Indonesia’s Secular State under Siege

SLIDING TOWARDS CONSERVATIVE ISLAM (another abuse of the term ‘conservative’- is there no way to get these journo’s to use proper terminology?)

Could it be that even German sleeping dogs are waking up?

By Jürgen Kremb from SPIEGEL ONLINE


Indonesia is a nominally secular democracy. But the influence of conservative Islam is gaining in the world’s biggest Muslim country. A further step away from tolerance may be just around the corner.

* Brother, what do you know about Indonesia?! Your concept of ‘tolerance’ would look like a hijab through a kaleidoscope!


A group of conservative Muslims protests against the acquittal of Playboy editor-in-chief Erwin Arnada on Thursday.

It is Saturday afternoon in Kemang, the garish bar district in the Indonesian capital Jakarta. The young patrons partying at poolside on the roof deck of the trendy restaurant “Edge” enjoy a panoramic view of the entire southern part of the city. The only reminder that these partygoers are unwinding in the world’s largest Muslim country is the muezzin’s call to prayer at a nearby mosque.
Well-off models, successful trendsetters, designers and young filmmakers make up the guest list, and everyone is in high spirits, at least until Izabel Jahja, 30, speaks up. Wearing a tiny bikini, she raises her glass of red wine in a toast and says: “Let’s enjoy life, as long as our country continues to allow it.”


Jahja, the self-confident editor-in-chief of glossy magazine A-Plus, is dead serious. The Indonesian parliament has been debating a more stringent anti-pornography law for months. If the law is passed, it will ban a lot more than X-rated books and movies. In fact, it would spell the end of parties like this one, would make public kissing illegal and would mean prison time for anyone bold enough to wear “lascivious clothing.” Theater, the cinema, painting and music, would likewise be curtailed, just as they are today in many countries of the Middle East. “We are on the brink of a comprehensive Islamicization of Indonesia,” says Jahja.

For years, radical Islamists have taken advantage of the democracy gained after the 1998 ouster of former Indonesian dictator Suharto to question that very democracy, all in the name of piety. A cultural war has broken out between the supporters and opponents of religious fundamentalism, a struggle that could deeply change this country and its traditionally softer brand of Islam.

A brutal spectacle

With 221 million inhabitants, of which 194 million are Muslims, the island nation is not only Southeast Asia’s most populous country, but is also home to the world’s largest Muslim population. And that population looks to be growing increasingly devout. Significantly more women wear the headscarf today than a decade ago, and the number of Indonesians making the pilgrimage to Mecca grows year after year. Alcoholic beverages are disappearing from the shelves of supermarkets, and in some places those who violate the Islamic ban on alcohol already face public whipping — a brutal spectacle that is even broadcast on local television stations.

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Radical Imam tells Muslims in Holland not to pay taxes to harm Dutch state -Wilders calls for deportation

Dutch Imam Salam Urges Followers To “Harm State” Counseling “Don’t Pay Taxes”

San Francisco, CA – – Ahmed Salam, the radical Imam from Tilburg, Holland who outraged a significant part of the country’s population in November of 2004 when he refused to shake the hand of then Dutch Minister of Immigration Rita Verdonk, on the religious grounds that he would not touch the hand of a woman, has not moderated his radical Islamist agitation.

This despite having taken a integration course paid for by the Dutch government.

In fact he is stepping up his campaign.

Salam, who only speaks Arabic though having been in the country for over 15 years, was reported by the Netherlands based Brabants Dagblad as having called upon his followers, “Do harm to the Dutch state, don’t pay taxes.”

Stung by the almost universal criticism by Holland’s non-Muslim population [Muslims comprise approximately 10% of the country’s residents] Imam Salam now claims he never urged tax-refusal, trying to stave off calls for his deportation.

* The usual: lie, deny, play the infidels for the fools they are…

Capitalizing on this controversy Tilburg’s Muslims have offered an olive branch of singular brazenness, telling the city’s town council that they will stop going to the Imam’s radical mosque if the council builds them another one, at public expense in the center of town.

* Read it again, take a deep breath…

Marking the extraordinary degree of Dutch dhimmitude, Tilburg lawmaker Jan Hamming has already agreed to that proposal and is urging city residents to help him find a suitable location.

What Tilburg’s officials fail to understand is that any Muslims who have been attending Salam’s mosque are of the radical Islamist persuasion in the first place and therefore opening another mosque with Salam’s “ex-congregants” would only result in two strongholds from which to operate.

Dutch politician Geert Wilders leader of the Freedom Party is heading the call to have a preaching ban enforced on Imam Salam, possibly stripping him of his Dutch citizenship and having him deported.

Tilburg mayor Vreeman has also reacted to Salam’s insolence, stating that the Imam “does not belong here” a suggestion which has brought both criticism and support in this increasingly polarized society.

* Suggestion: Those who criticize his deportation should be stripped of citizenship and shipped out along with him…


MIM: After the murder of Theo van Gogh immigration minister Rita Verdonk attempted to reach out to the Muslims in Holland [insted of asking them why they were there if they hated the country so much] and announced government funded integration courses. At the conclusion of a meeting with numerous Islamist clerics Imam Salam refused to shake her hand and her response was something to the affect of “I can see that we have a lot of work ahead of us”


* Rita Verdonk is Hollands very own version of Nancy Pelosi: A hopeless socialist Utopian with serious inferior-complexes and all the wrong feminist baggage. She couldn’t put up with Ayaan Ali Hirsi. When asked whether she had read the Koran she said ” I don’t want to lose all hope…’

Al Reuters: ‘Beslan Memorial Plan Angers Russian Muslim Leader’

Russian Muslims Seething Over Beslan Memorial

A plan to build a memorial to the hundreds of people—many of them children—killed during the Beslan school takeover by Islamic terrorists has provoked seething from Russian Muslim groups.

They’re angry because it’s not “inclusive” enough: Beslan memorial plan angers Russian Muslim leader.

And notice that al-Reuters won’t even break out the word “terrorist” to describe people who take over a school and rape and murder children.


MOSCOW, March 4 (Reuters) – Plans to build a memorial to the 333 hostages killed three years ago in the Beslan school siege have sparked a row between Christians and Muslims in Russia.

The local Russian Orthodox diocese says it will build a church in the grounds of Beslan’s school No. 1 to commemorate the victims — half of them children — killed in a clash between insurgents and Russian troops.

* A ‘Clash between insurgents and Russian troops’- are you sitting down?

If there was a grammy to be had for bullshit reporting Al Reuters and Al Beebeeceera would be way up there, they might have to split an Oscar in half….

But one of Russia’s leading Muslim clerics has accused the Orthodox church of trying to hijack a national tragedy by building a memorial that he said would exclude the more than 20 million Muslims who live in the country.

“It is not acceptable to present this tragedy as the tragedy of followers of only one religion,” Sheikh Ravil Gainutdin, chairman of the Council of Russian Muftis, said in a statement.

“We need a monument on this site that symbolises a national tragedy, without any religious undertones, where everyone can come and shed their tears.”

* Right. Perhaps some kind of a plaque that sez something like that:

Tabari IX:69, “Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us”- would that be okay, sheik Ravil?


You see, the swine who kill us, rape and murder our kids and their teachers have the hide to accuse us! Accuse us, that if we don’t build an ‘inclusive monument’ where the terrorists are also honored, glorified like ‘the magnificent 19’ from 9/11,- then WE are ‘hijacking a national tragedy’- because Muslims ‘want to come and shed their tears also’…

That’s chutzpah!

Build it, or else…

Stop the planet, I want to get off!

Kick out British Muslim convert, says Labor

Is Labor coming on board? Don’t hold your breath, but there is always hope:


A threat? … Labor says British journalist and Muslim convert Yvonne Ridley should be kicked out of Australia if reports she has praised suicide bombers are accurate



BRITISH journalist and Muslim convert Yvonne Ridley should not be allowed into Australia if reports that she has praised suicide bombers are verified, Labor says.

Ridley, who was a senior reporter for Britian’s Sunday Express, converted to Islam three years after she was captured by the Taliban while on an undercover assignment for the newspaper in 2001.

Her ordeal, in which she was imprisoned and interrogated by the Taliban, made headlines worldwide.

Her own website says she is well-known for her outspoken views and defence of Islam.

Sister Yvonne, as she is known now, also describes radical cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri as “quite sweet really” and says the Taliban have suffered an unfair press.

Ridley is to be a speaker at the first annual Australian Islamic Conference in Melbourne this weekend.

Opposition immigration spokesman Tony Burke said Ridley had praised the Chechen leader of the Beslan school massacre, Shamil Basayev, as a martyr and urged Muslims in Britain not to co-operate with police.

She is also alleged to have described suicide bombings as “martyrdom operations”.

Mr Burke said the Government should have the comments investigated and kick Ridley out of the country if necessary.

“If the quotes are accurate, her visa should be cancelled immediately,” Mr Burke said.

He questioned how Ms Ridley could have passed the character test required for a visa.

Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews said Ridley had been allowed to enter Australia because there was nothing to suggest she was a security risk.

“In the case of Ms Ridley, she was judged not to be a threat to the national security of Australia,” Mr Andrews said on ABC radio.

“There is a vast distinction between allowing somebody into Australia whose views you may not like, and somebody who is a threat to national security.”

The immigration department decided this week not to allow another controversial figure, Sheik Bilal Philips, into Australia.

Sheik Philips, who was to be the keynote speaker at the conference, has been linked to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Centre in New York.

– with AAP

* Update:

Knock knock: Andrew Bolt knocks Ridley  in his blog:

 Muslim extremist blames us for not liking her
As if we didn’t have enough Muslim bigots here without brainless Muslim groups inviting over more:

Firebrand Islamic convert Yvonne Ridley has accused Australians of being among the worst Muslim haters in the world.
Which makes Ridley one of the worst Australia-haters in the world.

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Australia & the Inevitable Result of Islamic Infiltration: Army expert in rocket theft

Army expert in rocket theft/Article from AAP

With thanks to Savitch

Why am I not surprised?

Because the loyalty of a Muslim is with the ‘ummah’- the nation of believers, never with the infidel nation state. Because Islam divides the world strictly in believers and unbelievers. Because a Muslim must fight jihad in order to make the world Islamic. Because ‘War is Deceit’- said Mohammed.

Because, because…

Because you want to be deceived?

AN Australian army captain is the alleged mastermind of the theft and sale of eight defence force rocket launchers, police say.

The Australian Federal Police and New South Wales Police Force now say eight, not seven, anti-tank weapons were stolen from the military.

Police today arrested two men, aged 46 and 39, from Wattle Grove and Mount Annan, in Sydney’s southwest, and a 63-year-old woman from Tahmoor, south-west of Sydney, in simultaneous police raids about 6am (AEST) today.

NSW Police Deputy Commissioner Terry Collins said the 46-year-old man was an army captain who worked closely with munitions.

“We will allege that a captain in the defence force was a mastermind and a key player in regard to the theft and distribution of these (rocket launchers) to criminal elements in the community,” Mr Collins said.

“We will allege the captain had intimate knowledge and had worked very closely in the area where he had access to those type of weapons.”

The second man is a former ADF officer, but police today would not give any details of when he left, his former rank or where he worked. Formal charges are yet to be laid against the three people, but it was expected they would face Sydney’s Central Local Court later today.

Police said the two men are expected to face charges of theft of Commonwealth property among other offences.

The woman is expected to be charged with concealing a serious offence.

Their arrests bring to four the total number of people arrested over the weapons theft.

Abdul Rahman was arrested at a house in Leumeah, in Sydney’s southwest, late last year and charged with 17 offences over the stolen rocket launchers.

Police allege Rahman, 28, had supplied five of the weapons to one of the men arrested in anti-terrorism raids in Sydney in November 2005.

Mr Collins said only one anti-tank rocket launcher has been recovered by police.

He said extensive searches had been carried out in bushland for the missing seven weapons, but their whereabouts were unknown.

The captain worked as a munitions technical officer at the army’s Orchard Hills barracks in western Sydney. Police allege the rocket launchers were stolen in the five years since 2002 and sold for about $5000 each.

Mr Collins would not comment on reports the weapons had been sold to a member of the Sydney chapter of Australia’s biggest outlaw motorcycle gang, the Rebels.

Police also would not comment on whether any other weapons had been stolen, saying that officers were still searching the accused persons’ homes.

Mr Collins said police were determined to recover the missing rocket launchers.

“We have conducted a number of searches in areas where we had believed they might have been concealed in PVC piping. They were unsuccessful.”

The M-72 rocket launcher is a shoulder-fired weapon that can be easily carried by a soldier.

It is made to be used against armored vehicles and fortified positions such as bunkers.

Police said the missing rocket launchers had been taken into account in security preparations for the APEC summit in Sydney in September.


Questions must be asked:

Why are the agents of an alien, hostile cult, whose adherents will kill and die for Allah, a cult that wants us dead or converted; why are active members of ‘the ummah’ allowed to infiltrate the defense forces, the police, the security services in the Dar=al Kufar? ? Who allowed and encouraged Muhammedan agents to work in immigration departments, Islamist baggage handlers in airports, who aids and abets the enemy?

It is not too late. We need to know.

Ayatollah Khomeini Revisited

From the book Anti-American Terrorism and the Middle East (a collection of source documents and statements from key militant Islamic figures), the late unlamented Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini (subject of a recent gushing photographic tribute at the BBC) answers the question, “Is Islam a religion of peace?”
Islam is Not a Religion of Pacifists
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, 1942

Islam’s jihad is a struggle against idolatry, sexual deviation, plunder, repression, and cruelty. The war waged by [non-Islamic] conquerors, however, aims at promoting lust and animal pleasures. They care not if whole countries are wiped out and many families left homeless. But those who study jihad will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world. All the countries conquered by Islam or to be conquered in the future will be marked for everlasting salvation. For they shall live under [God’s law]. …

Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does that mean that Muslim should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill the [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us? Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender [to the enemy]? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to paradise, which can be opened only for holy warriors!

There are hundreds of other [Koranic] psalms and hadiths [sayings of the prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.


Khomeini on Sex:

A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine. From Khomeini’s book, “Tahrirolvasyleh”, fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990


We have video’s on file that prove that Khomeini’s teachings are widely practiced in Islamic countries, but not only: Sir Henry Morgan just sent this in:

 Man arrested for sex with sheep

Article from: Reuters

A MAN has been charged with breaking German animal protection laws after he was caught on camera having sex with sheep.

The sheep’s owner became suspicious last year and installed video surveillance equipment which filmed the 44-year-old in the act, police in the western region of Suedhessen said.

“He admitted sodomising the animals and had no explanation for his actions,” spokeswoman Christine Klein said.

The man, who is a Turkish national and lives in the town of Gross Gerau, faces a jail sentence of up to three years or a fine.

* ‘He had no explanation for his actions’- that’s a good one. Oh well;  I guess if he had been able to ‘explain it’ it would have been alright then, no? 

Diplomats condemn rocket attack on Serb Orthodox monastery in Kosovo

They ‘condemn it’- but what are they going to do about it?

Because ‘Serbien muss sterbien’- Serbia must die. The Euro-dhimi-wits have decided that there is no need for an orthodox Christian state in Europe. Especially not one that defends itself and doesn’t want to give up its ancestral homeland to the Islamo-fascist invaders.


Diplomats condemn rocket attack on Serb Orthodox monastery in Kosovo

* Imagine if the Serbs had launched a rocket attack on a mosque: The Muhammedan seething and whining and their loony left supporters would go berserk!

All such violence against the Serb community or the Serbian Orthodox church in Kosovo is absolutely impermissible and intolerable,” the diplomats from the so-called Contact Group on Kosovo said late Saturday. The group is comprised of the United States, Britain, Germany, France, Italy and Russia.

Associated Press: Sunday, April 01, 2007

PRISTINA, Serbia-Foreign diplomats have condemned a rocket attack against one of the most revered Serb Orthodox monasteries in Kosovo.

“All such violence against the Serb community or the Serbian Orthodox church in Kosovo is absolutely impermissible and intolerable,” the diplomats from the so-called Contact Group on Kosovo said late Saturday.

The group is comprised of the United States, Britain, Germany, France, Italy and Russia.

NATO peacekeepers and police found a grenade launcher on the hillside overlooking the Decane monastery, and a rocket engine was discovered lodged in the outer wall of the building, following reports of a blast near the 14th-century site Friday, a U.N. statement said.

The anti-tank weapon damaged a part of the roof of the wall around the monastery in western Kosovo, NATO said, adding that security measures were increased following the attack.

“The full security of the Serb community in Kosovo is of the utmost importance, and any incidents of violence must be addressed promptly and resolutely by Kosovo authorities and the international community,” the diplomats said in a statement.

UNESCO designated the monastery as a World Heritage site in 2004, and the site is protected by NATO peacekeepers.

A U.N. plan for Kosovo’s future, which has been delivered to the U.N.

Security Council and needs the council’s approval to take effect, recommends Kosovo be granted supervised independence and offers broad rights to the province’s Serb minority to run their daily affairs and preserve their identity and culture.

The province’s ethnic Albanian majority demands independence, while Serbia wants to keep Kosovo within its borders.

The Decane monastery compound has been attacked in the past, but it was spared the worst outbreak of violence in the aftermath of the 1998-99 war when ethnic Albanian mobs targeted the Serb minority and damaged or destroyed some 30 churches.

Kosovo, a province of Serbia, was placed under U.N. administration in 1999, after NATO air strikes ended a Serb crackdown on independence-seeking ethnic Albanians that left thousands killed.

The U.N. plan is expected to be debated by the U.N. Security Council on Tuesday.

Serbs would love to see Clinton hang for this mess, but he won’t…

Update here

The inconvenient Serbs 

ON THIS DAY APRIL 04 1920: Arabs attack Jews in Jerusalem


One of the el-Husseinis, Haj Amin, who emerged as the leading figure in Palestinian politics during the mandate period, first began to organize small groups of suicide groups, fedayeen (“one who sacrifices himself”), to terrorize Jews in 1919 in the hope of duplicating the success of Kemal in Turkey and drive the Jews out of Palestine, just as the Turkish nationalists were driving the Greeks from Turkey.

The first large Arab riots took place in Jerusalem in the intermediary days of Passover, April 1920. The Jewish community had anticipated the Arab reaction to the Allies’ convention, and was ready to meet it. Jewish affairs in Palestine were then being administered from Jerusalem by the Vaad Hatzirim (Council of Delegates), appointed by the World Zionist Organization (WZO) (which became the Jewish Agency in 1929 ).

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