"Killing Women and Children is un-Islamic…"

Muhammad, Killer of Women & Children:

* Qur’an 8:17, “It is not you who slew them; it was Allah who killed them…”

* Tabari 9:69  “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us”  The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

* Muslim (19:4321-4323) – Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers.  His response: “They are of them (meaning the enemy).”

  • You see, Allah is oft forgiving and merciful… there is no blame…

The German Nurses Murdered in Yemen

Just in thanks to kaw/Armies of Liberation


                                                            Rest in Peace…

SK: Undated picture released by the Immanuelgemeinde church parish and authorized by the families shows German nurses Rita Stumpp, left, and Anita Gruenwald, who were found murdered in Yemen.

News Yemen: The daily al-Shomoa newspaper on Tuesday quoted a source the Yemeni Intelligence Services as expecting to find the kidnappers and hostages within 24 hours.

Dualism in Islam:

Narrated ‘Abdullah:

During some of the Ghazawat of the Prophet a woman was found killed. Allah’s Apostle disapproved the killing of women and children. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 257)

HOWEVER, there are certain other narrations that permit the killing of women and children, specifically during Muslim raids where they attack unsuspecting victims at night:

Narrated As-Sab bin Jaththama:

The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).” I also heard the Prophet saying, “The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle.” (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256)

I.e., they are all the same—both the women and children are nothing more than pagans!

The above narration is repeated in several, different hadith collections, here…

*  As you can clearly see, killing children and women is permissible in Islam.

17 thoughts on “"Killing Women and Children is un-Islamic…"”

  1. Off -topic a little but …………….
    Did you see the Mail or Guardian today ?
    To avoid being thought biased , anti -terrorist police have been using their anti-terrorist powers to search a lot of whites – in fact about 70,000 whites as opposed to 20,00 asians

    1. Persikas sez:

      anti -terrorist police have been using their anti-terrorist powers to search a lot of whites – in fact about 70,000 whites as opposed to 20,00 asians

      Where’s the link?

  2. Strange how the murders in Yemen only warrant small mentions in the
    MSM, the muslim with her red dress had more coverage in the UK!

  3. Muslims carry on like evil children as usual, was Mohammad the original Lord of the Flies. The maggots of this world seem to carry out his wishes on a regular basis. Islam is only equipped for malignant acts, but NEVER EVER the pursuit of EXCELLENCE. Read it and rejoice you warped unmanly underdogs.

  4. ‘persiks’ this is not the only insanity in the UK the whole government of the country is insane . How about the story that the NHS has issued a directive that Gypsies and Travelers MUST go to the front of the queue at Doctors surgeries. It is no wonder that in such a demented place as UK a HYPOCRITICAL gold digging Mohammedan woman who has no problem showing her t*ts on Facebook is allowed to win a payout for being asked to wear a perfectly respectable red dress at work. Of course any nation with such perverted twisted values as this will ignore the barbarity of Mohammedan Terrorist SCUM killing men women and children in the Yemen . This sort of scum are welcome immigrants in to UK they always vote Labour after all.

  5. The European ‘Yuman Rites Act’ is an obscenity and is only invoked to give unreasonable benefits to undeserving minorities and criminals. This and the absurd reverse racism of positive discrimination and moral equivalence much used in the USA and which has dumbed down most American instututions will eventually cause a revolution as the oppressed majorities finally wake up to the fact that they are being punished and discriminated against just for being what they are while at the same time being used as cash cows to fund these left wing PC morons destruction of society that supports their outrages .

  6. sheikyermami

    where’s the link ?
    I read it in the Mail and the Guardian .
    D o you mean I should provide the link ?
    To be honest , my computer skills are very basic .
    I’ll try to learn how to do that and provide links in the future

  7. realist

    I know – I read it all – very depressing
    I try to remain optimistic but I think we are doomed
    You mention ‘revolution ‘
    That’s probably the only hope – but it won’t be by a large numbe of people if it does happen .
    Most people are still terribly ignorant when it comes to islam

  8. I see that the muslims who feel free to comment when their prophet is critically evaluated have been rather silent on this. Incidentally, the bodies of the three women were mutilated. Fairly typical muslim behaviour.

  9. Hello all!
    One of the greatest miss-conceptions against the blessed prophet Muhammad is that he was a murderer and an evil man. Indeed nothing can be further than the truth, when one examines his life and the authentic sound “Hadiths”, one will find out that the prophet Muhammad was a great merciful man who never harmed innocent people.

    It should be noted that although those verses mentioned above do exist in some “Hadiths”, many of them are taken out of context and the context in which they exist should be read completely. Here I shall post a couple of “Hadiths” which show direct orders from the prophet that Muslims should not kill women and children, by doing so we shall refute many of the lies and distortions that have been thrown against the blessed prophet on supposedly being a cold hearted killer. There are so much “Hadiths” where the Prophet condemned the killing of innocent women and children during time of war that it is impossible to deny them … and you would be either blind or oblivious to fail to spot them …

    …here are a few:

    Book 021, Hadith Number 010.
    Section : Prohibition against Killing Women and Children in Military Expeditions.

    “I advise you ten things| Do not kill women or children or an aged, infirm person. Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees. Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly.”


    Maliks Muwatta
    Book 021, Hadith Number 008.
    Section : Prohibition against Killing Women and Children in Military Expeditions.

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that a son of Kab ibn Malik (Malik believed that ibn Shihab said it was Abd ar-Rahman ibn Kab) said, “The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade those who fought ibn Abi Huqayq (a treacherous jew from Madina) to kill women and children. He said that one of the men fighting had said, ——‘The wife of ibn Abi Huqayq began screaming and I repeatedly raised my sword against her. Then I would remember the prohibition of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, so I would stop. Had it not been for that, we would have been rid of her.'” ——-

    Plus, Here is a hadith were we see the first caliph of Islam commanding a Muslim to not kill women or children, nor the elderly. The caliph was simply following the instructions that he had been given by non other than the prophet Muhammad. So as we see, the prophet Muhammad ordered his Muslim community to not kill women, children, or the elderly, obviously not the actions or orders of a deranged lunatic.

    Again I ask our readers primarily our Christian readers to use logic, is a man who orders his fellow men to not kill women and children a barbaric ruthless killer?

    Last but not least, let us compare these noble sayings of the prophet and the first caliph of Islam with that of the Bible:

    1 Samuel 15:2,3
    2 This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy [a] everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ”

    Numbers 31:17,18
    17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

    Deuteronomy 20:16
    16 However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

    Can you even compare the two? I ask you who really is the ruthless murderer? Again, use logic and the answer will be very easy for you. In fact there is not one order by Jesus in the NT that commands his believers to not kill women and children.

    In conclusion we have seen how merciful and noble the prophet was, a true prophet of God would never order the slaughter of women and children, a true prophet would spare them since they are innocent of what their men do, and that is exactly what the prophet did. So if you are serious about reading Sahih Al Bukhari and other classic Hadith collections, you should spend some time learning how a Hadith should be used and understood.


  10. Welcome, my dear Saracen!

    Could it be that you got your Islam all wrong and your verses out of context?

    If you like I will prove to you that your “blessed prophet Muhammad” was indeed a murderer and an evil man.

    You know as well as we do that infidels, (non-Muslims, or kuffars if you prefer) are never ‘innocent’ because they have ‘rejected faith’- so you are wasting our time (and yours) to do your religious da’awa here. Remember: “unbelief is worse than slaughter”- and we don’t intend to be slaughtered by your evil, fanatical co-religionists. We fight back!

    It is clear that by trying to defend the evil deeds of your false prophet you are resorting to lies, which is your religious obligation in Islam.

    Most people here on this blog know about kitman and taqiyya, therefore you are wasting your time and ours.

    But lets go to your ‘out of context’ claims and refute them one by one: You say, Muhammad said “Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees”- but he did cut down the date palms of the Banu Nadir in an unprovoked attack, only to rob them and to drive them out of their homes.

    The hadith posted above clearly show that Muhammad had no problem killing women and children because he said “they are from them”.

    Muhammad was a mass- murderer and an evil man indeed. Instead of planting lies here on this blog about his atrocious, shocking life full of crime, rape and robberies, why don’t you tell us about the torture and the subsequent murder of Kinana al Rabi, the Jewish merchant whose gold Muhammad was after?

    Muhammad himself raped the captured women in his raids. Rayhana and Safiya from the Jewish tribes of Banu Quraiza and Banu Nadir were the shares of the Prophet and were allotted to him before other Muslim warriors could get their share of their sex slaves.

    Muhammad was also an arsonist:

    Bukhari:V1B11N617 “I would order someone to collect firewood and another to lead prayer. Then I would go burn the houses of men who did not present themselves at the compulsory prayer and prostration.”

    More than a dozen of people were assassinated by the followers of Muhammad and at his behest. One of them was a centenarian man called Abu Afak whose crime was to mock the Prophet in a poem. Another one was Asma Bint Marwan who composed a lyric cursing the Arabs for letting Muhammad get away with his crimes. The Prophet asked: Who will get me rid of her?

    Umayr b. Adiy al-Khatmi who was with him heard him, and that very night he went to her house and killed her. In the morning he came to the apostle and told him what he had done and he [Muhammad] said, You have helped God and His apostle, O Umayr! When he asked if he would have to bear any evil consequences the apostle said, “Two goats won’t butt their heads about her.”

    Asma was the mother of 5 small children. When her assassin came to take her life, she was asleep and her suckling baby next to her.

    Every torture, every cruelty, every inhumanity perpetrated by Muslims in authority is inspired by the words and the deeds of the Prophet and can be found in Quran and hadith, the two sources of guidance for over a billion Muslims worldwide. Here you can read the whole sordid details, glorified by these very same Muslims who want to tell us that Islam is peaceful and the verses ‘out of context’…

    And no, my dear Saracen, you cannot compare these “noble sayings” of the prophet and the first caliph of Islam with that of the Bible, because the Amalekites are a footnote in history, whereas the teachings of your koran and your prophet is for all mankind and for all time. That’s why quoting the koran is never out of context, while your failed attempt to bring the bible into this is definitely ‘out of context’.

    Fact is, Muslims kill women and children, all the time. Muslims use children as suicide bombers or hide behind them when they attack allied or Israeli soldiers.
    (That’s when they don’t blow up schools like in Beslan or bomb buses, buildings and trains like they do wherever the jihad ideology rages.)

    In this spirit I suggest you direct your da’awa towards your coreligionists who are misunderstanders of Islam instead of wasting time here trying to pull the Islamic wool over our eyes and ears.


    PS: A belief which leaves no place for doubt is not a belief; it is a superstition. – José Bergamín

  11. Saracen, two of the greatest miss-conceptions against Muhammad are that he was (a) blessed, and (b) a prophet.

    Only someone under a curse of death and hell would recite something
    like “they did not kill him (Jesus Christ, God’s only begotten Son), nor
    did they crucify him, but they thought they did” (Sura 4:157)

    There is a place for blasphemers and liars like Mo.

  12. Saracen,
    Use that name very carefully – you have been beaten at every turn – the next time you will be utterly destroyed. Mohammed was a murderer, a rapist, and a child molester, You would do well to convince your co-religionists to behave like human beings – patience is NOT infinite. I do not wish you peace – you have not deserved it.

    After hearing Milliband talking about the two murdered hostages one really feels like throwing up. Care to comment on the murder of another two innocent people by your peaceful followers of the rabid murderer and pedophile. The Americans let a terror suspect go to release the hostages. The hostages were murdered. The moral is that you kill these muslim scum – you do not release them.

  13. Saracen, i enjoyed reading what u wrote, u are very well educated about hadiths, Kuran and the Bible and you back up what you say. i looked it all up to make sure you were right and you were. though sheikyermami is right about SOME history but i would have to say that the comparison of violence in islamic history is no where near the violence taken place in the name of any other religions, countries, and even athiest. i like reading history but you guys really got me into realizing the differences. anyways you guys waste your time on trying to prove your points because you will go in circles and it will change nothing.

  14. Kinana al Rabi had the custody of the treasure of Banu Nadir, the apostle asked him about it but he denied knowing where it was, so a jew came to the apostle and told him where he seen Kinana go every morning. the apostle asked another time where the treasure of Banu Nadir was and if he still refused to say then he will be killed. again he denied knowing. al-Zubayr Al-Awwam put hot metal to his chest as a torture method but he was killed by Muhammad b. Maslama revenge for his brother Mohmud which Kinana had killed.

    Rayhana was a member of the Banu Nadir but not much is known about her, she died a year before Mohmmad. It is said Mohmmad offered her to become his wife and accept Islam but she refused, it is said one of the following accured 1) she then married mohmmad and later divorced 2) she died Mohmmads servant 3)once she refused she was set free. . .4) some claimed that she had said herself that she was manumitted by Mohmmad but none of these are known for sure.

    Safiya married Kinana in 627 when she was 17 Safiya is said to have informed Kinana of a dream she had in which the moon had fallen from the heavens into her lap. Kinana interpreted it as a desire to marry Muhammad and struck her, leaving a mark which was still visible when she first had contact with Muhammad.
    she later became Muhmmads wife. After Muhammad’s death, she became involved in the power politics of the early Muslim community, and acquired substantial influence by the time of her death she is well known and loved by Muslim people…

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