Another ignorant clergyman babbles stupidly about Islam, of which he knows next to nothing…

Catholic Archbishop of Brisbane: “The extremists’ barbarism seems apocalyptic. It has nothing to do with real Islam.”

MarkColeridge“The Catholic Archbishop of Brisbane, Mark Coleridge, said people should think about what social psychosis was driving some young Muslims to give their lives fighting ‘on the altar of the demonic’ for the Islamic State. ‘The situation needs prayer, action and deep reflection,’ he said. ‘The extremists’ barbarism seems apocalyptic. It has nothing to do with real Islam or God and is blasphemy of a kind.’” At least on the basis of this report, he doesn’t seem to have explained what he thinks that the Islamic State is doing that has nothing to do with real Islam, but probably he assumes that Islam teaches peace and tolerance, and that therefore their actions against Christians and Yazidis are wrong on Islamic grounds. This is, unfortunately, not the case, as the Qur’an commands Muslims to fight even against the People of the Book (which includes Christians) until they “pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29). For Yazidis, who are not People of the Book, the only options according to Islamic law are the options the Islamic State gave them: convert or die. “The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax…The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim” (‘Umdat al-Salik o9.8-9)

The archbishop, of course, is repeating assumptions shared by almost all of his fellow bishops, as well as by virtually all non-Muslim authorities in the West. No amount of evidence has yet shown itself capable of dislodging these assumptions.

“Bishops unite against ‘demonic’ Islamists,” by Tess Livingstone, The Australian, August 22, 2014 (thanks to Kenneth):

CHURCH leaders have called on Australians to stop turning a blind eye to the butchery of Christians, as well as Muslims and other groups, by radicals from Islamic State.

The Catholic Bishop of Parramatta, Anthony Fisher, said church leaders had been reluctant to speak out for fear of adding fuel to fire. “But, as fellow Christians and fellow human beings, we cannot turn a blind eye to this persecution and religious cleansing,’’ Bishop Fisher said. “The situation has deteriorated extraordinarily quickly. This is almost a classic case where intervention of some kind, such as the American strikes on extremists is warranted to defend innocent lives.’’

The Catholic Archbishop of Brisbane, Mark Coleridge, said people should think about what social psychosis was driving some young Muslims to give their lives fighting “on the altar of the demonic’’ for the Islamic State. “The situation needs prayer, action and deep reflection,’’ he said. “The extremists’ barbarism seems apocalyptic. It has nothing to do with real Islam or God and is blasphemy of a kind.’’

Australia’s newly consecrated Anglican Primate, Philip Freier, praised the Abbott government’s “rapid response in providing aid to the displaced thousands in Iraq’’. Archbishop Freier said the persecution of Christians facing forced conversion or death “was in danger of becoming genocide”.

Bishop Fisher said that while focusing on the atrocities against the Yazidis on Mount Sinjar, Australians had seemed “largely indifferent’’ to the beheadings and hangings of Christians, including children, by Islamic extremists in Iraq and Syria. He called on Christians to launch a 21st-century “prayer crusade”.

After the declaration of the Islamic caliphate in late June, Christians were purged from the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, a Christian enclave for centuries. Jihadist marauders marked Christian homes with the letter “N’’ for Nasare, a symbol derived from the word Nazareth, the hometown of Jesus. The Christians were given the option to convert to Islam or die. Thousands of Australians have adopted the symbol on Facebook. Many have followed the atrocities in graphic detail on numerous unofficial Catholic websites, grieving over images of children and babies being shot and decapitated and adults bleeding to death.

Archbishop Freier said Anglican Overseas Aid had launched an appeal to provide relief for the 1.2 million Iraqis fleeing the extremists and 200,000 Syrians who had sought refuge in northern Iraq. “I ask Anglicans and others to give sacrificially,’’ he said.

“Aid agencies cannot cope with the influx and the suffering is immense.”

When Archbishop Freier recently called for Christians facing slaughter to be given asylum in Australia he was surprised by two letters in Melbourne newspaper The Age. These claimed he was setting “a dangerous precedent’’ in a secular nation by showing favour to one group. One writer said it was “not very Christian’’. “From our safety and relative isolation, Australians should show solidarity and be mindful of the suffering of many different groups, including Muslims who disagree with the extremists,’’ he said.

The president of the Uniting Church in Australia, Andrew Dutney, condemned “horrific acts of brutality, most recently and tragically against journalists who’ve bravely sought to ensure the world does not look away from those who are suffering’’. “Our concern is not just that Christian communities that trace their origins right back to the first century are at risk of disappearing altogether in the Middle East but that these are our sisters and brothers in the body of Christ,’’ he said.

US Catholics yesterday mourned journalist James Foley, whose decapitation was displayed in a grisly video on Wednesday. A graduate of the Catholic Marquette University in Milwaukee, Foley once explained to students how he said the Rosary while detained in Tripoli a few years ago.

“It was what my mother and grandmother would have prayed,’’ he said.

The administrator of the Catholic Archdiocese of Sydney, Peter Comensoli, said he was encouraged by Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono speaking out against the dangers of a caliphate in Southeast Asia. He has compared the Islamic State with the Third Reich and Khmer Rouge.

Sydney priest Paul Stenhouse was recently prevented from entering Syria because of violence. He said Westerners could intervene and provide aid but the conflict was between Islamic groups and would take many years to unfold.

7 thoughts on “Another ignorant clergyman babbles stupidly about Islam, of which he knows next to nothing…”

  1. So how is it that Dr. Mark Drurie a theologian can connect the dots but this educated fool can’t? Or is it he doesn’t want to because he has a nice and comfortable life?

    1. Because all he knows about islam is what his islamic ‘colleagues’ have told him. And he is too dense to read the islamic scriptures, to study the history of Islam or to even watch the daily orgies of beheadings. These people are dumb.

  2. Isis is Islam in its purest form. Muhammad was the perfect man to be emulated and a devout Muslims base their life and actions on precedents set out in their koran and hadiths. For the benefit of the clearly ill-read Archbishop – this is known as salafism. Although their means of terror are more contemporary, what we are witnessing today is a repeat of Islam’s glory days. It is obvious that these Muslim thugs have studied their religion a lot better than Coleridge because they are following their scriptural directives and imperatives out meticulously.

  3. Nothing to do with Real Islam?

    How do you explain this?

    The name of one group is Islamic State.

    Obviously THEY think what they do is Real Islam.

    How did THEY get that idea?

    Why are Muslims from all over the world going to Iraq and Syria to join them?

    The name of the another group is the Congregation of the People of the Sunnah for Dawah and Jihad.

    Obviously THEY too think their group and its deeds have to do with Real Islam, as Sunnah, Dawah and Jihad are all Islamic concepts.

    How did THEY get this idea?

    Why do people who misunderstand Islam all misunderstand it in exactly the same way?

    Any answers, Archbishop of Brisbane, Mark Coleridge?

    Anyway, what is Real Islam?

    Here are a couple of good books to read Archbishop

    Good summary here:

    Brigadier S.K. Malik, The Quranic Concept of Power

    Additionally its significance lies in its advocacy of terror as a weapon willed by Allah. Malik is very clear on this: the center of gravity is the soul of our infidel enemy. It is the enemy’s faith, and the best tool ordained by Allah to destroy our enemy’s soul is terror.

    So we have a serving General in the Pakistani Army telling us that 9/11 is the way to wage war. War today is not to be understood in terms of western strategic concepts such as Land Air battle. It is not Fire and Maneuver, or nuclear deterrence. It is 9/11. It is terror. According to Malik, striking terror in the soul of the enemy is the most effective divinely ordained weapon they have to use against their enemies. Destroying the faith of the enemy is the object of war, according to Malik, and Jihad is the tool.

    To illustrate his point, Malik described numerous battles that Mohammed engaged in, along with other conflicts in the history of Islam.

    and here is another good book-read the whole thing here.

    Suhas Majumdar

  4. The Catholic Archbishop of Brisbane, Mark Coleridge ….. yada yada yada

    Another Malevolent that needs to be sterilised prior to being expelled or “expelled”.

  5. Surely Sheik, they can’t be that dumb? Surely the politicians can’t be that dumb? I have been reading and talking about the threat of Islam for years, why have they put us in such danger? It has taken the beheading of a journalist by a British citizen for our Government to now try and do something about the danger THEY have put us in? $60 million dollars

  6. The ignorance of Christian clerics like this just supports the fact that they will be among those killed. They are actively participating in they’re own death. Idiots.

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