immigrants and their descendants that I can compare it to?

Sounds to me like some of our counter-jihad buddies don’t have the stomach for what it’s going to ultimately take to REVERSE the Islamisation of the West. They’re living in some kind of fantasy world where we’re going to be able to achieve our lofty objectives within the realm of the current political processes, and without having to endure a constant stream of racism accusations from both the left and the right.
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To me it boils down to: who do you want in your foxhole? Some crazy bastard who is more afraid of dying than getting court-martialed for violating the rules of engagement, or someone who is reading the UCMJ while the bullets are flying?

Hell, let’s win first… then we’ll worry about who had the high moral ground later.

* Kilgore comments:

Drinkin’ the koolaid. If you’ve ever wondered how the Nazis came to power in Germany now you know.

* Yes Kilgore. But the Nazi’s are gone and it was WW2 when we destroyed them, remember?  Its 72 years later now and there is no Nazi-movement to speak of. The Nazi’s won’t be back.

That’s where you’re wrong,  Messrs  Lizards…

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* But if you’re looking for confirmation, here it is from Charles himself:

That’s the bottom line, really — the real reason why those folks think they need to have groups like VB on their side is because they know their fantasies of mass deportation of all Muslims could never be achieved in reality without massive violence. The neo-Nazis and racists would be the bully boys.

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* There you have it. We ‘can’t have any violence’. ” wouldn’t want anybody to get hurt-, don’t we all? Perhaps Charles is suggesting we throw bibles at them? Money? How about a little flower power?

* How do these turkey’s think the Muhammedan invasion is going to be reversed? By negotiating? Like Israel does with the ummah?

Our Money & Our ‘Friends’- the Saudi’s

* Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, whose $10 million contribution was turned down by Rudy Giuliani in the days after the 9/11 attacks, is purchasing a flying palace.

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By BARBARA SURK and ANNA JOHNSON, Associated Press Writers

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates – In the annals of excess, it could be a new high: a more than $300 million, super-sized luxury airplane, bought and outfitted solely for the private comfort of a Saudi Arabian billionaire.

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Once done, the Airbus A380, the world’s biggest passenger plane, will be a “flying palace” for Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, the manufacturer announced Monday.

Airbus SAS would not give a specific price tag for the VIP double-decker jet, with its football field-length wings, saying only that it would cost more than the aircraft’s list price of $320 million.

That doesn’t even include the money the prince will spend to custom fit the nearly 6,000-square foot plane to include whatever he wants. The options include private bedrooms, a movie theater or even a gym with a jacuzzi. He’ll also need a flight crew of about 15 to operate the luxury liner.

“Prince Alwaleed is the first, and so far the only customer of this aircraft,” said David Velupillai, the spokesman of the Airbus, which announced the luxury order at the Dubai International Airshow.

It’s all just spending cash for bin Talal — Citigroup Inc.’s biggest individual shareholder and the world’s 13th richest person with assets around $20 billion.

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Fitzgerald: Money can buy everything, except civilization

Everyone in the world knows that the Saudis do not work, have not worked, and will not work. A few go to the office for a few hours. Officially the work day for Saudis is about three hours, where they chatter and check on their investments and busily order non-Saudis about. And the same goes for the Emirates and Kuwait and the rest of these places. Every single expatriate who has endured, for the dough, these awful — morally awful, socially awful — places knows this, and comes away merely counting the banknotes as the only consolation.

The Administration should be figuring out every possible way to diminish the oil wealth of the rich Arab and Muslim states. In so doing, it will necessarily have to tax oil and, especially, gasoline. It ought to have done so long ago, in 1973, in order then to recapture oligopolistic rents that otherwise were going to OPEC oil producers. The gasoline tax should have been imposed with great fanfare, and the government should have committed to a steady rise in that tax, ensuring to car manufacturers, and to those in charge of mass transit programs, that the price would never go down. A powerful Saudi lobby, consisting of all those who were sure, or at least pretended to be sure, that Saudi Arabia was our “ally” and would ensure “price moderation” (whatever that meant), helped prevent such an energy policy. The Western hirelings of Saudi Arabia have not only helped them to continue to fund, without being stopped, mosques and madrasas and campaigns of Da’wa all over the West, but have helped them to prevent an energy policy that might have headed off the environmental disasters, including the loss of 90% of the world’s species, that are now almost certain to occur.

Though Saudi Arabia and the other undeservedly rich Arab and Muslim oil states have been the recipients of the largest transfer of wealth in human history, some ten trillion dollars since 1973 alone (and there was plenty in the decades before that), without having lifted a finger to deserve it, they have failed everywhere to create modern economies. Now they talk grandly of “economic cities” they will build. But what Saudis have learned, or will learn, how to work? The Muslim Arab tradition honors not work but rather wealth gathered through raiding parties, or from the Jizyah received from non-Muslims, or from trading. Nothing is made by the Saudis or other Arab oil sheikdoms and countries. Nothing is offered by way of services. They are rentier states. And what is still more maddening, they have somehow been allowed to get the Western world to pay for, to offer up a disguised Jizyah to, all of the oil-poor Arabs and Muslims. It is not Saudi Arabia that spent tens of billions on aid to Iraq, not Saudi Arabia that has given Egypt more than $60 billion in the last few decades, or close to $30 billion (Selig Harrison’s calculation) to Pakistan since the 9/11/2001 attacks. It is not Saudi Arabia but the West that keeps piling money into the pockets of the corrupt “Palestinian” Authority, billions of which disappeared when Arafat died (where did it go? does anyone care?), and that continues to go to Arafat’s cronies, now performing their routine as mild-mannered and sober and eminently trustworthy accountants.

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Fitzgerald: Why the Saudi charm offensive will fail
The mere fact that the Saudis are worried enough to be conducting this worldwide charm offensive by Muslims and especially Saudis –e.g., King Abdullah’s meeting with the Pope — is a good thing. That is, it’s a good thing as long as Infidels maintain a healthy skepticism about that charm offensive, since it comes along with the usual smoke-and-mirrors, delivered by solemn, gravelly-voiced Abdullah or some other among the fungible Al-Saud. (God, what with the daggers and dishdashas, and the double-layer goatee, and the sinister mien, they are so hard to keep apart, aren’t they?) In any case, it is not having the effect that the Muslim propagandists and their Saudi paymasters thought it would.

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Erekat: Palestinians will not accept Israel as ‘Jewish state’

* Of course not.

With an Islamic state, the Pal’s would have no problem at all. But you really start wondering whether all these Western ‘negotiators’ like the clueless Rice and her predecessors ever spent a moment listening or read the Hamas or the Fatah charters. In their eagerness to get some signatures under some ridiculous contracts (which Arabs regard as worthless either way) these fools will destroy Israel, all the while knowing full well that this will be the only outcome of their folly.

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Chief PLO negotiator Saeb Erekat.

By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent and Haaretz Service

Saeb Erekat, chief negotiator for the Palestine Liberation Organization, rejected on Monday the government’s demand that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

In an interview with Israel Radio, Erekat said that “no state in the world connects its national identity to a religious identity.”

* Really? How about the Islamic Republic of Iran? Pakistan? Saudi Arabia? Even Libya’s Gaddafi has given his country the Islamic label. And you have a problem with a Jewish state, Saeb?

Also Monday, dozens of prominent Palestinian residents of Jerusalem published an appeal to the Abbas, asking him not to make concessions to Israel over the holy city in the upcoming talks.

The full-page newspaper ad, signed by 108 prominent Jerusalemites, including top Christian and Muslim leaders, did not make specific demands. However, the signatories asked Abbas not to negotiate a deal that would “violate our national rights.”

“Israel should return all of east Jerusalem, the area it captured in the 1967 Mideast War and annexed to its capital,” said signatory Adnan Hussein, an adviser to Abbas on Jerusalem affairs.

Earlier Monday, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that the starting point for all negotiations with the Palestinians will be the “recognition of Israel as a state for the Jewish people,

This recognition is meant to bolster Israel’s position that rejects the return of Palestinian refugees to areas inside the Green Line – the border before the 1967 Six-Day War.

“We won’t hold negotiations on our existence as a Jewish state, this is a launching point for all negotiations,” Olmert said.

“We won’t have an argument with anyone in the world over the fact that Israel is a state of the Jewish people. Whoever does not accept this cannot hold any negotiations with me. This has been made clear to the Palestinians and the Americans. I have no doubt that Abu Mazen [Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas] and [PA premier Salam] Fayad are committed to prior agreements and want to make peace with Israel as a Jewish state,” Olmert continued.

Olmert also stated this position at a meeting on Sunday to discuss the peace summit scheduled for the end of the month in Annapolis and the negotiations toward a final-settlement agreement. Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, Defense Minister Ehud Barak, IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi and the heads of the intelligence services attended the meeting.

Olmert told the gathering that immediately at the start of negotiations following the summit, Israel will set a precondition that the Palestinians recognize Israel as “a Jewish state.”

“I do not intend to compromise in any way over the issue of the Jewish state,” Olmert said, thereby accepting the position of Livni and Barak. “This will be a condition for our recognition of a Palestinian state.”

Olmert said he raised the importance of this issue during his talks with European and American officials, and their response had been positive.

However, during talks in recent weeks between the Israeli and Palestinian negotiating teams, the Palestinians refused to include the recognition of Israel as a Jewish state in the shared declaration the teams are preparing, which will be made at Annapolis. Erekat’s statement to Israel Radio on Monday did not seem to imply that refusal would waver ahead of the summit.

Olmert also confirmed at Monday’s meeting that talks with the Palestinians were proceeding in a new direction, toward negotiations over a final-status deal, despite the fact that the first stage of the U.S.-backed road map had not been implemented.

The first stage of the road map calls on the Palestinians to dismantle terror groups. The sides had agreed recently that talks would proceed according to the document.

In recent weeks, politicians from the right, especially MK Yisrael Katz (Likud), have taken to accusing the government of holding negotiations outside of road map dictates.

Olmert essentially confirmed those accusations. “There is a new outline,” he said. “The traditional position has been that there will be no road map implementation without the first phase. I came to the conclusion that we are somewhat able to change the tradition.”

Meanwhile, despite Palestinian claims that there is a crisis in the talks, Livni and Qureia exchanged drafts of the joint declaration that Israel and the Palestinians are to present at the Annapolis summit.

Government officials did not deny reports in recent days that Israel had surprisingly softened its stance on the core issues – particularly on borders and Jerusalem.

The prime minister was scheduled to appear before the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee Monday morning to present the principles that will guide Israel in the negotiations with the Palestinians.

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Meanwhile, Pali-Savages Kill 7 of their Own in Gaza: not to worry, just another celebration for AIDS-ridden Yasser Arafarts 3-rd anniversary

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GAZA CITY, Nov. 12 — At least six Palestinians were killed and more than a hundred were wounded here today when a mass rally marking the third anniversary of the death of Yasir Arafat, the longtime Palestinian leader, ended in armed clashes between the rival factions of Hamas and Fatah.

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Give it away, Peres: Peace in our time

by Hande Culpan

ANKARA (AFP) – Israeli President Shimon Peres pledged Monday that his country would work for a tangible result at an upcoming US-sponsored Middle East peace conference, saying that the Jewish state is ready to make peace with the Palestinians.

“Israel has decided to make Annapolis a success, to bring an end to the conflict, to finally make peace between the Palestinians and ourselves,” Peres told a news conference here after talks with his Turkish counterpart Abdullah Gul.

“It takes time to make peace… but I believe we can make peace now with the Palestinians,” he said.

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Our World: Islam and the nation-state
By CAROLINE GLICK

MUSLIM MINORITIES throughout the world are being financed and ideologically trained in Saudi and UAE funded mosques and Islamic centers. These minorities act in strikingly similar manners in the countries where they are situated throughout the world. On the one hand, their local political leaders demand extraordinary communal rights, rights accorded neither to the national majority nor to other minority populations. On the other hand, Muslim neighborhoods, particularly in Europe, but also in Israel, the Philippines and Australia, are rendered increasingly ungovernable as arms of the state like the police and tax authorities come under attack when they attempt to assert state power in these Muslim communities.

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Fjordman: The Truth About “Islamic Science”

* ‘Islamic Science’- as long as it is the Koranic version, is worthless. To put it mildly: it sux. Fjordman injects some sense into the madness:

A new piece from the ever-insightful European essayist Fjordman:

According to University of Columbia’s Arabic and Islamic Studies Professor George Saliba, “Islamic science” virtually created the modern world. This is a bit odd, since Saliba has reviewed the work done by scholar Toby E. Huff, which concludes that Islamic countries largely failed in developing modern science. I have made a series of posts about this issue myself at Jihad Watch. These posts have also been translated to German, and I made a slightly longer essay about this available at the Gates of Vienna blog. I have also had the pleasure of reading Huff’s book The Rise of Early Modern Science: Islam, China and the West, second edition. If anything, I believe he is sometimes too kind with the Islamic world.
He writes: “Our concern is with the fact that from the eighth century to the end of the fourteenth, Arabic science was probably the most advanced science in the world, greatly surpassing the West and China. In virtually every field of endeavor – in astronomy, alchemy, mathematics, medicine, optics, and so forth – Arab scientists (that is, Middle Eastern individuals primarily using the Arabic language but including Arabs, Iranians, Christians, Jews, and others) were in the forefront of scientific advance. The facts, theories, and scientific speculations contained in their treatises were the most advanced to be had anywhere in the world, including China.”

I’m glad he specifies that by the term “Arab science” he actually means anybody who happened to live under Arab-Islamic rule, not necessarily Arab Muslims. Nevertheless, I don’t approve of the term. Whatever was achieved in science during this time period was rarely done by Arab Muslims. “Islamic science” was almost totally dependent upon translations, frequently made by non-Muslims, of the achievements of pre-Islamic cultures, Greeks, Egyptians, Indians, etc. Moreover, a striking number of Muslim thinkers were Persians, who owed more to their pre-Islamic heritage than they did to Islam. Still, I consider Huff’s work to be one of the best books I have read on the subject of early modern science.

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“Pure Islam” and Michael van der Galiën

From the ‘clueless in the Netherlands’ department…

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MOSQUE BUILDING: SAVAGES VS CIVILIZED

Vlaams Belang demonstration (last week) against the building of a new mosque in the Antwerp neighborhood.


The video shows a counterdemonstration of local Muslims. The latter, raising their fists, shout: “Fascists! Fascists!” followed by “Allah Akhbar.”


The VB people across the street, behind a banner
Stop Islamisering”, shout: Geen moskee in onze buurt (No mosque in our neighborhood). The only Nazis I see are the Muslims channeling the Brown Shirts.

Hat tip Paul Belien via Atlas

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Just in case you missed it: Muslim Demo In Londonistan 

Sharp like a razor: “Hairdresser is sued for refusing a job to woman in a headscarf”

* Apply for a job for which you are not suited and scream ‘racist & Islamophobe’ when the kuffar refuses to turn his establishment into a a Muhammedan nuthouse:

Only in Londonistan?

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Bushra Noah

The owner of an “alternative” London hair salon is being sued for religious discrimination after refusing to give a job to a Muslim woman who wanted to wear a headscarf at work.
Sarah Desrosiers, whose Wedge salon specialises in “urban funky” cuts, says she turned down applicant Bushra Noah because she was “selling image” and needed her staff to display their hairstyles to the public.

Ms Noah, 19, is claiming religious discrimination and suing Ms Desrosiers for more than £15,000 for injury to her feelings, as well as an unspecified sum for lost earnings.

* Is there anyone out there who wouldn’t like to sue the world for ‘hurt feelings?’

Ms Desrosiers, 32, who set up her business in King’s Cross 18 months ago, has already spent more than £1,000 fighting the case and says that if she loses she will be forced to close.

She denies any discrimination and says she rejected Ms Noah because she was unwilling to show her hair at work.

“I sell image – it’s very important – and I would expect a hair stylist to display her hair because I need people to be drawn in off the street,” said Ms Desrosiers. “It’s the nature and style of my salon that brings people in and someone having their hair covered conflicts with that. If someone came in wearing a baseball hat or a cowboy hat I’d tell them to take it off while they’re working. To me, it’s absolutely basic that people should be able to see the stylist’s hair.”

Is there something wrong with this reasoning? This case should be thrown out of court immediately: Desrosiers’s action was not motivated by religious discrimination, but by simple business sense. That too, most likely, must give way today to political correctness.

In a legal letter setting out her employment tribunal case, Ms Noah, from Acton, claims she was discriminated against and treated rudely at her interview in March and wrongly turned down for a job she was capable of doing because of her headscarf.
Ms Noah said today she had attended a total of 25 interviews for hairdressing jobs without success and had decided to take legal action because she had been upset by Ms Desrosiers’ comments. She said: “I decided to sue this hairdresser because she upset me the most. I felt so down and got so depressed, I thought if I am not going to defend myself, who is?

“When I spoke to her on the phone she offered me a trial day. But when I turned up she looked at me in shock. She asked if I wore the headscarf all the time. She kept repeating, ‘I wish you told me over the phone’.

Sounds reasonable to me.

“Ever since I was in high school hairdressing is what I wanted to do. It is sad for them to not give me the opportunity. This has ruined my ambitions. Wearing a headscarf is essential to my beliefs.”
Ms Desrosiers said she was struggling to find money to contest the hearing, scheduled for January. She said: “I’m being dragged through the mud and pretty much accused of being a racist. I feel it is totally unfair and wrong.”

Join the club, Ms. Desrosiers.

* Or wrap a towel ’round your head and claim you are now a member of another race. It works. Ask Yvonne Ridley, she does it all the time…

Don’t Panic. Al Qaeda May Strike U.S. Shopping Malls in LA, Chicago, sez FBI

While Samir Khan prays for the death of Rusty Shackleford, some of his fellow believers in their god of bloodlust are planning more sacrifices in the U.S.

“Exclusive: FBI: Al Qaeda May Strike U.S. Shopping Malls in LA, Chicago,” by Richard Esposito and Vic Walter for the ABC News Blotter (thanks to JW)


The FBI is warning that al Qaeda may be preparing a series of holiday attacks on U.S. shopping malls in Los Angeles and Chicago, according to an intelligence report distributed to law enforcement authorities across the country this morning. (Click here for full text.)


The alert said al Qaeda “hoped to disrupt the U.S. economy and has been planning the attack for the past two years.”

Law enforcement officials tell ABCNews.com that the FBI received the information in late September and declassified it yesterday for wide distribution.

This could, of course, be disinformation: an attempt to “strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah” (Qur’an 8:60).

* No doubt the Bunglawalla ding dong would tell us that Islam ‘absolutely forbids the killing of innocent people’- but jihad is self-defense, and therefore justified, isn’t it Bungla? And only Muslims count as humans, because the kuffar is lower than animals, worse than apes and swine, ain’t that right, Bungla?

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UK: Judge puzzled over lyrical would be bomber

Believe it or not: the old scab-infested, imprisoned parasite Abu Hamza, ‘the hook’, played his charms on her. What puzzles everyone about female suicide bombers is the question ‘what do Islamic females get in Muhammads bordello in the sky when they blow themselves up?’

But according to Muhammad (who went to hell and came back) hell was full of women:

Bukhari:V1B22N28 “The Prophet said: ‘I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.’ When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, ‘All the favors done for them by their husbands.'”

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What a silly twit…

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* If you’re interested in alternative reality you can check out the Bunglawala blog here:

Fitzgerald: A tribute to Jorg Haider

Third Rail or Fifth Leg?

* Is it legitimate and necessary, no matter how much we may resent it, to team up with perceived Neo-Nazi’s, anti-immigrant and white power fanatics in order to stop the spread of Islam, further Muhammedan infiltration and the building of mosques and madrassah’s?

* Strange bedfellows or dangerous alliance? History has many examples of strange alliances born of necessity. Why don’t we take all the help we can get and sort our differences out later?

As long as the concept of being a “fascist” is somehow morally worse than the concept of islamic fundamentalism, then the west still has not fully appreciated the gravity of the situation. As long as the concept of “nazi” still draws a more visceral reaction than the concept of “jihadist”, then we still have a long way to go. As long as the concept of “racist” still holds a greater stigma than the concept of female genital mutilation, then the fight has not yet even begun.

What this kerfluffel proves is that many, many of those skeptical of the islamic presence worry less, in fact, about the destruction of our way of life and actually more about their own personal ethics and political philosophies. That is too bad, because it shows that they still do not take the threat of islam seriously enough. For them, this is still just a hypothetical threat – this idea of returning to the 7th century so their anti-jihad position is more of an intellectual exercise, being that the terms fascist, racist, and nazi carry much more weight, and generate much more of visceral reaction in them, than anything we actually are facing – such as the total destruction, not only of our liberties, but of our western way of life – our music, our art, our sexuality, even our history. They don’t actually believe such a thing could really happen in our modern western world, it’s too far fetched, too much of a right-wing fantasy, so they are not willing to break eggs to make omelets.

Complicating this apathy, is the moral equivalence of the affluent but decadent West. Many feel we can fight this islamic threat from ivory towers while still paying homage to the politically correct ideal that the concepts of “racist”, “fascist” and “nazi” are concepts morally equal to, or in fact, worse, than anything represented in 7th century arabia. This moral equivalence is a uniquely western prejudice, a dementia if you will, born of guilt, and fear, of our own past. Ultimately, many of us intellectual anti-jihadists, and that is what we are, really fear and loathe ourselves more than we fear or loathe the islamic threat. The Left should rejoice in this. For that idiom is, and always has been, the message of the Left that, ultimately, it is the white Christian world that needs to be feared most of all.

Pity.

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* The inimitable Hugh Fitzgerald takes the moral high ground. But how do we build a resistance against the Islamization of our countries without getting into bed with unsavory characters? This debate has been raging for weeks now, started by Charles Johnson from LGF who turned his blog into a hysterical holier- than-thou moral-supremacy wankfest, where Nazi’s and white power supremacists lurk behind every bush to ruin the pure and innocent counter-jihad of the valiant warriors out in cyberspace. Conventional wisdom has it however, that you can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs, and the lizard idea that you can -somehow- fight the global jihad without anybody getting hurt is, – to put it mildly, moonbattish. Haider, Le Pen, Flaams Belang: third rail or fifth leg?

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THE Austrian right-wing firebrand Joerg Haider said yesterday he plans to change building laws to prevent mosques and minarets being erected in his home province of Carinthia. from this article

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Jorg Haider is akin to, but worse than Le Pen. He is one of those Austrians who drove the late Thomas Bernhard to maddened distraction, the kind who claim that Austrians were the “first victims” of Hitler (forgetting those cheering crowds, that delight at Anschluss). He exhibits every sign of antisemitism except, perhaps, that exhibited by the BBC World Service and The Guardian and Robert Fisk — that is, not quite so systematically vicious when it comes to the state of Israel.

Haider, by the way, owes his considerable wealth to a fluke. In 1938, someone fleeing Austria had to give up his castle in Carinthia (it’s the title of an old book: “A Castle in Carinthia”), selling it , out of desperation, for a song to Jorg Haider’s uncle, who then left that bit of booty, when he died, to his nice heel-clicking nephew. Many fortunes in Europe were made that way. Why, the book and antiques trade in Austria and Germany has been living off such goods — see the sale of Kafka’s library, which he left to his sisters who were murdered in Nazi death camps, and ask just how that library came into the possession or this or that antikvariat or auction house, and multiply that by tens of thousands of examples. Oh, there was money to be made, and there still is.

When Kurt Waldheim, the late Secretary-General of the U.N. and an unpunished Nazi war criminal, was under siege (stoutly defended by, among others, his own son, “Gerhard Waldheim, Ph.D.”), Haider was among the many Austrians who rallied to his defense.

Let’s review the war career of the man he rallied to Waldheim was present during the round-up of Salonika’s Jews, who were forced to stand for hours and hours, absolutely motionless, under the sun of the city’s main square, while all around them the Nazi soldiers, and especially their wives (who had been allowed to accompany them to Greece), watched and jeered, until those Jews who had not died were sent off to the death camps. Waldheim took part in what was called “Operation Kozara,” whose tens of thousands of victims were mostly unarmed civilians, Serbs and some Jews, and he even won a Nazi medal for his performance in that operation. At the war’s end, Waldheim was an intelligence officer serving in a small unit that was later held guilty of war crimes but he escaped detection as a member of that unit. And later, when the photographs of him in his Nazi uniform set off the investigation that led to the outcry that led to the…that led to nothing, in the end, did it? He, Waldheim insisted that it wasn’t him, or it was he but he was never there, or there, or there, or at least not when people claimed he was. And for at least one of those episodes he absurdly maintained that he had been back home in Vienna, studying or taking an exam. He claimed; they all claim.

Haider is awful, and in ways that are not the usual ways, that even when he has done something that may be right, it cannot be held up for admiration or approval, as in this case. The real right-wing, which must include all defenders or apologists for Nazis, or for other defenders or apologists of the Nazis, cannot be tolerated. Besides, these are exactly the kind of people who, when it looks like the Neu Ordnung of Islam is winning, will quickly go over to the other side, just the way so many Nazis became dutiful and loyal servants of the Soviet Empire in Eastern Europe.

Ordinarily one has to be careful and sparing about the use of “right-wing” and “far right-wing,” because these terms are used, by The Guardian (and the inimitable Robert Fisk in The Independent), to blacken the name of so many who have given no signs of being “far-right” but only signs of recognizing the menace of the Muslim presence in the tolerant, advanced, and so-far helpless-to-resist countries of Western Europe. So we found that charming and articulate Pim Fortuyn, “libertin et egoiste,” and the uncowed unlibertine and conservative Geert Wilders, both described as “right-wing.” No doubt Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the grateful child of Spinoza’s Dutch Enlightenment, has also been described as “right-wing.” Whole communities, such as the Maronites of Lebanon, fighting for their lives during the PLO-imposed civil war in Lebanon, were demonized in the Western press as “right-wing.” It was Eugene Ionesco who noted thirty years ago that the phrase “right-wing Christians [of Lebanon]” was always employed by “the newspaper that everyone reads” — i.e., Le Monde — to describe not plutocrats, but Christian villagers, farmers, small merchants. He wondered what could conceivably make them “right-wing” except their desire to stay alive and not suffer the fate of the Christian women and children disemboweled by Muslims at Damur and other cities.

Today the phrase “right-wing” is systematically placed before the name of any person or group or journal or website that sturdily tells the truth about Jihad and Islam. Many called “right-wing” or “far right-wing” may merely be victims of a campaign to undo them in the public’s mind before they can be listened to, and judged on their merits, by what they actually say and do. But Jorg Haider is not one of them. By what he has, over the past few decades, said and done, he does deserve the epithet “far-right” — so that, even when he does something that is correct, he should not be noticed, and passed over in silence. One can be sure that Muslims will be delighted to pretend that they are outraged by this act by what they will call a “neo-Nazi,” though they and Jorg Haider, in many respects, should get along with each other very well.

So there it is. He supports the right legislation — the banning of further building of mosques and minarets. No doubt his support will be cleverly used by Muslims everywhere to undercut such measures, supported by much better people. And he’s also a far-right-wing swine, and if you accidentally stepped into his galère to be ferried around the lake, get out of that boat at once, and take another.

What more is there to say?

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*Actually, there is lots more to be said. Read the comments also, they’re quite good.

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* The Lizard wankfest continues, in overdrive

But Pamela over on Atlas Shrugs doesn’t buy any. The much derided ‘white power’ symbol from De Winters bookshelf dates back way back when, as we can see here:

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* Charles Martell at the Battle of Tours in 732, which has traditionally been characterized as an event that halted the Islamic expansionism in Europe that had conquered Iberia. “Charles’s victory has often been regarded as decisive for world history, since it preserved western Europe from Muslim conquest and Islamization.”

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“Had Charles Martel not been victorious,” Hitler told his inner crowd in August 1942, “then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world.” Hitler told Mr. Speer that Islam is “perfectly suited to the Germanic temperament.”

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Clear explanation by Paul Belien over at The Washington Times on Nazis and Islamists. I for one am not spooked by the newly resurrected old bogeyman – NAZIS! We are not at war with the Nazis. This is a distraction from addressing the real problem, the real scourge of civilization – Islamic jihad. Paul Belien is editor of the Brussels Journal and an adjunct fellow of the Hudson Institute.

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One ‘sensitive’ moonbat, a ‘Josephine’ attacked Sheik Yer’mami on several occasions while offering no solution or suggestions at all. When taken to task she came up with this:

I agree that, in issues such as immigration policy, the average citizen is not consulted. Our towns, cities and countries are changed without our consent or input. Given that this has happened and is happening, I think it is up to citizens to get involved and become more vocal.

* Start singing, Josephine. Makes you vocal…

Is it necessary or desirable to align oneself with a group such as the BNP? I would not do it. If there was no other group concerned about changing immigration policy and defending and maintaining our democracy, then I hope I or others would have the time and energy to work for change within existing groups that do not have racist underpinnings or backgrounds.

I am opposed to limiting or stopping immigration based on race or ethnicity.
As to how immigration should be managed regarding the threat of Muslims who take their Islam seriously, well, I don’t know. I’m still reading the articles on this site and others and still trying to figure that one out.

The larger (philosophical but also practical) question, for me, is this: How do we defend our countries from the threat of Islam without reverting to a tribalistic mindset?

* Check this: Josephine is not afraid of suicide bombers, cutthroats who fly jets into buildings, honor killings, the burka and female genital mutilation, she worries that our society could somehow be ‘reverting to a tribalistic mindset’-


I think it would have to start with Islam being recognized by our governments as a political movement and not just a religion and would have to include the clear distinction that Islam is not a race.

Posted by: Josephine

* Great. She finally figured out that Islam is not a race.

* Are these the thoughts of a mature person or a mental midget? Would you trust such a person making decisions regarding the future of your country?

I wouldn’t.