The Remarkable Ayad Jamal Al-Din Tells The Truth About Islam, Calling It The “Fiqh”

Hugh Fitzgerald

He’s a Shiite cleric and former Iraqi MP. He insists on telling as much of the truth about Islam as he can without beijng accused of apostasy (for all I know, by now he may well have given up Islam, but for many reasons, he chooses to present himself still as a Muslim, trying to save not Islam, but the Muslim peoples from Islam itself). He focusses on “fiqh” – his synecoche for Islam. And he makes clear the world-wide support for ISIS, from Muslims who from every country where there are large numbers of them clamor to join, and he mentions the “thousands” or “perhaps many more” mosques that actively encourage Believers to support ISIS. He repeatedly says that both the Sunni and the Shiite fiqh support the killing of the Yazidis; both the Sunni and the Shiite fiqh support violence. Only at one point, when the fearful moderator of the program, needing to make sure the program does not get out of hand by too much truth-telling, asks him if he believes Islam itself is a religion of “tolerance and peace” does Ayad Jamal Al-Din say, with deep insincerity, yes, he does, but for 1400 years, it is not the true Islam but the distorting and dangerous fiqh that has manipulated and directed Muslim minds.

This is one of the most instructive of the videos that MEMRI, that indispensable organization and website, has recorded, translated, disseminated. Would that many see it.

Former Iraqi MP Ayad Jamal Al-Din: A Civil State Is the Only Solution to Combat ISIS

In a recent TV interview, former Iraqi MP Ayad Jamal Al-Din called for the establishment of a civil state in Iraq based on man-made law and equality, rather than on Islamic jurisprudence, as the only way to combat ISIS. He further said that there were thousands of mosques in the U.S. and worldwide that incited and prepared people to join ISIS. “Islam has been politicized and is used as a sword,” he said in the Al-Iraqiya TV interview, which aired on October 17, 2014. MEMRI TV

Following are excerpts:

Ayad Jamal Al-Din: ISIS is just the tip of the iceberg. ISIS has support. It is one of many groups. ISIS is based upon a certain ideology, upon a certain interpretation of religion, and upon a certain fiqh [Islamic jurisprudence]. Unfortunately, what happened to the Yazidis and others in northern Iraq, is to be found in the fiqh of Shiites and Sunnis alike. Unless we are careful in the use of fiqh

In my opinion, the fiqh is more dangerous than nuclear technology. Therefore, we in Iraq are facing two choices: Either we establish a civil state, which relies on man-made law, based on equality between citizens, or else we establish a state based on fiqh and on religious law. If we establish a state based on fiqh, partitioning into a Shiite state, a Sunni state, and a Kurdish state is inevitable. Alternatively, we could establish a civil state, in which all citizens are equal in the eyes of the law.

As I have said, ISIS is a phenomenon with extensions all over the world, not only in Muslim countries. Even here in the U.S., there are many ISIS mosques. There are thousands of mosques that are preparing people to join ISIS. Imagine – young people from Florida join the ranks of ISIS to fight, and so do young people from Britain, Australian, Russia, China, and elsewhere. How could a young university student leave Florida to fight for ISIS, if not for a mosque that incited him to do so?

I am not talking about a handful of mosques or about just a few people. No. we are talking about thousands of such mosques, or even more, in all countries of the world – from South America to North America, Africa, Asia, and Europe. These mosques are calling, day in and day out, for the revival of the Caliphate. There are school curricula that glorify the Caliphate, saying that the past of the Muslims is better than their present. I believe that the opposite is true.

Who says that our past is better than our present? We live in the era of electricity, of the Internet, of satellite TV, of modern medicine, telecommunications, awareness… Even our understanding of religion is much better.


You cannot defeat ISIS through sectarianism. Only through patriotism. If the Shiites, Sunnis, Arabs, Kurds, Turkmens, Yazidis, Christians, and Sabeans cannot agree among themselves to unite under the banner of a single Iraq, ISIS will not be defeated. It is necessary to establish a national army and national unity, not merely in speeches, but in daily life. If we raise the [Shiite] banners of Hussein on the tanks, we will be inadvertently strengthening ISIS. They will say that this is a Safavid army, not an Iraqi one, and this will drive the Sunnis to rally around ISIS.


Both the Shiite and Sunni fiqh say that the Yazidis should be killed.

Interviewer: You are talking about the fiqh of ISIS, of course.

Ayad Jamal Al-Din: The Christians and the Jews are considered the People of the Book, and some include the Zoroastrians and the Sabeans, but as for the Buddhists, they should all be killed. This is according to both Shiite and Sunni fiqh. The problem lies with our fiqh, and therefore, I say that either we follow the fiqh, in which case ISIS is more or less right, or else we follow man-made, civil enlightened law, according to which the Yazidis are citizens just like Shiite and Sunni Muslims. That’s why ISIS are saying that they have not invented anything new, but are merely following the fiqh. The Yazidis can either become Muslims, or be sold on the market as slaves. Both Shiite and Sunni fiqh are in agreement on this.

We must make a decision whether to follow man-made civil law, legislated by the Iraqi parliament, or whether to follow the fatwas issued by Islamic jurisprudents. We must not embellish things, and say that Islam is a religion of compassion, peace, and rose water, and that everything is fine. Brother, your Islamic history is full of wars, raids… From Tunisia alone, one million boys were taken as slaves to Damascus…

Interviewer: Don’t you believe that Islam is a religion of compassion and peace?

Ayad Jamal Al-Din: It is, but there is an interpretation of Islam that goes back 1,400 years. Islam has been politicized and is used as a sword. “The Quran call and the sword protects” is the slogan of the Muslim Brotherhood, and of all the Islamic political parties.

6 thoughts on “The Remarkable Ayad Jamal Al-Din Tells The Truth About Islam, Calling It The “Fiqh””

  1. That is quite and amazing speech from one Muslim who has looked around him and at the world and sorted fact from fiction.
    I notice that the anchor was beginning to become uncomfortable with the whole interview, I feel he wanted to get back to familiar territory where Muslims and Sharia are superior, where Infidels must be beheaded wives can be beaten yazidies sold and raped, daughters honour killed by their fathers and brothers or married at nine.
    That way he can relax and get a proper nights sleep.

  2. Sheikh

    Isnt this similar to what President Sisi has said a couple of times.
    What this tells me, is that some in Islam who are still sane, are getting a little worried that the patience of the world for Islam is running out..

    And just by the by, Imam Daud al Cameroon, may even turn out to be right.

  3. Part 1
    From the above, and Pres Sis’s speech, I get the feeling that some Muslim leaders are getting a bit worried that the world is losing patience with Islam.

    So I let my mind run along.

    1. There may be a feeling in Muslim minds, that if Chrsitians are being exterminated in the ME, there may well be a public uprising in the West, demanding action.

    2. Note that Pope Francis has recently justified the use of force to save Christians in the ME. This, more or less, was the justification for the Crusades.

    3. The negotiation of Sykes -Picot agreement began in 1915, and signed in 1916. That is, 100 years ago, and its usefulness is questionable.

    4. The above agreement gave

    Britain was allocated control of areas roughly comprising the coastal strip between the sea and River Jordan, Jordan, southern Iraq, and a small area including the ports of Haifa and Acre, to allow access to the Mediterranean.[6] France was allocated control of south-eastern Turkey, northern Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.[6] Russia was to get Istanbul, the Turkish Straits and the Ottoman Armenian vilayets.[6] The controlling powers were left free to decide on state boundaries within these areas.[6] Further negotiation was expected to determine international administration pending consultations with Russia and other powers, including the Sharif of Mecca.[6]

    Note: Christians were given Lebanon, and Russia was given Constantinople. Constantinople is to the Orthodox church, what Rome is to Catholics.

    5. Its clear that the arrangement of 1915 is not suitable for anyone – Sunnis, Shiaas, and most certainly not for Christians, Kurds and Yazidis.

    6. To prevent a global tragedy that may well lead to a nuclear war, Western powers, Russia and China may well decide a new arrangement for the area. Clearly any actions of ours, must ensure that no power in the ME, except Israel, is allowed to acquire nuclear weapons.

  4. Part 2
    7. The new agreement will allocate land on the basis of religion/ethnicity. Sunnis this, Shias that, Kurds, Yazidis, sherrif Mecca there etc. Christians too will be given a nation (an amalgam of Syria and Lebanon), and probably allowed to join the EU and NATO.

    8.The Gulf of Aden, and the the Suez, will be declared international waterways. This is essential, as trade with the Far East is vital to the economy of the West and East. IF ISIS creates major instability in the area, we will be back to the Ottoman time, when trade between the West and East was closed.

    Note, that the main reason that Britain colonised large swathes of the ME, was not for gain (until oil was discovered), but to break open the trade route to the East, which Islam had blocked.

    From our point of view, a new “Sykes-Picot” agreement is good for all. It can be sold to the wider public that we are doing it for the good of all, particularly Muslims, as they seem intent to kill each other to the last Sunni or Shia.

    Now to any thoughtful Muslim, like Pres Sisi or the shia cleric, this is right back to the Crusades -unthinkable. Like any good Muslim, he has to think of a way to save Islam.

    The problem is Fiqh, which is correct. But Fiqh is Sharia, and without Sharia, Islam is nothing. So calling for the end of Fiqh, is in essence, calling for the end of Islam. Is that really the case?

    Unless I see proof positive that this is the case, then I reserve judgement that the above two are telling the truth. The two see that a new Crusades will destroy Islam completely, and to prevent this, they are proposing a secular state, with man-made laws. Can a Muslim really do this, and still be a Muslim?

    Therefore, I come to the conclusion that all this is Taqqiya. The authors are proposing an internal Hudna between Sunni and Shia, and a secular law, to forestall an overwhelming catastrophe – death of Islam.

  5. And by the by, I have been pointing out for a long time, that all Western leaders continue to insist since 9/11, that Islam is the RoP par excellence. No exceptions.

    Our leaders are not fools. They try to appear innocent and naive, as the voting public does not like a smart alec.

  6. What a brave man, to utter such words in an Islamic nation is like dousing oneself with blood and entering a den of hungry lions….

    But at the rate people’s opinions about Islam are changing thanks to ISIS, the Muslim world is slowly but surely imploding upon itself…

    All that is left to do now is to sack our Muslim nut-suckling politicians, flush out all the lapdogs of Islam from high places, and throw the mein Kampf-Koran into the dustbin of history….

    P.S : Could someone please cc the transcript of the interview of Ayad Jamal to the our leftist media, the Whitehouse, and most importantly to the POTUS Obama, who has sworn to defend Islam and Muslims from ” negative stereotyping “, even if exists in only his mind, and lying constantly to uphold this warped notion is becoming his second nature.

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