'We decide who comes here"… really?

The Australian boat people fiasco  is essentially a determined Muslim immigration, being part of the stealth jihad, with the vast majority of arrivals being from Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan.

“Citizens should have a say in the number of people who want to settle in their country”– trouble is, we are governed by  fools who reject direct democracy. They see us as their exchangeable subjects.

asylum-seekers_finalThe “refugees” are more than 90% men of military age.

“Refugees flee poor countries because they are at risk of death or serious harm”– yes,  genuine refugees, that is.  That is indeed the traditional view.  But Muslims are driven by a different motive. Muslims see themselves as soldiers of allah who are religiously obliged to spread Islam through migration, (hijra). Muslims don’t come to Australia to become Australians, they come here to make Australia Islamic. That needs to be understood.


The chief weapon in the quiver of all Islamist expansionist movements, is the absolute necessity to keep victims largely unaware of the actual theology plotting their demise. To complete this deception, a large body of ‘moderates’ continue to spew such ridiculous claims as “Islam means Peace” thereby keeping non-Muslims from actually reading the Qur’an, the Sira, the Hadith, or actually looking into the past 1400 years of history. Islamists also deny or dismiss the concept of ‘abrogation’, which is the universal intra-Islamic method of replacing slightly more tolerable aspects of the religion in favor of more violent demands for Muslims to slay and subdue infidels”-– Hugh Fitzgerald

Migration control an important tool of national social policy

Gary Johns, The Australian

SAVING one refugee is humane: saving one million refugees is almost certainly not. Large numbers of refugees, or migrants not carefully chosen, can change the nature of the host country, to its detriment. If Australia were to consist of a mix of Iraqs, Irans, Afghanistans, Syrias, Somalias, it would no longer be Australia.

Refugee advocates can never summon the courage to answer the question of how many is too many. Instead, they hide behind the particular instance, always ignoring the big picture. Governments, on behalf of all Australians, cannot ignore the big picture. The morality of the few is not the same as the morality of the many.

An overly legalistic and generous refugee regime, detached from its consequences, makes Australia vulnerable to large numbers of refugees. The effect, if indeed not the object of refugee advocacy, is to disarm Australia. The law for one creates the problem for many. This is the nub of the issue, and politicians, not lawyers, have a responsibility to solve it.

It was, therefore, with some amusement that I listened last week to David Marr’s ABC FM Radio Classical interview with Renata Kaldor. Renata, along with her husband Andrew Kaldor, established last October the Centre for International Refugee Law at the University of New South Wales.

The centre’s founding director, professor Jane McAdam, is, we are informed, “one of the world’s leading international refugee law scholars”. She has said the centre aims to bring “a principled, human rights-based approach to the issue of refugee law and policy in Australia by feeding high-quality research into public policy debates and legislative reform”.

What principles, and more especially, what policies are these?

McAdam writes, “Relative to the rest of the world, Australia receives an extremely small proportion of asylum-seekers: only 2 per cent of the industrialised world.” So, it is a numbers game. What is better, 3 per cent, or 4 per cent? The law cannot determine that number. Human rights provide no guide: except apparently the more the merrier.

Refugees flee poor countries because they are at risk of death or serious harm. The reasons for their plight are many, but essentially, the people in these nations have not, and may never, arrive at the formula for governance that liberal democracies discovered in generations of painful struggle, starting with the English revolution of 1640 to 1660. Australia has, and more importantly Australians have, developed the habits of liberal democracy.

Australians do not tear themselves limb from limb, but graciously accede to an election loss and know that, in losing, rights to treatment under the law will be preserved. The same is not true in those nations, or bits of them, from which refugees flee.

Paul Collier’s fine study, Exodus: Immigration and Multiculturalism in the 21st Century, proves that the immigration from poor countries to rich is on the rise. The numbers of those who want to take the protections of the liberal nation state, but potentially forsake its disciplines, are also on the rise.

Collier’s thesis is that, left ungoverned, as has occurred in Europe, migration will accelerate and become excessive. This is why migration controls, far from being an “embarrassing vestige of nationalism and racism”, are important tools of social policy.

He asks “suppose that international migration would become sufficiently common as to dissolve the meaning of national identity”.

He makes plain what is obvious to almost all Australians, that a national identity and a clear set of rules that all citizens obey are the price of liberty. More powerfully, he argues, “nations are important and legitimate moral units”.

Immigration policy that is “less than an open door” is not mean spirited, and in a powerful rebuttal of our internationalist heroes, “nations are not selfish impediments to global citizenship”, they are the only way to provide public goods such as pensions and security. He comments on our boatpeople situation and makes the point that Australians have the right to restrict entry.

Diversity is beneficial, up to a point, and while globalisation should eventually lead to convergence in incomes between rich and poor nations, until that time the vulnerability to over-large migration flows is serious, for host nations and sending nations.

Permanently rising cultural diversity runs the risk of undermining mutual regard. Migrants hanging on to unacceptable practices that prevailed in their countries of origin at the time of migration may cause harm in the host nation.

Neither judges nor academic lawyers can determine how many immigrants-refugees are enough. Only the citizens, who have attained the habits of the liberal democracy, and who must live with the newcomers and indeed help their integration, can determine how many is enough.

No integration possible:

Immigration Department’s figures, released in 2012, revealed that five years after arrival the rate of employment – not unemployment but employment – of Afghans was just 9 per cent, while 94 per cent of Afghan households received Centrelink payments. From Iraq, 12 per cent were employed while 93 per cent of families received Centrelink payments.

3 thoughts on “'We decide who comes here"… really?”

  1. Again ….
    Do NOT Believe what the LYING Islam muslim say – EVER

    RAPE YOUR WOMEN – Yes Doing that – and occasionally your men (but in secret we also kill them) ..
    BOMB YOUR BUSES – We Light forest fires, incinerate your cars – just like in Paris, burn anything you own we fancy burning (these all good because you don’t suspect it is us) ..
    RIOT IN YOUR STREETS (we have already often done this and we have a very good time) AND ..
    DEMAND THAT YOU ACCEPT MY RELIGION – we build Mosque upon Mosque upon Mosque – anywhere WE want ..
    WHY CAN’T YOU BE MORE TOLERANT? – we have given you halal certification – crafty way to make you pay a tax to Islam to Jihad yourselves ..

    AGAIN ISLAM TELL US HOW (immigration) WHEN (while they live) WHERE (Australia – Western Democratic Countries) AND WHY (Islam’s Trilogy COMMANDS we do it) !!!! – Australia’s Politicians Dhimmi on Dhimmi-ing! – Australians (and other non-muslim) ALL BIG FOOLS – WE KNOW !!!!

    SILLY AUSTRALIAN – WE (Islam muslim) DO WHAT WE (Islam muslim) WANT (In OUR Australia) – NOT WHAT YOU (Australian non muslim) WANT – HOW DUMB CAN YOU (Australian non muslim) GET – YOU KEEP ELECTING YOUR POLITICIANS – OUR ISLAM SLAVES ?!
    Big Aussie Blokes – WE NOW OWN YOU – Thanks to your Politicians
    …. END – WHAT ALL ISLAM muslim THINK & SAY


  2. 90% of the “immigrants are males of military age”? If that doesn’t sound like a less than subtle implantation of the soldiers of allah, what does?

  3. part of the re-distribution of wealth & people, on a global scale. if the natives don’t move, send in the jihadies to bust up the country so they Have to move.

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