Magdi Allam: all except one mosque surveyed preach hatred and jihad

by sheikyermami on January 11, 2009

Italy’s Imams call for Jihad: Models of Preaching Found in Six Italian Mosques

With one exception, they are sermons that incite to hatred. The end of Ramadan was marked by the legitimization of Islamic terrorism in Iraq and the whole world 

by Sandro Magister  www.chiesa                               


ROMA – Magdi Allam, an Egyptian who has lived in Italy for many years, is a specialist on the Arab and Muslim world. On November 30, he published an important survey in “Corriere della Sera,” the leading Italian daily, of which he is vice-director.

In the survey, he transcribes several passages of the sermons delivered by six imams of Italian mosques on November 21, the last Friday of the month of Ramadan, and on November 25, the feast of Id Al Fitr. The sermons given on these dates are the ones with the largest audiences; the halls are packed. Here is an anthology of them, city by city:

NAPLES

Amar Sahounane, from Algeria, is the imam of the mosque in the Piazza Larga al Mercato:

“Just as the Jews and Christians in the past had divine authorization for their warfare, so Muslims now have divine approval for the actions they believe opportune [i.e. the massacres in Nassiriya on November 12, and in Istanbul on November 15 and 20].

“The West is creating more victims than it did during both world wars combined. So the Muslim nation must react to defend itself.

“If there is no change in the West´s course of action, it and the Muslim countries that follow it will be struck by groups of Muslim brothers who, by now, are united beneath the standard of authoritative persons [like Osama bin Laden] well noted throughout the world and so effective at shaking up the West.”

FERMO

Abdellah Labdidi, the imam of the Er Rahma mosque in Fermo, in the province of Ascoli Piceno:

“The recent attacks in Riyadh cannot be attributed to the jihad, because the mujaheddin of Al Qaeda do not kill women and children. They are the work of the CIA [Central Intelligence Agency], carried out to increase the rancor toward Muslims in Western public opinion. The infidels forcibly distort the references to jihad that are found in the Koran and are part of its diffusion, in order to incriminate the imams and blame the Islamic communities.

“But the attacks against the British, American, and Italian invaders in Iraq and Afghanistan can be attributed to the defensive jihad, because they respect the dictates of the Koran.”

BOLOGNA

Said Mahdi Nasr, and Egyptian, the imam of the El Nur mosque of the Islamic Culture Center on Via Massarenti:

“Martyrdom [of those who fight and die with Mohammed during Ramadan] has been amply rewarded by the Prophet, because these people have died for a just cause, during a period that is sacred to us, and in paradise God has filled them with glory.”

PESARO

Ahmed Afilla, the imam of the Islamic Cultural Center of Pesaro and Urbino:

“Jihad is being exploited by the Western world to attack the Islamic religion. We condemn all forms of terrorism, including those that come from Western countries.

ANCONA

Nour Dachan, from Syria, the imam of the mosque of Ancona and president of UCOII, the Union of Islamic Communities and Organizations in Italy:

“We condemn terrorist attacks because they are part of a shameful strategy. But we ask for the immediate withdrawal of the Italian military contingent and the end of the military occupation of Iraq, which are part of America´s imperialistic logic.”

MILAN

Mahmoud Asfa, the imam of the House of Islamic Culture on Via Padova:

“The Muslim religion is a link in a chain that binds it to the other religions. Islam preaches respect for other civilizations and cultures. Islam desires peaceful coexistence with Christians and Jews. Islam is against the terrorism of Riyadh, Nassiriya, and Istanbul. The Italian soldiers [in Iraq] are messengers of peace. Islam respects churches and synagogues in the same way that we Muslims respect the mosques.”

[At this point, approximately thirty of the faithful got up and left the room].

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Apart from the last one, which is an exception, the sermons cited above legitimize Islamic terrorism in various ways, exalt the holy war and “martyrdom,” and attack the West and Israel.

Last June, similar cadences had echoed 
beneath the arches of the Great Mosque of Rome, funded by Saudi Arabia and other so-called “moderate” Arabic regimes. The speaker was an imam installed there by the Al Azhar university of Cairo, the most authoritative in the entire Muslim world.

On that occasion as well Magdi Allam recorded the preaching and published the most salient passages in another major Italian daily, “la Repubblica.” The president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, Michael Fitzgerald, when asked about it, minimized the fact: “In the end, these things were said in just one Italian mosque. And by exaggerating local conditions on runs the risk of compromising dialogue.”

He was wrong. It was not an isolated case. The imam of the Great Mosque of Rome, Abdel-Samie Mahmoud Ibrahim Moussa, from Egypt, was later removed at the request of the Italian government. And Fitzgerald was removed from the list of the new cardinals John Paul II was preparing to nominate.

Then the highest Vatican authorities began to reach the decision to respond to the Islamic threat, no longer only through dialogue, but through confrontation. This is the position adjustment that would appear concretely in October with the publication in “La Civiltà Cattolica” – which is maintained and authorized by the Holy See – of an unprecedentedly harsh article on Islam´s age-old offensive against the Christian West. 

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A link to the newspaper in which the survey by Magdi Allam was published on November 30, 2003, under the title “The sermons of hatred in certain mosques”:

> “Corriere della Sera”

The previous case of the July 6, 2003 sermon in the Great Mosque of Rome:

> In Rome´s Main Mosque, One Imam Is Calling for Jihad (11.6.2003)

An analysis of the official website which, from Mecca, shapes the preaching throughout the Muslim world against the West, Christians, and Jews:

> In Mecca on Friday, at Noon: To Listen to a Model of Preaching (25.11.2002)

The shocking article from “La Civiltà Cattolica” dated October 18, 2003:

> The Church and Islam. “La Civiltà Cattolica” Breaks the Ceasefire(21.10.2003)

The Vatican´s current stance on Iraq and the Islamic threat:

> Iraq: The Church Goes on a Mission of Peace (28.11.2003)

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Sandro Magister´s e-mail address is s.magister@espressoedit.it

English translation by Matthew Sherry: > traduttore@hotmail.com

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{ 7 comments }

fnord January 11, 2009 at 5:46 pm

Round’em up’n'kick’em out. The “moderate” one too, cause he serves as a fig leaf for the apologists and appeasers. Sickeningly those mollusks are in charge, working hard to abolish western civilization, so every instrument they can use to accomplish their aim has to be removed.

fnord

R_not January 11, 2009 at 8:14 pm

None of the links are working.

Realist January 11, 2009 at 8:42 pm

What are Mosques for the firing up of morons to go out and riot after Friday prayers and the dissemination of Terrorist literature and arms dumps. That’s what Mosques are for.

sheikyermami January 11, 2009 at 8:42 pm

Just checked, this one works but loads very slowly:

http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/6999?&eng=y

Go to the original site to check, seems to work,

Cheers!

DP111 January 11, 2009 at 9:04 pm

Moderate Muslims are not merely a fig leaf. They provide the general community in which the Jihadi can hide and work. The “moderate” Muslim also works in cahoots with the Jihadis by demanding Islamic preference, on the grounds that if they are not granted, “young” Muslim men will not be able to restrain their anger.

The moderate Muslim thus serves as a conduit for further Islamisation of the West.

In the event of a terrorist attack, the “moderate” Muslim also is the one who bleats that Muslims are being victimised, and in fact they are the true victims rather then the ones killed and injured. Thus the Jihadi and the “moderate” Muslim work in tandem.

Finally, “moderate” Muslims are the ones who pose the greatest threat to the West – demographic Jihad.

kaw January 11, 2009 at 9:28 pm

There is no place for Islam in the modern world. Follow the Dalek’s call.

Realist January 12, 2009 at 5:48 am

DP111 I think you mean ‘Slow Jihadists’ not moderates there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim . Did you ever hear anyone called a ‘moderate NAZI?

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