Australia, a 'Godforsaken' country

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  • Secular democracy is ‘un-Islamic’
  • Islamic group’s presence sparks protest

 Salim Atchia from global Islamic group Hizb ut-Tahrir addresses a conference of radical headbangers and subversives…..

LEADERS of the global Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir have called on Australian Muslims to spurn secular democracy and Western notions of moderate Islam and join the struggle for a transnational Islamic state.


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British Hizb ut-Tahrir leader Burhan Hanif told participants at a conference in western Sydney yesterday that democracy is “haram” (forbidden) for Muslims, whose political engagement should be be based purely on Islamic law.

“We must adhere to Islam and Islam alone,” Mr Hanif told about 500 participants attending the convention in Lidcombe.

Police step in to clam things down during the protest

“We should not be conned or succumb to the disingenuous and flawed narrative that the only way to engage politically is through the secular democratic process. It is prohibited and haram.”

He said democracy was incompatible with Islam because the Koran insisted Allah was the sole lawmaker, and Muslim political involvement could not be based on “secular and erroneous concepts such as democracy and freedom”.

His view was echoed by an Australian HT official, Wassim Dourehi, who told the conference Muslims should not support “any kafir (non-believer) political party”, because humans have no right to make laws.

Mr Dourehi also urged Muslims to spurn the concept of moderate Islam promoted by governments in the West, including in “this godforsaken country” of Australia.

“We need to reject this new secular version of Islam,” he said. “It is a perverted concoction of Western governments.

“It is a perversion that seeks to wipe away the political aspects of Islam and localise our concerns. We must reject it and challenge the proponents of this aberration of Islam.”

The conference, which followed the theme The struggle for Islam in the West’ was the first major event held by the Australian branch of HT since a seminar in 2007 which coincided with calls for the group to be banned.

HT is outlawed in much of the Middle East but operates legally in more than 40 countries, campaigning for the establishment of a caliphate or Islamic state.

HT’s platform rejects the use of violence in its quest for an Islamic state, but supports the military destruction of Israel.

APP member Nick Folkes, left, faces off with one a Muslim man during yesterday’s protest.

 TheAustralian Protectionist Party said Islamic group Hizb ut-Tahrir have no place in society.

But the group’s presence sparked angry protests outside as members of the Australian Protectionist Party (APP) yelled anti-Islam chants.

The APP met in a small park to express their need to “protect” the Australian way of life.

Conflict between the APP and HT amounted to an exchange of words, anti-Islam chants and the occasional drive-by of young Muslim men yelling obscenities from their car at the APP protesters.

One passer-by, a young Muslim man, yelled at the APP group: “You people have absolutely no idea”, sparking a fiery exchange of accusations and finger-pointing.

Nick Folkes, the Sydney organiser for the APP, believes that the HT should be banned in Australia and thinks that practising sharia law should be illegal in Australia.

“Sharia law is an archaic legal system that treats woman as second-class citizens,” he said.

“We’re not asking them to change their skin colour or religion. But if they come here, they must reject sharia law.”

Additional reporting by Sallie Don.

Read more about Australian Muslims being told to shun secular democracy at The Australian.

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    The comments on this link are so disturbing.. like this one


    D of Melbourne Posted at 12:45 PM May 18, 2011

    He obviously either doesn’t understand the religious teachings of the book he supposedly is preaching or is spinning it in a way that suits his own ideological bias. The Qur’an commands that no government may rule independent in of itself, and that God is the only true sovereign. This is meant to be a safeguard against authoritarianism and dictatorship- not an excuse for it. look up Sayed Khatab- Democracy in Islam or anything by John L Esposito. I genuinely believe that no Muslim who has actually read the Qur’an could genuinely hold extremist views without bastardising their faith. Any TRUE Muslim would probably hold more progressive values in regards to racial, religious, sexual equality then most rural conservative Christian Australians. -Second year politics and history major, Jewish born atheist, and sixth generation Australian.

  2. * “We need to reject this new secular version of Islam,” he said. “It is a perverted concoction of Western governments.

    We know that, muslims know that, but our government continues to deny it and pretend that islam has been hijacked by misunderstanders.

  3. (google for link – 9 News)

    [Queensland’s Deputy Premier Andrew Fraser has called on Liberal National Party (LNP) and Katter’s Australian Party MPs to denounce a group spreading anti-Islamic propaganda in the state.

    Mr Fraser’s west Brisbane electorate is being letterbox dropped by a group called Qsociety, which is concerned with the “erosion of Western values and the Islamisation of Australia”.]

  4. Was Mr.Folkes threatened by the islamic piece of crud?? If so, we have a picture and the matter can be taken further.

  5. Q Society truly needs more Australian people to help it gain more momentum. With the sheer amount of Quislings in the Australian Parliament today we have no chance of ever turning the tide.

    Hizzy But Stirers are the true hate speachers why isn’t there anyone or any group calling for action on their seditious actions/speech?

  6. agree vangrungy – whomever d of melbourne is, its understanding of islam is clearly not undewrstood by the majority of muslims or by any interpretation of the quran and hadiths. go to pakistan to fund true muslims who regularly rape and muder for their religion.

  7. “Secular democracy is ‘un-Islamic’”

    YES – which is why we like it so much.

    (Of course, saying “Islam is anti-Secular democracy” would be racist – so we avoid that!)

  8. I think I would have liked it if he’d added “so we (muslims) should all leave” after he’d called Australia “this godforsaken country”.

  9. I wish the Government would scrutinise more carefully who it lets into Australia. These Islamists should piss off back to whence they came. They have NO RIGHT coming to Australia in the first place – because they have no intention on integrating or swearing allegiance to our flag and laws.
    The frame of reference – re rules and regulations in coming to our shores – have changed…………..NOW WE NEED TO CHANGE THEM BACK. COME ON AUSSIES C’MON.

  10. Their flags say everything you need to know about those koranimals.

    They’re pushing war.

  11. Who let them in? Who was the class A wanker in Beirut who was giving them all visas to come to Australia? I remember when the most they did was cut the goat’s throat in the back yard. That was the 1970s. Its only got worse and their numbers have increased. I can’t understand how Whitlam and Fraser didn’t have the knowledge to see this would happen. How many lighthorseman or 7th division men served in the middle east in the wars? Crikey I remember my great uncle going on about the gypos and how nuts they were from 1916. Why was our government so stupid. I think the answer is OIL from the US. The US wanted stability in the middle east and so encouraged Europe and Australia to import a hostlile alien culture. Now look at all the problems we have . Cronulla was only the beginning.

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