No, Mr Turnbull: Islam doesn’t have a “Golden Rule”

Turnbull can’t pretend Islam is just Christianity in fresh robes

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Speaking too frankly about Islam could alienate Muslims. Speaking too dishonestly about Islam could alienate non-Muslims, and make them fear they are being lied to by our leaders and journalists.

Denis Dragovich says Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull hasn’t got that balance right:


Despite dropping the death cult slogan, Malcolm Turnbull hasn’t kept true to his promise of explaining complex political ­issues to the public.

Research released last week by the Centre for Religion and ­Geopolitics found that 42 per cent of the three main Salafi-jihadist groups’ propaganda referenced the end of times. These groups, including Islamic State, have a theology that is centred on an apocalyptic view of the world, one in which humanity is counting out its final days. This world view is embraced because the life to come is of more value than the life we live today, which leads to a yearning for death — in other words, a death cult…

Similarly, the inevitable shutting down of debate by referring to Islam as a religion of peace is also damaging.

People who watch the news see Islamic fundamentalist violence around the world, from Boko Haram or al-Shabab in Africa to Islamic State and Jabhat al-Nusra, also known as al-Nusra Front, in the Middle East, or al-Qa’ida and the Taliban in South Asia. These groups openly and proudly justify their violence within the ideology of Islam. Yet people are told that Islam is a religion of peace. This creates a contradiction that must be explained, yet never is, leaving people with the choice of believing what we see or the slogans of commentators and politicians.

We need to move away from a head-in-the-sand approach of those who are afraid of engaging with the complexity of Islam and recognising the intelligence of the community.

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UPDATE

Here is an example of Turnbull’s soft-soaping:

Now, the key to that mutual respect is that it is a two-way street. Every religion, every faith, every moral doctrine, understands the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. 

That “Golden Rule” that Turnbull claims is common to all faiths is actually a quotation from the teaching of Christ, not Mohammad:

Luke 6:27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.

This is a central teaching of Christ and Christianity, echoed in the Parable of the Good Samaritan and Christ’s defence of the woman caught in adultery.

Can Islam be seriously said to be the same in that respect, with its message of submission and the killing or subjugation of non-believers? From the Koran:

5:33 “The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger … will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom.”

The “golden rule” of Islam is kill the unbelievers, rape their women and sell their children into slavery. (SY)
Take this difference.

Here is Christ on punishing adulterers:

John 8:7:  And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

Here is the Koran:

24:2 “The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse – lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah , if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.” 

The Koran and Hadith give repeated examples of Mohammad having his critics killed, even women who mocked him. There is no turning of the other cheek; no offering of his life. Christ would not even let his disciples fight to save him from capture and death.

Yet Turnbull would have you believe that Christ’s teaching is Islam’s, too. That Islam is just Christianity in new robes.

That is false.

UPDATE

A genuine fear that Muslim ideology is a threat to assimilation:

[A] survey on migration attitudes has indicated that almost one in two voters believes an increase in Muslim migrants has been “bad” or “very bad” for the nation. This compares with 8 per cent who think it has been “good” or “very good”, and 42 per cent who are neutral.

The survey findings [are] from a Brisbane-based think tank, the Australian Institute of Progress …  The hostility to Islamic ­migrants identified in the AIP research is most strongly felt among Liberal voters (75 per cent) and those who support minor parties other than the Greens (69 per cent). Among Labor and Greens voters, most respondents took a neutral position, but about 20 per cent said Islamic migration had been negative, and 15 per cent believed it to be positive.

AIP executive director Graham Young, a former campaign chairman for the Queensland Liberal Party, said he had been surprised at the depth of feeling uncovered in the survey. “There is a genuine level of concern,” Mr Young said. “People are in favour of immigration, so this is not, per se, xenophobia towards someone who does not have a European or Anglo-Saxon background. This is a specific group that we are specifically worried about.”

The qualitative survey, derived from questionnaires of almost 1400 people last November, cited concerns about a potential “clash of cultures” based on Islamic migrants holding beliefs that were not in line with widespread Australian values. Examples given from across the political spectrum included the perceived treatment of women and homosexuals, the wearing of the burka or niqab, and sharia law being incompatible with Australia’s legal system.

“There is a very strong feeling that immigrants from Islamic countries are part of a culture war pitting their way of life and beliefs against ours,” the report says.

8 thoughts on “No, Mr Turnbull: Islam doesn’t have a “Golden Rule””

  1. THE ERADICATION OF HISTORY.

    Savage and barbaric doesn’t quite cut it when describing the Muslim and the excrement of its Islam that it sees fit to smear on the civilized world.

    The destruction of Palmyra was just the most recent obscenity.

    There was the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamiyam before that.

    Let us not forget the invasion of Egypt and the torching of the Library of Alexandria at the command of Khalif Omar.

    I cannot begin to imagine the crimes of destruction that will be committed by the vile Muslims when they gain an upper hand in Europe. I cannot begin to imagine the priceless works of art, of historical documentation, of sculptures, of paintings and so very much more that will be burned, smashed and destroyed in order to satisfy the edicts of Europe’s new mass murdering owners.

    I am including a link to a sculpture of a lion carved into a cliff wall in Lucerne, Switzerland. The story is quite interesting and if you click twice on the photograph is will present itself in high-res.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_Monument

    Enjoy.

    Don Laird
    Alberta, Canada

    1. Here is one more work of art, a very very favorite of mine.

      Its Lucifer, carved by Guillaume Geefs.

      Again, click on the photograph for a high-res copy of the photograph and then read the story.

      Sad really, works of breathtaking, of moving and incredibly beautiful artistry, created by soulful and talented men and women, to be destroyed, wiped from the face of the earth.

      And all we will have left are dust and ashes, testaments to our cowardice and indifference.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_g%C3%A9nie_du_mal

      If you have an eye for detail, open the photograph to its high-res format and look for the subtleties indicative of the Prince of Darkness.

      I call this the “saddest picture” in world. A photograph of the rewards reaped from the sorry crop of self pity, wrath, vanity, pride, arrogance and envy sown.

      Enjoy

      Don Laird
      Alberta, Canada

  2. Turbull is an idiot savant – he knows nothing apart from law and merchant banking. He is so disconnected with average Australians is a travesty.
    To give you an idea of what pure evil people from Sydney have to live with, please read these:
    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/mustapha-dib-a-two-time-killer-before-the-age-of-18/story-fni0cx12-1227567056477

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3267937/Man-dies-having-throat-slit-Lakemba-Sydney.html

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-terror-battle-police-station-in-western-sydney-targeted/story-fni0cx4q-1227567541091

  3. Ali Sena on The Golden Rule and its lack in Islam

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/YaminZakariap8.htm

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina50428pt.htm

    Sheikh

    If there was such a thing as the Golden Rule in Islam, yoiu wouldnt be writing this blog, 9/11, 7/7, Mumbai. Beslan and the hundreds of atrocities just this year would never have occurred. Thousands of victims just this year, and their relatives, would not be victims, but leading a happy life.

    Islam is a curse on humanity. If Politicians think otherwise, should be shunned. Vote the bums out.

  4. DON

    Europe is chock a bloc full of artistic and architectural treasures that have no equal in scale and beauty. And our stupid, illiterate and ignorant politicians have allowed millions of oxen like pig ignorant destructive hordes of Muslims to enter a continent that is in effect a world class museum.

    1. @DP111

      Exactly my point.

      For a multiplicity of reasons, self preservation first and foremost, the removal of the Muslim from civilized countries is now taking on unprecedented priority and urgency.

      There has been talk of the formation of militias in Europe in order to do what our treasonous governments refuse to do. In reality the formation of militias under the command of cool headed competent currently serving or ex-military personnel is fast becoming our only solution.

      This said DP111, in any case, as the verminous Muslim is removed there must not be allowed the treasonous among us who allowed and promoted the infiltration of the Muslim in the first place the opportunity to fade into obscurity, to escape punishment for their crimes.

      From the chiefs of police, to senior politicians, to the lawyers in the legal industry, to the judges, to the academia, to the unseen bureaucrats and the senior administrators and editors in the Marxist Mainstream Media, each one must be identified with crippling particularity with respect to personal identification and location in order that patriots can locate and apprehend them and then stand them before military tribunals to face charges of high treason and sedition.

      There are those who are reading my comments and raising an eyebrow in disbelief.

      To those I say simply, 40 years ago, 25 years ago, even as little as 15 years ago, we were in a position to remove the cancer of the Marxist and Islamist without open and aggressive confrontation. That time has passed. Now the Muslim, enabled by the Marxist, smiles and openly and with complete freedom and impunity slaughters us at will on our streets and in our homes. It was and is our cowardice, our indifference and our delusional indecision that has squandered that window of opportunity. Now a much more vigorous course of action must be employed in order to effectively remove the cancer of Islam and its enablers the Marxists from our midst.

      This said, consider that in every country from Europe, to the United Kingdom to Australia to North America, the verminous Muslim has been using its opportunity provided by the preferential treatment it has received from government and law enforcement to stockpile weapons and explosives.

      I can almost guarantee that in every country hundreds and thousands of mosques and individual Muslim homes and businesses contain at least a minimum of 2 to 100 weapons. These would range from AK-47’s to M14’s and their civilian variants including Chinese and Russian models. Ammunition is readily available in case lots of 1000 to 2000 rounds and would no doubt be stockpiles in amounts of at least 1000 rounds per weapon stored. Explosives are easily obtained and range from military grade malleable explosives like C4 and Semtex to recovered explosive like Tritonal and others from artillery shells. All of these weapons and explosives can be supplemented with civilian hunting and sporting rifles as well as improvised explosive devices made from ANFO, flammable gases and liquids and simple gun powder.

      Concluding, the Muslim can be well armed within hours.

      Our law enforcement and intelligence agencies are well aware of this and still refuse to confront the lethal threat the Muslim poses to each country. As such it is no stretch to describe our law enforcement as treasonous cowards who are complicit with the orders of a highly treasonous government and judiciary.

      The reality is that an entire city the size of Canberra, Sydney, London or Paris, with an aggressive action executed over a 12 to 24 hour period, can easily be controlled with a force comprised of 200 highly motivated Muslims. Acts of subversion such as attacks, bombing and torching of refineries, power plants, hospitals, shopping malls, airports and water treatment plants would be indefensible by law enforcement. Largely poorly trained and cowardly, law enforcement in Western countries is easily neutralized by Muslims locating their homes and attacking their families, ambushing them on the streets and this coupled with a few shots fired at police stations would render the police confused, incapacitated and compliant.

      Subsequent open slaughter of a couple hundred civilians dragged from homes, retirement homes and hospitals or simply attacked and shot to death or beheaded in the street would ensure that the civilian population remained totally compliant with the Muslim demands. With mass social media most of these attacks would be broadcast on FaceBook, YouTube, Twitter and the like. Editorials would be futile and terror would spread like wildfire. In short, within hours of a coordinated attack, the city would be under complete and total Muslim control.

      For those of you who dismiss my description as fanciful I say you are the problem and the reason we face the Muslim in its current well armed state. Look around you, essentially we are a legion of defenseless indifferent cowards being led to slaughter by a collection of bumbling, treasonous, collaborative cowards and fools.

      To those of you who know what I’m talking about you understand that you must begin to identify, with detailed particularity, the location of each and every Muslim, Muslim business, mosque and Muslim enabler in all your cities and towns. This must be done in conjunction with the collection of equipment and supplies you will need to defend yourselves and your communities.

      Begin to organize amongst yourselves. Look for coolheaded, competent and determined ex-military or ex-law enforcement personnel. Beware of infiltrators and those whose sympathies lay with the Muslim and the Marxist. Hold training camps under the guise of weekend BBQ’s. Become extremely proficient with all materials and equipment at your disposal. Keep all existing law enforcement well away from your organizations. Begin to do this now.

      Finally, understand that this conflict with the Muslim and the Marxist will not be quiet and peaceful. Become comfortable with that fact, embrace it and prepare for it. Resolve that the Muslim and the Marxist must be dealt with in a manner that speaks of a final and unmistakable sense of permanence.

      The time has come for all of you to find your voices and your courage.

      Food for thought, catalyst for action.

      Don Laird
      Alberta, Canada

  5. Shitheads like Turnbull imagine the Golden Rule to be:

    “Go Along” (with criminal lies) “To Get Along” (with lying criminals)!

    In other words, to SUBMIT to extortion! Same as islam itself.

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