NZ: Ex-slaughterman’s action threatens meat industry

by sheikyermami on December 8, 2008

Creeping Sharia: Halal butcher wants to see more blood!

Looks like blackmail, and  Ahmed might just about succeed in scaring the kuffars into submission. Halal slaughter stipulates an animal must be killed by one fast cut to the neck so the animal bleeds to death. It must face Mecca, and the slaughterman must evoke the name of God by saying “Bismallah Allahu Akbar”.  If its not done ‘correctly’ that means NZ could lose a great deal of its meat exports. What does it take to pacify a militant Muslim?

* Newsflash: Pakistan raids one terrorist camp to keep up appearances….

Press co.nz

“Not enough blood” `Troublemaker’: former halal slaughterman Ahmed Ghanem is critical of New Zealand killing practices.

A Muslim slaughterman’s attempts to discredit the New Zealand meat industry have drawn the attention of the country’s spy service.

Meat Industry Association members said they were contacted by the Security Intelligence Service (SIS) this week after Ahmed Ghanem, an Egyptian-born halal slaughterman now living in Christchurch, published articles on a British website decrying New Zealand slaughter methods as inhumane and contrary to Islamic practice.

Ghanem said he and other anti-stunning activists in the Muslim world had successfully sought a fatwa, or religious ruling, from senior clerics condemning the practice.

Meat industry figures in New Zealand have called Ghanem a “troublemaker”.

They fear his comments could affect the multimillion-dollar industry, particularly in the Gulf states, where New Zealand has extensive markets.

Meat Industry Association management support officer Michael Pran said Ghanem could provoke Muslim states such as Malaysia and Indonesia to send inspectors to review New Zealand methods.

“He could scare people and that could harm the industry,” he said. “The SIS are on his case. They are looking at it as well.”

The SIS could not be contacted for comment yesterday.

Its website lists “protecting New Zealand from threats to our international and economic wellbeing” as one of its tasks.

Ghanem’s essay, published online at unstunnedhalal.com said New Zealand methods, which involve stunning animals with electrodes before slaughter, violated Islamic codes.

Halal slaughter stipulates an animal must be killed by one fast cut to the neck so the animal bleeds to death.

It must face Mecca, and the slaughterman must evoke the name of God by saying “Bismallah Allahu Akbar”.

Ghanem told The Press that in his time as a slaughterman, animals often reached his knife already dead from the stunning procedure, which was akin to eating carrion and therefore non-halal.

Many of the animals would not bleed when cut and the rate of killing up to eight a minute did not allow sufficient time for religious observances.

“Where is the respect for the animal? You don’t have time,” he said.

When he took his concerns to his employers he was fired, he said.

Ghanem said he and other anti-stunning activists had sought a fatwa from influential Egyptian Muslim scholar and cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who ruled against the process.

Ghanem’s former employer, New Zealand Islamic Meat Management director Dr Mohammed Abdel-Al, said Ghanem’s comments could have a serious impact on New Zealand’s exports and needed to be discredited.

“If you’ve got a twisted branch, you’ve got to cut it,” he said.

Abdel-Al said stunning livestock before slaughter was a legal requirement in New Zeal-and.

Stunning made the animal docile and reduced danger to the slaughterman, Abdel-Al said.

He said Ghanem worked for his company briefly but was “let go” after becoming aggressive with his plant manager over his concerns.

An industry paper released to The Press said it was “conceivable that in rare instances animals could be harmed or even killed by electrical stunning”.

“In any such case, it would be the responsibility of the Muslim slaughterman to identify such an animal,” it said

* Has anybody considered deportation yet?

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Knight 99 December 8, 2008 at 3:23 am

Easy solution Ahmed ………….MOVE BACK TO EGYPT!

Mullah Lodabullah December 8, 2008 at 1:03 pm

* Easy solution Ahmed ………….MOVE BACK TO EGYPT!

Too easy. That would breach his “human rights”. NZ must roll over and accommodate him.

Appalled By The World December 8, 2008 at 4:09 pm

Where’s PETA? Or did the Saudis buy their silence?

Iloverealpigs December 9, 2008 at 7:41 pm

Just don’t under stand how these thugs are able to kill animals the halal way when the rest of us the the west must abide by strict guidelines. One rule for them and another for us. I guess they need lots of practise for the throat slitting of us kaffirs which they seem expert at.

Ahmed December 23, 2008 at 10:37 am

BEFORE YOU STAR TALKING WATCH THIS VIDEO THEN YOU WILL KNOW WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON AND WHAT IS HALAL AND ISLAM IS ????!!!

http://www.al-kanz.org/2008/10/14/abattoir-etourdissement/ <<VIDEO TO WATCH

YOU CAN SEE THE LIES OF THOSE CALLING THEM SELFS ANIMAL WELLFARE AND SEE HOW MUCH THE ANIMALS SUFFER !!??

1- THE ANIMALS GET TO WATCH EVERY ANIMAL BEFORE THEM IN ROW GETTING KILLED AND SEE ALL THE BLOOD OF THE ANIMALS ((((((WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SHARP THE KNIFE IN FRONT OF ANIMLS IN ISLAM)))

2-THE ANIMALS IS WATCHING THE DEAD ANIMALS ON THE CHAIN IN THE FRONT OF THEY EYES ((( IN ISALM WE SLAUGHTER THE ANIMALS AT A PLACE WHERE THERE IS NO OTHER ANIMAL SO THAT THE OTHER ANIMAL MAY NOT SEE THIS PAINFUL SIGHT))))

3-WHILE THE ANIMAL IS HAVING A HEART ATTACK WATCHING ALL THAT, THEY GET THE ELECTRIC SHOCK OR GUN TO MAKE THEM FELL MORE PAIN (IF NOT DEAD)FOR MORE FEW SECONDS AND ITS NOT JUST THAT

4- THEY START PROCESSING THE ANIMAL WHILE THE ANIMAL NOT DEAD YET((((IN ISLAM THE ANIMAL SHOULD BE LEFT FREE AFTER THE CUT SO THAT IT MAY FREELY TOSS ITS BODY IN THE PRCESS OF BLEEDING)))

THAT IS NOT ALL
THER IS MORE AND MORE
AND THEY CALL THAT ANIMAL WELLFARE AND THAT MEAT HALAL?????? IF YOU WANAA EAT THIS MEAT GO AHEAD BUT DO NOT FORCE US TO DO SO.

Ahmed December 23, 2008 at 10:43 am

SO DONT TELL ME EAST OR WEST
IM ASKING FOR REAL ANIMAL WELLFARE IN NEW ZEALAND OR EGYPT OR…ON THIS PLANET
NOTHING ELSE.

sheikyermami December 8, 2010 at 12:37 pm

New Zealand: Halal is cool, kosher out…..

Did New Zealand ban kosher slaughter fearing trade losses with Muslim nations?
Posted on December 8, 2010 by creeping sharia

The U.K. released the Lockerbie bomber fearing trade losses from Libya, now this. via NZ Kosher ban: trade interests? | Australian Food News.

The effective banning of kosher slaughter, known as shechita, in New Zealand, has taken a new turn, with the New Zealand Herald reporting that Agriculture Minister David Carter, the architect of the ban, broke the rules governing his portfolio by considering trade implications when making the original decision.

New Zealand newspaper, the Herald on Sunday, obtained a series of documents suggesting trade interests and a possible conflict of interest may have had a bearing on the decision, which were examined in a High Court judgement on whether or not to make the Minister available for cross-examination when the case comes to trial.

Carter owns shares in one of New Zealand’s largest meat processors, Silver Fern Farms, and the Herald reports that the email correspondence it obtained suggests that he met with Silver Fern chairman Eoin Garden and chief executive Keith Cooper in March.

In the meeting, according to an email from Ministerial private secretary Natalie Nesbitt, the two executives indicated that trade with Muslim countries might suffer if it emerged kosher meat was allowed to be produced in New Zealand, while restrictions were placed on halal slaughter.

The Herald quotes Nesbitt:

“Silverfern (sic) Farms CEO and chairman raised their opposition to an exemption being provided for shechita (kosher) slaughter … with the minister this afternoon, among other matters.”

She said concerns from Garden and Cooper included “trade risks (particularly to halal markets)” if a Jewish religious form of slaughter was allowed to continue in New Zealand.

The New Zealand Muslim community did not raise any objections to the new Code, having used a ‘pre-cut reversible stun’ for the production of its Halal meats.

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