How to Debate With Infidels

Just in thanks to ‘Greykangaroo’ Sydney:
Satire

by Ayesha Ahmed

Dear brothers and sisters in islam:

We live in kuffar country and daily we have to face the infidels who criticize islam and our prophet, and who want to debate us. In an Islamic country if some one did that all we have to do is to announce loudly what he said and the rest is taken care of by an angry mob. The critic is lynched in no time. End of the story. However here we don’t have that luxury as yet. Inshallah in foreseeable future after we grow by conversions of morons and criminals in prisons, legal and illegal immigration and procreation we will,inshallah, become a majority and will not have to face this problem on daily basis. However, for the time being following is an approach all muslim brothers and sisters can use when faced with such a pest. Jazakallah Khair. Inshallah the vermin will steer clear of you in future.

    1. A popular question is “why Islam calls for death of Islamic critics and apostates”. Insist that their info is false. Quote aya “to you your religion and to me my religion”.

    2. To answer “Islam spread with sword”, say that it is a big lie spread by the jews and hindus and that quran clearly says ” there is no compulsion in religion”.

    3. If some one quotes violent ayas from Koran, accuse him of quoting ayas in bits and pieces and cherry picking .

    4. If he then quotes full ayas and ayas before and after, than insist that the translation is wrong.

    5. If he brings ten different translations than say correct meanings can be understood only by reading Quran in Arabic.

    6. If he happens to be well versed in Arabic language than insist that those ayas don’t mean what they appear to mean as they have allegorical meanings.

    7. If he is adamant, than say you cannot understand those ayas and it’s context without reading hadith and sira.

    8.. If he shows up with the hadiths and siras in hand and quotes the context of the violent ayas by referring to hadiths of prophet’s rapes, robberies , assassinations and genocides then insist that “all hadiths and siras are heresay and are false, and only truth is in quran.

    9. If he says Quran is a man made document and wants proof of it’s divinity then refer to the sciences in Quran and the book written by Dr. Bucaile confirming the sciences in our holy book. You can also quote that Mahatama Gandhi read Quran daily and also spoke highly of it.

    10. If he says that Bucaile was on Saudi payroll and that nor he nor Gandhi ever changed their religions and that Bucaile was challenged and proven wrong by many experts then challenge him to ask his experts to debate islamists like Zakir Naik..

    11. If the pests still hangs around then change the topic and find faults in other religions and their books.

    12. If he continues on then use personal attacks and insult him by calling him a jewish a- hole , a Chinese pig or a hindu dog .

    13. If that does not frustrate him, then ask him how much he is being paid by jews to throw dirt on Al Islam.

    14. If he still does not stop then run for his mother and sister and use very filthy language.

    15. If he is very stubborn and wants to continue, then curse him like “Burn in hell, you will repent on last day, Allah will get you in your grave” etc

    16. When all of the above has failed, threaten him with bodily harm and end the debate by drum beating and announcing that you won the debate hands down because Koran is the word of allah.

    17. If possible announce about this debate in an islamist website and that you had won it handily. Such announcements do wonders for the imam of muslim website readers and for dawah operations in prisons to convince low IQ prisoners of the truth of Al Islam.

Two more women assaulted by ‘Asian’ taxi drivers

Sure they were Buddhists and Hindu’s. Or ‘fundamentalist Christians’…

But make sure you don’t mention the ‘RoP’- because all religions are equally bad.

But which religion teaches that infidel women are ‘war-booty?’

From the ‘peecee-is-killing-us-department’

TWO more Adelaide women have told police they were sexually assaulted by taxi drivers.

A 19-year-old woman said she was sexually assaulted by a taxi driver at Bedford Park in Adelaide’s south about 3.15am (CDT) today, a police spokesman said.

The allegation came after a similar complaint against a taxi driver by a woman who caught a cab from Adelaide to south suburban Blackforest early on Sunday.

Both women described the taxi driver as of Asian appearance.

Last week, police revealed they were examining 58 reports of alleged indecent or sexual assault on passengers by taxi drivers.

Police said of the 58 allegations, 12 had been determined to be inappropriate behaviour.

The spate of assaults has prompted the fitting of dashboard stickers in all South Australian taxis displaying driver registration numbers.

Absolute Must Read:
The Racist Truth about Rape 

Totally Wrapped With Yvonne Ridley

Yvonne Ridley, convert to Islam and former hostage, tells Muslims in Britain not to cooperate with police

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Yvonne Ridley, pompously declared: “My faith is my nationality and when you attack it you are being racist.” Her ‘faith is her nationality’- So when you are being critical of her ‘faith’- that makes you ‘racist’…

Of all the far-left nutroots only our decadent society can produce, that’s about the most pathetic claim on ‘racism’ I have ever heard.


Reader Old Atlantic asks: ‘Is this is a renunciation of citizenship?’- You wish!

Muslims Threaten to Kill Fred Nile

Because the enemy of Islam must be killed. That’s what Islam does since its inception.

But immigration is a national security issue, and should be treated as such. The need for Fred Nile’s recommendation is illustrated by the reaction to it.

Australian pol calls for moratorium on Islamic immigration, Muslims helpfully demonstrate why this is needed 


Trying to stop Islam is a capital offense under Islamic law.

And the sharia is coming anyhow, right?
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Kill those who insult the Prophet Muhammad

The link ‘Muhammad’- a Muslim website, has been disabled or taken off the web. However we have saved it and the text is available here:

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“Because upholding the Prophet’s honour is an obligation owed by his entire community and anyone who curses a free man of his community is given a hadd-punishment, the punishment of someone who curses the Prophet is that he is to be is killed because of the immensity of the worth of the Prophet and his elevation over others.”

The kuffar in their sustained crusade against Islam and Muslims have yet again displayed their hatred towards us this time by attacking the honour of our beloved Messenger Muhammad (saw). In September 2005 the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten published 10 cartoons depicting the prophet Muhammad (saw) which were later republished by a Norwegian paper Magazinet. Until now both governments have refused to denounce the drawings and to condemn the publication of them.

Denmark has a history of blasphemy against Islam, only in August did radio presenter Kaj Wilhelmsen say that all fanatical Muslims should be exterminated and the rest should be kicked out of Europe. Last year the queen of Denmark aired her disapproval of Islam and for those ‘whom religion is their entire life’. Prior to this the Danish government issued the right to dismiss a Muslim woman from working in a supermarket for wearing the hijab. Furthermore Denmark is an ally of the war in Iraq with 500 troops stationed in the South and 10 from Norway showing their approval and participation of the war.

Both governments claim that one of their underlying principles is the freedom of speech and that everyone is free to speak their mind and to voice their opinions openly. They claim that the publication of these cartoons is a mere expression of ones opinions falling within the framework of the law. This is the same freedom of expression that quite readily prevents the propagation of Islam and support of the mujahideen using it as and when it suits them.

This should come as no surprise to the Muslims because this is the exact and true nature of the kuffar that Allah (swt) has informed us of in the Quran. The kuffar will never have respect for our deen, they will never honour it and will always seek to ridicule and disparage it. At every opportunity they will try to attack and belittle it whilst concealing the greater hatred they have for it in their hearts. This is also evident throughout the history of Islam where the kuffar carried out similar acts to try and defame Islam. Allah (swt) tells us that; verily, the Kaafireen [disbelievers] are ever unto you your open enemies. [4:101]

At the time of the Messenger Muhammad (saw) there were individuals like these who dishonoured and insulted him upon whom the Islamic judgement was executed. Such people were not tolerated in the past and throughout the history of Islam were dealt with according to the Shariah. Ka’ab ibn Ashraf was assassinated by Muhammad ibn Maslamah for harming the Messenger Muhammad (saw) by his words, Abu Raafi’ was killed by Abu Ateeq as the Messenger ordered in the most evil of ways for swearing at the prophet, Khalid bin Sufyaan was killed by Abdullah bin Anees who cut off his head and brought it to the prophet for harming the Messenger Muhammad (saw) by his insults, Al-Asmaa bintu Marwaan was killed by Umayr bin Adi’ al-Khatmi, a blind man, for writing poetry against the prophet and insulting him in it, Al-Aswad al-Ansi was killed by Fairuz al-Daylami and his family for insulting the Messenger Muhammad (saw) and claiming to be a prophet himself. This is the judgement of Islam upon those who violate, dishonour and insult the Messenger Muhammad (saw).

Shortly after these incidents the people began to realise that insulting the Messenger of Allah (saw) was not something to be taken lightly and that by doing so would mean that you would be killed for it, a concept that many have seem to forgotten today.

The insulting of the Messenger Muhammad (saw) is something that the Muslims cannot and will not tolerate and the punishment in Islam for the one who does so is death. This is the sunnah of the prophet and the verdict of Islam upon such people, one that any Muslim is able execute. The response of the Muslims all over the world shows us the inability to deal with such people, the kuffar are attacking our Messenger and are allowed to get away with it whilst the Muslims have no power to do anything about it. The leaders of the Muslim world have no care for the deen of Islam as they are busy cementing their seats content with their power and wealth. Where are the Muhammad ibn Maslamah’s of our ummah who will defend the honour of our beloved Messenger and rise the banner of Tawheed high?

But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and attack your religion with disapproval and criticism then fight (you) the leaders of disbelief – for surely their oaths are nothing to them – so that they may stop (evil actions). [9:12

Petition to ban radical Islamic groups in Australia:

http://www.cdp.org.au/fed/emailformpetition.asp 

Muslims dominating communities: Nile

Article from: AAP

CHRISTIANS in Australia say they are being persecuted by Muslims who have built up such numbers that they dominate entire communities, Christian Democratic Party leader Reverend Fred Nile says.

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Mr Nile caused controversy at the weekend by calling for an immediate 10-year moratorium on Islamic immigration.

Today he said Australia should give priority to Christians wanting to flee persecution in Muslim countries.

Mr Nile said there had been been no serious study of the potential effects on Australia of the more than 300,000 Muslims already here.

He said he wanted a study to look at the examples of the Netherlands and France, where the Muslim minority had become large enough to “flex its muscle”.

“The same thing is happening in our city of Sydney … they (Muslims) concentrate and virtually by population numbers they dominate that actual community,” he said on Southern Cross radio.

Mr Nile said Egyptian Coptic Christians had told him persecution by Muslims had followed them to Australia.

“They say to me, `We feel tension building up, we came to this country to get away from … discrimination and persecution and we feel the same sort of spirit is growing here,'” he said.

Christians from Yemen told him they had to pretend to be Muslims in their home country to avoid persecution in the street.

And Muslim embassy staff also often discriminated against Christian visa applicants, he said.

“I don’t want Muslims working in our embassies overseas dictating who comes to Australia, let’s give priority to persecuted Christians,” he said.

“Muslims aren’t persecuted in Muslim countries, Christians are.”

Mr Nile admitted Muslim immigration was an easy target for politicians but while he advocated tolerance, he had real concerns over the numbers coming to Australia.

* Must read: Separationism 

* The Greens, as always, prefer to remain blissfully ignorant and play the race card:

The NSW Greens called on the major parties today to publicly reject Mr Nile’s call for an immigration moratorium and cancel any preference deals with his party.

“Rev Nile’s statement makes NSW look ugly and racist,” Greens MP Lee Rhiannon said.

“All public figures should distance themselves from such an unacceptable policy.”

Is Netanyahu the Man? Pamela goes for it:

Pamela Geller:

It was a relief to listen to Netanyahu after Livni. I hear over and over again from Israelis that Netanyahu wasn’t strong enough when he was Prime Minister. He inherited Oslo, what did they expect and frankly next to what they elected – he is positively hardline. Think about it.

His message. Divest in Iran. There is an alternative to military action and that is divest, divest, divest.

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Closing Remarks. Click on below “continue” link to see Parts I and II – total run time 15 minutes

Why Europeans Should Support Israel

Don’t miss this absolutely superb piece by Fjordman at the Brussels Journal. A highlight:

Europeans need to understand how closely intertwined are the fates of Israel and of Europe itself. The term “Judeo-Christian” is not a cliche. We cannot defend Western civilization without defending its Jewish component, without which modern Western culture would have been unthinkable.
The religious identity of the West has two legs: The Christian and the Jewish ones. It needs both to stand upright. Sacrificing one to save the other is like fighting a battle by chopping off one of your legs, throwing it at the feet of your enemies and shouting: “You won’t get the other one! We will never surrender!” We could always hope that our enemies will laugh themselves to death faster than we bleed to death, the Monty Python way of fighting. Maybe that works, but most likely it will leave us crippled and pathetic, if not dead.

Don’t fail to read it all.

Hardline clerics urge tax cheating

Richard Kerbaj   The Australian
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HARDLINE Muslim clerics are encouraging their followers to cheat the tax system because they consider paying income tax contrary to Islamic law.

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Muslim leaders have warned that fundamentalist imams who put sharia law ahead of Australian law are also condoning welfare fraud and the cash economy as tax-evasion methods.
Sydney-based Islamic leader Fadi Rahman told The Australian that the extremist clerics who were preaching messages against paying income taxes were also staunchly opposed to Western ideologies, including the Australian way of life.

He said he had heard hardline clerics at Friday sermons in Sydney highlight the importance of cheating the tax system.

“I mean, just like how you’ve got clerics (with) extreme views who are telling the Muslims in the Western world to declare war against the very country that they live in and the very country that is paying for their day-to-day life, you’ll find that these are the clerics who are telling them to dodge the tax system,” said Mr Rahman, a youth leader and the president of the Independent Centre for Research Australia.

“Tax, itself, is not allowed in Islam. So they (clerics) encourage them that if there’s any way that you can dodge paying the tax, then you should do it.”

The Australian understands that the clerics pushing for taxevasion espoused a fundamentalist form of Islam called Wahabbism.

* Which is not to say that other Islamic sects are better taxpayers. ‘Wahabism’ is a red herring, but hey, its encouraging because it would be the first time one Muslim criticizes another, which is ‘haram’- forbidden in Islam…

* Read it all…