More Honor Killing All the Time

Western Justice for Honor Killers

The British Are Doing Something Right

Hmm, not too sure about that. My guess is that they have good intentions, but when it comes to the hard work and getting into the nitty gritty the “Muslim community” will get so fired up that they will back off, as usual…

* British police have launched a new drive aimed at stopping “honor killings” and other domestic crimes directed against women. (that was in 2004)

British authorities recently reopened 119 suspicious deaths of women where no charges were brought, but which are now suspected to have been honor killings. This has already been announced in 2007 and  what exactly has been done about it?


Spencer: The Islamic Justification for Honor Killing

Islamic apologists will again assure us that honor killing has nothing to do with Islam and is a cultural practice followed by a wide variety of peoples — and yet Muslim girls keep getting killed in disproportionate numbers. No one, of course, dares to confront the root of the problem by pointing out such inconvenient truths as the fact that a manual of Islamic law certified by Al-Azhar as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy says that “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (‘Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2).

In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law. In accord with this, in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”

“She got pregnant outside marriage, so father killed her: police,” from AFP, October 19/ Jihad Watch

Wafa Sultan, “A God Who Hates,” page 26, “The teachings of Islam have destroyed the men and women there [in the Middle East], and rendered them incapable of the smallest measure of humane behavior.”

Phyllis Chesler

When girls or women suddenly disappear, we tend to assume that they’ve been kidnapped by pedophiles or traffickers. Some of us think they were probably prostitutes and either deserved to die or were, tragically, lured to their deaths by a serial killer.

We do not think they might have been killed by their own families. And, we always assume that the slavers are men. Both beliefs are wrong.

For example, in 1999, in a suburb north of London, a fifteen year old Kurdish Turk, Tulay Goren, suddenly disappeared. The family insisted that she had simply run away. Now, a decade later, her father, Mehmet Goren and her paternal uncles Cuma Goren and Ali Goren are on trial at the Old Bailey for her murder and for having conspired to kill her much older boyfriend, Halil Unal.

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This case may be the first honor killing which the British police have re-opened after a decade and which they are trying as an “honor killing.” There might be many more such cases, both here and all over the world. I am not usually one to praise the British but I will do so here. They are leading the European pack in terms of dealing with honor killings.

What was this poor child Tulay’s crime? She fell in love with a Sunni Muslim; Tulay was from the Alevi branch of the faith. Her father demanded that she take a “virginity test” and felt “dishonored, humiliated.” He punched and kicked her. Wisely, Tulay ran away from home twice and asked to be put in a children’s home. Tulay wanted to marry Halil (he had asked for her hand in marriage) but she had already been “promised” to her first cousin.

Tulay’s mother, Hanim, sweet-talked her into returning home. Meanwhile, Tulay’s father consulted with his older and younger brothers on the matter and with their approval and encouragement, killed his daughter. At least one of the brothers helped dispose of Tulay’s body which has never been found. At least fifteen family members attended a meeting which led to the decision to murder Tulay. Tulay was viewed as a “worthless commodity” who had shamed her entire family.

Now, her mother is testifying for the prosecution. Although she was sent away the night Tulay was murdered, Hanim has now recanted what she formerly told the police, namely that Tulay had run away. Now, Hanim admits that she noticed the “earth being disturbed in the garden, knives and bin-bags disappearing and her husband washing his shirt.” She has also testified to seeing a “deep injury” to her husband’s palm and her daughter’s clothes missing.

Sadly, Tulay tried to escape and was even able to warn her boyfriend which saved his life.

And, by the way: Mehmet Goren apparently had a hard time assimilating. He could not master the English language, had a gambling problem, and was never regularly employed. Thus, while Mehmet may or may not have been a religious fundamentalist (I can find no information about this), he and his family certainly upheld the cultural traditions of Kurdish Turks who are Muslims.

I have recently completed a major study about honor killings on five continents over the last twenty years which analyzed the fates of 230 victims in Europe, North America, and the Muslim world. Hopefully, it will be published in an academic journal in the near future; rest assured, the findings are very powerful as well as surprising.

But I will say this: Tulay’s case is a classic honor killing, one in which a fairly young girl—a female child really—is killed by multiple perpetrators, all members of her family of origin, especially her father, with her mother’s complicity. Her crime? She refused to marry her first cousin and dared to choose her own husband-to-be. Based on my own study, I suspect Tulay may have been stabbed multiple times, stabbed excessively—although this may remain unknown as long as her body is not discovered.

Tulay was assimilating, she was becoming “too westernized.” This alone is a capital crime. She imagined a future of her own, one not entirely chosen for her by her family. Tulay had to be stopped, an example had to be set so that other immigrant girls would not take this path and would continue consenting to arranged marriages to their first cousins so that they may “breed” acceptably inbred babies.

I wonder what influenced Tulay’s mother to now break with her entire family. What will the consequences of doing so be?

Tulay Goren: Rest in Peace.

5 thoughts on “More Honor Killing All the Time”

  1. Do you suppose the judge in Rifka Bary’s case will ever hear about this?
    I doubt if he’d read it if all of us emailed the report to him.

    Perhaps someone should find out how to get through to the Ohio Children’s Aid, in whose custody Rifka is in, and report this. This evidence is vitally important in her case for freedom.

    Rifka is doomed if she is sent back to her parents in one month.
    The stupid judge didn’t even demand surrender of her passport which means they could take her back to SriLanka.
    The poor kid. I still have high hopes that she’ll somehow be rescued.

  2. As to Rifka Bary, her fate is pretty much in hands of the people of the USA. Demand that the judges findings and verdict be frozen until his work is properly investigated. If his decision has been based on politically expediency then he should be jailed. Her passport should be returned to Ms. Barry or a non-muslim court appointed Guardian of her choice. In any event the judge involved required further investigation and the people of the USA should demand this.

  3. To the above posters. Rifqa’s family is in the country illegally. The FL judge has asked for their documentation and refuses to release her to OH children’s services until they produce those documents. Next hearing on Oct. 23, 2009. She can ask for amnesty due to her fear of being killed. Her family (father) liquidated all his assets and they fear he may take her back to Sri Lanka then kill her. Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs is on it and blogging about the trial. She got in with a press pass.

  4. You hear Muslims saying that is an honour to kill your daughters (rarely if ever their sons) if they have brought dishonour to the family. Good job that Naomi Wolfs father was not a Muslim, for her sake anyway.

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