The weekly show “Questions About Faith” on the Egyptian based Christian Al-Hayat satellite channel features an Egyptian Coptic priest residing in the United States. Father Zakaria Boutrus, the show, and Al-Hayat TV itself, have come under harsh criticism in the Egyptian press. Boutrus and his show have been accused of attacking Islam; of being supported by the U.S. to sow division and strife; and of “mocking the verses of Allah.”
Boutrus: “I live in a country (the U.S.) that respects freedom of speech. I exercise my freedom of speech and talk, and no one can deny my free will. Gone are the days of the sharp sword that cut off the tongues of our people and forefathers to prevent them from speaking in the Coptic language. Gone are the days people’s heads would be chopped off if they did not convert to Islam.”
Interviewer: “What should the Muslims do to make you stop saying these things?”
Moe was a horny toad:
Notice to readers:
Boutrus: “I live in a country (the U.S.) that respects freedom of speech” – is obviously no longer the case, since the youtube wankers have taken the video down. But read the transcript, its worth it!
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“(Al-Halabi) says: ‘ If the Prophet wanted an available woman…’ – in other words, an unmarried woman, a widow, or a single woman – ‘…he was allowed to enter her…’ I don’t like to use the word i-n-t-e-r-c-o-u-r-s-e. ‘…without her guardian and without witnesses…’ Without witnesses. ‘…and against her will.’ Against her will. ‘If he desired a married woman, her husband had to divorce her for him. And if he desired a servant-girl, her master had to give her to him. He can even marry off the woman to whoever he wants, against her will.’”
Interviewer: “We know that the Prophet is allowed what others are not.”
Boutrus: “Why? Is he made of different stuff than the rest of mankind?”
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Islam’s ‘Public Enemy #1’
Coptic priest Zakaria Botros fights fire with fire.
By Raymond Ibrahim
Though he is little known in the West, Coptic priest Zakaria Botros — named Islam’s “Public Enemy #1” by the Arabic newspaper, al-Insan al-Jadid — has been making waves in the Islamic world. Along with fellow missionaries — mostly Muslim converts — he appears frequently on the Arabic channel al-Hayat (i.e., “Life TV”). There, he addresses controversial topics of theological significance — free from the censorship imposed by Islamic authorities or self-imposed through fear of the zealous mobs who fulminated against the infamous cartoons of Mohammed. Botros’s excurses on little-known but embarrassing aspects of Islamic law and tradition have become a thorn in the side of Islamic leaders throughout the Middle East.
* January 12, 2009
Father Zakaria Botros on “The perverse sexual habits of the Prophet”
Life TV’s Father Zakaria Botros recently ran a show dedicated to discussing the question of morality and how it is—or should be—one of the hallmarks of “prophethood.” At the start, he posed the focal question of the show: “Was Muhammad the prophet a moral man—the most upright man, worthy of being emulated by the world?”
He opened the show by relying on an Ibn Taymiyya quote, which evaluated the signs of prophethood. Taymiyya asserted that there are many false-prophets, such as Musailima “the Liar,” a contemporary of Muhammad. Taymiyya concluded that many of these so-called prophets are, in fact, “possessed,” and that the only way to determine the authenticity of any prophet is by examining his biography (sira) and deeds, and see if he be found worthy of the title.
Being that this is the first of several episodes devoted to examining the concepts of morality and prophethood (with the notion that the former reinforces the latter), the theme for this particular episode was “purity” (tahara): “Was Muhammad a ‘pure’ man?”—in this context, a question concerning his sexual mores (or lack thereof).
After the preliminaries, Botros looked at the camera and gave a stern warning: “This episode is for adults only! I am going to discuss many things that make me blush for shame, so please: have the women and children leave the room.”
He then asked Muslims watching to keep in mind the question “Is this the prophet I follow?” as he delineated some of Muhammad’s sexual habits.
First, from the Koran, Botros read verses unequivocally stating that Muhammad is the paragon of all virtue and morality, such as “And most surely you [Muhammad] conform (yourself) to sublime morality [68: 4].” He further quoted the ulema, such as Ibn Kathir, all insisting that Muhammad was the “Noblest of all humanity, and the greatest of prophets.”
Botros and his ex-Muslim cohost—the priest had insisted that it be a man for this particular show, lest he be too ashamed to delineate Muhammad’s sexual habits—discussed Koran 4:3, which “limits” a Muslim’s wives to four, plus “what your right hands possess,” that is, slave-girls.
That was apparently not good enough for Muhammad, asserted Botros; an entire verse had to be “revealed” justifying more women for him (Koran 33:50). In fact, Father Botros has carefully compiled a list of all the women—66 are known—to have had sexual relations with Muhammad.
Botros said that was only normal: according to Sirat Al-Halabi, Muhammad can have a woman no matter what, even against her will; and if Muhammad desired a married woman, her husband would have had to divorce her. According to Ibn Sa’ad, who wrote another authoritative biographical account of Muhammad, “The prophet did not die till all women were permitted him” (see Kitab Al Tabaqat Al Kubra, v.8, 194).
The co-host, rather abruptly, interjected – “What of all those rumors that Muhammad exhibited homosexual tendencies?”
Botros dropped his face in his hands and mumbled, “So you still insist we discuss that?” The co-host was adamant, saying it was for Muslims’ own good to know everything.
Thus Botros, after profusely apologizing to his Muslim viewers, saying how embarrassing this was for him, declared: “Look! We’re merely readers here, bringing up what we have read in Islam’s own books! If Muslims don’t like it, they should go and burn these books.”
The first anecdote discussed by the priest revolved around a hadith that, while some ulema say is “weak,” is, nonetheless according to Botros, present in 44 Islamic books—including some highly respected collections, such as Sunan Bayhaqi and Al Halabi.
According to this hadith, a man named Zahir, who used to declare that “the prophet loves me,” said that one day Muhammad crept unawares behind him and put him in a bear-hug. Zahir, alarmed, yelled, “Get off me!” After turning his head and discovering that it was Muhammad, he stopped struggling and proceeded to “push his back into the prophet’s chest—prayers and blessings upon him.”
Another curious hadith contained in Sunan Bayhaqi and which traces to Sunan Abu Dawud(one of the six canonical hadith collections), has Muhammad lifting up his shirt for a man who proceeded to kiss his entire torso, “from his bellybutton to his armpits.”
Botros looked casually at the camera and said, “Imagine if the sheikh of Al Azhar [nearest Muslim equivalent to the pope] went around lifting his shirt for men to kiss his torso” (he proceeded to make smacking kissing noises, for effect).
Said the co-host: “Surely there’s more?”
Botros: “Indeed there is. No less than 20 Islamic sources—such as the hadiths of Ahmad bin Hanbal—relay that Muhammad used to suck on the tongues of boys and girls”…
[Stay tuned for part II of "The perverse sexual habits of the Prophet"]
Alright, here’s the update:
Father Zakaria Botros on “The perverse sexual habits of the Prophet,” Part II
This being the continuation of Fr. Botros’ examination of Muhammad’s sexual morality (or lack thereof). See here for Part I. Last we left the priest and his co-host, the former noted that, “No less than 20 Islamic sources—such as the hadiths of Ahmad bin Hanbal—relay that Muhammad used to suck on the tongues of boys and girls.”
Botros proceeded to read aloud from various sources, such as a hadith relayed by Abu Hurreira (deemed an extremely reliable narrator), where Muhammad sucked on the tongues of his cousin (and future caliph) Ali’s two boys, Hassan and Hussein—they of revered Shia memory.
Next he read a hadith of Muhammad sucking on the tongue of his own daughter, Fatima. Fr Botros also added that the Arabic word for “suck” (muss) cannot, as some apologists insist, mean anything but “suck.” “After all,” added the perspicacious priest, “this is the same word used when discussing Muhammad’s ‘activities’ with his wives, especially his beloved child-bride, Aisha.”
With an extremely disgusted look on his face, Botros turned towards the camera and said: “Dear lady, imagine, for a moment, coming home to find your husband sucking on your daughter’s tongue? What would you do? It’s even worse: it’s your prophet—the most “morally upright” man, a man to be emulated by the world! A man who on record used to go around sucking the tongues of his wives, his daughters, and young boys: Are these the activities of the man described in the Koran as being the pinnacle of moral perfection?”
Cohost: “More!”
“Muhammad would not sleep until he kissed his daughter Fatima and nuzzled his face in her bosom [the priest provided the appropriate sources]. Dear lady! what would you say to your husband sleeping with his face in your daughter’s breast—is that the height of morality?!”
At this point, Fr Botros, looking downcast, began apologizing profusely, saying he could only imagine how all these anecdotes must be troubling for Muslims, to which the co-host reassured him: “It’s not your fault, father, but rather the fault of those Muslims recording these vile incidences. Either way: Muslims must know. More please.”
Botros continued reading more revealing hadiths, including one from the Musnad of Ahmad bin Hanbal, which records Muhammad seeing a 2-3 year old girl in her mother’s arms. Muhammad was so “impressed” by her that he said, “By Allah, if this girl reaches marrying age and I am still alive, I will surely marry her.”
Another hadith goes on to say that Muhammad ended up dying before this particular girl reached marriage age, to which the by now vexed priest, unable to contain himself, exclaimed, “Awwww! Poor prophet! He missed one!”
Botros then told viewers to keep this last hadith in mind, for “context,” as he read another hadith from the Sunan of Bin Said, which records Muhammad saying “I hugged so-and-so when she was a child and found that I greatly desired her.”
“What prophet is this you follow?!” cried the outraged Coptic priest. “Where is his morality? This is the man that Muslims follow slavishly? Use your minds?!”
It was late in the night, yet Fr Botros was not done cataloging his findings regarding the prophet’s “sexual” habits (these shows are an hour and a half long). So, when he moved on to a hadith depicting Muhammad laying next to a dead woman in her grave, as well as pointing to hadith categories called “intercourse with a dead woman,” I happily turned off the satellite and called it a night—till this moment, as I am (somewhat reluctantly) revisiting my notes to prepare this report.
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Father Zakaria Botros on “The perverse sexual habits of the Prophet” Part III
This being the continuation of Fr Zakaria Botros’ examination of Muhammad’s sexual morality (or lack thereof). See here for Part I and Part II.
Last we left the Coptic priest, he was reading from hadith reports stating that the prophet of Islam “admired” a 2-3 year old girl (saying that he hoped to live long enough to make her his wife), and “laid” in the grave with a dead woman.
In this episode, he began with the prophet’s “transvestite” tendencies. He read from several hadiths, including Sahih Bukhari—Fr Botros claims that there are no less than 32 different references to this phenomenon in Islam’s books—wherein Muhammad often laid in bed dressed in women’s clothes, specifically his child-bride Aisha’s.
Fr. Botros: “Perhaps Muslims think that he only dressed in Aisha’s clothes? Being that she was his “favorite,” perhaps after being intimate with her, he would merely lay in bed with her clothes?” (Here the priest put his face in his hands lamenting that he had to talk of such shameful things.)
Then he offered an interesting and revealing hadith, from Sahih Bukhari (2/911), which records Muhammad saying, “Revelations [i.e., the Koran] never come to me when I’m dressed in women’s clothing—except when I’m dressed in Aisha’s,” implying that it was something of a habit for the prophet to dress in female clothing.
Fr Botros next moved on to some commentaries in the Tafsir of al-Qurtubi—an authoritative exegesis in Islam. He read one anecdote where Aisha said that, one day, while Muhammad was lying naked in bed, Zaid came knocking; Muhammad, without getting dressed, opened the door and “hugged and kissed him”—in the nude. Elsewhere, Qurtubi concludes that, “the prophet—prayers and blessings upon him—was constantly preoccupied with women.”
Fr Botros to Muslims: “So this is your prophet—the most morally upright man? Instead of being preoccupied with, say, prayer or good deeds, he was preoccupied with women?”
He next read from Faid al-Qabir (3/371), wherein Muhammad is on record saying, “My greatest loves are women and perfume: the hungry is satisfied after eating, but I never have enough of women.” Another hadith: “I can hold back from food and drink—but not from women.” After reading these hadiths, Fr Botros would just look at the screen in silence, shaking his head.
He next read an interesting narrative (contained in Umdat al-Qari and Faid al-Qabir). Reportedly, Allah sent Gabriel with some sort of celestial food (called al-kofid) to Muhammad, commanding the latter to “Eat!”—identical to when Gabriel came to Muhammad saying “Read!” (i.e., iqra, the word for Koran). The report goes on to quote Muhammad saying that the food given to him “gave me the sexual potency of 40 heavenly men.” Fr Botros next read from the Sunan of al-Tirmidhi, where it says that the “heavenly man” has the sexual potency of 100 mortal men.
Wondered the priest: “So, doing the math, 40×100, we can conclude that Muhammad, whenever he ate his heavenly aphrodisiac, had the sexual potency of 4000 men? Really, O umma, is this the claim to fame of your prophet—that he was a raving sex maniac?” Then, less seriously, “Imagine the surprise when Westerners find out that, once again, it was Muhammad who first discovered Viagra!”
Zakaria Botros went on to read from more sources, such as Sunan al-Nisa’i, wherein Muhammad used to in a single night “visit” all his women, without washing in between. Asked the priest: “Why even record such obscene and embarrassing things?”
Perhaps most entertaining, Fr Botros spent some time analyzing an anecdote recorded in Ibn Kathir’s al-Bidaya we al-Nihaya. Here is a translation for this lengthy account:
After conquering the Jews of Khaybar, and plundering their belongings, among other things, a donkey fell into the lot of the prophet, who proceeded to ask the donkey: “What is your name?”
The donkey answered, “Yazid Ibn Shihab. Allah had brought forth from my ancestry 60 donkeys, none of whom were ridden on except by prophets. None of the descendants of my grandfather remain but me, and none of the prophets remain but you and I expected you to ride me. Before you, I belonged to a Jewish man, whom I caused to stumble and fall frequently so he used to kick my stomach and beat my back.”
Here, chuckling, the priest added, “a taqiyya-practicing donkey!” He continued reading, “The prophet – may Allah’s prayers and peace be upon him – said to him, ‘I will call you Ya’foor. O Ya’foor!’ Ya’foor replied, ‘I obey.’ The prophet asked, ‘Do you lust after females?’ The donkey replied, ‘No!’”
Cried the priest: “Even the donkey blushed for shame concerning your prophet’s over-sexed inquiries! Here we have what is supposed to be a miracle—a talking donkey; and of all things to communicate to this animal, your prophet’s most urgent question was whether the donkey lusts after females?”
Next, reading from Sahih Bukhari (5/2012), Fr Botros relayed an account where Muhammad went into the house of a young woman named Umaima bint Nua’m and commanded her to “Give yourself to me!” The woman responded, “Shall a queen give herself to the rabble?” Shaking his fist, Muhammad threatened her, and then sent her off to her parents.
Zakaria Botros: “You see, people, even back then, in those dark ages, there were still people who had principles, who did not give way to threats and coercion. However, the real question here is, why was Muhammad contradicting the commandments of his own Koran—“if a believing woman gives herself to the prophet” (33:50)—trying to coerce this young lady?”
Finally, with a most distasteful look on his face, the priest read from a hadith in al-Siyuti (6/395), where Muhammad asserts that, “In heaven, Mary mother of Jesus, will be one of my wives.”
“Please, O prophet,” quoth the Coptic Orthodox priest, “do not implicate our saints with your filthy practices…”
[Stay tuned for part IV of "The perverse sexual habits of the Prophet"]
Father Zakaria Botros on “The perverse sexual habits of the Prophet” Part V
“This is all from your own books, O Muslims!”
This being the continuation of Fr Zakaria Botros’ examination of Muhammad’s sexual morality (or lack thereof). See here for Part I, Part II, Part III, and Part IV.
Last we left the Coptic priest, he was discussing Muhammad’s predilection for menstruating women—even though the Koran itself (as Fr Botros put it, “his own words”) forbid men from getting near to menstruating women.
Here, the priest was interested in examining Muhammad’s faithlessness towards his wives (though one would have thought the plural renders the notion of faithfulness moot), his sexually exploitative behavior, and his reliance on very obscene language.
First, Fr Botros spent some time discussing the well known story where the prophet betrayed his wife Hafsa with a slave-girl (Unfortunately, one cannot capture the hilarity with which the priest recounted this tale.)
In short, after sending Hafsa to visit her father, the latter, halfway there, realized that it was “her day”—that is, the day when, of all his wives, Muhammad would visit her for “conjugal relations.” She hurried back (Fr Botros added “She knew him well: if she wasn’t there on her day, he would go crazy and grab the first female passing by!”).
In fact, Hafsa caught Muhammad with a slave-girl on the former’s bed. Muhammad quickly evicted the slave-girl and told Hafsa that if she kept this between them, he would henceforth refrain from the slave-girl.
To no avail: Hafsa gabbed and soon all of Muhammad’s wives revolted against his incessant philandering; As Fr Botros put it, “When things got critical, Muhammad decided to drop a ‘new revelation’ on them; so he threw surat al-tahrim (66: 1-11) at them, wherein Allah supposedly chastises Muhammad for trying to please his wives by not sleeping around, threatening the wives to get in line lest the prophet divorce them—indeed, lest they all go to hell.”
Then, looking at the screen, Fr Botros asked, “Imagine, dear lady, if your husband asked you to go on errand and then you return before your time only to find him in bed with another woman? What sort of man would that make him in your eyes? Yet it’s worse—it’s your prophet, whom you all extol as the most perfect human, to be slavishly emulated!”
He then pointed out that “clever little Aisha knew him [Muhammad] well”: whenever such verses were revealed rescuing Muhammad, Aisha would often observe that “Verily, your lord [Allah] is ever quick to fulfill your whims and desires (e.g., al-Siyuti v.6, p.629).
Next the priest relayed an account portraying how the prophet sexually exploited a “retarded” woman. According to 23 sources (e.g., Sahih Muslim vol.4, p.1812) a feeble-minded woman came up to Muhammad saying, “O prophet of Allah! I have something for you.” He clandestinely met her out back and took this “something” from her.
Added Fr Botros: “I fear now that many believers will want to implement this sunna—don’t do it, guys, this is just to illustrate…. Listen you Muslims: don’t hate me for revealing all this to you; don’t lie in wait to kill me. I am merely revealing what your books contain. And, as always, we humbly await the great sheikhs and ulema to address these issues and show us where we went wrong.”
Next, Fr Botros discussed the sort of foul language Muhammad — the “greatest example” — employed: “Sorry, so sorry to reveal to you the sort of despicable language Muhammad used—language I am too ashamed to even mention. In fact, your prophet said one of the most obscene Arabic words—the equivalent of the ‘f-word’ [he counseled his Arabic viewers to google the "f-word" to understand what he was talking about]. “
Refusing to pronounce or spell this word, which he said appears in 67 books, including Sahih Bukhari, the text containing this word, “inkat-ha” — or, in context, Muhammad asking a man about a woman if he “f***** her” — was portrayed on the screen for all to read.
Then, “Quick! take that filth down! What would you Muslims do if the Sheikh of al Azhar went around using such language? Worse — it’s your prophet, the ‘greatest creation.’”
The host asked if Muhammad used any other foul language, to which the priest responded, “Oh, boy, did he ever; unfortunately this program is way too short to list them all.”
According to Qaid al-Qadir (v.1, p.381), Muhammad told Muslims to retort to uppity infidels by saying things like — again, he didn’t pronounce it, but the text appeared on the screen — “Go bite on your mother’s clitoris!” or, according to Zad al-Mi’ad (v.3, p305), “Go bite on your dad’s penis!”
Then, once again while shaking his head in sheer disappointment, “O prophet of Allah…prophet of Allah….Would that you would’ve heeded your lord Jesus’ counsel: ‘The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks’ (Luke 6:45).”
[Stay tuned for part VI of "The perverse sexual habits of the Prophet"]
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We should support this man in any way we can. I am going to find out more about him.
Wow!
Balsy Copt!
If he’s Public Enemy #1 he could use some company!
Love this guy! There are so many brave people in the world.
Indonesia’s parliament last week passed a new information bill that criminalises the transmission of pornographic material on the web.
The ministry said the law was a response to concerns in society about the negative impact of pornographic and violent sites as more Indonesians gain access to the Internet.
Under the law, anyone found guilty of transmitting pornographic material, false news or racial and religious hate messages on the Internet could face up to six years in prison or a fine of 1 billion rupiah ($135,000).
“violent sites”?
Wow, Shiva – finally all the jihadi sites get banned./sarc off.
As for Father Zacharia – he seems to be popping up all over the ‘blogs lately.Good luck to him:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI6gErxo44I&feature=related
Father Zacharia Boutros, at last someone with credibility is finally speaking out about the Quran, and picking it to peices.
wake muslems i think if u r a authias god will forgive u more than muslems i think zakaria butros. was send 2 u from what the human call god 2 know that u wasting ur time following that mohamed .i hope u do something before it is to late .
He has guts all right. I’d like to be able to read (translations) more of his broadcasts ’cause I think WE need to know more about what Islam teaches if only to protect ourselves. Also, is there is some way to support him?
Could we look at this matter from another angle. The Holy Book is said to be the sayings of the Prophet to his tristed aides who apparently wrote the first book of the talks about 30 years after the ascension of the Prophet to Paradise!!!!
One can assume how much of the ‘sayings’ would have remained in the heads of the trusted ones after so many long years in the heat of the desert sun. If the Original book is not available, then it is remotely possible that numerous books and numerous writers wrote and re wrote the book. And Arabs being not overly concerned of reading and writing may have been palmed offf with various versions of the book written by the Caliph’s Trusted ones to meet the dictates of politic at the given time.
To which final book do the faithful now fall back on to decalre the correct version if in the path of history many versions were written as is the case with the Holy Bible and other so called holy texts of various religions.
Hence, in the light of these views is it not possible that the sex episodes attributed to the Prophet were planted by various scribes over the years to show that the Prophet was indeed a ‘mighty’ man amongst mortals.
However, hopefully, more brave men like Father Boutros would come out in the open to let the world at large have a good view of the ‘facts’.
(مقارنة الأديان ودعوة أهل الكتاب والرد على شبهاتهم وافتراءاتهم بالحكمة والموعظة الحسنة)
http://www.soutalhaq.net, and http://www.eld3wah.com, http://www.al-maktabeh.com
http://www.baladynet.net
(مقارنة الأديان ودعوة أهل الكتاب والرد على شبهاتهم وافتراءاتهم بالحكمة والموعظة الحسنة)
http://www.soutalhaq.net, and http://www.eld3wah.com, http://www.al-maktabeh.com
http://www.baladynet.net
Dear Truth Seekers,
You have to read the Bible, the Quran and compare, and then read the Authentic Biography of Prphet Muhammad, The Last Messenger of Guidance and Mercy to the Whole World regardless to sex, color, race, etc.
Also surf the following websites and be fair in your judgment.
Sincerely,
Angel of Mercy and Guidance
(مقارنة الأديان ودعوة أهل الكتاب والرد على شبهاتهم وافتراءاتهم بالحكمة والموعظة الحسنة)
http://www.soutalhaq.net, and http://www.eld3wah.com, http://www.al-maktabeh.com
http://www.baladynet.net
Dear Truth Seekers,
You have to read the Bible, the Quran and compare, and then read the Authentic Biography of Prphet Muhammad, The Last Messenger of Guidance and Mercy to the Whole World regardless to sex, color, race, etc.
Also surf the following websites and be fair in your judgment.
(مقارنة الأديان ودعوة أهل الكتاب والرد على شبهاتهم وافتراءاتهم بالحكمة والموعظة الحسنة)
http://www.soutalhaq.net, and http://www.eld3wah.com, http://www.al-maktabeh.com
http://www.baladynet.net
wake u christian countries before u will find muslims every where.they hate christian they want them to die????.in egypt they killed my ancestors and erase all christian belives.they hate u u can’t imagine what they want make in christian countries.they want to conquer it by generation and marriage?????
+god save u father zakaria+
I support you father Boutros! God bless and keep you!
WTG! I like this guy not holding back no fear. The righteous are as bold as a lion! :D
zakaria he is the bad man in the earth, he rip a young boy he go to jail for one year and he rip a little girl, again
ghassani ghassan
To the best of my knowledge Father Zakaria Butros has never accused of or been arrested for paedophilia. However he challenges the ruling muslims of the middle east both spiritually, intellectually and morally. Why do you claim he has committed these acts?
To Babylon 5 – I think Mr. Morden and colleagues wont the last elections in Iran!
One wonders if the following is night clb jihad
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8079531.stm
Dear Reverend Zakaria Butos,
I ish if you will view this amazing video and display it in your forthcomming presentation
http://www.islameyat.com/video_player.php?id=3138
thanks
GMI
@ All,
There is a lots of coverup in this religion. The gov try to protect this religion at all cost. No wonder this religion is not a religion per se but politicol-religio organization equavalent to Masonic. Be careful…
Thanks to the internet…no more coverup…Islam will be expose!
GBU Butros…
God bless you father.
The Muslims I have met are pretty decent people, but there are many who have immediately tried to convert me. I have never met any who were even remotely interested in finding out the teachings of Christianity, and in fact merely swallow without thinking all that they have learned as children, or have been told in the mosques. The day that critical thinking becomes a norm in Islam, that would be the beginning of the end of that most negative religion. Many Christians are sheeple, but Muslims beat them hands down.
John sez:
“The Muslims I have met are pretty decent people, but there are many who have immediately tried to convert me.”
Sheik sez: The Muslims I have met are pretty decent people, (in spite of Islam, not because of it) but there are many who have immediately tried to convert me.
That just about sums it up…
there is an evangalist on this blog who will always try and convert. John Bodden never obviously lived near a Jehovah Witness, 7th day Eventist or Mormon centre and had the entire weekend answering doorbells and people offering to knee in their kitchen and pray for them.
The reality is there are radicals in every religion and over the last 30 years it has been Muslims with guns.
Father Zakaria Botros sells books and makes money, he is rejected by his own faith as a radical, the Eastern Orthodox Churches except for Serbs have a good relationship and do not play the “hate-sells” routine of the likes of Botros.
Haha, back to smears, solker?
What makes him “radical”, Solk? How many Muslims did he behead, how many did he blow up in the name of his religion?
Why is he Islam’s “Public Enemy #1” according to the Arabic newspaper, al-Insan al-Jadid — with a huge price on his head?
Who scrambles like cockroaches when he turns on the light?
coming from the master of smears….LMAO. What did you call those who debate and question Fitzgerald and Spencer?
I guess since your the blog-owner your are allowed to……
The fanatics moslems are trying to kill this man, father Zakaria for 20 years. So far they achieve, ZERO. While father Zakaria brought MILLIONS of moslems to apostasy from the dark con of Muhammad to the truth.
Keep telling the truth about Koran, Mr. Boutros. God bless you always.
I have just copied your message brother Zakaria Bothos onto my Life is hid dot com which is a libary of teachings from what the good Lord has taught me these thirty years of ministry, and like you; as an older man, I have retired to a computer in isolation to preach the gospel over the Internet. My website is a library, so to find the message of yours, you would proceed to THE FIRST SELECTION, then to the WATCH OUT FOR WOLVES button, then to ISLAM, then to chapter 31. We hope you agree this promotes your message and gives proper honour to you whom we consider one of the foremost hero’s in world today. We are glad God Almighty raised you up to stand against the wickedness of Islam. May He keep you in good health for a good long time. Amen
If there is anything you need, please let me know by email.
‘GMI June 14, 2009 at 12:42 am
Dear Reverend Zakaria Butos,
I ish if you will view this amazing video and display it in your forthcomming presentation
http://www.islameyat.com/video_player.php?id=3138
thanks
GMI’
English sub-titles please.
Keep plugging away, Fr Zakaria, you’re doing a great job. But who will take your place if someone just “happens” to knock you off?
Did anyone know that:- http://sheikyermami.com/2008/03/30/coptic-priest-zakaria-boutros-exposes-the-philandering-muhammad/comment-page-1/#comment-218163
is no longer available?
Zakaria you are a liar and a loser. Very stupid man you zakaria. Islam will annihilate you. What dou want from the Muslims? why are u insulting their prophet?
in America you are not supposed to do and create lies.
Zakaria is not a liar, loser nor a stupid man.
islam can not annihilate him, if they would kill him, they’ll only make
him live forever more.
Muhammed is dead and therefor can not be insulted, on the other
hand Yehoshua ha Mashiach the manifestation of the living GOD Yahweh is alive and is insulted by many believers and non-believers nowadays, they will be dealt with upon His return on earth and at the
Judgment after the second resurrection.
In America one has the right to speak-out, to be heard and to disagree
but not the right to be not insulted.
one won’t agree with you, but one will defend your right to say it.
what you consider insults are mere observations.
tired of lies? turn to Yehoshua, Way, Truth and Life.
Dear Father Zakaria Boutros,
Ahmad Deedat has helped Muslims counter whatever criticism you levelled against Islam by using your bible.!! You are trying to do the same by TRYING to find contradictions in Quran.Please continue your effort but please do not mix what the Quran says with what humans say, for the Quran is not a portpourri of phonograpy, narrations and some few divine words like your bible, If you base your findings of contradiction using the bible as yardstick, YOU WILL FAIL EVERYTIME.
So why not accept the truth and be a muslim.
Dear Father Zakaria Boutros,
You are a God fearing man of religion , I expected you to play fair by allowing comments in your TheQuran.com I am a layman, not a Mullah nor an Ulama but God willing I can rebutt your assertions on Quranic contradictions anytime by using your own bible .Please be informed that 24 out of 27 contradictions you mentioned are all based on biblical history as a yardstick.You know and the world now knows howun reliable the bible is as far as historical and narrations are concerned.Narrations by unknown witness, unverified,stories that are nonsensical etc.
So be a gentleman, open your website for counter comments.
Dear Otman,
you may post your rebuttals here, I will forward it to father Boutros on your behalf. Keep in mind, however, that its Islam that’s being dissected here, not the bible. Islam is a lie and the truth is killing it.
Sheik, excellent reply.
Notice what he says here: “Please continue your effort but please do not mix what the Quran says with what humans say”
Our friend has nullified their ancient and official commentaries (Hadiths). These people are clueless.
Sheikyermami,
Thanks and no thanks,
Father Zakaria should open that site for comments.
His so called dissection of Islam is using the knife of doubt creation by creating so called discrepancies that do not exist and quoting COMMENTARIES by unknowns.
Please be informed that Quranic verses and human commentaries on the verses are two different things. We segregate Quran, Commentaries on Quran by humans, narrations on the utterance, actions and rulings of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh )(Hadiths ), Ijtihad ( opinions ) of Ulamas and consensus of opinions by Ulamas.
You have all these elements jumbled up in your book.I emphatize with you for it is not easy, in fact impossible to filter through the graphic phonography and narrations by unknowns to get to the divine facts.
Dear Otman,
I have been dealing with Islam & Muslims and Mohammedanism for over 40 years, I have learned all there is to learn about it, I have seen more than I wanted to see and I don’t want to see, hear or smell any more of it.
Mohammedanism is the most primitive, destructive and barbaric cult ever invented by a madman, a pedophile, slave-trader, serial rapist, mass murderer and genocidal lunatic.
Nothing, nothing about Mohammedanism is “divine”. Don’t insult my intelligence.
Mohammedanism has no redeeming features. Mohammedanism is Satanic, primitive and destroys cultures and civilizations far more advanced. 1400 years of genocidal history are undeniable.
We will fight and destroy you. You will not succeed in imposing your madness on us.
Let me at him, Sheik.
ben otman, you accuse Zacharia Botrous of this:
“His so called dissection of Islam is using the knife of doubt creation by creating so called discrepancies that do not exist and quoting COMMENTARIES by unknowns.”
Enlighten us. Which of them is an unknown? Please, list them for us so that we can take note as we are intently watching Botrous . You see, you won’t come up with a single name because you know as much as I do that his sources are credible, authoritative and true. As a matter of fact, what is eating away at you is that manner by which he’s exposing the true nature of your cult.
Botrous and now the Sheik, both know more about your cult than you ever wll. Ask yourself this question: what if I am wrong and they are right? You have a chance in this life to call on the Creator to reveal the truth for you. You owe it to yourself. You have come this far – go that extra mile to secure your eternal salvation through our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
Sheik yarmami ,No laughing matter et al.including father and mother Botrous,(Mother of defamations, nonsensical baseless accusations)
Dear All,
Father Zakaria stooped so low and degraded himself to the level of an emotional madman defaming God’s messenger.He misled himself and unfortunately is misleading others.Why attack the Messenger.? He tried to attack the Quran but failed.I said he failed because he has no guts to allow his The Quran.com site to receive comments on his baseless , and out of date accusations long practiced by the western Orientalists .It is crystal clear his aim is to cast doubts, and he will fail miserably.
This is my last post to his mislead followers, who cannot separate the chaff from the grains, the real facts from the fictions, God’s message in the Quran and bible from the Devil’s, academic open discussion to emotional, dogmatic pontification.
You people indeed do have ears but are deaf, with eyes but blind to truth, with mouth but conceal the truth.You are indeed followers of Roman emperor Justin who ordered your obeisance to trinity.My prayers to the earlier Christians who died defending God’s Unicity( Oneness )
Otman, do you know the meaning of projection?
You have offered no proof for anything you stated, but you made a few smears and a lot of false claims.
Islam is a lie and the truth is killing it.
“defaming God’s messenger”
Which “messenger” did he “defame”, and what was the “messenger’s” message?
The false prophet Mo preached another gospel, denying that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and denying His crucifixion, among other things. Thus the “messenger” is anathema, and likely to burn in hell forever, along with anyone gulled into believing his “message”.
“But if even we or an angel from Heaven should bring you a Good News different from that which we have already brought you, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8)
Do not follow false prophets (“messengers”). They are doomed.
Dear Other readers and web site owner,
If Father Zakaria is “kind ” enough to open up his The Quran.com and allow ‘rebuttals’ to his arguments against the Quaran, then all evidence will be provided.It must be noted that arguments must be limited to verses of the Quran—
not personal madman ramblings against the Messenger of God,human comments or some fairy tale and myth concocted against the messenger and his household,(Bait ),or due to some bad personal experience by some with so called muslims ( 40 years, eh? ) the letting out of vengeance thru fouled language.Let’s be civil about the whole thing.We love you but refrain from uncivilised character assassination
Web site owner ,Sorry , your web site is not the platform to provide the evidence.Father Boutros’s is! Please tell him that.
Otman,
There is nothing devine aboue the quran, the hadiths, or your pedophile prophet. Father Boutros is honest – you are not – he raises points that you cannot counter. Furthermore, in your stupidity you have failed to realise that this web site is for discussion. That is why muslims like you can have a say, although you have precious little to say. I see that you are now playing the victim card – what a joke!!! You are welcome to speak directly with the Father – and he certainly will have no fear of a debate with something like you!! It seems to be that you suffer from the common muslim “G_D” delusion – you fervently believe that pink is green because a pedophile from 7th Century Arabia wrote it down, after murdering a few hundred men and raping their wives. And as a consequence you are incapable of understanding any argument that runs counter to what your brain-washed mind can understand.
Sheik – please post the IP address associated with this muzz parasite – I think, from the structure and content of the mails it has sent, that we have a real brain-dead muzzie terrorist here. I need to know the location so I can contact appropriate authorities.