ALLAH IS NOT GOD: Malaysia restores ‘Allah’ ban for Christians

by sheikyermami on March 1, 2009

* The soldiers of Allah go proselytizing in the lands of the infidels by peddling that “three Abrahamic religions” kumbayah stuff. So far nobody has come out and told them that Al-Ilha, the pagan moon-god of the ancient desert Arabs, has nothing in common with the God Jews and Christians worship. 

Because when it comes to the crunch, on the other side of the fence, in countries where Koranimals have the upper hand, the dhimmies are not allowed to call God “Allah”- (that means for the remaining Christians in Malaysia and  other Muslim occupied territories their defense mechanism is past its use-by date…)

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — The Malaysian government will issue a new decree restoring a ban on Christian publications using the word “Allah” to refer to God, officials said Sunday.

Home Affairs Minister Syed Hamid Albar said a Feb. 16 decree that let Christian publications use the word as long as they specified the material was not for Muslims was a mistake, the national Bernama news agency reported.

The about-turn came after Islamic groups slammed the government and warned that even conditional use of the word by Christians would anger Muslims in the largely Islamic country. (Can’t have “angry Muslims- what to do, what to do..?)

A senior ministry official confirmed Syed Hamid’s comments, saying there were “interpretation mistakes” in the Feb. 16 decree that led to the confusion.

“‘Allah’ cannot be used for other religions except Islam because it might confuse Muslims. This is the ministry’s stand and it hasn’t changed,” the official, who declined to be named citing protocol, told The Associated Press. (we can’t have “confused Muslims”- there are so many misunderstanders already…)

The dispute has become symbolic of increasing religious tensions in Malaysia, where 60 percent of the 27 million people are Muslim Malays. A third of the population is ethnic Chinese and Indian, and many of them practice Christianity.

Malaysia’s minorities have often complained that their constitutional right to practice their religions freely has come under threat from the Malay Muslim-dominated government. They cite destruction of Hindu temples and conversion disputes as examples. The government denies any discrimination. (Google Muslim lies, deception…)

The Herald, the Roman Catholic Church’s main newspaper in the country, had filed a legal suit to challenge the government ban on the word.

The Herald argued that the Arabic word is a common reference for God that predates Islam and has been used for centuries as a translation in Malay.

Officials from the Herald could not immediately be reached for comment Sunday.

February 28, 2009

Malaysia: Chair of Islamic Dawah Foundation calls on gov’t to rescind permission for Catholic paper to use “Allah,” lest it anger Muslims worldwide

Why would the chair of the Islamic Dawah Foundation be upset about this? After all, Qur’an 29:46 says:

“And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our Allah and your Allah is One, and unto Him we surrender.”

However, that talking point is meant to be part of a one-way conversation — for dawah, or Islamic proselytizing. “Our Allah and your Allah” may be claimed to be the same “Allah,” but the message is ultimately: You’re worshiping our deity, but we’re doing it right, and you’re not. For that matter, the mention of that which has been “revealed unto us and unto you” is not a warm, fuzzy interfaith endorsement of the truth of non-Islamic scriptures, but an implication that the non-Muslims’ scriptures have been corrupted.

Obviously, then, under Islamic law, a Christian would be forbidden from preaching to Muslims in this way.

An update on this story. “Withdraw Permission To Use ‘Allah’ In Christian Publications,” fromBernama, February 28 (thanks to Marisol from JW):

KEPALA BATAS, Feb 28 (Bernama) — The Malaysian Islamic Da’wah Foundation (Yadim) today called on the government to withdraw the permission for the conditional use of the word “Allah” in Christian publications.Its chairman Datuk Mohd Nakhaie Ahmad said the government had not acted wisely in allowing the use of the word in Christian publications, which he said could anger Muslims not only in the country but also throughout the world.He said the government should have left the matter for the court to decide.”To me, it’s a mistake,” he told reporters after opening a halal carnival here Saturday.A government gazette dated Feb 16 has stated that documents and publications relating to Christianity containing the world “Allah” are prohibited unless the words “FOR CHRISTIANITY” are written on their front covers.The condition was contained under the Internal Security (Prohibition on Use of Specific Words on Document and Publication) Order 2009.Paragraph 2(1) of the order reads: The printing, publication, sale, issue, circulation and possession of any document and publication relating to Christianity containing the words “Allah”, “Kaabah, “Baitullah” and “solat” are prohibited unless on the front cover of the document and publication are written with the words “FOR CHRISTIANITY”.

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{ 7 comments }

R_not March 1, 2009 at 3:08 pm

“So far nobody has come out and told them that Al-Ilha, the pagan moon-god of the ancient desert Arabs, has nothing in common with the God Jews and Christians worship. ”

Well, I do it whenever I can on the blogs that I blog on. I have emailed the Pope (I doubt that he reads them – and yes, it might go to the ‘big bit bucket in heaven’, but at least I try. I try to tell him that by never rebutting that phrase, or studying islam and learning about deception, hudna, mohammed NOT being a prophet (about 10+ reasons), etc that it only emboldens the muslims to keep up their B.S.!

It misleads Catholics/Christians by not speaking up that islam is NOT part of Judaism and Christianity, and even creates appeasers/apologists which emboldens the muslims.

Some of the worst that I have to argue against are our own. These idiots usually never have an idea what the koran, and hadiths, say. They don’t have a clue as to mohammed’s life, islamic history of jihad, or anything about islam – but they are violent in their words to defend muslims/islam. They are disgusting.

Mullah Lodabullah March 1, 2009 at 5:53 pm

By the time God has finished with “allah” and his followers, it will be obvious to even the most
committed muslim that God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) is never to be confused with the
satanic sockpuppet allah, who has no son, and no power to save, only to deceive.

norlainie bint abdullah March 1, 2009 at 7:10 pm

Huh!!! If Jesus who has a (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) is truly the god of the mankind, is there a god who dies????? who suffers? The purpose of death in Islam is to prove that there is ALLAH and Jesus (peace be upon him) submitted himself to ALLAH as a prophet of ALLAH & as a muslim. Allah has no father nor son, he is forever supreme and unique in all aspects….

theresaj March 1, 2009 at 8:11 pm

Most of the people reading this newspaper in malay are native people on the island of Borneo, many of them in the state of Sarawak which is a very Christian area of Malaysia. A few years ago , the government attempted to ban a Bible in one of these native languages for the same reason. Yet people of ALL persuasions thru out the middle east have been using the term allah for god for centuries. Experts say that the problem is malaysians don’t really understand Arabic or the history of the word.
Malaysia likes to promote itself as a modern , islamic state but really all the hard work and enterprise there comes from its predominantly, non-muslim Chinese population.

el greco March 1, 2009 at 8:17 pm

Yes, there is a GOD who died. DIED….died ONCE. got it? He died once and for all, for all of mankind. He came to Earth and became human, just so he could die. His name is Jesus. Now stick that in your hooka and smoke it Norlainie. Keep your muslim crap to yourself. Check out a few of the blessed muslims who learned this fact…http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/watch.asp

John March 1, 2009 at 9:22 pm

norlainie,

Your ‘prophet’ is dead and buried in the ground, my Lord’s tomb is empty. Your god ‘Allah’ is just satan masquerading in islamic clothing.

Read your own koran, even it can’t get around the fact that Jesus is God the Son.

theresaj March 3, 2009 at 1:17 am

In malaysia , it is very difficult for a muslim to leave islam or become a Christian or etc…you have to go the sharia court..you may go to prison..
I was told that the reason the govt are so strict about this , is because they fear a mass exodus. They think that if they make it easy to leave islam, thousands upon thousands will become Christians…islam always rules thru fear..
Malaysia has a show like oprah , with Anita Sarawak on Tv. Muslim women cry their eyes out all afternoon , everyday on this programme…
An Iranian women told me that lots of muslims in Iran are PRETEND MUSLIMS…Most Iranians still believe in their ancient religion which pre-dates islam…they practice this privately…
Islamic leaders are bullies and thugs…oh and huge hypocrites.

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