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So what does the Koran say?

Lets revisit Banning the Burqa”, screened on SBS, Tuesday  the 21st of September

How can banning the burqa be such an affront to Islam if it isn’t required by the religion? How long can Muslims have it both ways?

No Straight Answers on the Burqa? (Andrew Bolt)

Earlier, Tim Blair posted on BAGFEST: Wearing their finest freedom sacks, the babes of Hizb ut-Tahrir are loud, proud and under a shroud:

Sheikh Shady al-Suleiman said Muslims loved Australia but rejected interference in the practice of their religion. ‘’Keep away from our affairs,’’ he said.

When your religion is in the main street, strolling about in Mohammed’s Snuggie and viewing the world through a mail slot, it’s not just your affair, mate. More from Ardati:

‘’We dress like this because it is the command of Allah, not any man.’’

There you go:  Allah commands, the believers have no choice. But at the same time they tell us ‘its their choice’ and we cannot tell people what to wear. Confusing indeed, especially for Australians who are unfamiliar with Allah’s duplicitous ways, because Allah is the best of schemers, (Koran 3:54)

To clear things up, I did check my Koran (King Fahd Academie translation) which is the most precise. Here’s what it says:

Sura 33, Al-azab, 59:

O prophet! Tell your wives (sic) and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils)all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way) that will be better……

Islamically correct one eye burqa

So then: the only question that remains is why the lies and why the denials?

The answer should be easy: Western useful idiots are demanding that we respect ‘their right’  to wear what they want. Indeed, what could be worse than Westerners telling Muslim women what to wear?

However, where the soldiers of Allah  have the upper hand, Muslim women have to chose between the freedom sack or else:

Chechnya forcing women to wear Islamic dress

It’s bitterly ironic how often we’re told that Muslim women in the West wear Islamic dress freely and proudly. Yet Islamic spokesmen in the West never seem to get around to addressing this kind of coercion.

An update on this story. “Chechnya Coerces Women on Dress, Activists Say,” by Sophia Kishkovsky in the New York Times, September 27 (JW)

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German bank votes to expel Sarrazin after racist comments

Thilo Sarrazin, How Germany is commiting suicide by Islam

Thanks to Vlad Tepes, Tundra Tabloids & the Baron we have the vid with subtitles now:

Vlad: Thilo Sarrazin is a member of the board of the Bundesbank in Germany. For several years his outspoken opinions about immigrants have caused controversy, but the real trouble began with the recent publication of his new book, “Deutschland schafft sich ab — Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen” (“Abolishing Germany — How we’re putting our country in jeopardy”), which describes the danger Germany faces due to the large number of Muslims now residing within its borders.

For those who can speak or read German, here is the latest from PI: “Hart, aber fair”: Von Experten und Cholerikern

Banker said that immigrants in Europe incapable of integrating and cites studies that ‘all Jews share a certain gene.’

J’Post

The German central bank voted unanimously in favor of dismissing board member Thilo Sarrazin on Thursday, following racist comments stereotyping Muslims and Jews.

Sarrazin was expected to appeal the bank’s decision.

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Germany’s central bank rejects racist comments

Sarrazin maintains Muslim immigrants in Europe are unwilling or incapable of integrating into western societies and has cited studies he says prove that “all Jews share a certain gene.” The issues are the basis of his book on immigration issues that caused an uproar even before its Monday release.

Sarrazin’s comments sparked outrage from lawmakers and community leaders, and many agreed with German Chancellor Angela Merkel saying he should be removed from the bank’s board.

Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble on Wednesday told journalists Sarrazin’s remarks were “irresponsible nonsense” that violated his duty to show political restraint as a Bundesbank board member.

Sarrazin insists his comments were taken out of context and his remarks are covered by freedom of speech.

Although Merkel’s government condemned his comments, it cannot force his departure due to the Bundesbank’s independence. To remove him from its six-member board, the Bundesbank would have to ask German President Christian Wulff to order it.

This is not the first time Sarrazin has provoked controversy. He was forced to resign part of his duties at the central bank last year, following remarks about Berlin’s Arab and Turkish populations. In his new book, the 65-year-old maintains that immigrants have taken from Germany’s welfare system without contributing enough to the country.

Sarrazin’s party, Germany’s left-leaning Social Democrats, launched proceedings Monday that could force him from the party.

Lamakers from the far-right NPD party in Saxony’s state parliament, meanwhile, held a banner saying “Everybody knows it: Sarrazin is right” during a visit by the German president to the legislature on Wednesday.

Burqa Watch

Mullah sends this in:

7’s Today Tonight with the results of their “should the burqa be banned …” poll. Result 97% Yes, 3% No.

Australia’s burqa ban debate heats up [Video]

thanks to Islamization Watch

The man makes sense.

The Mohammedan shill offers the usual BS: ‘its only a tiny minority, less than .5 percent, its divisive, (as if Islam was not divisive!) its targeting and demonizing a particular group, is about “choice”, (its not) its about democracy (which Muslims want to replace with sharia) its a manifestation of their religious identity  (which makes them unemployable) its a poll from the Herald Sun which is not representative of the majority of Australians” , etc. etc……

The burqa is not (yet) banned in France. But new immigrants who choose to wear the burqa or those who force them into it, would have their French citizenship application rejected.

In the next video ~ the person posting it has interjected his opinion, but it covers the burqa debate raging in Australia all the same. Read more…

Tall Claims by Muslim Clerics:

Mohammedanism makes women just like Madonna, Muslims are guardians of Italian virtue & traditions:

(Italy) A woman in Italy was fined for wearing her burka in public and in response the head of Italy’s Muslims has opined how veiled Islamic women have become the true upholders of western traditions of female dress;

“If we go and see the beautiful artistic representations of the Madonna, we see her with the veil. We don’t see her semi-naked, I think.For that reason, I believe it is the Muslims who are protecting the traditions of our country.”   Islamic males find yet another excuse in which to defend oppressing women/eye on the world

Burqa ban

Today Tonight

The burqa, a traditional dress of conservative Muslim women which completely covers the face, is also becoming the disguise of choice for criminals. (the burqa is not “traditional dress of conservative Muslim women”, that is BS. The burqa is a symbol of defiance against western society. 30 years ago most women in Muslim countries would not wear the veil, this militant perversion of women’s rights  comes from the Saudis who brainwash new imams to brainwash the believers, and muslim women are forced into it, or else)

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Australian lawmaker calls for debate on Muslim immigration

Outcry as MP calls for debate on Muslim enclaves

Newscom.au/ Kevin Andrews calls for debate on Muslim enclaves | The Australian H/T Mullah

Of course there’s a link: between uncontrolled Muslim immigration and terrorism

LIBERAL MP Kevin Andrews has blamed political correctness for a failure to debate the Muslim “enclaves” in parts of Australia.

  • Kevin Andrews wants Muslim debate/long overdue
  • Islamic Council says its counterproductive/of course its”counterproductive” – to Islam….
  • Greens say suggestion ‘despicable’-  Remember, Bobby Brown has the most to lose….

Instantly, the usual suspects go apeshit:

Opposition frontbencher Greg Hunt distanced himself from Mr Andrews’ comments.

“Our approach should be colour-blind, ethnicity-blind, background-blind and simply focused on their ability to contribute,” he said.

“I believe in a diverse and multicultural Australia.” (Muslims believe in an Islamic Australia and are religiously obliged to make Australia Islamic/ed)

Mr Andrews told The Australian Online that it was clear that some Muslims were not “dispersing” into the community as other ethnic groups had in the past.

“I don’t think it’s happening as rapidly as with other communities in the past. I think it’s desirable,” he said.

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