Ahmadiyya Sect in Germany: ‘Eating Pork makes You Homosexual’

by sheikyermami on April 12, 2007

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And they want to build 100 mosques:

In German. English translation added below, scroll down:
Ahmadiyya-Jugend: Schweinefleisch macht schwul

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In einem Jugendmagazin der Ahmadiyya-Gemeinde, die unter Protesten von Anwohnern in Heinersdorf eine Moschee bauen will, wird der Verdacht geäußert, dass es einen Zusammenhang zwischen Homosexualität und dem Verzehr von Schweinefleisch gibt.

Im Jugend-Journal der Jamaat, dem Jugendmagazin der Bildungsabteilung, Ausgabe 26, heißt es: “Der Mensch ist, was er isst. Auch lässt sich dieser Aphorismus beziehen auf die Auswirkungen von Schweinefleischverzehr auf das menschliche Moralverhalten, denn ein schamloses Tier wie das Schwein prägt oder unterstützt die Ausprägung gewisser Verhaltensweisen des Konsumenten (…) Unser geliebter vierter Khalifa, Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad (…) äußerte in dem Zusammenhang, dass er den zunehmenden Hang zur Homosexualität mit dem Schweinefleischverzehr in unserer Gesellschaft in Verbindung setzt.”

Der Lesben- und Schwulenverband kritisiert diese Äußerung. Sein Sprecher Alexander Zinn sagte: “Homosexualität wird in vielen Religionen als dekadent, krank oder sündhaft betrachtet. Gefährlich wird es, wenn religiöse Fanatiker das für Propaganda gegen Schwule und Lesben nutzen.”

Islamische Fundamentalisten, so Zinn, würden verstärkt gegen Homosexuelle hetzen. Das beginne bei der Gleichsetzung mit Schweinen und reiche sogar bis zu Mordaufrufen. “Gefährlich wird es, wenn Jugendliche mit solchen Weltbildern erzogen werden”, sagte Zinn.

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Translation thanks to WoJ reader AK (with corrections by Ed)

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In a youth magazine of the Ahmadiyya community, which wants to build a mosque under protests of adjacents resident in Heinersdorf, the suspicion is expressed that there is a connection between Homosexuallity and the consumption of Pork. In the youth journal of the Jamaat, the youth magazine of the education department, edition no. 26, it means: “Humans are, what they eat; Also this Aphorism can be referred to the effects of pig meat consumption to the human moral behavior, because a shameless animal like the pig coins/shapes or supports the development of certain behaviors of the consumer (…) Our loved fourth Khalifa, Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad (…) expressed in that context that he sees the increasing tendency to Homosexuality with pig meat consumption in our society and that there is a connection.”

The lesbian and gay association criticized this claim. Its speaker Alexander Tin said: “Homosexuality is cosnidered decadent in many religions or regarded ill or sinful. It becomes dangerous, if religious fanatics use for propaganda against gays and lesbians.” Islamic fundamentalists, says Tin, strengthened their aggression against homosexuals recently. That begins with equating Homosexuals with pigs and goes even up to murder calls. “It becomes dangerous, if young people are brought up with such conceptions of the world”, said Tin.

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AK April 12, 2007 at 4:32 pm

Geeze I like pork and am not a homosexual….:)
I used on line language tools:

In a youth magazine of the Ahmadiyya municipality, which wants to build a mosque under protests of adjacents resident in Heinersdorf, the suspicion is expressed that there is a connection between Homosexualität and the consumption of Schweinefleisch. In the youth journal of the Jamaat, the youth magazine of the education department, expenditure 26, it means: “Humans are, which he eats. Also this Aphorismus can be referred to the effects of pig meat consumption to the human moral behavior, because a shameless animal like the pig coins/shapes or supports the development of certain behaviors of the consumer (…) Our loved fourth Khalifa, Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad (…) it expressed in the connection that he sets the increasing slope to the Homosexualität with the pig meat consumption in our society in connection.” The lesbian and gay association criticize this expression. Its speaker Alexander tin said: “Homosexualität is dekadent in many religions as, regarded ill or sündhaft. It becomes dangerous, if religious fanatics use for propaganda against gays and lesbians.” Islamic fundamentalists, thus tin, strengthened against homosexual ones to rush. That begins with equating with pigs and is enough even up to murder calls. “Dangerous becomes it, if young people with such conceptions of the world are educated”, said tin.

ISLAMSFORLOSERS April 12, 2007 at 4:59 pm

Muslims often claims that during the Dark Ages it was Islam that kept science going. Well, this theory, like that of the world being flat, isn’t making that claim very valid.

By the way, I wonder what Johad Watch’s infamous poster Naseem thinks of this story? She’s of this sect

Dr. Bulldog April 12, 2007 at 5:57 pm

Gee, I am starting to feel a little bloated and PMS’ie today… And, yup, come to think of it, it started about the time I had some pork sausages this morning…

Excellent post! I’ve linked it on my website.

Cheers,

Doctor Bulldog

allahfanculo April 12, 2007 at 6:16 pm

Well.. they are oushing throught this mosk-building sect over the objections of the local populace. There were pictures of the Amadis giving gifts toi the local German politicians. Something which is illegal under the Laws of the Republic.

The opponenets of the mosk were quickly branded racists and Nazis..

The media fully on the side of the mosk-builders.

This Amdiya sect is forbidden in Pak-land so they are looking for elsewhere to go.

So they’ve found Germany their soft target. I have no ieda where they get the money to buy the land and build all these mosks. I wish someone in government would ask these questions and look into it.

it is positively DISGUSTING!!!

AK April 12, 2007 at 7:40 pm

Thanks, it makes more sense with your edit.

They will do anything to brainwash the young…

ZenaWarriorPrincess April 12, 2007 at 7:48 pm

Ahmadiyya-Gemeinde already looks like he ate a whole lot of pork! you can get any more gay looking with that ridiculaous headgear!

Christian West April 12, 2007 at 10:18 pm

There surely must also be some food that causes paedophilia. Does hadith mention what was Mohammed’s favourite dish?

Carolyn2 April 13, 2007 at 1:51 am

That piggy looks just like Jimmy Carter.

Mohamed Shahid April 14, 2007 at 7:23 am

This may be another scientific theory given in the Quran. That’s why this Imam is talking about the issue. How funny these muslims are. What happened to their brains. Believe it or not, this is the mentality of all muslims and this is the reason why we call Islam the religion for barbarians.

JJJ April 25, 2007 at 9:57 pm

Well - If svine, pork whatever was guilty in mankind becomming hommosexuals - the vikings in northen Europe will not have had children - I have heard no such thing in historybooks - keep Your “Pocket”philosophy to your self - pork is an animal such as cheep and goats!

hurray for manipulated pictures

The Viking!

Ahsan Ashraf October 27, 2007 at 1:08 pm

Folks,

Although some of you have taken a great offense to the suggestion that Pork and the consumption of which can cause homosexual tendencies, I have yet to see any one of you provide any empirical evidence to denounce this claim.

A further and somewhat scientific explanation as to the claim of the magazine is based on behavioral patters from food consumption. Not in anyone specific but on a general body as a whole one can observe those who are on vegetarian diets to be more patient and calm in stressful situations. It can be argued, that perhaps it was the patient people who chose the vegetarian diet in the first place. I do not have any links to empirical evidence due to shortage of time, however I encourage all of you to research this if you really feel strongly about how great a lie that the Ahmadiyya Magazine is broadcasting.

Eating pork doesn’t necessarily induce immediate homosexuality. A sausage will never make you want to chase another person of the same sex down after the meal (unless perhaps you had this intention before the meal). In reality however, sexual orientation happens in people in a very subtle approach. Particularly, first through the onset of dreams, then random thoughts of sexuality that may creep into ones mind during weird times (meetings, conversations, readings, day-dreams etc). Eventually a person’s thoughts become strong enough that they ask the questions “what if i try it out”, one thing leads to another and before long, actions have taken place.

Although eating particular diets do not cause a person to act on those tendencies that are in the food immediately, a similar process takes place with any food which eventually leads into a behavior.

Similar is the case that those who eat meat develop the tendency to get angry quicker, and exhibit aggressive behavior over a vegetarian group in the same situation. Again thats agressive behavior and not just assertiveness.

With this line of thought, it is suggested that eating pork can cause tendencies in human beings in the long run, for some people not all, towards homosexuality due to increased homosexual thought patterns, although very subtle.

This post/reply was written in a rush and I encourage all of you to take the time to do the research on this topic. When I get the time I will do some more research and provide you all with links.

Peace be on All of you,

Ahsan

Adam April 13, 2008 at 9:54 pm

ok, c’mon ppl. Ahmadiyya is the most peaceful sect of Islam in the world and you continuosly make unfavourable comments against the Prophet Muhammad and Islam in general. u really have no shame

sheikyermami April 13, 2008 at 10:07 pm

So the Ahmadiyya have a different Koran and don’t follow the teachings of a mass-murdering, serial rapist who married a 6 year old when he was 52?

Do the Ahmadiyya reject the shariah too?

ImNoDhimmi May 3, 2008 at 2:55 pm

Ahsan Ashraf -

Nice theory, but homosexuals are BORN that way. Sexual identity is not determined by the food one eats, you fool.

Ali May 15, 2008 at 3:23 am

Ahmahis are perhaps the weakest and least religious people on earth. i will not call them muslims because they clearly are not. ahmadis are hated throughout d muslim world fore being blasphemous and causing a division. but i doubt you whites who are freaking out have anything to be afraid of! The vast majority (at least 95%) has a very libreal view on religion, and religious pracitse is to be done on 1 day in ramadan. You will notice they are very modern and westernized, they drink, eat pork, dress badly etc. I even know some with western names! and eventaully they are very easy 2 convert to christianity.

not important May 16, 2008 at 12:40 am

I would just like to say that untill no one prooves it wrong it is a theory. Even the theories of big scientist have been wrong. Also. I think that it is more philosophical then physical. it has been a big problem in the people for a long time, they like to talk before understading what is logic. I know that eating porc is not healthy and it is the result of a science study.Porc meat is not good for the heart. So it is very possible that because of the shortage of time, the very person wasn’t able to explain it clearly. To finish, Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad was a great man and did a lot for the humanity. So it would be stupid to judge him for only one comment. Also, it would be wrong to judge islam or any other religion for only one comment because islamique teaching never said to kill a nonmuslim or a gay or a lesbian. The truth is that islam always prefered forgiveness and peace then bloodshed and killing.

a muslim and nothing much May 16, 2008 at 12:50 am

Ali first thing ahmadi’s are muslim because mohammad said it very clearly that all person that says ”Their is no other God but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger” is a muslim. So who are YOU! to judge if they are or not muslim.
Mohamed Shahid are atleast aware of what is islam and what have the muslims given to this world. And by the way, if i don’t forget weren’t the germans killed the juesh.
The roman persecuted the cristians. THe whits people have killed alll the red indians in America(continent). The muslims were the victims but some ignorant people like you, who doesn’t know how to do a research can NOT understand all this.

sheikyermami May 16, 2008 at 2:57 am

not important:
“eating porc is not healthy and it is the result of a science study.” Please provide your ’scientific study.

Pleas let us know what Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad did for humanity.

“islamique teaching never said to kill a nonmuslim or a gay or a lesbian.”

There are 5 references in the Koran that call for the killing of homosexuals. Why do you post lies about it?

A mUslim and nothing much:

Please tell us about “what is islam and what have the muslims given to this world.”

On that occasion please tell us what happened to the Christians and the Jews of the ME and the 80 million Hindu’s and Buddhists of India who were wiped out under Islamic occupation.

Gideon July 25, 2008 at 2:50 pm

ok….whoever posted this article is even more of an idiot than the person who wrote it.

and for Ahsan Ashraf….wow….it’s very hard to argue with idiots as you cannot reason with them. Mr. Ashraf….you ask for people to bring evidence denouncing the claim, but you are ignorant to the fact that there is no way to prove that something does not exist. You can only provide evidence towards things that DO exist. It’s like me saying that in space there are pink elephants. How can you tell me that statment is untrue if there is no way to prove that I am wrong?

The existance of people who have homosexual tendencies and who do not eat pork should denounce your claim straight away, but if you people had enough brains, they would know that sexual preference has nothing to do with dietary consumption…..what fools.

truemuslim September 3, 2008 at 2:16 pm

Sheikyermani, you are disrespectful to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (May Peace and Blessings of God Be Upon Him). Your hatred comes from your state of ignorance. I pray that you wil be elevated out of this state soon.

As far as Ahmadis are concerned, they put many stupid claims out there and unfortunately these are believed blindly by their followers. They are good at covering things up and putting out false claims, like they have over 200 million followers. They convert poor unsuspecting people like those from poor countries, illiterates, those in desperate need of food and shelter. They tell them they are muslims and once these people are hooked, are they told that they must believe in a supposed “prophet” who cam after the Holy Prophet Muhammad (May Peace and Blessings of God Be Upon Him).

For those who want to know how they can build so many mosques…they collect a compulsory tax, called Chanda, from all their members. It is about 6% of every members income - no matter how much or little you earn. Even children are encouraged to pay from their pocket money. They even ask their members how much they earn so that they can keep track of the Chanda that person is supposed to give. Other members have been brainwashed into selling their homes and posessions to “further” their cause and that they were promised Paradise after this life. Ahmadiyya is clearly an example of a well run secret organization that feeds their members only harmless bits of information and keep the real juicy explosive stuff under lock and key.

Just my opinion January 20, 2009 at 9:45 am

Look, i have many different friends from different sects of the Muslim faith. We might believe different things but we certainly DO NOT have a different Quran. I might not be very religious but it hurts me to see that Muslims are going against other Muslims. Personally I don’t have anything against anyone of any faith. i respect everyone’s beliefs and opinions no matter what. We may have our differences but you are all forgetting one universal truth that none of us can escape. That truth is that we are ALL human FIRST. After that we choose faith and learn these things. There is no religion that encourages being a bad person or not having morals. You can all believe what you wish, but we are all creations of God. Just because someone may have a different belief than you doesn’t make it right for anyone to make fun of that or hate them. If you have an opinion it is good for it to be expressed, but in moderation. There is nothing wrong with saying what you feel, but it is wrong to attack another person’s religion. It doesn’t matter who you are or where you are from. Some people do not even believe in a God or a higher power. The fact of the matter is, nobody likes a slap to the face. I am not saying any of this as a religious follower or some sort of preacher. I am saying this as a human being. Search within yourself and ask yourself how you would feel if anyone were to ridicule your beliefs. Now without a bias or without thinking that everyone else is wrong and only you are right, imagine that the person you are talking to would feel just like you did. That’s called empathy. We need to grow as people first and get past these pathetic arguments about each other and start thinking about ways to better ourselves. A bad thing is a bad thing, it doesn’t matter how you read it. So calling someone a name is wrong no matter what context or what they did. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. I am sorry to say that i am absolutely disgusted by the behaviour that I have seen on this page. I am Muslim and just had to read someone write about our Prophet Mohammad. It goes without saying that I could get angry and write horrible things about everyone else here, but although this is what my heart tells me to do, God will decide your fates. You could be Christian, Hindu, Sikh, or Muslim; imagine standing in front of whatever God you believe in and asking him if it is right to speak such horrid words against a Prophet that someone else believes in. In this matter, ask yourself something, would God want us to kill someone who has done wrong, or try to understand why they have done what they have done and try to see reason behind it. To try to put yourself in another person’s shoes and feel what they feel. It was only after doing this that I was able to even bear the things that are written on this page. Once again this is coming from a person who is not even religious, and I must say that you people make me sick. Freedom of speech is a great thing to have on Earth, but you would have to qualify under the prerequisites of being a human first to be able to speak. It is sad to me that people like this are what actually cause fights to happen. Answer this, what does it matter to any of you what anyone standing beside you believes when at the end of the day you are being judged for only YOUR OWN deeds and thoughts. Apart from that, if any of you were hurt or in some kind of trouble and a stranger offered to help, none of you would ask first “Hang on, what faith are you from, I can’t accept your help if you are not the same as me.” There was another person who was like this, would you like to know his name? Adolf Hitler. You know what is sad, there are actually people out there who believe that he was right for what he did “cleaning the world” as he saw fit. Let me tell you something people, when we get cut we all bleed red. we all eat and breathe the same air. Here is a question for you people. If someone hurts someone else do they HAVE to go back and hurt them in revenge? NO they don’t. We just can’t handle our emotions and because of it we make up pathetic excuses so that we can justify our so-called mistakes. By the way, before you talk about things that you have no clue about just remember that you are clueless. The Chanda collected goes towards building Mosques and community events as well as being sent to third world countries so that they can have food. Oh and by the way, no child is told or encouraged to give any part of their pocket money to this cause. Also, nobody is brainwashed into doing anything and nobody is promised anything either. It doesn’t work like that. It isn’t like confessing to a priest where I can spend my day doing whatever I want and then go to a guy in a booth who can tell me that God forgives me for it if I repent. Here’s a question, if you knew that you could go to the priest and get your sins forgiven and you did them anyways, what does that say about you? Oh i suppose there is some amazing loophole in this that I just do not understand. You know what? There actually might be one, and I totally respect that in all its forms. However, only God can truly know what is forgiven and what is not. Speaking of converting poor innocent people, I seem to remember a certain crusade that did that along with destroying cities of the people who did not wish to do so. There is no MUST in any religion because one thing I am sure that all of us here can agree on is that nobody can force anyone to do or believe anything. It is a choice that we make ourselves. Oh and just a little hint for those who haven’t gotten it yet, we were ALL brainwashed unless we converted religions because we were born into our own. So no matter how much you might think that your religion is the best one and is the only right one to follow, there are billions of people all over the world that are thinking the same thing. By the way, you call Ahmadi people weak and non-religious? You claim that they are hated because they “caused” a division. Research your facts my friend if that is true then why is it that Ahmadi people are also ridiculed for being the newest sect. Oh wait that wouldn’t make sense would it? Since Sunni and Shia sects existed long before that. Uh oh, I think someone needs to read a book. As for the leader of the sect, imagine someone poking fun at one of your Prophets or Messiahs. What we believe does not necessarily make us right. We all have our own opinions. There was a time when you were stupid to believe that the world was round and could be punished for it. So if you people need science and facts to see what needs to be seen that I truly feel sorry for you all. I cannot say that I am any better, but before I choose to speak I consult morality first; something that we all have. Regardless of what you people may think about me I would like to say have a good day because if you have read or understood any of what I have written without clouding yourself with bias and anger, then you should understand that I don’t care what religion or race you are. It is wrong to commit blasphemy which would include the defacing of ANY religion. You all forget one thing we have in common, if all of this fighting for our faith is true. We all believe in God. Does it matter what we call him by, if it means we can all peacefully follow our own beliefs without hurting or bothering one another? Whoever this higher power or greater being is, I am sure He is watching us and I am quite sure that he loves us all. Think about it, God would not have created so many variations of people or have even allowed for this to happen if he did not have a reason. Now if God has a reason for people to be different then shouldn’t it be obvious that we should agree? Look people, just take care and try not to judge the book by its cover because there are probably a million people who say that about you. Learn to be a good person first, that is all any religion will ask of you anyways.

face coverings January 20, 2009 at 9:54 am

if Muslim women should not be allowed to wear face coverings because it offends other people, why don’t Christians take off their crosses, Hindu people stop with the mark on their head, Jewish people take of their caps, Sikhs lose their Kurpans, etc etc etc. Here is the problem, you people are all soooooo blinded by yourselves that you forget to actually LOOK at yourselves first before judging everyone else around you. Ignorance is only bliss if you don’t know what is going on. If you are aware of what you do and continue to ignore it then that’s just hypocricy and stupidity. Sorry to burst your bubbles people

kaw February 26, 2009 at 11:41 pm

Lets scotch this rubbish about muslim keeping science alive during the dark ages - they did nothing of the sort. Muslim made some minor contributions to optics, no significant additions to greek mathematics, some minor contributions to medicine but apart from that, THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING FOR OVER 500 years.

Ashan Ashraf - the majority of Germans eat pork, however the percent of males/females who are attracted to the same sex is approximately equivalent to those in populations where pork consumption is not common. However, in the muslim world where healthy sexual relations with members of the opposite sex are frowned upon or punished, the actual percentage of homosexuals is significantly higher. Actaully there is a sad video that exists and shows two male arab muslim youths raping a donkey in the desert - I dont call that normal - do you - and yet it seems to be a common occurence in the muslim middle east. Your argument is rubbish, and the excuse that you were in a hurry is no excuse. There is sufficient evidence, both from a sociological viewpoint, and from genetic studies (that is DNA studies Ashran not your single stranded RNA - which make you a rather dangerous virus) that a persons sexual orientation is determined by their genetic configuration at birth.

To face coverings - the problem is that muslims like you are so blinded by your self delusional world view that you are not capable of making any rational decision. There is not ONE day that passes without some poor person having been murdered by an muslim with the justification being some perverted logic that is generated by the world view you seem to understand. honestly tell us what you , as a muslim, have done to make the world a better place for ALL people. Until then, just keep quite.

To Just my Opinion - yes. lovely speech but the evidence is out that shows clearly that most of what you have written is not believed by your co-religionists. They are violent thugs. You claim that free speech should have its limits - then it is NO LONGER free speech! Who sets the limits and how far should they go - that is not free speech, You dont like what people are saying here - then perhaps you should hear what they are saying and open your eyes to what you and your kind are really doing to the place where we ALL live- By your actions on a day to day basis you are violent and murderous thugs - AND YOU ASK US TO TRUST YOU!!!! Perhaps you should try and hear what the rest of the world is saying about you and the muslim Umma. Personally I dont consider muslims human, but that is because I have seen muslims do some very horrible things and then blame others for their actions. And most of the people here understand your religion far better than you do - you are just a mindless slave to its will and your comment has little value.

To the muslim out there - the motivation that drives people to dislike you is provided by YOUR own actions and your unwillingness to accept the responsibility for the numerous outrages that are carried out in the name of YOUR religion. When you can behave like responsible adults, instead of like spoilt brainless thugs, we will start to accept you as people (your faith you can keep!!!). Until then, just go away.

So many muslims and ALL WITH NOTHING TO SAY!!!

kaw February 26, 2009 at 11:49 pm

Oh yes, the ranting Imans that I see in mosques do not preach for acceptance of other faiths or different cultures - they preach for subjugation of all that is different to Islam. That is why muslims are now the greatest threat to the development of our species - amusing that muslims function so very much as a virus does.

rico April 22, 2009 at 5:47 pm

heyy dont say anything bad about ahmaddiys ok

peace May 5, 2009 at 8:52 pm

Islam is a very peaceful religion

peace May 5, 2009 at 8:59 pm

gideon,

usually it is possible to disprove things, i.e. by caryying out some statistical tests or scientific experiments on controlloed people.
plus, sometimes it is not always possilbe to prove things, because of the lack of advancement in science, science hasn’t advanced enough to prove psychological links between swine eating and homosexuality - so be patient. These reasons are sometimes divinely given.

peace May 5, 2009 at 9:04 pm

kaw,

you should not judge islam by looking at the state of Muslims, you should rather look at religion itself, follow the link… Islam is a peaceful religion at its heart:
http://www.alislam.org/islam/islam-peaceful-religion.pdf

rico May 12, 2009 at 11:57 am

ahmaddiys are the best no one can change it

kaw May 12, 2009 at 12:16 pm

Peace,
I would beg to differ that Islam is a peaceful religion (there have been enough quotes from Quran etc given in this web blog to justify this point of view so I will not repeat) however I do agree that the majority of muslims are good people. I disagree very strongly with the behaviour of a significant muslim minority and it is these people to whom I address any comment. I simply use the term “muslim” to reinforce the point that I am not willing to make distinctions between “good” and “bad ” at this point in time and that I am willing to err on the side of safety. I would also make the comment that muslims themselves need to ask why a violent component of their faith has been allowed to basically hijack their religion. Part of the mechanism lies within how one is “allowed” to interpret the Quran and Hadiths, and only muslims can change this. However, little evidence of this is apparent and one grows tired of the continual refusal to accept that there is a problem within the muslim house.

NORMAN June 2, 2009 at 8:52 pm

THIS IS A RESPONSE TO EVERYONE WHO IS HATIN G ON THE AHMADIYYA MUSLIM COMMUNITY

In 1974 the government of pakistan declared the Ahmadiyya Sect of islam non - muslims because they believed the phrophet of the latter days, the promised messiah had come and died a natrual death and that the only way world peace , universal brotyherhood and salvation could be achieved was by accpeting this messiah. FINE SOME OF YOU ARE THINKING THE PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT DID RIGHT BY DECLARING THEM NON-MUSLIMS CAUSE THEY SOUND LIKE A LOAD OF WACKOAS SAYING THAT THE MESSIAH HAS COME.
However they also believe Jesus Christ did not die upon the cross however, when upon the cross being crucified a few of Christ’s followers came back to rescue him off the cross and indeed they did by treating and healing his wounds that is why over the course of time and history the bible has been altered they say jesus was resurected and seen in the dead of night however it is scientifically proven some crucifixions are carried out today toward south america near easter where people wnat to crucifiy them selves in the hope of coming nearer to GOD, anywya jesus is seen in the dead of night by his followers appeared to be ressurected so answer me thids Christ was a marked mam by the Jews and Romans who wnated him dead so if Christ had been seen during daylight they would have killed Christ went on to carry out his phrophecy of leading the “sheep” of Israel to the promised land it is believed that he travelled north towartds nowdays known as kashmir where he lived out his days and died at the age of a 120 years old . if you look at the ksin tone of kashmiri people they are not pure brown,black or white however a sort of creamy colour which has been done over time, if their ancesotry is traced trhen it will be proved some of their ansectors were israeli. In the 14th centuary it is believed that the religion of Islam was in Danger of being overtaken many muislims had lost their ways , at thspoint in time during the month of ramadhan one of the sayings of the holy phrophet of islam came true after a battle one of the companinons asked thge prphet “oh phrophet of islam messenger of allah what will happen to islam if you were to die today however you have not” ” the phrophet replied to solman farsi “after my death their shall be a khilafat ( leadership within islam) which is going to start after this khilafat ends when thier is to be a solar and lunar eclips ein the month of ramadhan and a person claims to be the ressurector of islam accept him as he shal lead you into a khilafat which shall last till the end of time he who fails to acknowledge that person shall feel the wrath of allah as the earth and bodies od men shall be his witness that he is the messiah” this hadith of the holy phrophet of islam is well recorded after the first khilafat of abu bakr, umar, uthman and ali in the 1890’s a man named Mirza Ghulam Ahmad resureccted islam as their was a solar and lunar eclipse recorded astronomically in the history books only that once and an earthquake and plauge which hit people who did not accept him, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad aslo claimed to be the MESSIAH AND PROMISED REFORMER OF THE AGE when this news hit the eastern continent their was chaos islam was on th ebrink of collapse and christianity nearly reached the whole world man people who had heard the story pass down in their families and some out of curiousty travveleled to qadian india to see if this man was who he said he was, one such person was Maulan Hakim Noordin Sahib a greta phsyician of the time who did not diffeentiate the ppoor or the rich but instead helkped both he was at the time the king of kahsmirs personal physician he travelled to see if the story which tarvelled down in his family that when the messiah comes he shall unite under one religion to be the chsen religiona nd that was islam. He travelled to india and saw with his own eyes the behaviour of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad to everyone was equal as was his love from the bottom of his heart to everyone from rich, poor, homelss equal he did not disrespect any religion but defended islam against everyone. Thier is also anothert hadith of the phrophet of islam which says “when the messiah comnes and reformemr of the age comes he shall be in one religion alone and if that relighion is islam then let it be known the 73 sects of islam will unnanimously votre out one other sect to be the infidels and devils and if that is so then let it be knonw that one sect of islam is the pure and rightous sect of islam the most honest as it is they who accepted the messiah and not the others.” AHmadiyya muslim community was voted by 72 sects of islam ti be the infidels as you know fromthis hadith that oine sect the ahmadiyya sect is the only sect of islam which have accepted the messiah, historicallt the same when people accepted Jesus Christ christianity had to endure 3centuries of torture form suppressors to become a huge relisgion the same is again happening for the ahmadiyya muslim community as they are being denied their own abasic human rights in pakistan being killed b y public and by government and also being blamed as devil worshippers but let me ask this why does this commuity desrve these heardaches same as christianity? It is only because they accept the promise messiah and reformer of the age and belive by accepting him and his khilafat like Phrophet Muhammad p.b.u.h said it is the key to world peace. THYE FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF ISLAM, READ TEH SAME QURAN AS EVERYONE ELSE .

AND AS THE QUESTION WHAT HAS THE LATE GREAT MIRZA TAHIR AHMAD DONE WELL LETS THINK NOW HE SET-UP A CHARITY CALLED HUMANITY FIST TO COMBAT POVERTY EVERYWHERE ESPECIALLY IN AFRICA , B UILT SCHOOL, HOSPITALS AND ROADS WATER WELL AND TYHE PRESENT EAD OF AHMADIYYA KHILAFAT OF ISLAM WAS THE 1ST PERSON IN A PART OF WEST AFRICA TO GROW AND NURTURE WHEAT AND CROPS AND FOOD- THE AHMADIYYA SECT AE THE GREATES MUSLIMS AND TRUE AND HONEST MUSLIMS ANYONE CAN MEET THEIR MESSAGE

LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE
IS A UNIVERSAL MESSAGE A SHORT MESSAGE WWHICH MEANS SO MUCH AND AS FOR WHERE THEY GET THE MONEY TO BUILD MOSQUES IS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE BLESSED COMMUNITY AND ALSO BECAUSE THIER MEMBERS OF THIER SECT HAVE WELL PAID JOBS AND ARE GOOD PEOPLE TO WORK WITH IT IS ONLY THE AHMADIYYA MUSLIM COMMUNITY WHICH HAS HELPED BUILT PAKISTAN AND TO BE ONES TOO BE KILLED THIER AS WELL

IN APRIL 23RD 1934 FOUNDER OF PAKISTAN MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH HELD A PRESS CONFERANCE IN AN AHMADIYYA MOSQUE IN LONDON .

ALSO DR SIR AL-HAAJ MUHAMMADZAFRULLAH KAHN REMAINS TILL THIS DAY A ONLY MUSLIMPRESIDENT OF THE UN AND EU COURET OF HUMAN RIGHTS OR JUSTICE.

FINALLY DR ABDUS SALAAM THE CELEBRATED PAKISTANI PHYSCHIAAN IS THE ONLY MUSLIM PAKISTANI TO HELP BRIGHTEN PAKISTAN BY ACHIEVING A NOBEL PRIZE AND BOTH OF THESE MENS WERE AHMADIYYA HOWEVER ARE BEING SPAT ON TODAY BY NON -AHMADIYYAS JU8S BECAUS EOF WHAT AHMADIYYAS BELIEVE AND NOT ANY MORE THANKS MR BLOODY ZULFIQAR ALI BHUTTO OF 1974 ARE NOT BEING RECGNISED DR ABDUS SALAAM HAD THE WORD MUSLIM REMOVED FROM HIS GREAVESTONE WHICH SENT SHOCH TO AHMADIYAAS AROUND THE WORLD AND SOME LIGHT HEARTEN NO-AHMADIYYAS.

IF YOU LOOK AT PAKISTAN TODAY THESE BOTH MEN WORKED HARD TO MAKE RPAKISTAN GERAT HOWEVER NO IT HAS BECOM EMORE CORURPT SINCE THE DAY AHMADIYYAS WERE DECLARED NON MUSLIM

MAY YOU ALL LEARN TO SEE AHMADIYYA PEOPLE AS THE TRUE HONEST SOULS WHICH THEY ARE GOD BLESS YOU AND GOODBYE FOR MOR EINFORMATION FO TO AHMADIYYA WEBSITE
http://www.alislam.org
NORMAN.A.M

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