Barney Zwartz / Sydney Morning Herald
February 16, 2007
LIFE can become untenable when the Muslim population of a non-Muslim country reaches about 10 per cent, as shown by France, a Jewish expert on Islam says.
The Australian Jewish News yesterday quoted Raphael Israeli as saying Australia should cap Muslim immigration or risk being swamped by Indonesians.
Professor Israeli told the Herald that was a misunderstanding. But he said: “When the Muslim population gets to a critical mass you have problems. That is a general rule, so if it applies everywhere it applies in Australia.”
Professor Israeli, an expert on Islamic history from Hebrew University in Jerusalem, has been brought to Australia by the Shalom Institute of the University of NSW. The Australia-Israel Jewish Affairs Council is co-hosting many of his activities.
He said Muslim immigrants had a reputation for manipulating the values of Western countries, taking advantage of their hospitality and tolerance.
“Greeks or Italians or Jews don’t use violence. There is no Italian or Jewish Hilaly [a reference to the controversial cleric Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly of Lakemba mosque]. Why?”
Professor Israeli said that when the Muslim population increased, so did the risk of violence.
“Where there are large Muslim populations who are prepared to use violence you are in trouble. If there is only 1 or 2 per cent they don’t dare to do it – they don’t have the backing of big communities. They know they are drowned in the environment of non-Muslims and are better behaved.”
In Australia, Muslims account for about 1.5 per cent of the population.
Professor Israeli said that in France, which has the highest proportion of Muslims in Europe at about 10 per cent, it was already too late. There were regions even the police were scared to enter, and militant Muslims were changing the country’s political, economic and cultural fabric, and demanding anti-Semitic and anti-Israel policies.
“French people say they are strangers in their own country. This is a point of no return.
“If you are on a collision course, what can you do? You can’t put them all in prison, and anyway they are not all violent. You can’t send them all back. You are really in trouble. It’s irreversible.”
Professor Israeli said that in Australia a few imams had preached violence. “You should not let fundamentalist imams come here. Screen them 1000 times before they are admitted, and after they are admitted screen what they say in the mosque.”
He said some Muslims wanted to impose sharia (Islamic law) in their adopted countries, and when propaganda did not work they turned to intimidation.
Professor Israeli said his task was to describe, not prescribe. He also said his warning did not include immigrants, including Muslims, who simply wanted to improve their lot. As long as they respected the law and democracy, their numbers â€” Buddhist, Muslim or Jew â€” were immaterial. It became material when a group accepted violence.
“The trains in London and Madrid were not blown up by Christians or Buddhists but by Muslims, so it is them we have to beware,” he said.
Keysar Trad, of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, said “Not only religious clerics need to be screened before entering Ausralia but also academics … this type of academic does nothing but create hatred, suspicion and division … We should review not only what the man has said but also those who have sponsored him, to see if they endorse those comments.”
Robert Spencer from JW on Keyzar Trad:
“True to form, deals with none of the substance of what Israeli said, and offers no alternative vision…”
Sheik yer’mami sez:
Keyzar Trad is a long time supporter of the global jihad and a disciple of the grand master Bin Laden himself.
On what pretenses did he enter Australia? Like Hilali, the ‘catmeat’ sheik, he should have never been allowed to put his feet on the ground here.
His own history of spreading hatred is manifested in his own writing:
Keysar on Australians:-
“The criminal dregs of white society colonised this country, and now, they only take the select choice of other societies, and the descendants of these criminal dregs tell us that they are better than us. And because we are not elitists, we tolerate them…”
You see, they are 1.5 % of the population and they (still) ‘tolerate’ us…
I will post Hugh Fitzgerald’s take on this in the comments section!
6 thoughts on “Limit Muslim migration, Australia warned”
Raphael Israeli, author of, inter alia, the excellent “Islamikazi,” is stating only the obvious. Everywhere Muslim immigrants pose problems that no other immigrant population poses, and that is because theirs is not only an alien creed, but an alien and a hostile creed, a Total Belief System, offering a Complete Regulation of Life and (at no extra charge) A Complete Explanation of the Universe. The heart of Islam is not the Five Pillars of worship, but rather the worldview that uncompromisingly divides the world between Believer and Infidel, and further, between the actual territories controlled by Believers — the Dar al-Islam — and those as yet still controlled by Infidels — the Dar al-Harb. Between Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb exists a permanent state of war, though at any given time, Muslims may not be engaged (when they are too weak, for example, or other methods are more effective) in open combat (qitaal) with Infidels.
And if everywhere Muslims have gone in the Bilad al-kufr they have presented permanent and essentially unsolvable problems of “integration” — what most of them seek is not integration, but a slow or rapid assault on the legal and political institutions and social arrangements of Infidel nation-states and polities, so that they will eventually remove every barrier to the spread and dominance of Islam — “Islam is to dominate and is not to be dominated” said Muhammad — and of course to rule by Muslims, everywhere. That is the final aim of Islam. It cannot be denied, but it can, apparently, be wilfully ignored by a good many Infidels, who don’t like to consider reality.
And the threaat that Muslims pose that no other group of immigrants — Hindus from India, Buddhists from Vietnam, Rastafarians from Jamaica, Old Believers from the former Soviet Union — do, cannot be blamed on this or that group of Infidels. The problems that one sees in Australia are like the problems in France, or Italy, or Germany, or Great Britain, or Spain, or anywhere that large numbers of Muslims have been allowed to settle, in numbers sufficient to make them think they can be as aggressive as they wish, and they have been, and always will be, and can only be constrained through constant and firm pushing back, and expensive monitoring.
One more time:
“The large-scale presence of Muslims in the lands of the Infidels, but for now especially in Western Europe, has led to a situation, for the indigenous Infidels, that is everywhere more unpleasant, more expensive, and more physically dangerous, than would be the case without such a large-scale presence.”
Print that out. Read it over. Understand every phrase. Be prepared to present it, as a capstone to an argument or a discussion, with those you must, as fulfillment of a duty, enlighten about the nature, and menace, of Islam.
Posted by: Hugh at February 15, 2007 01:34 PM
Professor Israeli is quite right.
I am expecting a spike in anti-semitism over this, but someone had to say it.
Trad never disappoints: same old, same old.
The truth is so simple to behold. Yet politicians make it so damn hard to live by.
Irony at its best. If one comes from Europe or at least keeps an eye on the proceedings around the world one cannot help but agree with the Professor, but those who have not a clue or muslim themselves resort to calls of discrimination and the well worn out race card.
The proof is in the pudding, let us hope the good professor stays safe.
I love Jews. They are sneaky, controlling and mold western society by their standards. They are the true architects and manipulators of world affairs. So small in number but so very powerful. They have a hard job to do but they do it well and with little or no opposition. I wish I was born an Ashkenazi Jew. Shalom.
You must be buying your intelligence in the kebab shop.
Very original, your comment!
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