Ahmadiyya Sect in Germany: ‘Eating Pork makes You Homosexual’
And they want to build 100 mosques:
In German. English translation added below, scroll down:
Ahmadiyya-Jugend: Schweinefleisch macht schwul
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In einem Jugendmagazin der Ahmadiyya-Gemeinde, die unter Protesten von Anwohnern in Heinersdorf eine Moschee bauen will, wird der Verdacht geäußert, dass es einen Zusammenhang zwischen Homosexualität und dem Verzehr von Schweinefleisch gibt.
Im Jugend-Journal der Jamaat, dem Jugendmagazin der Bildungsabteilung, Ausgabe 26, heißt es: “Der Mensch ist, was er isst. Auch lässt sich dieser Aphorismus beziehen auf die Auswirkungen von Schweinefleischverzehr auf das menschliche Moralverhalten, denn ein schamloses Tier wie das Schwein prägt oder unterstützt die Ausprägung gewisser Verhaltensweisen des Konsumenten (…) Unser geliebter vierter Khalifa, Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad (…) äußerte in dem Zusammenhang, dass er den zunehmenden Hang zur Homosexualität mit dem Schweinefleischverzehr in unserer Gesellschaft in Verbindung setzt.”
Der Lesben- und Schwulenverband kritisiert diese Äußerung. Sein Sprecher Alexander Zinn sagte: “Homosexualität wird in vielen Religionen als dekadent, krank oder sündhaft betrachtet. Gefährlich wird es, wenn religiöse Fanatiker das für Propaganda gegen Schwule und Lesben nutzen.”
Islamische Fundamentalisten, so Zinn, würden verstärkt gegen Homosexuelle hetzen. Das beginne bei der Gleichsetzung mit Schweinen und reiche sogar bis zu Mordaufrufen. “Gefährlich wird es, wenn Jugendliche mit solchen Weltbildern erzogen werden”, sagte Zinn.
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Translation thanks to WoJ reader AK (with corrections by Ed)
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In a youth magazine of the Ahmadiyya community, which wants to build a mosque under protests of adjacents resident in Heinersdorf, the suspicion is expressed that there is a connection between Homosexuallity and the consumption of Pork. In the youth journal of the Jamaat, the youth magazine of the education department, edition no. 26, it means: “Humans are, what they eat; Also this Aphorism can be referred to the effects of pig meat consumption to the human moral behavior, because a shameless animal like the pig coins/shapes or supports the development of certain behaviors of the consumer (…) Our loved fourth Khalifa, Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad (…) expressed in that context that he sees the increasing tendency to Homosexuality with pig meat consumption in our society and that there is a connection.”
The lesbian and gay association criticized this claim. Its speaker Alexander Tin said: “Homosexuality is cosnidered decadent in many religions or regarded ill or sinful. It becomes dangerous, if religious fanatics use for propaganda against gays and lesbians.” Islamic fundamentalists, says Tin, strengthened their aggression against homosexuals recently. That begins with equating Homosexuals with pigs and goes even up to murder calls. “It becomes dangerous, if young people are brought up with such conceptions of the world”, said Tin.
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April 12th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
Geeze I like pork and am not a homosexual….:)
I used on line language tools:
In a youth magazine of the Ahmadiyya municipality, which wants to build a mosque under protests of adjacents resident in Heinersdorf, the suspicion is expressed that there is a connection between Homosexualität and the consumption of Schweinefleisch. In the youth journal of the Jamaat, the youth magazine of the education department, expenditure 26, it means: “Humans are, which he eats. Also this Aphorismus can be referred to the effects of pig meat consumption to the human moral behavior, because a shameless animal like the pig coins/shapes or supports the development of certain behaviors of the consumer (…) Our loved fourth Khalifa, Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad (…) it expressed in the connection that he sets the increasing slope to the Homosexualität with the pig meat consumption in our society in connection.” The lesbian and gay association criticize this expression. Its speaker Alexander tin said: “Homosexualität is dekadent in many religions as, regarded ill or sündhaft. It becomes dangerous, if religious fanatics use for propaganda against gays and lesbians.” Islamic fundamentalists, thus tin, strengthened against homosexual ones to rush. That begins with equating with pigs and is enough even up to murder calls. “Dangerous becomes it, if young people with such conceptions of the world are educated”, said tin.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
Muslims often claims that during the Dark Ages it was Islam that kept science going. Well, this theory, like that of the world being flat, isn’t making that claim very valid.
By the way, I wonder what Johad Watch’s infamous poster Naseem thinks of this story? She’s of this sect
April 12th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Gee, I am starting to feel a little bloated and PMS’ie today… And, yup, come to think of it, it started about the time I had some pork sausages this morning…
Excellent post! I’ve linked it on my website.
Cheers,
Doctor Bulldog
April 12th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Well.. they are oushing throught this mosk-building sect over the objections of the local populace. There were pictures of the Amadis giving gifts toi the local German politicians. Something which is illegal under the Laws of the Republic.
The opponenets of the mosk were quickly branded racists and Nazis..
The media fully on the side of the mosk-builders.
This Amdiya sect is forbidden in Pak-land so they are looking for elsewhere to go.
So they’ve found Germany their soft target. I have no ieda where they get the money to buy the land and build all these mosks. I wish someone in government would ask these questions and look into it.
it is positively DISGUSTING!!!
April 12th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
Thanks, it makes more sense with your edit.
They will do anything to brainwash the young…
April 12th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Ahmadiyya-Gemeinde already looks like he ate a whole lot of pork! you can get any more gay looking with that ridiculaous headgear!
April 12th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
There surely must also be some food that causes paedophilia. Does hadith mention what was Mohammed’s favourite dish?
April 13th, 2007 at 1:51 am
That piggy looks just like Jimmy Carter.
April 14th, 2007 at 7:23 am
This may be another scientific theory given in the Quran. That’s why this Imam is talking about the issue. How funny these muslims are. What happened to their brains. Believe it or not, this is the mentality of all muslims and this is the reason why we call Islam the religion for barbarians.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
Well - If svine, pork whatever was guilty in mankind becomming hommosexuals - the vikings in northen Europe will not have had children - I have heard no such thing in historybooks - keep Your “Pocket”philosophy to your self - pork is an animal such as cheep and goats!
hurray for manipulated pictures
The Viking!
October 27th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Folks,
Although some of you have taken a great offense to the suggestion that Pork and the consumption of which can cause homosexual tendencies, I have yet to see any one of you provide any empirical evidence to denounce this claim.
A further and somewhat scientific explanation as to the claim of the magazine is based on behavioral patters from food consumption. Not in anyone specific but on a general body as a whole one can observe those who are on vegetarian diets to be more patient and calm in stressful situations. It can be argued, that perhaps it was the patient people who chose the vegetarian diet in the first place. I do not have any links to empirical evidence due to shortage of time, however I encourage all of you to research this if you really feel strongly about how great a lie that the Ahmadiyya Magazine is broadcasting.
Eating pork doesn’t necessarily induce immediate homosexuality. A sausage will never make you want to chase another person of the same sex down after the meal (unless perhaps you had this intention before the meal). In reality however, sexual orientation happens in people in a very subtle approach. Particularly, first through the onset of dreams, then random thoughts of sexuality that may creep into ones mind during weird times (meetings, conversations, readings, day-dreams etc). Eventually a person’s thoughts become strong enough that they ask the questions “what if i try it out”, one thing leads to another and before long, actions have taken place.
Although eating particular diets do not cause a person to act on those tendencies that are in the food immediately, a similar process takes place with any food which eventually leads into a behavior.
Similar is the case that those who eat meat develop the tendency to get angry quicker, and exhibit aggressive behavior over a vegetarian group in the same situation. Again thats agressive behavior and not just assertiveness.
With this line of thought, it is suggested that eating pork can cause tendencies in human beings in the long run, for some people not all, towards homosexuality due to increased homosexual thought patterns, although very subtle.
This post/reply was written in a rush and I encourage all of you to take the time to do the research on this topic. When I get the time I will do some more research and provide you all with links.
Peace be on All of you,
Ahsan
April 13th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
ok, c’mon ppl. Ahmadiyya is the most peaceful sect of Islam in the world and you continuosly make unfavourable comments against the Prophet Muhammad and Islam in general. u really have no shame
April 13th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
So the Ahmadiyya have a different Koran and don’t follow the teachings of a mass-murdering, serial rapist who married a 6 year old when he was 52?
Do the Ahmadiyya reject the shariah too?
May 3rd, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Ahsan Ashraf -
Nice theory, but homosexuals are BORN that way. Sexual identity is not determined by the food one eats, you fool.
May 15th, 2008 at 3:23 am
Ahmahis are perhaps the weakest and least religious people on earth. i will not call them muslims because they clearly are not. ahmadis are hated throughout d muslim world fore being blasphemous and causing a division. but i doubt you whites who are freaking out have anything to be afraid of! The vast majority (at least 95%) has a very libreal view on religion, and religious pracitse is to be done on 1 day in ramadan. You will notice they are very modern and westernized, they drink, eat pork, dress badly etc. I even know some with western names! and eventaully they are very easy 2 convert to christianity.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:40 am
I would just like to say that untill no one prooves it wrong it is a theory. Even the theories of big scientist have been wrong. Also. I think that it is more philosophical then physical. it has been a big problem in the people for a long time, they like to talk before understading what is logic. I know that eating porc is not healthy and it is the result of a science study.Porc meat is not good for the heart. So it is very possible that because of the shortage of time, the very person wasn’t able to explain it clearly. To finish, Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad was a great man and did a lot for the humanity. So it would be stupid to judge him for only one comment. Also, it would be wrong to judge islam or any other religion for only one comment because islamique teaching never said to kill a nonmuslim or a gay or a lesbian. The truth is that islam always prefered forgiveness and peace then bloodshed and killing.
May 16th, 2008 at 12:50 am
Ali first thing ahmadi’s are muslim because mohammad said it very clearly that all person that says ”Their is no other God but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger” is a muslim. So who are YOU! to judge if they are or not muslim.
Mohamed Shahid are atleast aware of what is islam and what have the muslims given to this world. And by the way, if i don’t forget weren’t the germans killed the juesh.
The roman persecuted the cristians. THe whits people have killed alll the red indians in America(continent). The muslims were the victims but some ignorant people like you, who doesn’t know how to do a research can NOT understand all this.
May 16th, 2008 at 2:57 am
not important:
“eating porc is not healthy and it is the result of a science study.” Please provide your ’scientific study.
Pleas let us know what Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad did for humanity.
“islamique teaching never said to kill a nonmuslim or a gay or a lesbian.”
There are 5 references in the Koran that call for the killing of homosexuals. Why do you post lies about it?
A mUslim and nothing much:
Please tell us about “what is islam and what have the muslims given to this world.”
On that occasion please tell us what happened to the Christians and the Jews of the ME and the 80 million Hindu’s and Buddhists of India who were wiped out under Islamic occupation.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
ok….whoever posted this article is even more of an idiot than the person who wrote it.
and for Ahsan Ashraf….wow….it’s very hard to argue with idiots as you cannot reason with them. Mr. Ashraf….you ask for people to bring evidence denouncing the claim, but you are ignorant to the fact that there is no way to prove that something does not exist. You can only provide evidence towards things that DO exist. It’s like me saying that in space there are pink elephants. How can you tell me that statment is untrue if there is no way to prove that I am wrong?
The existance of people who have homosexual tendencies and who do not eat pork should denounce your claim straight away, but if you people had enough brains, they would know that sexual preference has nothing to do with dietary consumption…..what fools.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Sheikyermani, you are disrespectful to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (May Peace and Blessings of God Be Upon Him). Your hatred comes from your state of ignorance. I pray that you wil be elevated out of this state soon.
As far as Ahmadis are concerned, they put many stupid claims out there and unfortunately these are believed blindly by their followers. They are good at covering things up and putting out false claims, like they have over 200 million followers. They convert poor unsuspecting people like those from poor countries, illiterates, those in desperate need of food and shelter. They tell them they are muslims and once these people are hooked, are they told that they must believe in a supposed “prophet” who cam after the Holy Prophet Muhammad (May Peace and Blessings of God Be Upon Him).
For those who want to know how they can build so many mosques…they collect a compulsory tax, called Chanda, from all their members. It is about 6% of every members income - no matter how much or little you earn. Even children are encouraged to pay from their pocket money. They even ask their members how much they earn so that they can keep track of the Chanda that person is supposed to give. Other members have been brainwashed into selling their homes and posessions to “further” their cause and that they were promised Paradise after this life. Ahmadiyya is clearly an example of a well run secret organization that feeds their members only harmless bits of information and keep the real juicy explosive stuff under lock and key.