King Wanker does it again:
*Just in: In an effort to get a mosque approved against bitter resistance from Cairns citizens, the imam of Cairns, Abdul Aziz, can always count on his faithful vassal, the egregious Gavin King
from the Cairns Fish wrap, who once again dutifully shills for Islam, and rats, once again, on a local businessman he believes is ‘sheik yer’mami’– knowing full well that his denunciation will sooner or later result in the assassination of the businessman and possibly his family.
more later…
The brave imam Abdul Aziz is rather persistent in his efforts to get his mosque and will not take no for an answer. Help is on the way: A Dr. Mohammed Abdallah from Griffith University will do a da’awa presentation and tell Cairns citizens on Wednesday, the 25th of July, that Islam is a Religion of Peace and that all will be just swell if we only just submit, pray 5 times a day and whack a burka on our females. Men will wear kaftan’s and grow beards, homosexuals will be killed and adulterers stoned. Thieves will get their hands cut off and Jews and Christians will be allowed to live as dhimmi’s, after the soldiers of Allah made great slaughter in the land. (Qur’an 8:67 “It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land”) Dhimmi’s are subjected to Islamic law, which makes them ‘protected people’ who pay the jiziyah- except when they’re not protected.
Proposed Cairns Mosque
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Dr. Mohammed Abdallah just got Commonwealth funding worth $8 million for Queensland’s first National Centre of Excellence for Islamic Studies, which will be located at Griffith University. If anyone ever heard of an Islamic country giving 8 million dollar grants to built a Christian or Jewish study center please let us know, we are -literally- dying to report it.
‘Trust me’ – sez Dr. Abdallah
WEDNESDAY 25 JULY
UNDERSTANDING ISLAM – 3:30pm to 6pm
Public Forum – bookings essential contact 4044 3324
Venue: Cairns City Council Civic Reception, Spence St
Guest speaker Dr Mohamad Abdalla, director of the Griffith
University Centre for Islamic Studies speaks about the basic
teachings and beliefs of Islam with an emphasis on clarifying
issues such as Jihad and women in Islam.
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* We expect quite a few sheik yer’mami’s to turn up for the show and we hope there will be no ‘misunderstanders of Islam’ who start some kind of jihad.
But Dr. Mohammed Abdallah will surely tell everyone that jihad is ‘inner struggle’ and that it won’t hurt a bit. There is really nothing to worry about. Except when Muslims reach critical mass. Things change rather quickly sometimes…
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Other News:
* More: Mosque forced on citizens in the US
The St. Louis County Council should reverse its rejection in April of the Islamic Community Center’s plan to build a 25,000-square-foot center on Lemay Ferry Road near Mehlville High School.
The council rejection reflects “a climate of fear and irrational ignorance that is prevalent,” said state Sen. Jeff Smith, D-St. Louis.
* Sounds like typical ‘revert’-speak– don’t you think?
Rabbi Mark Shook said Muslims should be able to build their center “without interference from political authorities.”
* Rabbi Shook is obviously ignorant and totally oblivious to the fact that Islam allows him only to live as a dhimmi under islamic rule, who must be killed eventually.
“The Hour [Resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews, and kill them. And the Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, this is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!”
This hadith presents the killing of Jews as a religious obligation, not related to the conflict over borders, but as something inherent to Allah’s world.
Note also the defining of Jews as “the brothers of the monkeys and pigs” – Jews were cursed by Allah and turned into monkeys and pigs. This is consistent with the PA teaching that the Jew’s have inherent and unchanging character defects.
The Qur’an says this at Suras 2:62-65, 5:59-60, and 7:166.
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Religion of Peace kills German Hostages
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan — A purported Taliban spokesman said the hard-line militia killed two German hostages on Saturday because Germany didn’t announce a troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.
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Look what they do in the mosques in Italy…
“We have discovered and neutralised a real ‘terror school’
Carlo De Stefano
anti-terrorism police head
Italy police raid ‘terror school’
Police in central Italy say they have uncovered a bomb school for Islamist militants after raiding a mosque in Perugia and making three arrests.
Evidence of training in explosives and poisons, and instructions on flying a Boeing 747 were reportedly found.
Police said the suspected cell had links to a group associated with Osama Bin Laden’s al-Qaeda network.
They seized the imam and two other men, all Moroccans, and have a warrant for a fourth man believed to be abroad.
The three detainees refused to reply to questions when they were brought before a local magistrate. Twenty foreign students were also arrested in a related dawn raid and police said that those without residence permits would be deported.
Officers are reported to have spent two years investigating activities at the mosque.
Between daily prayers, the small mosque at Ponte Felcino doubled as a training camp, a police statement said.
The imam allegedly held courses, showed propaganda messages and made fiery sermons inciting a small group of disciples, some of them children, to join a Holy War.
The imam at the central mosque in Perugia, which has a 10,000-strong Muslim community, said the Ponte Felcino group had not appeared dangerous.
“Generally it’s a quiet community,” Abdel Qader told Italian news agency Ansa.
* Sure Adel, sure. Wouldn’t you also keep it quiet when you make bombs at your mosque?
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Islam: It’s The Ideology, Stupid!
The number of medicos involved in terror indicates that the Hippocratic Oath appears to be held in the same contempt as oaths of citizenship or, for that matter, any other. Of course, as emulators of their Prophet Muhammad’s example– an obligation incumbent on all Muslims– it’s little wonder that the dishonouring of one’s sworn oath is regarded so carelessly “By Allah, and Allah willing, if I take an oath and later find something else better than that. then I do what is better and expiate my oath” Sahih Bukhari 7:67:427.
True patriots and loyal citizens they can never be, as no sworn undertaking, irrespective of how solemn or binding, is capable of trumping a Muslim’s primary loyalty and overriding obligation to the “cause” of Islam. Nor is there anything novel in the involvement of medically trained jihadis in radical Islam.
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“The proof of the necessity of killing anyone who curses the Prophet or finds fault with him”
Mo is simply one of many false christs and false prophets who will arise and deceive many (1.x billion Muslims). Mo was deceived by “Allah”; one of Satan’s many sockpuppet gods.
Matthew 24:11: “And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”
Looks like the AFP may have a bit more on “Doctor Haneef” than just a SIM card – “Police sources said investigators were looking at documents referring to the destruction of structures discovered in the raid and information that Dr Haneef was allegedly one of a group of doctors who had been learning to fly in Queensland.”
( http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22112165-661,00.html )
And at a mosque in Perugia, Italy – peaceful ones at it again:
“Italian security services have arrested three Moroccan men suspected of planning alleged “terrorist attacks” and being linked to Al-Qaeda, police and media said Saturday. … Korchi El Moustapha, a 41-year-old imam at a mosque on the outskirts of the city, was arrested along with two associates, Mohamed El Jari, 47, and Driss Safika, 46.”
rawstory.com/news/afp/Italian_police_arrest_three_terror__07212007.html
Here in Missouri, we successfully blocked the construction of a mosque, but the little buggers keep searching and lobbying until someone gives in (or “up” as the case may be).
Here is the link to todays latest update on the St. Louis Bosnian Mosque that we thought we had gotten rid of:
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/4D05294D599825538625731F0012699C?OpenDocument
Cheers
Who pays King’s salary apart from the Cairns fish wrap? Is he getting some part of the $8million for services rendered? He is yet another media whore and quisling.
That’s a lot of money for a study centre. It’s a lot of money for anything. It would be better spent training locals in medicine!
I hope there are many people there who can ask some very tricky questions. Give Abdallah enough rope!
GF
I’ll be representing atheists when I go listen to Abdallah.
Would love some suggestions for some “hard questions” …
atheist:
How very characteristic of you!
First of all, you don’t represent an organization of atheists, for which you have a mandate to speak, so you are merely representing yourself. Second: You display mental lazyness that you should wish to have questions prepared for you, can’t you prepare yourself and use the available material?
If you read yourself through the ‘Islam’ link on this blog, you can learn an immense amount. also if you log on to Prophet of Doom here you should be able to prepare your own questions, heeps of them:
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Open_Letter_George_W_Bush.Islam
Mohammed Abdallah, what were the last words of the prophet of islam?
“I was ordered to fight all men until they say, ‘there is no god but allah.â€
mohammed (Plagued By Unconditional Hatred) the islamic prophet is nothing more than a crazed pedophile whose cruel curse tainted with bloodshed, and brainwashing still corrupts the pathetic and primitive…
Atheist,
Follow Sheik’s advice. It’s spot-on.
You always know everything. You don’t need suggestions from me, do you?
I’ll try to watch out for you when/if I make it there.
Any conspicuous sign I should look for?
A big red “A” tattooed on your forehead or something like that?
A placard saying “Member of the Richard Dawkins/ Christopher Hitchins Fan Club”?
A placard saying “I’m an atheist islamophobe”, or “I’m an atheist crusader” perhaps?
Now there’s a thought for you!
It is a bit off-topic for this thread, but for anyone looking for the WAPO / Newsweek “On Faith – Muslims Speak Out” discussion mentioned on other blogs, I found it here:
(http://) newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/projects/muslimsspeakout/
It has some “Dorothy Dixers” for the Muslims & their supporters, like
# What would you tell suicide bombers who invoke Islam to justify their actions?
# Is it permissible for a Muslim to convert to another faith?
(http://) the-gathering-storm.blogspot.com/
Ali Gomaa – Grand Mufti of Egypt – is faking away like mad about “The Meaning of Jihad in Islam”, Gender Equality in Islam, Freedom of Religion in Islam (etc)
The questions appear to be relevant for the Cairns “Understanding Islam” forum.
“Police in central Italy say they have uncovered a bomb school for Christianist militants after raiding a church in Perugia and making three arrests.”
“Police in central Italy say they have uncovered a bomb school for Buddist militant monks after raiding a temple in Perugia and making three arrests.”
Why do we never see headlines like that?? Check out the delusional lefties in the comments here..
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610180005
Use this when publicly addressing Dr Abdallah and his friends:
“Muhammad was the truth-telling, the all-knowing, the wise, and the One He sent, by the name of Baha’u’llah, is the True Mahdi, from God, to Whose commands we will all conform.”
Affirm that Muhammad sent Baha’u’llah, as the Glory of God ENDED the Islamic Cycle, and has no place for mullahs, imams or sheiks… Baha’u’llah affirms the Oneness of Humankind, the equality of men & women, the necessity for science AND religion, the independent investigation of truth…
All the things that Abdallah wants to crush, but cannot, IF WE LINK the Glory of God to Muhammad’s prophecies of Mahdi, publicly! Try it!
Thats Baha’i correct? By all accounts, just as vile as ‘real’ islam.
Because Christians believe that Jesus Christ suffered for the sins of others, they use this belief for their own purposes by “letting Christ suffer while they, the Christians, go on committing sin and crime.” That is why the Christians go on slaughtering the Non-Christians, totally worry-free and with a totally clean conscience, because Christ will take care of their sins and crimes, and because they don’t have to face the laws of Karma and Re-incarnation or the veritable consequences of these laws.
History is witness to the mass destruction of countless cultures, and the almost complete genocide of entire races at the hands of Christianity. History is now proving that most cultures destroyed by Christianity far outweighed in morals and dignity what they were replaced by.
WHAT SOME FAMOUR PEOPLE HAVE SAID ABOUT CHRISTIANITY
Ferdinand August Bebel (1840-1913), German socialist leader:
Christianity is the enemy of liberty and of civilization. It has kept mankind in chains.
William E. H. Lecky (1838-1903), Irish Historian:
There is no wild beast so ferocious as Christians who differ concerning their faith.
Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899), American politician and lecturer:
The inspiration of the Bible depends on the ignorance of the person who reads it.
With soap, baptism is a good thing.
Ministers say that they teach charity. That is natural. They live on hand-outs. All beggars teach that others should give.
The clergy know that I know that they know that they do not know.
H.G. Wells (1866-1946), British author:
The greatest evil in the world today is the Christian religion.
Mark Twain (American Writer, 1835-1910):
“The Bible is a mass of fables and traditions, mere mythology.”
“It ain’t the parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.”
“I am plenty safe enough in his hands; I am not in any danger from that kind of a Diety. The one that I want to keep out of the reach of, is the caricature of him which one finds in the Bible.”
MORE QUOTES
Benjamin Franklin (American Statesman, 1706-1790)
“Original sin was as ridiculous as imputed righteousness.”
“I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works … I mean real good works … not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing … or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity.”
Voltaire (French Philosopher, 1694-1778)
“If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.”
“Every sensible man, every honorable man, must hold the Christian sect in horror.”
“Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense.”
“Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world.”
CHRISTIANITY IS FLAWED AND RIDICULOUR, BRING IT DOWN ATHEISTS UNITE
HITLER WAS CHRISTIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hitler Himself justified the extermination of the Jews citing the Bible and Jesus:
“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice…. And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people…. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those (the Jews) by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited. “:
(Adolf Hitler, in his speech on 12 April 1922)
Note, “brood of vipers” appears in Matt. 3:7 & 12:34. John 2:15 depicts Jesus driving out the money changers (adders) from the temple. The word “adders” also appears in Psalms 140:3]
CHRISTIAN MISSIONARY ATROCITIES
Pope Innocent VIII’s infamous Witch Bull of 1484, launched several centuries of persecution of so-called witches. Several hundred thousand women, children and men (about 20%) were tortured and burned at the stake or hanged.
Two priests were sentenced to death in 1998 for their roles in this genocide and two Benedictine nuns who supplied gasoline for the burning of Tutsi civilians sheltered in their church fled to Belgium where they were later convicted of complicity to murder.
Extremist from all sides are on a very dangerous path. If they are Christian or Muslim extremists both can be pushed over the edge and do dreadfull things in the name of their religion.
But we mustn’t forget that most religious people at their core are well meaning and hold our society together. Look at our-
Retirement Villages.
Religious Schools
Hospitals
Arts, Maths and Sciences- Used to sponsored by the church look at what was lost with the looting after the Bush attracted Baghdad.
So lets be careful not to be like these religious extremist by venting our own self rightest hate we will be no better man or women.
duh_swami sez…yeah, whats’s your point?
Rabbi Shook has no excuse for ‘naively’ supporting a mosque: he has a B.A. in Anthropology & Near Eastern Studies.
I realize that doesn’t count for much, but he can’t claim he has no familiarity with Islamic history.
“Rabbi Mark Shook, senior rabbi at Temple Israel in St. Louis, will be the featured speaker at today’s Interfaith Council program, Carbondale in Harmony, at the First United Methodist Church at 3 p.m.. He is co-chair of Faith Beyond Walls in St. Louis, an interdenominational program that promotes harmony in St. Louis.”
Gets most of his news from NPR:
http://kwmuweb.streamguys.com/mysource/mshook.mp3
That’s Shook in the suit and tie, with his muzzie Comrades:
http://weekendamerica.publicradio.org/standard/display/slideshow.php?ftrv_id=57448&slide=3
Let me guess. Love’s queer marriage. Hates Bush. Anti-2nd Amendment. Will vote Obama…
“US Jews Rally Behind New Mosque”
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1183484325846&pagename=Zone-English-News/NWELayout
CAIRO — Jewish American Rick Isserman found it incumbent on him to support his Muslim friend Khalid Shah in his fight to build a mosque in their St. Louis County, Missouri.
Isserman, who used to organize with Shah monthly meetings for Jews and Muslims to read and discuss the Noble Qur’an and the Torah, defended the proposed location of the new mosque.
“That’s where the Bosnians are moving.”
South St. Louis County has a large Muslim minority estimated at 50,000, mostly Bosnians who moved from the city.
The Muslims’ battle for the right to build the mosque in the county has reminded Isserman of what happened with his Rabbi grandfather nearly five decades ago.
“I’m fighting the same battle as my grandfather 50 years ago,” he said.
“It’s a different community and a different place, but it’s the same issue.”
Rabbi Ferdinand Isserman was denied a request to move a temple to an area heavily populated by Jews in the same county 48 years ago over zoning problems.
But he did not give up and fought hard until he prevailed in court, which delivered a landmark ruling that later became a legal reference to similar freedom-of-religion cases.
Isserman started mobilizing Jewish support for the construction of mosque, enlisting the help of incumbent Temple Israel’s Rabbi Mark Shook and the president of Jewish community in the area David Weinstein.
Muslim leaders in South St. Louis County were moved by the Jewish token.
“They kept asking what they could do to help,” said Imam Muhamed Hasic, the president of the Islamic Community Center, also called Madina Masjid.
“They wrote letters, they met with the council, they said we needed to stick together.”
Almost a dozen of Christian conservative homeowners adjacent to the disputed land welcomed a new Muslim neighbor.
“It wouldn’t bother me,” said Mamie King, who had a statue of the Virgin Mary in her front yard.
Grace Green, a Pentecostal, said she would like to know more about the new neighbor, “but you have to love your neighbors.”