Australia: Muslim university students want lectures rescheduled around prayer times

* More stealthy advancement of Sharia under the guise of religious rights.

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FZ: “There’s a difference between kneeling down and bending over…”

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“Muslims want unis to fit prayer time,”

by Richard Kerbaj and Milanda Rout for The Australian

MUSLIM university students want lectures to be rescheduled to fit in with prayer timetables and separate male and female eating and recreational areas established on Australian campuses.

International Muslim students, predominantly from Saudi Arabia, have asked universities in Melbourne to change class times so they can attend congregational prayers. They also want a female-only area for Muslim students to eat and relax.

But at least one institution has rejected their demands, arguing that the university is secular and it does not want to set a precedent for requests granted in the name of religious beliefs.

La Trobe University International chief officer John Molony said several students had approached the Bundoora institution about rearranging class times to fit in with daily prayers.

Mr Molony said the university was attempting to “meet the needs” of an increasing number of Muslim international students, including doubling the size of the prayer room on campus.

La Trobe University International College director Martin Van Run said that although it was involved in discussions with the Muslim students who had made the requests, the university was not planning to change any timetables.

“That would seriously inconvenience other people at the college and it is not institutionally viable,” he told The Australian. “We are a secular institution … and we need to have a structured timetable.”

Mr Van Run said that Saudi students were fully aware that the university was secular before coming to study there. “They know well in advance the class times,” he said.

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* They knew it in advance. Which doesn’t mean they accept it. It is their Islamic duty to make the infidels yield to their demands..

A spokesman for RMIT University would neither confirm nor deny reports that Muslim students had requested timetable changes.

One university source told The Australian that the requests by Muslim international students for timetable changes included a petition.

“Some of the students would prefer that lecture times were organised so it would be easy for them to attend prayers,” he said. “But it wouldn’t be a good precedent to set.”

Islamic leaders yesterday backed the push by Muslim students to have their lectures arranged to accommodate prayer sessions, but said such a move would be essential only for congregational Friday prayers.

Female Muslim leader Aziza Abdel-Halim said yesterday it was a religious duty for those who followed Islam to preach with their fellow believers on Fridays.

But the former senior member of John Howard’s Muslim reference board said there was nothing in Islam that indicated men and women be segregated when it came to educational activities.

“There’s nothing in Islam that says there should be complete segregation, especially in educational institutions,” said Sister Abdel-Halim.

She said afternoon prayers for Muslims – Zhohor, at 1.10pm, and Asr, at 4.50pm – could be performed until 10 minutes before the following daily prayer, so it was more appropriate to alter prayer times than lecture schedules.

“It’s reasonable to ask for the lectures to be shifted around on Friday,” Sister Abdel-Halim said. “But if it’s going to cause havoc with the timetable, I don’t think it’s really feasible to ask forevery single prayer to be catered for.”

* Bend over and spread ’em, kuffars! Here comes Islamiyah….

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* They also want a female-only area for Muslim students to eat and relax.

Maximus sez:

They’re just begging to be thrown out of the country…

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10 thoughts on “Australia: Muslim university students want lectures rescheduled around prayer times”

  1. Build your own schools & universities! Yes you fund them.
    Otherwise there is no need to enlarge the prayer rooms, you just need to share with the Jews in the synagogues and there is plenty of extra space! Duh………..

  2. Then if the children can’t share, no one gets any.
    Simple helpful solutions = #1 Stay at home, #2 miss the class time, #3 build your own school #4 repaitriate….you not really welcome anyway so why offend the others?

  3. PS: Not YOU sheikyermami – just the style of prose I’m outletting my comments today. Looks stange (even to me). Also no offence if your Jewish I have great respect for the people along with all the other religions that mind their own busness and “truly” advocate peace while respecting the values of others.

  4. I believe it only fair that we embrace the religion of peace. Why not commission a communal stoning facility where Muslims and Infidels can gather and ascimilate over an honour killing or execution for apostasy?

    But seriously, I thought we’d be safe from these guys for some time yet. Guess they’re not only breeding in Sydney’s Western suburbs then, huh?

  5. * Muslim students, predominantly from Saudi Arabia

    Interesting, because Saudi provides (mandatory?) orientation courses for its students
    coming to Oz & other Dar al-harblands with educational tips and how to behave in their
    host countries. Surely the courses would point out that Oz universities don’t stop for
    Muslim “prayer” times, & that Muslims should adapt to the local arrangements.
    Apparently not.

    http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=106124&d=27&m=1&y=2008&pi%3Cbr%20/%3Ex=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom
    Saudi Students Taught How to Behave in Host Countries
    Lulwa Shalhoub, Arab News

    JEDDAH, 27 January 2008 — Over 3,000 students from Jeddah, who are going abroad as
    part of the King Abdullah Scholarship Program, which is in its third year, attended a four-day orientation course offering them educational tips and how to behave in their host countries.
    […]
    He stressed that students have to respect the traditions of the country they are traveling to and that they need to be able to manage their monthly allowances.

    Most of the lectures were similar in content, and stressed the need for students to stick to their religion and adjust to their learning environment.
    […]

  6. Note to those who want this rescheduling-there are no such headaches in the ummah. Please go there.

  7. I have no problem with women-only gym hours in general, but if it is to accommodate a sub-group of women then it’s a different story.

    These things have to be fought because we have no reciprocation. (yes,,I know we all know that).

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