The Banu Qurayza Massacre

by sheikyermami on June 3, 2009

Thanks to Islam Watch

Massacre of Bani Quraiza: Muslim Ummah’s Happiest Day

The massacre of Bani Quraiza, and enjoyment of the great catch of “female booty” overnight was the first major occasion of celebration and festivity for the Muslim Ummah…


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The day of Bani Quaiza massacre was the happiest, the most festive, day for the Muslim umma in Medina.

Prophet had ordered the beheading of all Quraiza adult men (about 900), and the distribution of all their belongings, including their women and children:

Al-Tabari VIII:38:

“The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims.”

Quran mentions this incident briefly in two ayas [33.26-27]:

Many ye slew, and many ye made prisoners…And Allah gave you their lands, their houses, and their goods and women, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things.

All jubilant Muslims of Medina had gathered to watch the colorful beheading spectacle, and anticipated booty distribution. A trench was dug in the market-place. Several men were in charge of disrobing the Jewish male prisoners for checking the growth of pubic-hair. Those having pubic-hair were marked for beheading, and the rest were sent to the enslavement camp…Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4390:

* A Moslem view

Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

Their clothes were salvaged for booty. Prophet supervised the massacre logistics, while many sahabas, including Ali, Abu Bakr, Umar and Hamza, conducted the beheadings…The ceremonial beheading was inaugurated by the prophet himself by cutting the head of the Quraiza chief, Kab Bin Asad, with loud takbirs (i.e. Allah u Akbar) to commence the festivity. As blood gushed from the infidel’s throat, men and women shouted Allah u Akbar, and sang songs praising Allah and Mohammad…Here is a video of a modern-day young jihadis, following the sunna of the prophet and the other momins (believers), shouting Allah u Akbar, and singing Allah’s Hamd as the infidel blood is gushing out.The naked Jewish men were brought in batches to the edge of the trench, and their heads cut off and the bodies pushed into the trench. As each Jew was murdered, Muslim men and women danced with joy (as Palestinians danced on 9/11).After the massacre was completed, the booty was distributed, including the real estate, personal belongings, and the women and children.  First, the holy Prophet took his 20% prophetic cut. The crowning jewel of his share of booty was the gorgeous teenager Rehana. The remaining booty was distributed by a fair lottery system among the jihadis. Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 362:

Narrated Ibn Umar:
Prophet then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims…

“Sirat e Rasulullah” by Ibn Ishaq, p. 464:

After 800-900 male adults of Bani Quraiza were beheaded in batches, and thrown in trenches dug in Madina, the apostle divided their property, wives and children as booty… He took Rayhana d. Amr b. Khunafa for himself.

One woman requested that she be slaughtered as well, as she would rather die than be sex-slave to the murderers of his family and community. Another man Al Zabir was exempted from beheading by the Prophet on the request of Thabit, whose life was saved by Zabir in the past. However, Zabir preferred to be beheaded rather than live, while his loved ones were murdered in cold blood. That pissed off the Prophet, and he shouted: “Go join your friends in hell fire”, and ordered Thabit to cut the throat of his benefactor friend himself.

Our prophet retired early to enjoy lovely Rehana ASAP. Having raped overnight the shell-shocked teenager—who had witnessed her brothers, father and husband beheaded earlier in the day—he offered to marry her, if she converted to Islam. She turned down his offer, and refused to be a wife of the killer of his near and dear one, including her husband. Our prophet, a true admirer of beautiful women, retained her as a concubine in his harem, which she had no way to refuse.That was the happiest night for many bachelor momins, who were having a woman for the first time, thanks to their prophet. Many shared their booty with other bachelor friends, who could not get a woman themselves in the draw.Here is a video of a 12-year-old girl, who was raped by several Talibans in practicing the sunna of their beloved prophet. The difference is that the raped Quraiza 12-year-olds did not have their families to cry with them like this grieving Afghan girl.The next morning, our prophet noticed that many young jihadis had not showed up for the fajar prayers. Staying awake all night to have fun was not a good excuse for missing the compulsory salat. He ordered the huts of all those, who had not showed up for prayer, burned down while they slept in it after a fun night.

Bukhari V1:B11:N626:

“The Prophet said, “burn all those who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.’”

Never seen before were so many naked jihadis running out of burning huts with their beards and pubics on fire. Burning and killing bad Muslims is a very special sunna and is followed by good Muslims even today.Prophet’s one-fifth share of the Quraiza booty was one of his biggest loot. It included over a hundred women. He kept the best looking younger ones for his personal use, and also distributed some of them for the use of his friends and relatives.The History of Tabari, vol 8, pge 29-30:

From his share of captive women, prophet gave his son-in-law, Ali a slave girl, Raytah bt Hilal to enjoy her at his will. He also presented Uthman b. Affan, his son-in-law, another slave girl Zainab b. Hayan, and bestowed another girl (name unknown) to his father in-law Omar Ibn Khattab. Omar gave that girl to his son Abdullah. Most of Prophet’s other elite companions received slave girls as gifts.

The remainder were sent to Najd to be sold for purchasing arms and horses with the proceed [Tabari VIII:39]:

Then the Messenger of Allah sent Sa’d bin Zayd with some of the Qurayza captives to Najd, and in exchange for them he purchased horses and arms.

Update

Muhammad’s biographer Ibn Ishaq:

Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, ‘Will you never understand? Don’t you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!’ This went on until the apostle made an end of them.

The Muslim Spin:

The 800 Jews were Asking for it!

For months, Hindu or atheist writers of India Post were accusing the noble person of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) that he murdered 800 Jews because they refused to convert to Islam after the battle of the ‘Ditch’. This is a comprehensive response in defence of Prophet’s noble personality.

Ref.: Jai Somanath, “Islam lacks penitential spirit”, India Post, Dec. 18th 1998. The title of my rebuttal to Mr. Jai Somanath’s article may appear strange but as we dig deeper the deception in Mr. Jai article will begin to surface and the person of Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) would still be a shinning example to all of humanity. Mr. Jai refers to a hadith (saying or deed of Prophet Mohammad) found in the collection of Sahih Muslim #4370:

“Angel Gabriel pointed to Banu Quraiza (Jewish tribe). Messenger of Allah fought against them…they surrendered…those of whom who can fight were killed, their women and children taken prisoners, their properties distributed among Muslims”.

Mr. Jai deliberately left out the reasons why Angel Gabriel pointed to Banu Quraiza, why did the Prophet fought against them and why the Jews themselves choose the decision to die!

Now, since Mr. Jai used the book of Mr. William Muir (The Life of Mahomet), I’ll take him to task using his own source. For each incidence in history there is a context and here is one regarding the above mentioned incidence. In the city of Medinah, where Prophet Muhammad founded the Islamic State, there were three Jewish tribes.

As Sir Muir writes (p. 183):

“One of the objects nearest his (Muhammad’s) heart was a federal union with the Jews…He associated them with himself by a treaty of mutual obligation drawn up in writing, which bound the followers (Muslims) on one hand, and the Jews on the other hand, and confirmed the later among other things in the practice of their religion and the secure possession of their property”.

Thus the readers will appreciate Prophet’s tolerance towards other and his undertaking to build a peace treaty with the Jews and respecting their religion and property.

The peace treaty is worded thus: (pp. 183-4)

“whosoever is rebellious or seeketh to spread enmity and sedition, the hand of every man shall be against him, even if he be a son. No unbeliever shall grant protection to the people of Mecca (who were at war with the Muslims), either in person or property, nor interpose between the believers and them. The Jews shall contribute with the Muslims, while at war with a common enemy. The Jewish clans in alliance with the several tribes of Medina are one people with the Believers…if attacked each shall come to the assistance of the other. None shall join the men of Mecca or their allies”.

It is very important to remember that this peace treaty was fully accepted by the Jews (p. 184).

Now when the Meccan (pagan) enemies of Islam came forth with a force to attack Medinah, and annihilate Islam, the Banu Quraiza, the Jewish tribe in Medinah who agreed to abide by the peace treaty with the Muslims joined the enemies ranks and thus openly the treacherously broke the peace treaty.

Mr. Jai your own source testifies to this fact. (p. 308):

“Meanwhile, Abu Sufyan (chief of Meccan pagans) succeeded in detaching the Beni Koraiza, now the only remaining Jewish tribe, from their allegiance to Mohammad…It was agreed that the Beni Koreiza would assist Koreish (the meccan pagans)”.

The Prophet sent two of his deputies to reconcile with the Jews and remind them about the peace alliance. The Jews responded: “There is no bond or compact between us and him” (p. 309).

Thus they had committed breach of the treaty right at the most critical moment of the war, joined hands with the invaders and endangered the entire population of Madinah.

Thus after winning the battle against the Meccan pagans, the Prophet moved toward the Bani Quraiza tribe to justly reprove them (as per the treaty) for breaking the sacred agreed upon alliance. By his mercy, the Prophet asked the Jewish tribe as to who should be the judge to grant them the appropriate castigation. The Jews agreed that one of their own men, Sa’d ibn Mu’adh (a Jewish convert to Islam) to be their judge.

Thus Sa’d (and NOT the Prophet) questioned the Jewish tribe, (p. 317): “will ye, then bind yourselves by the covenant of God that whatsoever I shall decide, ye shall accept?” There was a murmur of assent. “Then” Proceeded Sa’d, “my judgement is that the men shall be put to death…”. Then the judgement was likewise implemented.

Now with this context to the incident one can clearly conclude that the Islamic state had a relationship of full tolerance and a comprehensive peace treaty with the Jews which all sides agreed to abide by. This treaty was broken by the Jews, who fought alongside the enemies of Islam, and were thus punished according to the judgement made by a man of their own liking and choice, whose judgement they promised to abide by. Thus the dirt spilled on the personality of the Prophet of Mercy is fully and successfully wiped off and now rest on the shoulders of Mr. Jai and his likes who are again crushed under their own source, this time Sir William Muir (William Muir, The Life of Mahomet, 1st. Indian ed. (Voice of India, 1992).

Now, the concocted lies about the prophet and Rehana mentioned in Mr. Jai’s letter is depleted of any references. Neither him nor his source, Sir William Muir, supplied any hadith to support this story, thus this is ranked as one more failed tactic to defame Islam.

Lastly Mr. Jai, your own source, Sir William Muir, concludes by praising the Prophet for his immense contribution to the world,

“We may freely concede that it (Islam) banished forever many of the darker elements of superstition for ages shrouding the (Arabian) Peninsula. Idolatry vanished before the battle-cry of Islam; the doctrine of the Unity and infinite Perfections of God, and a special all-pervading Providence, became a living principle in the hearts and lives of the followers of Mohammad, even as in his own…Nor are social virtues wanting. Brotherly love inculcated towards all within the circle of the faith; infanticide proscribed; orphans to be protected, and slaves (servants) treated with considerations; intoxicating drinks prohibited, so that Mohammadanism (Islam) may boast of a degree of temperance unknown to any other creed”. (The Life of Mahomet, p. 521).

And to this Islam, I welcome you all.

Sabeel Ahmed

22 December 1998.

A Dose of Reality:

Did Prophet Muhammad order Killing Surrendered Jews of Banu Quraiza and Khaybar?  A historical Analysis!

In the post 9/11 era of this modern-world, Islamists around the globe are busy with ‘damage control utopia’ in order to correct the image of religion Islam. We all know that the nucleus of Islam are: Quran, Hadiths (Sunnah) supported by Islamic histories and biographies recorded by various famous Islamic scholars and historians. Now, if we read Quran, hadiths and historical accounts (written by famous Muslim and non-Muslim historians) of Islam with our neutral mind-set, we can easily discover myriads of evidences which are the testament of the fact that unlike any other world’s organized religions, Islam was an Arab political and imperialistic ideology which was propagated by the sword. Read it all, from the excellent Islamist Monitor

Muhammad set a great example, which his followers tried to immitate to the best of their ability every time they conqured new lands and cities (pictured – Muslims taking Cesarea)

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kaw June 3, 2009 at 9:09 pm

muslims – explain why your prophet is not a mass-murderer and pedophile.

Sunny June 3, 2009 at 9:09 pm

No wonder that all terrorists are muslims. They follow their prophet.

Mac June 3, 2009 at 9:14 pm

Muslims are truly a strange breed. They follow a man who killed robbed and raped. And yet when cartoons are drawn of him as terrorist they go berserk and start rioting and killing.

Ces February 7, 2010 at 12:47 am

There were 30 religions in Medina before the arrival of the prophet Mohammed. There naive acceptance of diversity led them to now only having 1 religion in town. The mainstream media is so terrified of revealing the truth because of political correctness. To our own demise.

nolaughingmatter February 20, 2010 at 9:39 am

Do you suppose it’s too late to file a genocide complaint at the UN?

kaw February 20, 2010 at 11:41 am

Still waiting for an answer muslims!!!!!!

fatima March 13, 2010 at 4:55 pm

fact can not b hide by these rubish artiles,read the islamic history n the behaviour wid jews n christians in BAGHDAD n in CORDOVA.

Mullah Lodabullah March 13, 2010 at 5:00 pm

Air con still set at “muslim IQ” (room temperature).

nolaughingmatter March 13, 2010 at 5:32 pm

Monkey see no evil, monkey hear no evil, monkey speak no evil.

So fatima, in other words, this well documented incident by your own commentators never occured? It’s all in our heads and we are concocting lies and fabricating stories.

The problem is that we DO read history – all of it – and we read your books as well. This is how we know all these things. Hey, try it sometime. Read your OWN books.

Elmo March 13, 2010 at 7:30 pm

Fatima wrote [fact can not b hide by these rubish artiles,read the islamic history n the behaviour wid jews n christians in BAGHDAD n in CORDOVA.]
We do read islamic history in islamic books, how else could we know about this massacre. No jew , who can write, was left to tell the event.

about Cordova , it was the Spanish people, they were retaking their country from the occupying muslims. Christ himself did not participate in it, nor ordereded it, no christian saint or apostle, was involved , christian spanish soldiers commited atrocities most probably yes, no christian today defends any bad act done by any other christian. comming to Baghdad , it seems you have only one eye, the American soldiers are acting in the name of the US army and not in the name of Christianity or Judaism, by the way what about what the Sunni do to the Chi3a and vice versa.
Fattoum, you go back and read YOUR history, written by YOUR people and them come back to attack other religions.

nolaughingmatter March 14, 2010 at 6:23 am

Well said, Elmo!!!!

fatima March 16, 2010 at 7:13 pm

respected ppl,we do accept this event in islamic history but u must remember that who sugested death 4 the jews of quraiza?it was not the decision of ur OLD TESTMENT BIBLE in chapter ISTISNA that the prisnors shod b killed(go n read this chapter)it was not the decision of NABI (SAW),y the ppl of quraiza made prisnors?u must read about their death planings againt NABI(SAW),u ppl must b impartial while u r reading the history of any religion.

Umriz khan March 19, 2010 at 6:07 pm

Jazakumullah Fatima we Muslims appreciate your response to jews.
That’s the fact that banu qurayza broke agreement with NABI (SAW)
And they choose their own judge (SAAD BIN MAAZ) who made decision according their HOLY BOOK (TURATH).
They didn’t trust NABI(SAW).
Banu quraza were treated according to their own rule and regulation.

We are waiting for jews response about Fatima’s Answer.

fatima March 19, 2010 at 7:43 pm

jzk khair respected brother umris khan,this z exactly the fact what i wanted 2 explain 2 those ppl who are making objections on muslims.

theresaj March 19, 2010 at 8:39 pm

Jews are very intelligent , talented people…..in contrast muslims are morons who contribute nothing to society.

sheikyermami March 19, 2010 at 9:15 pm

Banu Qurayza – A Tribe Betrayed

Refuting a Muslim Propagandist’s Defense of Muhammad’s Brutality and Treachery

No Fatima, we “must not read about their death planings ” on your mass-murdering, deceitful profit pretender warlord Muhammad, who made treaties with Jewish tribes only to lull them into a sense of security and then turned around and attacked them, killed all the men and sold their women and children into slavery.

Muhammad was a very evil man and a serial rapist. Perhaps you should read your own scriptures with an open mind. Start today!

Why should the Jewish tribes of Yathrib be considered traitors for trying to protect themselves from Muhammad’s tyranny when all they wanted was to be left alone and not to be forced to believe in a false prophet who clearly contradicted their inspired Scriptures?

The judgement of Sa’d bin Muadh and the inconsistency of Muslim Apologists

According to the so-called sound ahadith a Muslim named Sa’d bin Muadh was appointed to determine the fate of the Banu Qurayza. He decided that the men should all be killed and the women and children taken captive. The reports all say that Muhammad praised Sa’d’s decision on the grounds that this was God’s own ruling, that Sa’d judged according to God’s own judgment:

Narrated Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri:
When the tribe of Bani Quraiza was ready to accept Sad’s judgment, Allah’s Apostle sent for Sad who was near to him. Sad came, riding a donkey and when he came near, Allah’s Apostle said (to the Ansar), “Stand up for your leader.” Then Sad came and sat beside Allah’s Apostle who said to him. “These people are ready to accept your judgment.” Sad said, “I give the judgment that their warriors should be killed and their children and women should be taken as prisoners.” The Prophet then remarked, “O Sad! You have judged amongst them with (or similar to) the judgment of the King Allah.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 280)

Another Islamic source says that Sa’d passed judgment in accord with the directives of the Torah, specifically Deuteronomy 20:

The Banu Qurayza committed high treason by breaking their oath of alliance with the Muslims and turning against them in time of war. When the battle against them was over, the Prophet, upon him peace, searched for an arbiter known and accepted to both sides who would rule concerning their penalty. The arbiter chosen was Sa`d ibn Mu`adh, who had been mortally wounded and died shortly afterwards. Sa`d said: “I will judge them according to the Law of Musa.” He was of the tribe of Aws, who were the allies of the Jewish Banu Qurayza, the men who were executed. They assented to whatever verdict he would give as a leader from Aws.

Ibn Kathir in al-Bidaya mentions that the number of the men executed after the 25-day siege were 400, and that another version says 700. Someone said that the decision was probably taken by Sa`d ibn Mu`adh in light of Deuteronomy 20:12-14 (Shaykh Gibril Fouad Haddad, Banu Qurayza Mosaic Penalty; source; underline emphasis ours)

This raises several questions.

more here

fatima March 20, 2010 at 2:49 pm

no need 2 go in detail but just understand one thing,saad bin maaz was choosen 4 dicision by the jews not by muslims,2ndly this dicision was according 2 ur holy book TORAT not according 2 QURAN ,in QURAAN v have 2 options n according 2 those options the prisnors should b treated,1.MAN(ihsaan (2 make them free),2.FIDIA(2 take money 4m them),so the ppl of quraza choose their death by themselves.be honest while writting about history.

sheikyermami March 20, 2010 at 5:39 pm

fatima:

“be honest while writting about history.”

There was no Koran when Muhammad killed the Banu Qurayza. Muhammad was making it up as he went along.

Did you not read the link with the explanations?

nolaughingmatter March 20, 2010 at 6:48 pm

READ??? What a revolting thought, Sheik!

“so the ppl of quraza choose their death by themselves” … in other words, they made him (the warlord) an offer he couldn’t refuse. Kind of like, mercy killing.

Can you imagine the evil that lurked beneath his hot turban as his lips uttered the go ahead with the murderous rampage? I shudder at the thought.

fatima March 21, 2010 at 9:10 am

of course,the ppl of quraza choose their death by themselves,if they ask 4 apology are request 4 dicision according to the HOLY QURAN so surely the situation wod b totally different 2day.it was the gr8 muslim who punished them according to their choice n rules but JEWS?????
just take one example;what they did with annocent DR MARWAH SHERBINI?it was custom,revltion r rules?wat Mr Alex did?I8 STABS WITH KNIFE………

Mullah Lodabullah March 21, 2010 at 10:29 am

“HOLY QURAN”

Blasphemy.

kaw March 21, 2010 at 12:10 pm

fatima,
You simply cannot convince any person that the people of Quraiza were not murdered by muslim bastards – and your arguments show very simply that you and your fellow religionists are as capable of/and as willing to murder innocent people now as then. Morons like you (and the idiot who posts under the name “the enemy” [who is being tracked down and will be dealt with in a suitable manner]) do not belong in a civilised world. Go somewhere else – and take your perverted prophpet mohammed the rapist with you – he and you were never wanted or needed.

sheikyermami March 21, 2010 at 12:25 pm

So Mr Alex was a Jew?

He must have killed in revenge for the Banu Qurayza then.

Now I got it!

And what’s the price of goat-meat in Pakistan?

fatima March 23, 2010 at 8:47 am

MR.KAW……by SIMPLY u mean what???
My riligion ISLAM teaches me that i must respect every riligion n every prophet while i m discussing about them ,i just wanted 2 highlight the fact,this z my aim by commenting on this article,being a muslim i want 2 b well.mannerd while i m talking about other prophets n riligions.
MR SHEIKYERMAMI …
this was the fact what i have explaind with the reference of TORAT,,now its up 2 u 2 accept r reject,its better 4 u all 2 have an impartial views while u r studing them,that s all.

theresaj March 23, 2010 at 9:11 am

ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION…It is the ultimate in barbarity..it is evil ….it is the greatest threat to life on this planet…All islamic countries are essentially failed states..No hope , no happiness , no prosperity..no love..only the deadly boredum of sharia law…The totally corrupt centre for all manner of trafficking , the glittering jewel of the Middle East , Dubai , is bankrupt….NOTHING GOOD EVER COMES OUT OF ISLAM.

sheikyermami March 23, 2010 at 1:49 pm

Today, Taiyyip Erdogan, PM of Turkey, proves that he is an expert in inverted reality and blames the Armenians for “genocide on the Turks.”

Won’t be long before the Germans blame da Jooozzz for genocide on Germans, any day now…..

Now I understand Karadicz much better….

Ron May 18, 2010 at 5:29 pm

Fatima

I am no expert of any religion, and the more I read about any religion, I wonder about any real good in any of them.

You said that the Jews were killed according to the judgement of one of their own, Sa’ad; based on their own law, the law of Moses. In the Christian gospels, I think that Jesus was in a similar kind of situation when approached by ‘the woman caught in adultery.’ Jesus asks the Pharisees what their law, the law of Moses recommends should be done with the woman. That same law suggests that she should be stoned to death, which they’d intended to do anyway. Jesus looks at the Pharisees as they are thinking to stone the woman to death and says, “let he amongst you who has not sinned cast the first stone.” None throw any stones. Jesus asks the woman if any of them have judged her. She tells him that none have, and so he tells her he will not judge her either, and to ‘go sin no more’.

Maybe I am seeing it out of context or something. But it seems that Jesus, of the ‘corrupted’ bible, dealt with matters in a different way to Muhammad.

Muhammad could have stopped the killing of these men, some only boys, and he did not. I can’t even begin to contemplate why a man, supposedly the ‘perfect man’ did not prevent this slaughter. You asked to be objective about this and I am trying to be so. I’d like to ’see’ that Muhammad was like Jesus in his dealings with others. In this instance however, being objective, I simply cannot think how Muhammad can be compared to Jesus at all. ??

Salam

sheikyermami May 18, 2010 at 9:08 pm

Ron, “Issa”, the muslim Jesus, is very different from the biblical Jesus.

You can google it, or type it into the search window of this blog. You’ll be surprised!

fatima May 19, 2010 at 10:46 am

wassalam,Respected Ron:if the ppl of quraza asked 4 apology or for Mercy so MUHAMMAD(SAW) surely stopped this,but as u know that they selected a man(RA) n choose their punishment by themselves so???????
read bible ,kitab istithna,chap 20,verses 10-16 so u will know that this punishment was according 2 their own Secrd Book.
when the ppl of UHOD n MAKKAH asked 4 Mercy of MUHAMMAD(SAW) so what was his behaviour with them????

kaw May 19, 2010 at 11:07 am

Learn to think Fatima, then come back here-

fatima May 20, 2010 at 11:55 am

Mr.RoN; one thing more i want 2 say that if smone has set his mind that he will not be convincd after getting complete realistic information about any issue related 2 religion,personality or society so he must avoid to take part in any disscussion because there is no benifit if sm1 have already discriminative behaviour towards any religion r prophet,2ndly alwaz keep in mind the laws n order situation of that time n area when u are studing the historical events ,i m sure that it wod be helpful 2 understnd the reality n fact+who is wrong n who is right?(let`s suppose pakistan n amerisa has treaty between them but suddenly pakistan breaks it so America will surely treat them according the existing LAW,if Nabi(saw) r sahaba killed their men n resevd their women 4 themselves so was it the opposition of ARAB LAW????,and remember that he did not kill their boys but their men.)
According to The HOLY QURAN ;All PROPHETS are brothers n i respect them so i dont want to say any bad word about any religion r prophet but i just want 2 highlight those facts about this event what i know exactly.

maria June 17, 2010 at 2:43 pm

I can’t believe that you keep on replying to Fatima, it gives me a headache trying to read what she is writing.
Typically a Muslima with whom you cannot discus Religion.
Only they have it right.
And the be-headings and chopping off hands, arms and/or legs is still going on. Following what their beloved Mohamed was and is so famous for.
Do we see the Jewish people committing these barbaric punishments.
No, they don’t they are civilized people, while Islam still lives in the stone ages.

fatima June 19, 2010 at 4:54 am

Ms.Maria:count all the Muslim states which are helpless today ;Iraq,Afghanistan,palatine,nagorno karabakh,abkhazia,Bosnia,Somalia and so on,who made them oppressed?and now the barbaric attack on FREEDOM FLOTILLA by JEWS………….??????
still JEWISH are CIVILIZED ???

Mullah Lodabullah June 19, 2010 at 5:55 am

If gods (allah), false prophets (Mo), and their followers choose to mock God, deny that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, mock the crucifixion, and curse the Jews and call them apes, then they have to be prepared for the consequences.

islam is doomed. Count the muslim states after Ezekiel 38 / 39, Psalm 83. Even if allah has had your fingers chopped off in its normal way, it won’t take many digits to count the remaining muslim states, if any.

Mullah Lodabullah June 19, 2010 at 6:05 am

Here you go, fatima.

You reap what you sow:

* Girl on Syrian TV: “Allah, turn Jews into apes and pigs!”

Damascus, supposedly the longest inhabited city, mocks & curses the Jews, and reaps the consequences:

Isaiah 17

1 The word about Damascus. See, they have made Damascus a town no longer; it has become a waste place.

2 Her towns are unpeopled for ever; there the flocks take their rest in peace, without fear.

3 The strong tower has gone from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus: the rest of Aram will come to destruction, and be made like the glory of the children of Israel, says the Lord of armies.

From the Holy Bible, fatima – the book that muslims claim has been tampered with, and superceded by the “holy” koran.

islam is doomed – get over it, and don’t whine about it. muslims are victims by choice.

riz ooz June 25, 2010 at 11:04 am

assalam sister fatima….
please dont waste ur precious time with them…they wont ever understand!!!!
will u be able to wake up someone who is pretending to sleep????
May Allah reward you and increase your knowlegde sister fatima!!!!
make dua that those pretending to sleep got the light in their heart and can see the truth and accept it!!!
take care dear sister….

fatima July 16, 2010 at 8:50 am

jazakALLAH khair

Rossco July 16, 2010 at 9:30 am

Riz & Fattima, may commonsence prevail and you start to understand the absolute EVIL that is islam…now sleep well, both of you…

BTW, we all understand islam better than either of you…

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