Karen Armstrong attacks Robert Spencer

by sheikyermami on April 29, 2007

With thanks to LFG:

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Western apologists for Islam invariably resort to ad hominem attacks and obscure deceptions when they attempt to confront a knowledgeable critic like Robert Spencer; at Jihad Watch Spencer replies to a review by Karen Armstrong of his biography of Mohammed: Karen Armstrong reviews Spencer’s The Truth About Muhammad.

The conclusion of Spencer’s rebuttal contains a perfect example of the deception mentioned above. In her review, Armstrong says the Koran condemns “all warfare as an awesome evil.”

In the comments field below, Jihad Watch reader “Great Comet of 1577” has found the Qur’an verse to which Armstrong was referring. It’s Qur’an 2:217:

“They question thee (O Muhammad) with regard to warfare in the sacred month. Say: Warfare therein is a great (transgression) [or an ”awesome evil“], but to turn (men) from the way of Allah, and to disbelieve in Him and in the Inviolable Place of Worship, and to expel His people thence, is a greater with Allah; for persecution is worse than killing. And they will not cease from fighting against you till they have made you renegades from your religion, if they can. And whoso becometh a renegade and dieth in his disbelief: such are they whose works have fallen both in the world and the Hereafter. Such are rightful owners of the Fire: they will abide therein.”

Thus, contrary to Armstrong’s statement that this verse refers to “all warfare” as “an ‘awesome evil,’ in fact the verse refers only to warfare during the sacred month as evil at all, and then goes on to say that ”persecution is worse than killing.“

In context, this verse was revealed to justify a Muslim raid on a Quraysh caravan: the raid took place during a sacred month, during which war was forbidden. But the Quraysh were allegedly persecuting the Muslims, so this verse absolves the Muslims of guilt for the raid — since ”persecution is worse than killing.“

So in fact, the verse that Armstrong is using to argue that the Qur’an teaches that war is an ”awesome evil” actually teaches that moral precepts, such as the prohibition on fighting during the sacred month, may be set aside to benefit the Muslims.

Fjordman comments:

I wonder how much the Saudi’s are paying her. (it is a fact that Armstrong has received ‘grants’ from our ‘friends’- the Sowdi’s…)

BTW: Here is a rather different conclusion:

Islam is the most Warlike Religion

A Danish language researcher has spent over three years analyzing the original texts of ten different religions, and concludes that the Islamic texts stand out by encouraging terror and violence to a larger degree than other religions do. Four years after the terror attacks at the World Trade Center, Danish linguist Tina Magaard presents an analysis that questions Islam’s relationship with terror, violence and Holy War.

Islamic texts encourage terror and fighting to a far larger degree than the original texts of other religions, concludes Tina Magaard. She has a PhD in Textual Analysis and Intercultural Communication from the Sorbonne in Paris, and has spent three years on a research project comparing the original texts of ten religions. “The texts in Islam distinguish themselves from the texts of other religions by encouraging violence and aggression against people with other religious beliefs to a larger degree. There are also straightforward calls for terror. This has long been a taboo in the research into Islam, but it is a fact that we need to deal with,” says Tina Magaard.

Moreover, there are hundreds of calls in the Koran for fighting against people of other faiths. “If it is correct that many Muslims view the Koran as the literal words of God, which cannot be interpreted or rephrased, then we have a problem. It is indisputable that the texts encourage terror and violence. Consequently, it must be reasonable to ask Muslims themselves how they relate to the text, if they read it as it is,” says Tina Magaard.

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dave April 29, 2007 at 2:49 am

Karan Armstrong is a very useful idiot, and she is insane, I say the Mohammedans are giving her multiple millions, a useful idiot like that would be considered a very valuable assist to the Mohammedans, and well worth giving money to

Jimmy the Dhimmi April 29, 2007 at 3:44 am

“It is easy, therefore, to quote so selectively that the main thrust of the faith is distorted. But Spencer is not interested in balance. He picks out only those aspects of Islamic tradition that support his thesis.”
-Karen Armstrong.

I would respond to this by quoting the great Mark steyn: “it’s a good basic axiom that if you take a quart of ice-cream and a quart of dog feces and mix ‘em together the result will taste more like the latter than the former.”

I wonder if Ms. Armstrong is a supporter of Hamas because they build schools and clinics, as well as murder innocent Jews. Balance.

sheikyermami April 29, 2007 at 12:26 pm

Jimmy the Dhimmi;

Hamas doesn’t build schools, they build madrassahs.
As for clinics, they remain yet to be seen.

Yes, they murder innocent Jews.
No, there is no balance. Only Islam.

Mohamed Shahid April 29, 2007 at 3:00 pm

Ms.Armstrong has received funds from some Islamic countries or Imams. Why I said this is because the president of Maldives gave some funds to one Maldivian business man and asked him to find a European writer who could write a book about Qayyoom. The funded author wrote a book called ” A man for all atolls”, in which the author said” Mr.Qayyoom is a model for all small countries”. After one year she published the book we knew that Maumoon was the worst dictator in South Asia following a killing of four people in the jail. Now all International human rights orgnanisations know who Mr.Qayyoom is.

The same thing is happened to Ms.Armstrong, she received some funds from Saudi government and she just wrote a book for money.

sheikyermami May 11, 2011 at 11:21 am

“Armstrong says the Koran condemns “all warfare as an awesome evil.”

Sura, chapter and verse please.

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