The enlightened PM of Oz, Malcolm Turncoat, thought he could exchange about 2500 Muselmaniacs hauled up in Vanuatu and PNG with a similar number of Mohammedans who tried to get to the U.S. and got stuck in Costa Rica. What’s the point? Knowing Trump, he will not fall for it.
TURNBULL, TRUMP IN TELEPHONE TIFF
Consider the source, but Donald Trump apparently doesn’t care for Malcolm Turnbull’s agile and innovative conversational gambits.
The Washington Post reports:
It should have been one of the most congenial calls for the new commander in chief — a conversation with the leader of Australia, one of America’s staunchest allies, at the end of a triumphant week.
Instead, President Trump blasted Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull over a refugee agreement and boasted about the magnitude of his electoral college win, according to senior U.S. officials briefed on the Saturday exchange. Then, 25 minutes into what was expected to be an hour-long call, Trump abruptly ended it.
Understandably. After all, 25 minutes with Malcolm probably felt like twohours.
Trump, who one day earlier had signed an executive order temporarily barring the admissions of refugees, complained that he was “going to get killed” politically and accused Australia of seeking to export the “next Boston bombers.”
Best. Line. Ever.
At one point Trump informed Turnbull that he had spoken with four other world leaders that day — including Russian President Vladimir Putin — and that “This was the worst call by far.”
Until his next call from Malcolm.
The friction with Turnbull reflected Trump’s anger over being bound by an agreement reached by the Obama administration to accept refugees from Australian detention sites even while Trump was issuing an executive order suspending such arrivals from elsewhere in the world.
The issue centers on a population of roughly 2,500 people who have sought asylum in Australia but were diverted to facilities off that country’s coast at Nauru and Manus Island in Papua New Guinea. Deplorable conditions at those sites prompted intervention from the United Nations and a pledge from the United States to accept about half of those refugees, provided they passed U.S. security screening.
It’s an island of deplorables! Turnbull is now ducking and weaving:
Mr Turnbull on Monday described the call as constructive, saying the pair acknowledged the already strong and deep relationship between the US and Australia and committed to making it stronger.
On Thursday he refused to answer questions about the report, sticking to his previous public statements.
“I’m not going to comment on these reports out of the United States about the conversation,” he told reporters in Melbourne.
“It’s better that these conversations are conducted candidly, frankly, privately.”
Better for Turnbull, at any rate.
UPDATE. Further from Turnbull:
“The report that the president hung up is not correct, the call ended courteously,” he told 2GB radio this afternoon.
He backed this statement up during an interview with 3AW radio, saying he was “disappointed” about the leak but some information had not been accurate.
“It was a 25-minute call, it covered a number of issues but the bulk of the time was spent on the refugee resettlement deal,” he said.
The Prime Minister also responded to President Trump’s tweet, saying the facts were President Trump had given an assurance during their conversation that the deal would go ahead, White House press secretary Sean Spicer confirmed that in a briefing on Wednesday and the US embassy in Canberra reconfirmed it this afternoon.
“I do stand up for Australia but I can assure you the call was courteous,” Mr Turnbull said.
Good old courteous Malcolm. One or two former Turnbull staffers must be absolutely loving this.
Turnbull is stupid. Back in December when this ‘refugee swap’ was first pronounced, I wondered what Trump will do. Wake up leftists. The world you so enjoyed ended Jan. 20th.
“If they pass screening”. They won’t.
“Our” headbangers on Manus Island and the islamic savages hauled up in Costa Rica, which we are to take in exchange, all carry the same mental baggage. That’s no deal.
Of course it was a DUMB deal.
Obama fell over backwards to get this ticking time bomb in place knowing full well Trump would question it. Trump should deal with the only grown up in the Australia government ex PM “Tony Abbott” Turnbull has and will always be out of his depth with Trump. Granted a deal is a deal is a deal and and if Trump didn’t need Australia for its military purposes this deal would be flushed down the nearest bog hole.
The Donald is safe. No way these country shopping illegals will pass screening. Remember the modus operandi these creatures use? As soon as they get close to Australia, they destroy their identity papers. Then they study up on Australian court judgments, on what constitutes an asylum seeker in law. Then they spout a BS story to the credulous idiots in Immigration, claiming to be totally different people to who they really are, even claiming to be from a different country. And if a poor asylum seeker fleeing persecution says it, why then it must be true, right, even if there are no documents supporting the heart-rending story? Thank God Tony Abbott, the only Federal pollie with testicular fortitude, stopped this rort, when everyone (including Turncoat) said it couldn’t be done. But back to the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave: The Donald is getting rid of all the Obama traitors throughout Government. Will US Immigration be swayed by unducumented whining BS stories from a bunch of illegals? I think not!
Will extreme vetting reveal where these so called refugees come from?
Once that is known , these countries will accept their people, once The Donald has explained to them why they should.
BTW, can WAPO be relied on for news about President Trump?
Not even “extreme” vetting will ever work, and here’s why:
ALL muslims are trained, habitual LIARS – they have been told since birth that their god wants them to lie to everyone, all the time! Everything about sharia law is how to avoid the Golden Rule and how to lie to get out of its punishments! Islam itself is all about how to make up excuses to avoid personal responsibility!
According to their most revered sharia “law” (crime) manuals, the judge actually has to instruct the jury to lie to him!
It says “Allah wants you to lie to me on behalf of criminals; if you do so, then allah will lie on your behalf, on the day of judgment!”
These are the sorts of people, slaves to the ancient global crime-gang, that libtards want to bring here en masse! People whose “holy book” (war and crime manual) orders them to extort, enslave, and murder ALL the non-muslims in the world, for their god! That’s how they “worship” it!
And, that earnest look on their faces? It doesn’t mean “Oh, at last I have met a tolerant, non-racist white person who is treating me like a human being!” It really only means “Thank allah you fell for my lies, so now I probably won’t personally have to make a mess by murdering you myself!”
In other words, you know those open, innocent-seeming, relieved, “Thank allah this ONE person isn’t denigrating my religion and seems to be genuinely open to reason about it!” which liberal racists so-obviously crave, and MUST be getting all the time from their “muslim friends”?
(Because of course that would make them feel “unique” amongst all the rest of us hater/ racist/ bigots here in the West, wouldn’t it?)
😉
Well… Guess What! Those earnest looks AREN’T based on their being some poor, misunderstood and oppressed minority!
NOR are they based on their being happy to save an infidel’s soul by telling you their religious “truths” either! (Despite what most Westerners might commonly have come to expect from most of those puppy-like, innocently naive, more local religious folks around here)!
NO, those looks of relief are ONLY based on the moslems’ own, personal relief that, if you fall for their LIES, then they won’t personally eventually have to kill you for allah (which would be onerous, messy, and distasteful, even to them)!
So what they saw were the exact same looks as they’d get from, say, the delusively innocent Jehovah’s Witlesses, but were motivated by entirely different background reasons!
;-(
ALL muslims are liars. Their creed informs them their god wants them to lie all the time, to everyone* – to their own families and friends (“to keep the peace”) and of course to their infidel enemies (“to keep the peace until you are in a position of strength and able to successfully attack them again”). Obviously, since islam is only an extortion racket CRIME syndicate, they have to lie to them selves, too, in order to pretend it’s a “religion” in any way; i.e:
“God told us to commit these crimes!”
(Capisce?)!
…Doctrinal PROOF?
*(Narrated in al-Bukhari, 2546; Muslim, 2605)
It was narrated that Asma’ Bint Yazeed said: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: ‘It is not permissible to tell lies except in three (cases): when a man speaks to his wife in a way to please her; lying in war; and lying in order to reconcile between people.’”
Muslims are told by allah to LIE TO EVERYONE, ALL THE TIME: (and all “to keep the peace!”) to their own families and friends, and of course to their “infidel enemies.”
Similarly, one of Mohammed’s own daughters, Umm Kalthoum, testified that she had never heard the Apostle of Allah condone lying, except in these three situations:
1.) For reconciliation among people.
2.) In war.
3.) Amongst spouses, to keep peace in the family.
In other words, “allah wants you to lie to everyone, all the time!”
And, while they amputate the appropriate limbs for theft, not only do they not cut out their own tongues for lying, but they actively encourage it…yet lying is only the most basic form of theft – it’s the theft of the Truth. And theft IS crime.
So “allah” is only an immoral thief, just like his creator, Muhammad was.
PS: The ends don’t justify the means – they only ever really DEFINE the end results: If you lie, murder and steal to get your way, in the end, you’re NOT “a great success” – you’re still really only a lying, murdering THIEF!
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“If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths (to each other, not to infidels). Thus doth Allah make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful.” Surah 5:89 (In other words, if you feel guilty about lying, just go on a diet for three days and allah will forgive you).
“Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness (vain) in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.” Surah 2:225
“Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief, except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith – but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.” Surah 16: 106
The noted Islamic commentator, Al-Tabari explained Surah 16:106 as a verse that had been revealed to Mohammed after he learned that Ammar Ibn Yasser was forced to deny his faith in Mohammed when kidnapped by the Banu Moghera tribe. Mohammed consoled Ammar by telling him, “If they turned, you turn.” (Meaning: if they again capture you, you are allowed to deny me again.)
3:28 [http://www.islam-universe.com/tafsir//3.8052.html], 3:118, 4:89, 4:139, 4:144, 5:51, 9:23, 9:33, 60:1, 60:13
3:28. Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliyâ (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allâh in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allâh warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allâh is the final return.
And why would muslims “fear a danger from unbelievers”? Maybe because the muslims have been told they are so superior to all the non-muslims in the world, that it’s not only their right, but also their holy responsibility to their god to extort, enslave, and murder them all for their ‘crime’ of not being muslims? That might upset their victims, so of course they’re supposed to lie in order to be able to ‘defend’ their holy right to continue to commit their crimes against their victims!
Ibn Kathir quotes ahadith which are not included in Khan’s translation but are included in Aisha Bewley’s, in his explanation of 3:28.
… meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said,
“We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.”
Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, “The Taqiyah (holy deception and lying to infidels to promote the islamic criime-gang) is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.”
Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”
Qur’an 66:2 “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.”
Islam elevates lies and deception to the level of a sacrament.
In fact, there are so many calls to deceit, and ways to deceive, as prescribed by their texts, that they have special terms for it all – being born into islam is like having to take a university-level course in lying!
Here’s a small sample:
Taqiyya (Shia) or Muda’rat (Sunni): tactical deceit for the purposes of spreading Islam.
Kitman: deceit by omission.
Tawriya: deceit by ambiguity.
Taysir: deceit through facilitation (not having to observe all the tenets of Sharia).
Darura: deceit through necessity (to engage in something “Haram” or forbidden).
Muruna: the temporary suspension of Sharia in order that Muslim immigrants appear “moderate.” So through the principle of Hijra (Muslim Immigration), the early Muslims are a “red herring” or a Trojan Horse. The Kafir or Kuffar community gets the false sense that the early immigrants are not a threat, at least until the Muslim community has gained strength.
Taqiyya Deception (taqqiya): Dissimulation (Concealment of the truth about a situation) is sanctified hypocrisy. It is considered a part of Islamic strategy to lie and deceive unbelievers by any means. Thus, exercising turkey is very pious behavior. Veiling the truth: Adjustment, deception up to the open lie. -Taqqiya is attached, if it is helpful to the well-being of the religion -Islam (Khomeini).
(To lie and cheat for the good of Islam against an Infidel is considered as a sacred duty)
Kitman also spelled as Kithman is close to Taqqiya (see above) but rather than outright dissimulation, it consists in telling only a part of the truth, with “mental reservation” justifying the omission of the rest. One example may suffice. When a Moslem maintains that “jihad” really means “a spiritual struggle” and fails to add that this definition is a recent one in Islam (Little more than a century old), he misleads by holding back, and is practicing “Kitman.” Another example would be the insistence of a Moslem apologist that, “of course”, there is freedom of conscience in Islam and then quoting that Qur’anic verse: ”There shall be no compulsion in religion.” But the impression given will be false, for there has been no mention of the Moslem doctrine of abrogation, (To abolish, do away with, or annul, especially by authority) or naskh.
There are 109 verses straight from the Quran dictating hate, murder, and terror against all people who will not submit or convert to Islam.
By muslim Standards: “Success” is measured by what they have done to affect your “status” with them. (A.) Whether they have converted you, by any and all means, (B.) Subjected you to a Dhimmi-Slave status and you have paid the 30% Jizyah Tax, of which you will receive absolutely no benefit as a Non-Moslem (C.) Cut off your hand and foot on opposite sides, (the same as if you were caught as a thief) (D.) or enslaved as an actual slave or (E.) Killed you!