Daniel Pipes at University of California, Irvine

Updated; Transcript added:

From www.danielpipes.org | Original article available at: www.danielpipes.org/article/4263

Speaker Shouted Down at U.C.-Irvine
Fox News: Hannity & Colmes
February 6, 2007

[For a discussion of this event, see “My Disrupted Talk at the University of California-Irvine.”]

DANIEL PIPES SPEAKING AT UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-IRVINE: … a war, of lots of despair.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE DISRUPTER: Daniel Pipes! Daniel Pipes! [laughter, noises, shouts]

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: That was the scene at U.C.-Irvine last Thursday when Muslim protesters disrupted a speech entitled “The Threat to Israel’s Existence,” by Daniel Pipes, the director of the Middle East Forum. Instead of engaging in debate, the demonstrators continued their protests outside.

The university had this to say about the event.

The disruption lasted about two minutes, extended somewhat by other audience members voicing their support for Mr. Pipes. There were no further interruptions and afterward, the hosts of the event went before the audience and thanked the university’s police for its assistance on what the organizers would characterize as a successful event.

Daniel Pipes joins us now. First of all, there is a real threat to Israel’s existence. Anybody that cares about safety and security of people in the region and the State of Israel has got to recognize that’s true. What were they saying when they disrupted you?

PIPES: As they left the hall they said, “Anti-Israel,” “Anti-occupation,” “Anti-oppression,” “Anti-hate,” “Anti-Israel, Anti-Israel.” But what’s more interesting is what they said after they left the hall. Now, I didn’t see this myself, I stayed in the hall. But one of the participants went outside and recorded what was said outside. And there’s a transcript of it. Let me read you just a couple of excerpts.

“It’s just a matter of time before the state of Israel will be wiped off the face of the earth.” That’s the leader of the disrupters. And then he said,

Just keep on doing what we’re doing. Our weapon, our jihad, our way of struggling in this country is with our tongues. We speak out … and this is the best we can do right now. And our brothers and sisters on the other side of the world, they’re handling business in their own way. May Allah give them strength.

In other words, we’re just using our words now because we can’t engage in violence here, but let’s wait until the day that we can. The university, as you just read out, said this is fine. This is a successful event. There are no problems. I can’t imagine.

HANNITY: Daniel, based on the transcript as you’re reading it to us, I’ll tell you, my biggest concern is there are people that think this way in this country and have that mindset and that mentality. That is a threat to all of us. Just listening to their rhetoric, that’s the scary part, isn’t it? Don’t you think this is somebody—if that tape exists as you’re reading that transcript, isn’t that somebody that the FBI would maybe want to talk to?

PIPES: I would think so. There are two problems here. One is that someone will be saying this and no one cares. And the other is that my talk was disrupted and the university is just fine with it, has no problems. They played by the rules. They left. And the university just, you know—just says it’s fine.

HANNITY: But Daniel, look, you know it’s par for the course. If you’re a conservative, if you have different points of view, this is going to happen.

PIPES: It is. It’s happened to me before. Number of institutions. And the universities in the other cases also said, “Just fine.”

HANNITY: Yes.

PIPES: But you know, the university is supposed to be a place for the free exchange of ideas, but yet what we’re finding is it’s the place with the least.

COLMES: Hey, Daniel, it’s Alan. You were invited to what you’re calling a liberal university. And you did speak. And as I understand it after they disrupted the event, something I wish they had handled in the Q& A period. I wish they had challenged you there. But they left and then you got a chance, as I understand it, to finish with your presentation, including the Q & A period. Is that correct?

PIPES: I did have a chance to finish, yes. And there was Q & A, yes. The point is not…

COLMES: So your point is not that you couldn’t be heard?

PIPES: No, I was not. And I’m not complaining about that. I’m complaining that the university has no problem with what happened, as you can see from the press release that they issued today. No problem. It was a good event. There is no moral condemnation of the disruption. There are no steps being taken against the disrupters.

COLMES: What steps would you like taken? Now some of the things they’re saying, I agree, are reprehensible, but do they have the right to say those things under our Constitution and in our society?

PIPES: Of course. I’m not asking they be put in jail. I’m asking for two things. First that the university use its moral situation to say this is unacceptable. This is not the way you do business at a university …

COLMES: But is there some kind of retribution you want? Do you want any action you want them to take against the people that said those things? What specifically…

PIPES: I would certainly say if you do this, if you’re a student, if you do this again, even now we’ve got problems. We’re not going to accept this kind of behavior. And if you’re not a student, you know, don’t trespass on this university and don’t come back. This has to be indicated. The university administration has to indicate this is not acceptable behavior.

COLMES: Should they be expelled if they’re students? Should they be thrown out? Thrown out of school for that?

PIPES: Not the first time. But maybe the second time. I mean, I haven’t thought through in detail the way this should work, but clearly some kind of moral approbation, sorry, some moral condemnation needs to be expressed here. In fact, again, we’re getting moral approbation.

COLMES: The fact is, this liberal university did get a chance to hear your presentation, albeit with a disruption. You said what you had to say. There was a respectful Q & A, and your voice was heard on this campus.

PIPES: There was a respectful Q & A only because the disrupters had to leave. The university administrators made it clear they had to leave. So all the people who were going to disrupt did disrupt and left. And then it became respectful.

COLMES: All right, Mr. Pipes. We…

PIPES: No a way to do business, is it?

COLMES: We thank you very much for being with us tonight.

From www.danielpipes.org | Original article available at: www.danielpipes.org/article/4263

Islamic School

Watch how she weasels and lies:

Here’s a British TV report on the Saudi-funded King Fahad Academy in Acton, where the schoolbooks teach that Jews are monkeys and pigs, and Christians and Jews will burn in hellfire.

The director of the school is interviewed, and she says the translations are inaccurate, taken out of context, etc. You know the drill, and siince you don’t speak Arabic you can’t possibly understand anything about Islam.

More later…

France: Mohammedans Sue Magazine

Koran riots revisited:

Two French Muslim organisations are planning to re-open the Muhammed Cartoons Controversy by suing Paris based satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, which printed the cartoons last February.

The Paris Grand Mosque and the Union of French Islamic Organizations (UOIF), who are bringing the action, appear to be a little confused as to the difference between a race and a religion. They are claiming that reprinting the cartoons is a racist act on a par with anti-Semitic violence or Holocaust denial.

They are sure good dishing it out:

http://www.adl.org/main_Arab_World/arab_media_portrayal_jews.htm

Publisher Philippe Val rejects the charge that his magazine was racist against Muslims. “It is racist to imagine that they can’t understand a joke,” he told the weekly L’Express.

Well brother, as the Ayatollah Khomeini said: There is no fun in Islam!

A Paris court will hear the case on Wednesday and Thursday and issue its ruling at a later date. Hopefully that ruling will be to recognise that Islam is a religion, not a race. It’s a set of ideas that one can accept or reject, not something you’re born with. It has no more right to any special pleading than any other set of ideas.

Some of the angriest protests have been in Tehran, where they promptly promoted a Jew-hate fest and a Moroccan won the first price for this PoS above

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Abu Izzadeen: ‘I was quoted out of context but I would say the same thing again’…

Islamo-logic? Can’t beat it.

Extremist stands by punishment claims

Last Modified: 6 Feb 2007
Source: ITN

The Islamic extremist who heckled the Home Secretary is unrepentant over footage of him calling for British Muslim soldiers to beheaded.

Abu Izzadeen was filmed claiming Muslims who join the British Army face capital punishment under Muslim law.

He stands by every word he uttered in the video that appeared on an underground website.
He insists he was taken out of context but would say the same again.

Scholars from a number of mosques have rejected his version of Islamic law, which they say risks damaging community relations.

These brave ‘scholars’ preach the same thing the moment the infidel reporter walks out of the mosque. 
‘Rejected’ doesn’t mean refuted. Abu Izzadeen, this good muslim brother knows his religion, make no mistake about it…

© Independent Television News Limited 2007. All rights reserved.

US: Fat Cats in Washington Deliberately Deceive the Public about Islam

With thanks to Atlas shrugs and JW
“Public information officers or spokesman for law enforcement agencies are purposely downplaying and in some cases lying outright to the public about arrests of Muslims in the US”

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This from the illustrious Pamela (thanks to E.), and I can say that law enforcement officials at various levels have told me exactly the same thing:

Can’t reveal my sources on this but here’s something to chew on.
“Public information officers or spokesman for law enforcement agencies are purposely downplaying and in some cases lying outright to the public about arrests of Muslims in the US,” so said one Federal law enforcement official.
“We have been told what to say, and more important, what not to say, and warned not to deviate from the ‘template.’

According to this source, this is causing some officers within various departments of federal agencies to become angry at the ‘mandated political spin and pressure” created by ‘orders from above.” When asked who were giving such orders, this source could only say that it was from the “big boys in Washington DC.”

Apparently this is killing morale and “everyone knows it’s a joke.” “It makes some of us sick, the politically correct shit we have to put up with.”

The source whose father was an agent during the 1960s racial problems said what was happening then was nothing short of easy compared to now. “In those days at least there was some honesty in dealing with the problem, today there is none.”

Pamela says this was in response to inquiries about this story.

Canadian Town Stands up to Islam: Muslim groups to launch complaint over town’s immigrant code

Hérouxville has a population of about 1,300

This had to happen. Don’t you just wish it happened everywhere at the same time from Europe to Asia & Australia to the US?

Fat chance! Go to your local council and ask them to do the same:

Quebec village bans stoning of women, veils, and excision

MONTREAL (CBC) – Two prominent Canadian Muslim groups want to file a human rights complaint over immigrant policies recently adopted in a rural Quebec town.

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Imagine: They protest because they will not be able to stone women in Canada!

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The Canadian Islamic Congress (CIC) and the Canadian Muslim Forum claim Hérouxville’s new code of conduct for immigrants fuels negative stereotypes of ethnic minorities and violates the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
CIC chair Mohamed Elmasry told CBC that the groups will file a complaint with the Quebec Human Rights Commission if Hérouxville does not retract its code.
He said the code is regressive with racist undertones.

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Again, Islam is not a race. Islam is the most fascist, totalitarian ideology in the guise of religion that has been waging jihad on humanity since 1400 years. it is time to make an end to it:

Read it all from CBC:

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A poster on Dhimmi watch nails it:

Its time Canadians took a stand and say enough is enough.Why do we need to learn Islam? The Muslims need to learn how democracy and secular societies operate. I hope someone educates Elmasary about the basics of Canadian society and not the other way around. If Muslims want to live in Canada then they have to abide by civilized behavior. Canada does not condone women begin covered and being not allowed to drive and so forth. What is the problem with that?
And no stoning allowed please !!!!Get that Elmasary!

Posted by: faqi at February 6, 2007 01:59 PM

What is the US doing?

I support the current US administration because the alternative seems worse, far worse. But the unbelievable ignorance, the total lack of comprehension, the most ridiculous mistakes in ME policy are typical for most, perhaps all Americans who are unable to grasp that we don’t all ‘want the same thing’ and that democracy and Islam are diametrically opposed.

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Here are some of the most recent examples of US-naiveté and foolishness:
Palestinians’ ‘Saddam Street’ funded by US

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Major thoroughfare in West Bank funded by USAID honors executed Iraqi dictator to emphasize ‘values of Arabness, Jihad he represented’
Aaron Klein, WND
From Ynetnews

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Palestinians in the northern West Bank have named a major street after late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein that was funded – along with the surrounding municipality – by the United States Agency for International Development.

Read it all…

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And then this:

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U.S. military: Iraqi lawmaker is U.S. Embassy bomber

Jamal Jafaar Mohammed, sentenced to death for bombing French and U.S. embassies, now sits in the Iraqi parliament.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — A man sentenced to death in Kuwait for the 1983 bombings of the U.S. and French embassies now sits in Iraq’s parliament as a member of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki’s ruling coalition, according to U.S. military intelligence.
Jamal Jafaar Mohammed’s seat in parliament gives him immunity from prosecution. Washington says he supports Shiite insurgents and acts as an Iranian agent in Iraq.

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Get the whole story from CNN

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Or link up to Jihad Watch

‘Muslims Who Join British Army Must Die’ sez Abu Izzadeen

Omar Brooks, aka Abu Izzadeen

UK army Muslims ‘must die’
Abu Izzadeen is a guy who takes his religion seriously. I have always maintained that anyone that follows Mohammed will end up dead or in jail or both. There might be some ‘moderate’ Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate. With Malaysia’s former pm Mahatir Mohammed  being he latest example of a hate filled moron on the jihad  war path.

By TOM REILLY
February 06, 2007

From the SUN

PREACHER of hate Abu Izzadeen has called on all Muslims serving in the Army to be killed.
In a vile sermon delivered at a mosque he rages against Muslims that work for the Government — and says they should be beheaded.

A recording of the rant has emerged just days after police uncovered a terrorist plot to kidnap and murder a 20-year-old British Muslim serving in the Army.

On the recording uncovered by ITN News, Izzadeen, 30, shouts: “Whoever allies himself with the Kaffirs (non-believers) against the believers — he is one of them.

“Remember the British Government, my dear Muslim brothers, are crusaders — crusaders come to kill and rape Muslims.

“Whoever joins them — he who joins the British Army, he who joins the American army he is a mortal Kaffir.

“And his only hukum (punishment) is for his head to be removed. Indeed whoever changes his deen (Muslim code of life) kill him.”

His sermon was made at London’s Regent’s Park Mosque in the Summer of 2004.

Izzadeen was born Trevor Brooks in Hackney before converting to Islam in 1994 and changing his name.

He became infamous after heckling Home Secretary John Reid when the politician tried to have a discussion with moderate Muslims in East London.

But now he could be jailed for incitement to murder, like hook handed preacher of hate Abu Hamza.

He was caged for seven years for inciting murder and race hate and is in Belmarsh prison.

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It will be interesting to see how the ‘out of context’ defense will be received in court! 

In a related story:

Islam youths are ‘rejecting UK 

MORE than 100,000 young UK Muslims hold extremist or anti-British beliefs, a shock report suggests today.
Tens of thousands think Muslims who switch religions should be punished by death.

More than a third want Taliban-style Sharia law, which regards women rape victims as guilty and says adulterers should be killed by stoning.

And more than one in ten of the 16 to 24-year-olds polled “admire” Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda and other terror groups.

The survey was carried out last month for centre-right think tank Policy Exchange.

Census figures show there are about 320,000 British Muslims in the age group polled — suggesting 100,000 are rejecting British values and culture
Read it all…

Internment & Deportations, NOW !!!

Perhaps we should establish a political party with that slogan. We could name the party IDN – Internment & Deportations NOW!

Because here in Australia we have 350.000 Muslims now. Not one politician has ever dared question their loyalty, their commitment to Democracy and the rule of law or their economic contribution, which i believe is negative or at best negligible.
Muhammedan breeding habits and unhindered immigration will give them critical mass within 20 years. Expect their numbers to exceed 3 to 5 million.

Hijabs, burkha’s and mosques, bearded gangs of hate filled Muhammedans will terrorize us according to Koranic teachings. No more freedom of speech, no more free inquiry, no more bikini’s on the beaches, no longer can single women go unhindered down the street without being harassed or raped.

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Do we want to look on while it happens or do we want to live as ‘kafir dzimmie’s’ under the protection racket of our Muhammedan rulers?

Hugh Fitzgerald from Jihad Watch:

It might not be a good idea to import this problem

…doesn’t it occur to anyone, looking around the world and noticing that in every Infidel land, whether in Europe or in Asia or Africa, or in formerly easygoing Australia, that the presence of large numbers of Muslims has disrupted life for the indigenous Infidels? This presence has caused their lives to be more constrained and unpleasant. It has forced them to defend their own legal and political institutions against constant assault.

It has required them to spend billions upon billions in guarding their own transportation centers (airports and airplanes, train stations, bus stations, ports and ships), schools (Christian and Jewish in Western Europe, Christian and Hindu in parts of Asia), religious institutions (churches, temples), government offices of every kind, skyscrapers that house the offices of American or British or other Western countries, embassies, and so on. And finally, it has led to a feeling of physical insecurity among many Infidels, so that, for example, Jews are warned not to wear outward signs of their faith in most of Paris and in whole cities (Malmo, Rotterdam). Or large parts of cities (see Marseille, see Bradford, Leeds, Birmingham, Manchester, London) are declared dangerous for Infidels and for the forces of order. One has to worry, even along the Champs-Elysees, about the attacks of groups of Muslims on Infidels, both native and visitors.

Read it all:

The study of political Islam