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* Robert Spencer:

If you speak honestly and accurately about the Islamic jihad doctrine and the Islamic supremacist agenda, and even confine your case entirely to quotes from authoritative Islamic sources and spokesmen, you will still be accused of “hating Muslims.” This is the constant refrain of apologists for jihad and their useful idiots in the West — and they constantly have recourse to it because they know that it is effective: it turns the Left and much of the squishy Right away from the message of the “hater,” regardless of how outlandish and unjust the charge is.

Myself, I don’t hate Muslims. I love Muslims. Telling the truth is not an act of hate. I am not “Islamophobic,” I am Islamorealistic. I tell the truth about Islam and work to defend Western civilization and society from the encroachments of a legal and societal system that oppresses Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

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Multicultural Europe and its suicide

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ukinfidels2Finsbury Park Mosque, London 2002

Are you willing to defend your freedom?

*  Fight against sharia: “Sharia is Hate”

Unlike refugees from Nazism, or Communism, who hated Nazis and hated Communists, and wanted only to escape from them and, in many cases, to actively work against them, the so-called “refugees” or simply immigrants from Muslim lands bring with them, in their mental baggage, Islam itself. They do not realize that it is Islam, with its inshallah-fatalism and natural support for depotism as opposed to advanced Western democracy (for the belief-system locates legitimacy not in the expressed will of the people, but in the will expressed by Allah in the Qur’an, as glossed by Hadith and Sira). They carry the belief-system with them, and what is more, attempt – not without success — to spread it about, to make sure that the numbers of adherents of Islam grow and grow and grow. It is this Da’wa, and demographic conquest that is the result of fantastic, utterly unchecked Muslim migration, and the great disparity in birth-rates between Muslims (who often smuggle in plural wives, supported by Infidel taxpayers in their generous welfare payments), and the indigenous non-Muslims, that has, for example, caused the 15,000 Muslims in Holland in 1970 to become 1 million, or 5-7 million Muslims now to burden the educational and justice systems, and the welfare benefits, and the laic state, and social peace, in France, and England, and Germany, and everywhere that Muslims in large numbers have been permitted to settle — which has led, no clear-sighted Infidel can deny, to a situation far more unpleasant, expensive, and physically dangerous — and becoming more unpleasant, more expensive, more physically dangerous every day — for the indigenous Infidels.
This must stop. This suicidal policy cannot continue.

Guessing the religion of those who plant bombs, hi-jack planes, fire into crowds of civilians, take hostages and murder hostages is the world’s ultimate no-brainer. And yet our leaders, the media and many of us pretend there’s no connection between psychopathic killers and the religion which exalts the slaughter of unbelievers. Islam remains what it was at its beginning, a violent, expansionist faith that will tolerate no competitors. What other religion has the concept of jihad, the notion that if you die fighting for allah you get 72 virgins in paradise? Mohammed started by eliminating the competition, annihilating Jewish tribes in the Arabian Peninsula. More than a 1000 yrs later, it’s still business as usual for his successors. Is islam a religion of peace? Is there an Easter bunny? Can pigs fly? Calling for a war on terror is like trying to stop the bullets instead of stopping the people who are doing the shooting, decades of terror and they still dont get it. Any religious creed that promotes terrorism as a method for the conversion of infidels deserves only contempt and needs to be mocked, crushed, and expelled from the lands it has silently infiltrated. The war is, and needs to be identified without question, against islam and their numbers and attitude warrant exceptional attention…

Hugh Fitzgerald

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So-called dialogue with the Islamic world and relativism regarding marriage, the dignity of women, and sexual equality in the name of multiculturalism is destroying European identity and doing away with womens rights.

Thursday, March 08, 2007
By Samir Khalil Samir

The ideology of multiculturalism, i.e. blind tolerance toward any culture and tradition, is destroying European identity and is above all doing away with human rights and, more specifically, women’s rights. A prime example is the increasing tolerance in European countries toward polygamy.

In theory, polygamy is prohibited in Italy and in Europe. But it increasingly happens, in the name of multiculturalism, that Muslim immigrants are registered as polygamists in the European continent: if a man is Muslim and married in his country of origin with 4 wives, we cannot but accept this as a given. All this goes against European laws and constitutions – which affirm monogamous families – but, in the name of a misplaced respect for cultures, any solution is deemed acceptable.

Tolerance for polygamy?

In Italy, some constitutionalists are suggesting, for the sake of letting people have it both ways, that only one wife be recognized as such, while the others are considered concubines: this would settle the situation of various Muslims who already have a wife in their country of origin and take another in Italy. Others think that a distinction could be made between civil marriage (at City Hall, with just one wife) and religious marriage in a mosque, where polygamous marriages could be celebrated. Naturally, to do this, they are proposing that the articles of Italian civil law, which affirm monogamy and the equality of men and women, not be read. A similar trend is spreading in Greece. In certain areas where Muslims are the majority, the government has accepted the principle that they manage themselves with their own norms. And so, in Athens, polygamy is prohibited, but in Muslim-majority areas, it is allowed, again in the name of cultural respect.

Multiculturalism is doing a lot of damage. Firstly to common sense: if a man is married in Senegal with a woman and in Italy with another, this cannot be defined as monogamy. A crime remains such whether it is committed in Italy or abroad. Such tricks are actually a way to suggest loopholes for polygamy. Thus, if an Italian wants to have more than just one wife, all he needs to do is to convert to Islam!

But multiculturalism is above all damaging to the dignity of women. Polygamy in Italy is prohibited in that it is contrary to the principle of equality between men and women. It would be useful to Islam too to affirm this principle. In Islamic society, in fact, women cannot be polygamous (only men have that “right”). The same is true for repudiation, which is permitted to a man, but not to a woman who, however, can ask her husband the favour of repudiating her. Affirming monogamy is thus the way forward on the path for an overall effort in favour of women’s rights.

The Imam of Vénissieux and women

To understand the humiliation in which women live in the Islamic world, I would like to recall a fact that sparked much debate in France. Last February 20th, the courts definitively rejected an appeal made by Imam Abdelkader Bouziane. An Algerian-national, Sheikh Abdelkader, imam of the mosque of Vénissieux, near Lyon, a polygamist and father of 16 (sixteen) children (14 of which French citizens) had been living in France since 1980.

He had been ordered on February 26, 2004, to leave the country by Interior Minister Sarkozy, for his inflammatory speeches and for incitement to hatred, but the ordinance was not enforced. On April 20, following an interview in the “Lyon Mag” newspaper, he was again served an expulsion order for his statements against women, in particular for having said that “the Koran authorizes a Muslim, in certain cases, to beat his wife,” that women must subjugated themselves to their husband and were not equal to men.

On April 23rd, the administrative tribunal of Lyon suspended the expulsion ordinance and rejected the Interior Ministry’s request. The imam went back to France in May 22. On October 5, 2004, the State Council cancelled the expulsion suspension, and the next day the iman was again expelled to Orano in Algeria. On June 21, 2005, the Lyon court declared him once again free, but on October 14, he was convicted in absentia. The imam filed an appeal, but on February 6, 2007, the courts definitively rejected his case.

The “Régards de femmes” Association of Lyon, which had sued the imam, declared: “The right to dignity, to respect, to the integrity of her body belongs to every woman in France. It will not be possible from now on to legitimize violence against women on the pretence of religion.”

The Imam’s interview

here are a few extracts of the (famous) interview with Sheikh Abdelkader on the male-female relationship.

In your opinion, are women equal to men?

No. For example, women do not have the right to work alongside men, as they [women] could be tempted by adultery.

Must women necessarily be subjugated to men?

Yes, because the head of the family is always a man. But he must be fair to his wife: he must not beat her for no reason, nor consider her a slave.

Is this why you are favourable to polygamy?

Yes, a Muslim can have more than one wife. But not more than four! Plus, there are conditions.

But why can women not have more than one husband?

Because no one would know who fathered the children!

Are you in favour of the stoning [1] of women?

Yes, because beating one’s wife is allowed by the Koran, but under certain conditions, in particular if she betrays her husband. Please note however: the man does not have the right to beat her everywhere: not on the face, but in the lower parts, her legs, her stomach, her bottom. He can beat her vigorously so as to induce fear, so that she does not start again!

The Koran: wife beating is allowed

Various readers were up in arms, but in the end the imam defended himself saying that this is the Koran. And he’s right. If we open the Koran at Sura 4, verse 34, we can read:

“Men have authority over women due to the preference that Allah concedes to them over the other and because they spend their property [for women]; Good women are therefore obedient, guarding under secrecy that which Allah has preserved [sex]. [2] ; As for those on whose part you fear insubordination, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do nothing further against them; Allah is high and great.”

Last week on Al Jazeera, I heard another imam explain the four conditions for beating a wife: not on her face; without drawing blood; without breaking bones; not in the presence of children. If all this is insufficient, one must resort to extreme punishment, i.e. the man deprives his wife of sexual relations.

The Koran is also explicit on the question of the superiority of men to women; according to the Koran, Charter 2 (The Cow), Verse 228:

“Divorced women should keep themselves in waiting for three periods; and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allah has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have priority to take them back during this time if they wish for reconciliation; and they [women] have rights equivalent to their duties, on the basis of good custom, but the men are superior. Allah is Mighty, Wise.”

The Italian edition published by the Union of Islamic Communities and Organizations in Italy (UCOII) includes a long footnote (absent on the on-line version) on the phrase “but men are superior”:

“In a pitiful effort to standardize Islam to Western culture, certain modernist commentators have written that superiority has only to do with the right of men to repudiate their wife, a faculty which is not reciprocal. In reality, it is a much more important and fundamental matter for the maintaining of balance at the individual, family and social levels.

“Man and Woman are two complementary realities that exist unto each other. If this were not so, Allah (glory be to Him the Most High) would not have formed Eve from Adam’s rib, he would have furnished each gender with complete reproductive organs, etc., etc.

“The physical structure of men is capable of great exertion and significant exploits, that of women, of steady labour and great endurance of pain.

“Male sensitivity is entirely exterior, projected outside the realm of family and tends to become public and political. That of women is interior, careful of oneself, aimed at the protection of that which has been acquired and to the acquisition of simple means of sustenance and security.

“Male psychology is imaginative, creative, experimental, risk-loving, desirous of novelty, of affirming the Self, usually ample and superficial. That of women is concrete, traditional, risk-hating, desirous of certainty, of conserving what is “mine”, usually profound and limited.

“In the realm of family, the respect of the Laws of Allah and of the Sunna of the Messenger can create situations that require an affirmation of power that mortifies the complementarity of spouses. But apart from complementarity, there is the problem of leadership, in the family and in society, which does not mean predomination, oppression or the lack of recognition of female predominance in a number of sectors and circumstances. Allah (Glory be to Him, the Most High) assigns this management role to the male. It is an onerous and difficult task that men would often willingly do without, and for which he must respond before Allah.”

This apologetic comment, written by an Italian converted to Islam, mirrors the opinion of traditionalistic ulemas, avoiding their excesses. It assigns specific tasks to men and to women, tasks which are unchangeable because determined by God, which claim to correspond to the nature of one and the other. It is obvious that such a distribution of roles, established by God for eternity and valid for all times and cultures, is hardly compatible with Western mentality and is often incompatible with the laws and constitutions of Europe.

Conclusion

Is it possible to accept this teaching in the name of the respect for cultures and religious tolerance? This is the serious question faced by all Western countries.

I don’t know if the flag-wavers of multiculturalism realize how much human damage they cause. Actually, it is increasingly clear that so-called multicultural tolerance is only acquiescence to a subtle form of racism. In the name of cultural difference, in fact, everything is left to proceed on parallel tracks, without envisaging any progress, integration or betterment in the name of human dignity.

It is time for Europe to understand that religious law cannot prevail over civil law and that, above every form of tolerance, there is a country’s constitution. If this does not happen, Islam will be given carte blanche to colonize our customs.

NOTE :

1) The imam, who had lived in France for 24 years, did not understand the word “stoning”, which he understood to mean “beating”. Hence, his reply.

2) In UCOII’s translation, generally attributed to Hamza Piccardo (Imperia, 1994), the following note can be read “This is the ideal of the believing woman: ‘patient and modest.’ Says the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): “The best of women is she who rejoices at your gaze, obeys you, guards her person and the property of the husband in his absence.”

Was Muhammad a Sex Maniac?

From the Hadith:

Muslim (8:3309) – Muhammad married Aisha at the age of nine.

Bukhari (62:18) – Aisha’s father, Abu Bakr, wasn’t on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.

Muslim (8:3311) – The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad’s house (something to play with when the “prophet” was not having sex with her).

Bukhari (6:298) – Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.

Muslim (8:3460) – “Why didn’t you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she could sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?” Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an “older woman” instead.

Bukhari (4:232) – Muhammad’s wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it’s a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.

Bukhari (6:300) – Muhammad’s wives had to be available for the prophet’s fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.

Bukhari (62:6) – “The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives.” Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally – and it isn’t hard to guess why.

Bukhari (5:268) – “The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number.” I asked Anas, ‘Had the Prophet the strength for it?’ Anas replied, ‘We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.’ ”

So let me summarize:

Even if we accept a 54 year old man marrying a child, raping captured (non-believing) woman what does that make him?

Even we accept the unacceptable, what do you call a guy who rapes captured women and sells them into slavery?

Even if we accapt all that, what do you call a guy who has sex with 14 women in one night?

Here’s more:

The Sex Life of the Prophet

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Some of many jihad verses:

Qur’an:2:216 “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you , though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not.” [Another translation reads:] “Warfare is ordained for you.”

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Qur’an:8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

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Qur’an:8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”

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Bukhari:V4B52N44 “A man came to Allah’s Apostle and said, ‘Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad in reward.’ He replied, ‘I do not find such a deed.’”

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Bukhari:V1B2N25 “Allah’s Apostle was asked, ‘What is the best deed?’ He replied, ‘To believe in Allah and His Apostle Muhammad.’ The questioner then asked, ‘What is the next best in goodness?’ He replied, ‘To participate in Jihad, religious fighting in Allah’s Cause.’”

Arguing, debating with Muslims:

They will say:

1. He’s taking verses out of context
2. He’s an Islamophobe/racist/bigot
3. He doesn’t know Arabic, and you can’t understand the Qur’an unless it’s in Arabic
4. He’s not an expert on Islam/he has no credentials
5. The Qur’an, the mind of Muhammad, and Islam in general are too complex and mysterious for infidels to understand
6. What about the Crusades (and other violent Christian actions of the past)?
7. What about the violent verses in the Bible?
8. Those Muslims are not “real” Muslims
9. Only Muslims can address the tough topics
10. He’s lying
11. If you prove him wrong from Qur’an and Hadith, you just get ridiculed
12. He has been refuted hundreds of times, and thoroughly discredited

Muslims are hopeless. They can’t debate because Islam doesn’t make sense. They are victims of a senseless indoctrination program that devours them and their perceived enemies. More

Is Islam a Religion of Peace? Not!

The day after 9/11, President George W. Bush made the absurd statement that Islam is a religion of peace.  Ponder the findings of a monumental study of the Islamic Trilogy, the Quran, the Hadith, and the Sira published in 2007.  The study was made by Bill Warner, director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam:

  1. Of more than 153,000 words in the Koran, only 4,018 or 2.6 percent seem to express goodness to humanity, qualified, however, by obedience to Muhammad.
  2. The words of Allah are only about 17 percent of the Islamic Trilogy, but the words and actions of Muhammad comprise 83 percent of the Trilogy.
  3. About 20 percent of the most authoritative school of the Hadith is about jihad.
  4. At least 75 percent of the Sira is about jihad.
  5. There are 146 references to hell in the Quran, only 6 percent of which concern moral failings such as murder and theft.  The other 94 percent of the reasons for being in Hell are for the intellectual sin of disagreeing with Muhammad, a political crime.

Warner concludes:  there is no benevolence toward good nonbelievers in Islam. Moreover, and, contrary to what Obama said in Cairo, there is no golden rule in Islam that restricts what Muslims may do to non-Muslims. This places a big question on Islamic monotheism

Open Season on British Women (The Opinionator)
Now that Europe has imported a 7th century values system and given it top priority, the continent’s women will need to remember to cover up.

Debating Islam (Answering Muslims)
A four-part video series of a debate between David Wood and Sami Zaatari. The subject is “Is Islam a Religion of Peace?” (As usual, Sami’s job is to pretend that Islam has nothing to do with what is done in the name of Islam each and everyday).

Poll: Muslim Support for Terrorism Declines (Pew Research)
Muslims are less likely to support terrorism when THEY are the targets of such attacks. Thanks to recent al-Qaeda sprees in Islamic countries, bin Laden is barely pulling 50% approval ratings. Religion of Peace, indeed!

Child Rape and the Religion of Peace (CNN)
(Video) Parents express shock that their child is raped after being “married off,” but then tell the girl that she belongs to her husband.

Sex in the Islamic City (FrontPage Magazine)
An ex-Muslim explains why Muhammad’s religion has been so successful in motivating young Muslim men to become “martyrs.”

We are Losing Europe to Islam (TownHall.com)
As a side note – If Europe goes Muslim, then where will the Muslims who have “fled” there have to flee next?

Our “Ally” Islamabad (The Australian)
One of America’s best buddies is in the process of becoming the world’s first nuclear-armed Sharia state.

Jihad for Love (FrontPage Magazine)
A new film exposes the very real persecution of homosexuals under Islam that goes far beyond mere disapproval.

‘She Doesn’t Want to be Called an Uncircumcised Girl’ (LiveLeak)
Video of female genital mutilation. Seriously, does this look natural?

Britain Adopts Sharia (Chronicles Magazine)
A must-read piece from Srdja Trifkovic.

When Someone Says You Shouldn’t Watch Something. . . (JSOnline)
. . . react accordingly. In this case, the film in question is the excellent documentary, Obsession: Radical Islam’s War against the West.

The al-Aqsa Myth (Europe News)
Just one more example of Islam’s attempt to borrow legitimacy from someone else’s religion.

(Joke) India vs. Pakistan at the UN (The Kashmir)
A bit of inside humor regarding the “disputed” region to which Pakistan lays claim.

Female Genital Mutilation in Eritrea (BBC)
Muslims in some parts of the world are beginning to realize that Allah wouldn’t have made the clitoris in the first place if he meant for it to be cut off. Women elsewhere. . . not so lucky.

Jordan’s Outreach to Hamas (JCPA)
The bonds of Islam are simply too strong to let a little thing like terrorism spoil relationships.

Gave Peace a Chance (Jerusalem Post)
A Peace Now activist in Israel reluctantly admits that his country has no peace partner in the Middle East.

No Longer One Law for All (Spectator)
“Sharia law is not compatible with English law or the principles of equality and human rights that it embodies.”

Fear and Fiction (FrontPage Magazine)
The story behind the story that was deemed too hot to handle.

Losing My Religion – Continued (Islam Watch)
The second piece to the story of a Muslim who decided that believing for the sake of believing wasn’t making much sense anymore.

From Magna Carta to Sharia: Britain’s Decline (Brussels Journal)
Labour has worked hard to give the cancer a foothold.

Islam and the Barbary Pirates (Islam in Action)
How did the Tripoli ambassador justifiy the plundering of ships and the enslaving of innocent people to Thomas Jefferson? Let’s just say the man knew his Qur’an.

Fleeing Malaysia (Islamist Monitor)
Only a few short years ago, the young country of Malaysia was held up as proof that a Muslim majority didn’t necessarily mean discrimination against other religions. Wonder what it means now?

Street Warfare in Denmark (The Opinionator)
More Islam – less peace.

Wildcatting for Allah (Max Flack)
Somalis in Colorado demand special privileges for themselves, but how do they treat other religions back home?

Islam at Face Value (Europe News)
A lot of insight into Islam can be gained from the first few verses of the Qur’an. Unfortunately, little of it is good.

The Hatred within Britain (The Telegraph)
These investigators were shocked to find that hatred exists within British mosques. Other than that, there’s nothing humorous in this article.

Honor Killings in Islam (FSM)
“What kind of an ideology causes a man to show no remorse for murdering his own daughter, but then rant and rave at being served ham sandwiches while in prison?”

Fighting for the Right to Incite Murder (Pajamas Media)
The Muslim Student Union is fighting hard to keep hate alive.

The Islamic Suicide Bomber

Dead Mumbai Headbanger
“Sharia Is Hate”

By Supna Zaidi
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, October 06, 2008

Imagine Dodger Stadium full of loud and whooping fans cheering on, not baseball, but your weekly stoning and flogging of adulterers, thieves and other errant citizens of southern California.

This is America under Islamic law, or Shari’a, a system that everyone should fear. Or so, Alan Kornman, director of the United American Committee (UAC) thinks. He continues to fundraise for a freeway billboard in Florida stating, “Shari’a Is Hate,” to educate America before it’s too late.

As Kornman argues, “under Shari’a law if you are accused of stealing, a hand and foot from opposite sides are amputated. If you are caught having an affair, the woman is stoned to death and the man is given 80 lashes. If you change religions, you can be charged under apostasy laws and given the death sentence by a legal Sharia court.”

The implementation of Shari’a is much more subtle than the quotation from Kornman suggests, however.

Through Shari’a, Islamists govern the private lives of individuals as well as regulate the social, political, and economic aspects of society. Islamism crosses national borders, with the final goal of asserting the Muslim ummah globally, with all non-Muslims as second class citizens. It is a totalitarian ideology, and Islamists do want to make Europe and the US Islamist states.

Don’t wait for floggings in your local neighborhood. Consider the following incidences:

1. Muslim cab drivers in Minneapolis refusing fares where would-be passengers are carrying alcohol because it is a sin to drink in Islam:

This first example exemplifies the lack of tolerance Islamists have for non-Muslims. It is one thing to believe drinking is a sin; it’s quite another to enforce your opinion on others. Muslims aren’t alone in this belief. Consider Mormons, who don’t drink coffee because of the caffeine. The problem is the belief that you have the right to impose your opinion on people of a different faith, or no faith at all.

The Metropolitan Airport Commission (MAC), possibly fearing charges of discrimination, tried to compromise and approached Kahlid Elmasry of the Muslim American Society, who sided with the cabbies: “it is expressly stated transportation of alcohol for Muslims is against the Islamic faith, and therefore forbidden.”

But this is not an Islamic country. The Constitution governs us, not Shari’a. Therefore, Elmasry’s defense of the cabbies’ position reinforced their notion that Islamic law trumps American secular law.  In a later lawsuit, the cabbies lost and intend to appeal.

2. Niqabi fails to reveal face for ID purposes.

The second example concerns Muslim women and modesty. While there is no specific definition of what modesty entails in the Quran, Islamists increasingly demand the niqab, which covers a woman’s body, hair, and her face. Islamists refuse to concede that the niqab is not a requirement of Islam, but greatly debated among Muslims. Yet, when Americans raise security concerns, Islamists call them racist.

Consider, Sultana Freeman, a niqabi in Florida. She refused to remove her veil for picture identification purposes at the DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) citing modesty. In reality, she mocks any reasonable person’s definition of modesty since ID pictures have nothing to do with attraction and sexuality, completely ignoring Florida’s right to identify its citizenry for the sake of public safety.  Such blind adherence to Shari’a rather than the laws of the state exemplifies the disdain Islamists have for non-Muslims wherever they may live as well as common sense.

3. Polygamy in America

United States are obligated to perform their duties within the limits of American secular law. Yet, some Imams, like Siraj Wahhaj, prefer to ignore American law where it conflicts with Islamic law. Wahhaj stated in Paul Barrett’s 2007 book American Islam* that, “If a man can have a hundred girlfriends, and it’s legal, I don’t say you can’t have more than one wife.”

Rather than explain what is wrong with men having multiple relationships, Wahhaj greenlights it under the guise of polygamy despite American law against it. This is because he only sees relationships from a usurious male perspective when he should be teaching men to see women as equals and partners. Moreover, he ignores a woman’s perspective entirely. Subsequent wives have no legal rights. Family problems, domestic abuse, combined with economic dependency, forces women to remain silent when issues arise.

Wahhaj also ignores the criminal fraud behind polygamy as well. The UKCanada, like theUS, face welfare fraud every time polygamous marriages are made. Subsequent wives live in a marital household, yet can file for welfare as single women because they failure to register the marriage. The failure to register is not an accident. Polygamous couples know that if they file they will be arrested for violating local bigamy laws. Second, these couples realize the financial advantages given current welfare policy. Such fraud is occurring in the thousands and is a burden to all taxpayers.

It is time for policymakers to realize that Sharia is a system of hate and must not gain any influence in American society. It denigrates women, non-Muslims and the US Constitution. Policymakers must define the limits of religious accommodation in light of the Islamist agenda. Otherwise, democracy and true tolerance will be mere words with no meaning as Islamism spreads in the West.  The UAC billboard is a good start in bringing the danger of Sharia to the nation’s attention.

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Sachchidanand Dhar April 18, 2009 at 12:47 am

It is insisted- by scholars of Islam- that The Holy Book’s translations are not valid. Only the original should be read, and followed.
Since many Moslems all over the world, and even current day Arab Moslems, do not understand the Arabic language of the times which has been used in The Quran Sharif; it leaves a gap in theory and practice of this seemingly simple and correct approach.
Moslems begin to depend upon the scholars to interpret the book. Scholars all over the Islamic World have differences- so various interpretations of the same provisions exist.
This problem should be solved, and one unified interpretation should be brought out.
If it is difficult to achieve- then at least universally accepted translation should be brought out in each of the languages-which is used by current Moslems.
Reading the original is not sufficient. Understanding the original Book in one’s language is equally important.
I do not see any hope for an unified interpretation in near future anywhere; but at least an universally accepted translation should be possible.
Thanks

A Muslim May 1, 2009 at 12:30 am

Racist pictures, racist comments… That makes you better than the extreme muslims that hate you?
There is a very small doubt in your chest saying that you are being unfiar. Listen to it. I know most contributers to this site are the sh1t that settles on a pig’s rectum. But a furious muslim like myself has chosen not to point fingers at every westener, because youre not all the same.
I am furious beyond the urge to take action…I’ll just wait for the day that offenders burn.

Ayan May 1, 2009 at 9:58 pm

What a silly article, obviouslty a work of someone bent on defaming, rather than educating. A simpleton could put Zaidi in his place. A billboard villifiying a religion… lets see, the Nazi’s did that… they had posters of big nosed Jews all over Berlin, and we all know what that lead to. Please stop the hate and fear mongering of a population that, as a religion, has the lowest kill rate than any other religion in the 20th Century.

kaw May 1, 2009 at 11:06 pm

Sorry Ayan – Islam has the highest kill rate – we are talking about killing in the name of religion – not wars driven by politics, etc. Do try and get your facts straight!!!! Islam is number one in this respect – and that is about all that it does well. And again “A Muslim” – islam is not a race. Aryan, just so that YOU understand – the mistrust that the behavior of a significant minority of the muslim community has brought on the whole muslim community will only fade away when islam actually behaves like a religion of peace! It is up to you to change and since what you do is your choice you WILL live with the consequences.

kaw May 2, 2009 at 12:06 am

A Muslim,
You know what make me angry – and it is certainly not someone like you throwing insults which makes you rather pitiable actually, it is the fact that you have kept your mouth SHUT when every new muslim atrocity hits the news. I keep a very close eye on your community, a very close eye (and not only through the internet), and I have not seen you contribute anything that can be even remotely described as a statement against the more extremist behavior of your co-religionists. When you stand up to the thugs that kill in the name of your religion you will have earned the right to claim that I (we) are being unfair to you personally, and I (we) will happily and sincerely apologise. Until that time shut the fuck up! You want to be treated with respect – then learn to treat others with respect. And there is absoluitely NO DOUBT in my chest that I ma being unfair – You people were

Haroon May 4, 2009 at 3:23 am

SY….
I’m not here to condemn your site, or to give you a hate speech etc….
I’d just request you to stop doing what you do (not that you’d stop doing, just ‘cos I said so); what you are doing here is creating hate.

Do you really think that you’re speaking about Islam? Is Islam alllll about ‘jihad’? Have you thought about the contexts on the jihad? or is it just kill-kill-kill? Havent you ever come across anything else on Islam?

I’m sure you’d have a reply for all of it (I’m not looking for a reply)

If you hate Islam, be straight-up on it. Why HURT other muslims? We respect other views, its just that we dont accept it

Let me tell you that you’re only hurting yourself both in this world and hereafter.

-Hope for the best
:haroon

Athena May 4, 2009 at 6:59 am

After reading the comments above from the muslim posters, all I can say is that you need to fight polygamy, honor killing and terrorism wherever you find it. It does no good to complain about what others say-you must put your actions behind what’s right. We all know that most muslims are good, decent people-it is those who are radical and extreme who must be stopped.

Zubair May 5, 2009 at 9:59 pm

Hay you son of a Bitch. you coward if you are really son of one father then face the muslim people directly. this all your crab shows your mother slept with how many men to bring you to this world. yes we muslim wants to marry four women because we can satisfy them not like your fathers who fail to satisfy you mother.
mail me personally if you have courage.

waqas May 6, 2009 at 2:04 am

someone said theres a limit of wisdom but they can neva be a limit of stupidity, motherfuker if u got balls say something direct u pieace of jealoused shit. n look at all those ppl writing comments without a name are right pussies as well tut feel sorry for u dumb fuks.
agree with brothers ricky, a muslim and zubair.

nasrallah May 17, 2009 at 5:53 pm

Fuk yermami u fukface. coward

kaw May 17, 2009 at 6:28 pm

Sheik,
This site seems to be attracting the real muslim intelligentsia here!!!!

Nice to see Zubair, waqas and nasrallah showing us the cream of islamic evolution.

The question is:
What possibly can these “gentlemen” contribute to our societies??? Murder, rape, intolerance — the list is really endless.

Haroon, if you wish no adverse comment on your belief system then you should first perhaps advise “people” like zubair and co. on how to behave in a civilised world. The comment muslims attract derives directly from muslim actions – there is NO other source – and if muslims have really shown an ability to live in peace with others this web site would not exist. This simple fact has been stated over and over, but you and your co-religionists are either unwilling or incapable of understanding this simple concept.

Zubair – if you wish to threaten someone do it to their face – then they can beat the shit out of you if that is required. Oh, and I doubt very much that you can even satisfy yourself sexually with your left hand – let alone four women. I would bet that your pet goat is always rather concerned come evening time.

Waqas, You demonstrate most ably that there is no limit to stupidity.
No one is jealous of you ! Why would we be jealous of you? You are violent, uneducated, not terribly intelligent, and you cannot spell. You are unable to perceive that the almost universal mistrust and hatred of muslims comes as a direct consequence of what muslims do to others. You have been beaten every time that you have risen to threaten the peaceful citizens of this world, and since it is clear that you and your ilk are incapable of learning this will happen again. There is a war coming – a war of your making – and when the ashes have settled you and your kind will be extinct.

Tamar Sternthal May 20, 2009 at 8:59 am

As a result of CAMERA’s correspondence with AP, the wire service corrects a photo caption which falsely stated that a Palestinian protester with his hands help up in the air has “passed out” from tear gas fired by Israeli troops.

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=2&x_article=1676

Andrew J. June 6, 2009 at 3:04 am

You’re a disgrace to this race – I’m ashamed we belong to the same species you racist excuse for a human being.

Mullah Lodabullah June 6, 2009 at 7:03 am

Thank you, Tamar – that “passed out” palestinian picture looked staged to me at the time, and was the cameraman wearing a gas mask, or unaffected by the “teargas”?

Umar June 9, 2009 at 5:29 am

A’uzobillahiminash-shaitaanirrajeem. (I seek refuge with Allah (swt) from the rejected satan.)

Satan’s little helper hard at work…

What a surprise… The Z*onist Jew at his (damnable) best: spreading hate, racism, lies, mischief, deceit, blasphemy, pornography and all the general sickness pouring forth from his black heart.

The self same Zio Jew who’s own (Talmudic) tradition is based on the practices and beliefs of depraved (Babylonian) occultists of yesteryear… No doubt this is why the Talmud compares a man’s sexual intercourse with girls under 3 years of age to a mere “poke in the eye”, and regards all non-Jews as a sub-human species even the best of whom “should be killed”…

What can one expect from such a hypocrite…

Look into yourself, liar… All the foulness you spout tells a story about who *you* are… As per Freud’s “transferrence”… Whatever it is you accuse muslims and their spiritual guides of being/doing reveals *your own* internal obsessions: your own faecal, debauched, depraved, defaming, pornographic, racist, hate-filled persona…

Whatever it is you affect to denounce effectively describes your own way of living and being, not someone else’s…

No wonder God made you an accursed nation. He destroyed you again and again, cast you out of your homes again and again for rejecting Him and His prophets. He gave you a new Covenant with Isa (Jesus, pbuh) and you rejected it, preferring to wait for the false messiah… Who, no doubt, will be the worst of your nation to ever disgrace the face of the Earth – but he will be the last…

May Allah (swt) disable your hands and mouth, stopping you dead in your tracks… May He afflict you with tribulations right, left and centre… So much so that you either go insane or perish in the midst of them or you concede, at length, that you were so violently and sickeningly wrong in your endeavours against Him and his messengers. Ameen Ya Rabb.

That old Masada Complex… Don’t worry, you’ll get your wish soon enough…

bangas June 9, 2009 at 11:12 pm

A good Muslim will kill anyone who isn’t Muslim, an infidel.
Sounds charming.
What if, hypothetically a child was born smack bang in the middle of Arab land (please excuse the blunt terminology)
and was raised without a clue about Islam and what being Muslim stands for. Then in their early adult-hood was introduced to it, and decided that it was all morally wrong to them, but they were a good person. Should they die? If YES, then there is no argument about it.

If you were to meet someone for the first time and they told you they belonged to a religion that you had never heard of, you asked them what it stood for, what it meant, and that response was of killing anyone who doesn’t believe; (not to mention the questionable manner in they way women are treated)
1. Why wouldn’t someone be scared
2. why would you want to be part of it (unless you liked to kill (good for some people…)

Oh but the virgins, I forgot! It is something that Muslims and Catholics have in common, they both like Virgins.
If you were a modern Muslim, many many girls loose their virginity these days in their early teens. So to entice men into killing in the name of Allah, they’re told there will be 72 Virgins (girls aged 15 and younger) waiting for them!
Seems like Muslims and Catholics have a bit in common, but Catholics tend to go for young boys instead

Umar June 10, 2009 at 5:27 am

Mr Bangas, you need to learn about something before you comment upon it, much less criticise it; that is from wisdom. Speaking from ignorance, as you are doing, harms you, your family, friends and the rest of humanity…

You swallow hook, line and sinker the myths created by, amongst others, the lying Z*onists as part of their black propaganda against muslims and Islam.

Take the “72 virgins” as an example… There is no reference in Islamic texts to “72 virgins”. There is, however, a *weak* narration attributed to the Prophet (SAW), to wit:

“The smallest reward for the people of Paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah (a Damascus suburb) to Sana’a (Yemen)” – Sunan al-Tirmidhi Hadith 2562.

Notice: no mention of martyrdom or suicide missions etc. Martyrdom in Islam deserves the *highest* reward, not the least. Also, the above hadith (narration) is considered weak in authenticity terms due to a flawed chain of transmission. In other words, it cannot be accepted as truly authentic. It may, in other words, have been fabricated, mis-narrated etc…

And it certainly doesn’t justify ’suicide missions’! Nothing in Islam justifies it. In fact…

In onw of the narrations from the most authentic collection of hadith, the Prophet (SAW) tells his followers that a man amongst the muslims who just has been seen to fight fought valiantly and bravely in a particular battle, incurring many crippling wounds in the process, is of the “people of the Fire” (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 77, Number 603). This astonishes the muslims but is later explained when the man in question takes his own life rather than bear his wounds! So, regardless of his valiant, brave effort and the self-sacrifice in combat that has brought about his severe wounds, because he then hastens his own death, he becomes a dweller of Hell!!

“And if somebody commits suicide with anything in this world, he will be tortured with that very thing on the Day of Resurrection”. (Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 73)

You need to research Islam, just as you would research any other topic… Understanding will not come from visiting hate sites like this one, where you will find only misinformation and defamation for defamation’s sake…

You owe it to yourself, those whom you love and those you know to tell the truth instead of swallowing and repeating lies and general deceit, which harms everyone. You will only know the truth of something when you study it – with sincerity…

Anything less is dishonest, ignorant… And criminal…

Peace out.

sheikyermami June 10, 2009 at 7:44 am

Umar,
instead of accusing us of spreading lies why don’t you take it up with your Muslim brothers and sisters who believe they get 72 virgins and 28 boyz when they blow themselves up for Al-Ilha, the pagan moon-god of the ancient desert Arabs?

Why don’t you take it up with your co-religionists who are such obvious misunderstanders of your peaceful religion? Here we have it from ex-Muslims and from Muslims who seem to know your religion better than you do:
Muhammads Great Bordello in the Sky

Or try to educate Saudi Cleric Omar Al-Sweilem who Extols the Breasts and Thighs of the Black-Eyed Virgins of Paradise here:

Appetizing vaginas! The breasts! The thighs! The legs! What hair! What a chest! What a mouth! What cheeks! What a figure!

* Of the 72 black eyed houri’s in heaven, that is.

A Christian June 12, 2009 at 9:19 am

Umar makes a good point here. Seems to me that it’s in everyone’s interests to do what he is doing and correct misunderstandings about these things. If the Hadiths teach that people who kill themselves go to hell, then making this teaching clear also makes clear that suicide bombers etc are not acting on Allah’s behalf. Good muslims who don’t understand this and mistakenly expect virgins in heaven might change their plans if they are sincere about their religion. In the same way, westerners that equate Islam with suicide attacks will learn differently and not unfairly lay this charge at their feet.

Umar, thankyou for your valuable input; I hope you will be patient enough to continue to provide others with reasoned facts. You are very welcome to add your comments to my blog, it is a Christian site and you will be treated with respect.

Sheikyermami, unless you know of a clear teaching that differs with what Umar has explained, spreading these teachings would be a constructive use for your website.

sheikyermami June 12, 2009 at 2:48 pm

Suicide bombings in Islam:

All Islamic clerics from sheik Qaradawi to sheik Tantawi of Al Azhar in Cairo have exhorted the believers to become ‘martyrs’ and justified suicide bombing. According to Umar they must all be misunderstanders of Islam then…

It’s a lie to say that the Qur’an prohibits committing suicide. The Qur’an only prohibits taking one’s life for no holy purpose. The Qur’an condemns killing one-self only out of frustrations and for no good reason. But to die in the process of killing non-muslims/kaffirs for the cause of Islam is considered a good deed for believers, and Allah promises many rewards for it.

There is one most important and appropriate quote that we must consider in beginning a discussion on this issue: “Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.” (Blaise Pascal, 1670).

The Qur’an and Sahih (pure) hadiths do encourage believers to commit suicide if necessary, in order to kill infidels/kaffirs, for the sake of Islam. The Qur’an repeatedly promises terrestrial handsome rewards for those who can kill kaffirs (enemy of Allah and His messenger) and dreadful punishing hellfire for those who refuse to kill kaffirs.

Muslims believe that their actual life starts after death and they have very little desire to prolong their life in this material world. The Qur’an also incites followers to sacrifice their lives in order to kill kaffirs in exchange of a much better and lucrative after life. In the Qur’anic verse 9:111, we find the incentive for jihadis to die in battle: the rewards of paradise, which involves sex with virgins. There are many other verses that promise rewards in paradise for death in jihad (i.e. 4:74, 4:95, 3:169). Such verses clearly order devout Muslims to kill and be killed. Allah is teaching Muslims to sacrifice their own lives, to commit suicide, in His cause in order to kill infidels (enemies of Allah).

The verse 9:111 says: “Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed.”

This verse very precisely justifies suicide bombing – the most lethal, terrifying, inhuman and successful weapon Islamic terrorists are using today to kill Allah’s enemies. It is the perfect example (without any ambiguity) of the suicidal method Allah has prescribed for devout Muslims. In verse 9:111 Allah is clearly saying that He has purchased life and property of believers in exchange of lustful and unimaginable lucrative heavenly pleasures for those who will die (commit suicide) for the cause of killing kaffirs. And the Qur’an is loaded with many more verses ordering the ardent followers to carry out endless killing of infidels/unbelievers until only Muslims remain to inhibit this Earth owned by the Islamic Allah (i.e. 8:39, 9:29, 3:85, 9:39, 9:73, 8:65, 8:66, 4:78, 2:193, 2:216, 5:33, 4:89, 9:5, 9:28, 8:67, 8:17, 9:23, 3:28, 5:45, 47:4, 9:123, 2:191, 8:12).

Umar is, of course, an indoctrinated creature devoid of any rational thought and so full of hatred, that he wishes me dead. As a Muhammad worshiper, he is religiously obliged to engage in taqiyya, lies and deception to defend Islam.

A Christian June 13, 2009 at 12:13 am

Thanks for that Shiekyermami (except for the unnecessary personal attack on Umar).

The point of debate here is not about whether the Koran exhorts violence or not. The verses you’ve listed do to my understanding say that quite clearly and it appears to me that this is how they have been interpreted over time. There are other passages that promote peace, but my understanding is that the violent and the peaceful passages apply to different times, different pathways – the roads to Mecca and Medina. Umar appears to have a good grasp of Koranic teaching and I would welcome any insights he has on that here if he believes we have misinterpreted the verses.

The point of contention however is that the passages say “be killed”, not “kill themselves”. This is not a small issue. Western armies for instance will readily send soldiers into battle knowing that they will be killed – the US for instance could quite easily co-opt Sura 9:111 to say of their own soldiers “They will fight for our cause, kill and be killed”. These soldiers are brave and readily accept the possibility or likelihood of death, but there is a big difference between this and suicide. The difference is even greater for muslims who have a teaching promising hell to those who commit suicide whereas the secular west has no such thing.

Classical muslim jurists have certainly always taught this distinction and it was well understood; the rise of those who blur the distinction is a very recent thing. Even the terrorists of the 1960’s & 70’s took care not to be killed in their own attacks. Suicide attacks only really entered the muslim world with Hizbullah and Hamas in 1982. The passage quoted by Umar is quite extensive and very explicit in its warning. Other teachings exist as well, such as the hadith qudsi which describes a man mortally wounded in ‘holy’ war who killed himself to shorten his pain. The teaching says that Allah told Muhammed “My servant pre-empted me by taking his soul with his own hand; he will therefore not be admitted to paradise.”

If classical Islam teaches that suicide even as part of war is punishable by hell, then those terrorists that do so supposedly in the name of Allah commit blasphemy (from a muslim perspective).

sheikyermami June 13, 2009 at 12:45 am

Christian:
Obviously, there is no cure for your obsession and immoral equivocations. You object to my “unnecessary personal attack on Umar” while ignoring his curses and death-wish on me.
You also seem to be reality resistant (or is it a learning disability or both?) otherwise you wouldn’t come back telling me that we (infidels) should consider suicide bombings as subject for debate. The highest ranking Islamic clerics are all agreed that suicide bombings are praiseworthy and have sung the praises of the “martyrs” that have followed Muhammads teachings as per Koran 9:111
“They will fight for our cause, kill and be killed”.
Your claim: “the rise of those who blur the distinction is a very recent thing”- is equally absurd, since the sura goes back to the days of Muhammad. Google ‘assassin’- it comes from ‘hashishin’.

“Western armies for instance will readily send soldiers into battle knowing that they will be killed” is extremely offensive to me, (and to every western soldier who goes to war) that you equivocate the Mohammedan death-wish and the promised rewards (72houris, 28 boyz) in Muhammads bordello with the diametrically opposed mindset of General Patten: “No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. … The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his…”

Besides, FYI: just yesterday a Muslim scholar opposed to suicide bombing was killed by a suicide bomber

Another indication of the difficulty of Islamic reform. “Bomb kills senior Pakistan cleric,” from the BBC

I told you before to pack it in if you have nothing to offer but prevarications and PC befuddled equivocations. Come back with something that interests me. This goose is cooked.

A Christian June 13, 2009 at 1:20 am

I’m disappointed Sheikyermami, I thought that you might have been interested in a rational debate but in the absence of an answer you’ve reverted to personal attacks and avoidance of the subject again.

Nothing that you have said in your post presents evidence that the Koran encourages killing yourself as opposed to being killed in battle. That’s the point you need to make. When you have something concrete to add such as the quotes in your earlier post you appear quite rational, but as soon as you are faced with a line of reason that you can’t answer you revert to abuse and game playing.

Thankyou, your response gives me a clear enough answer.

sheikyermami June 13, 2009 at 1:37 am

Dear Christian:
It is not the purpose of this website to whitewash Islamic scriptures or make Islam more acceptable for unsuspecting infidels. If that’s what you want, read Fareed Zakaria or drink Umar’s taqiyya straight up.

This website informs and educates. It is not my business to waste time with obstinate PC-cultists obsessed with imaginary guilt and a savior complex, a disease that weakens our resolve to keep our society and civilization Islam-free.

Update:

PC and multiculti is the problem, not the solution:

In the words of Mark Steyn:

On the continent [Europe], they pay lip service to multiculturalism and celebrate diversity, and all the rest of it; but when at a certain point, when they realize that they are looking at a life and death situation, a percentage of them will change in very unpleasant ways. So you have, on the one hand –this is the trap they are caught in – you will have people like the Swedish minister who said that we should be nice to Muslims so when they will be in a majority, they will be nice to us, or the Dutch minister who says that it would be nothing wrong with sharia if the people voted for it democratically in a Dutch election. But on the other hand you would have a lot of darker forces that, when push comes to shove, would not go easily into the long Arabian night.

But back to what we’re facing, if we allow Muslims to keep invading our countries:

Pakistan: Muslims tell Christians to convert to Islam, pay the jizya, or die

“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29

“Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war…When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them….If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.” — Muhammad (Sahih Muslim 4294)

Yet more Misunderstanders of Islam make the obvious, boneheaded mistake of acting upon what Islamic texts teach.

“PAKISTAN Church institutions threatened with bomb attack,”

A Christian June 13, 2009 at 3:20 am

You’re not telling me anything new Sheik. I’ve been a Christian for a long time, I have quite a few friends that have suffered at the hands of Islam and I have worked hard to dispel the myths that Islam is peaceful, just misunderstood. I don’t need to tell you these things again so I’ll leave that there.

I have 2 issues with what you do:

1) You claim to inform and educate, but when faced with information such as that above, you work to increase people’s ignorance by diverting them from the subject and resorting to childish arguments and name calling. You do this whenever you are faced with facts that make you appear fanatical and misinformed. In contrast, Umar presented valid facts and reason. You, Sheikyermami have done more on this page to contrast Islam as the voice of reason than many muslim apologists.
2) You respond to hate with hate and thereby continue the cycle. You initiate new conflicts and stir the pot rather than providing a safe environment where muslims and any others are free to question their beliefs and discuss them openly, peacefully and rationally as I have found many prepared to do.

It appears to me that you are a sociopath – a narcissist that by definition is unable to empathise with others. I hope very much that I am wrong because confused, hurt people flock to narcissistic leaders and together are capable of immense harm. If I am right, my words will be meaningless to you and you will continue as you have done; but if this is the case I intend to do what I can to expose your fraud.

sheikyermami June 13, 2009 at 4:21 am

Hopeless!

So for you, a fake ‘Christian’ communist, Umar’s insane rants are ‘rational?’ Who is the fanatic here?

“Umar presented valid facts and reason?”-

Here’s Umar:

“May Allah (swt) disable your hands and mouth, stopping you dead in your tracks… May He afflict you with tribulations right, left and centre… So much so that you either go insane or perish in the midst of them or you concede, at length, that you were so violently and sickeningly wrong in your endeavours against Him and his messengers. Ameen Ya Rabb”

You complain about me name-calling, but you call me a “sociopath – narcissist” while calling Islam a “voice of reason?”

Ever since you started to post here, you been trying to defend Islam, demanded “respect”, kept chewing on the old ‘racist’ canard, you even threatened me “to expose my fraud” and tried to trip me in some kind of genocidal rant while at the same time calling for some kind of Christian love and compa$$ion (as if it there was an obligation) -

No Sir, there’s not.

“2) You respond to hate with hate and thereby continue the cycle. You initiate new conflicts and stir the pot rather than providing a safe environment where muslims and any others are free to question their beliefs and discuss them openly, peacefully and rationally as I have found many prepared to do.”

I don’t hate. I care. I care for the future of western civilization, for the birthright of OUR kids, for freedom and democracy, for OUR culture and OUR civilization which is the best in the history of mankind. I see disengagement from the “Muslim world” as an obligation. In fact its more than that: its a matter of self-preservation, because we cannot coexist.

I don’t care if Muslims like Umar are posting here. I don’t care if Muslims want me dead. I have thousands of hatemail from guys like Umar.
I care for my people, who are going to be dhimmies (or dead) if we don’t reverse the Islamic invasion.

“You’re not telling me anything new Sheik”-

I’m no ‘Hope’n'Change’ man. I don’t claim to reinvent the wheel.

Muslims hate because they are religiously obliged to hate unbelievers. Their whole belief-system is based on hate. Without hatred against the kuffar, without jihad, there is no Islam.

Is there another religion with a genocidal mandate to wipe out Jews to the last?

Still wanna tell me we have an obligation to make Muslims comfy among us?

Who is the fraud here?

A Christian June 13, 2009 at 5:14 am

Again, no answer so a lot of rehashing of previous points and twisting of my words. The fraud is that interpret what you do as “care”, when there are so many people out in the world you obviously fear so greatly who have the courage to respond to hate with love. They face hard reality and bear the anger on their own lives rather than cowering behind deception and half truths.

Umar June 13, 2009 at 8:02 am

Well, well, well… Quite a debate we have here… Or is it a debate?

The Sheikh of Fake seems quite piqued…

When I cursed you, Sheikh Yerfists, there was no “death threat” involved… Prove that *I* threatened to do harm to you… Go on, call the police, ask them to round up suspects… They might have a little trouble bringing in a certain Deity, though…

Such a drama queen…

What I did, and completely justifiably, was to wish upon you, consequent to the vile, disgusting defamatory bile you have produced on this website which attacks – not critices – in the sickest way, personages revered by 1.5bn human beings… I have merely wished, I say, what God Almighty promises to all those who fight and defame his Deen (way of life), his messengers and their families…

Such mischief by the Children of Israel is not new… They started looong ago… They derided, mocked, ignored and opposed their own prophets, including Moses (AS)… Some they even murdered…

No other nation has done as much as yours to pour filth and scorn upon the great and blessed characters of Jesus (AS) and his mother Mary (AS) (whom muslims consider the best of womankind), though Jesus was the Messiah awaited by the Israelites!!

So why would you spare the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)?

Not only are you a hate-merchant and a deviant/ pornographer, but you are a liar to boot… Call this a “personal attack” if you will, but nothing of what I have said is inaccurate…

You are not attacking extremism, you are attacking Islam and all muslims… Do you still wonder at the ferocity of my response?? If you do, then you are also a fool…

You can quote verses from the Qur’an ad infinitum but you are too wretched to even try to comprehend their meaning IN THEIR CONTEXT… You take any verse that mentions killing, death etc and you jump on it, like some crazed bigot foaming at the mouth, just looking for something to use against people whom you have decided to hate BECAUSE OF ISRAEL!

You are such a hypocrite, that you have forgotten that your ancestors were saved time and again from desctruction by the muslims, *precisely because* of what is in the Qur’an and the example of the Prophet (SAW)… They flourished – yes as dhimmi paying the jizya (token pledge tribute) – in muslims lands, even establishing monopolies in various areas of industry and commerce… Your greatest scholar, Maimonides, flourished in the Middle Ages because of MUSLIM rule!

“I don’t hate. I care. I care for the future of western civilization, for the birthright of OUR kids, for freedom and democracy, for OUR culture and OUR civilization which is the best in the history of mankind. I see disengagement from the “Muslim world” as an obligation. In fact its more than that: its a matter of self-preservation, because we cannot coexist. ”

As a Zionist, you are not concerned with Western ‘Civilisation’, assuming such a thing exists. You are concerned with one thing and one thing alone –> save Zion! You would destroy the West – and the East, North and South – to protect a nation of vile, racist, neo-Nazis… Even a Jewish member of the UK parliament, a Zionist, who knew met all Israel’s PMs and was a friend of Golda Meir, has compared Israel’s actions to those of Nazis!!

“We Jews are aliens… a foreign people in your midst and we… wish to stay that way. A Jew can never be a loyal German; whoever calls the foreign land his Fatherland is a traitor to the Jewish people“. (Jacob Klatzkin, Zionist Ideologist, 1921.)

Why don’t you put your own house in order before you broach the question of what muslims believe? Look a little closer to home…

Rabbi Ovadia Yosip, head of worldwide Mizrahi Jewry and ’spiritual’ leader of the Israeli Shas party (who regularly has members in ministerial posts) – who has been greeted by PM Tony Blair amongst others – refers to Arabs as “rats”, “dogs”, “snakes” etc and calls for their annihilation…

What about a Talmud-soaked ex- ’spiritual’ head of Israel’s Central Region Command forces:
“When our forces come across civilians during a war or in hot pursuit or in a raid, so long as there is no certainty that those civilians are incapable of harming our forces, then according to the Halakhah they may and even should be killed… Under no circumstances should an Arab be trusted, even if he makes an impression of being civilized … In war, when our forces storm the enemy, they are allowed and even enjoined by the Halakhah to kill even good civilians, that is, civilians who are ostensibly good.” (Colonel Rabbi A. Avidan (Zemel), ‘Tohar hannesheq le’or hahalakhah’ in Be’iqvot milhemet yom hakkippurim -
pirqey hagut, halakhah umehqar, Central Region Command, 1973.)

These people speak – and act – from the religious conviction informed by Talmudic teachings…

I would be more than happy to answer all charges levelled against our Deen, respond to all out-of-context quotes, explain the Qur’anic descriptions of Heaven etc, but that would only ever be AFTER you have proven that you are civilised and interested in 2-way dialogue, not one-way hate-speech. This would require taking down all the vile, injurious, opprobrious pictures and drawings on this site and removing all pornographic/ injurious references, remarks and so on…

Tell me… If you are only concerned with throwing filth at others, as this site makes abundantly clear, why should any rational person waste their time reasoning with you?

sheikyermami June 13, 2009 at 10:41 am

You are not making any sense, Christian.

Your ‘reality’ is obviously a different one from mine.

Point out one item on this blog that proves that I am “cowering behind deception and half truths”- you won’t find it.

Go away. Buzz off. Waste somebody else’s time!

Umar June 13, 2009 at 1:02 pm

Interesting that my latest comments haven’t appeared on here… Now why does that not surprise me…

More Zionist deception, no doubt…

Fred Alan Medforth June 13, 2009 at 4:38 pm

Gitmo prisoner pushed drugs in Germany

Both Guantanamo prisoners who should be taken up by request of the USA in Germany are known to the security services. As the news magazine “Focus” reports, a Tunisian had come in 1996 illegally to Germany and had applied under wrong name for asylum. In the federal state Hessen he was known to the police as a dealer.
According to the information of the authorities the Tunisian went through a paramilitary education. After the attacks from the 11th September he fled from Afghanistan to Iran, however, was sent back again and handed over in February, 2003 to the US military. The second Guantanamo prisoner was in a Taliban camp and appears according to the news magazine as a potential martyr in a video which was taken up in autumn, 2001. The Ministry of Internal Affairs sees no possibility for the admission of the prisoners because of of the legal conditions.
More:
http://searchlight-germany.blogspot.com/2009/06/gitmo-prisoner-pushed-drugs-in-germany.html

A Christian June 13, 2009 at 11:09 pm

People in the west are particularly aware of Islam due to the fear that completely random individuals will wander into a building with bombs strapped to their chest and kill hundreds, believing that they are on a mission from God. Most are not aware however that the Muslim scriptures explicitly condemn suicide for any reason, even as part of war.

““And if somebody commits suicide with anything in this world, he will be tortured with that very thing on the Day of Resurrection”. (Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 73)

The reality is that there is not a single muslim scripture that condones suicide. There are plenty that say “be killed”, but none that say “kill yourself”. If this is the case, then why can such terrorism not be cut off at the root by broadcasting this teaching so that good muslims will no longer believe they are acting on Allah’s behalf by blowing themselves up or flying planes into buildings? Some muslims are attempting to spread this teaching, but they have been banned from this site.

When asked if he knew of any scriptures to say differently, Sheikyermami responded by saying that Muslim clerics now believe suicide bombings to be ok. Interestingly, if Muslim clerics say that Islam is a religion of peace he points them back to the scriptures that say differently, but not in this case. When asked why in this case alone he places the authority of a few modern clerics over the entire Muslim scriptures and their interpretation for the past 1,500 years, Sheikyermami blocked the poster. Clearly, there are some questions we are not allowed to ask.

Why does Sheikyermami want you to remain ignorant of this? How does he propose to free Muslims from Islam through reason (as he claims) when he promotes “Rational Ruthlessness”? Ruthlessness by definition means action that is not limited by empathy or compassion. A ruthless approach means that there are no limits to the lengths taken. No amount of propaganda is too much; no amount of violence is too much.

Consider carefully how much you listen to this person. If he responds to this message, check 1) does he provide answers from the Koran or the Hadiths, and 2) do these answers encourage soldiers to be brave enough to “be killed” or do they say “kill yourself”? If the answer does not satisfy both of these criteria he has attempted to mislead you. Be aware that Sheikyermami censors his information heavily and only allows you to read what he wants you to know. Ask yourself what his agenda is really, and whether you want to be played by him.

sheikyermami June 14, 2009 at 2:33 am

Fake Christian:

I have a better idea: you go and explain to the 40.000 Iranian suicide bombers in waiting, the hundreds of thousands of madrassah students in Pakistan, the thousands of Hamas, Hizbollah and Al Aqsa martyr’s brigades suicide trainees that what they’re doing is un-Islamic and they’re somehow misinterpreting sura 9:111. Now go and knock yourself out!

I’ve had a gut full of your prevarications and mendacity, your phony, pretentious humanitarian BS and your parasitic commie grievance theater. I allowed you (patiently) to post your rubbish here, but when you shamelessly lie and make up crap like “Sheikyermami censors his information heavily” (all your posts remain, for now) but if I don’t get an instant apology and a retraction, all your posts and those of your Muzz-compatriots, “Rev” and “Dave” who post with false e-mail addresses, will be summarily deleted.

I hope you understand my language.

Update:

here’s everything you need to know about suicide bombing:

Did Prophet Muhammad Endorse Suicide Bombing?

Aimoe June 14, 2009 at 6:36 am

reading this… not in entirety… the vehemence is quite normal for a slighted Muslim. Try slighting a Buddhist. Now that is how a man of God should react.

I live in Malaysia. Here… intermarriage is not allowed. Although it is allowed in the Quran. Dogs are ill treated. Non Muslims are maligned and discriminated against. Forget all that.

Incest in my fair Muslim country is usually committed by hte Muslims. (90 plus %) We have buddhists, christians, catholics, hindus, free thinkers, vernacular indigenous religions, Jainism, Sikhism, Taoism et al.

You tell me. why 90% plus. Father daughter. Grandfather Daughter. Uncle Niece.

I never see it reported in the paper as mother son. Grandmother grandson. Aunt nephew.

You make your own conclusion. Better still….. spay a Malaysian Muslim today.

A Christian June 14, 2009 at 7:31 am

Once again Sheik, I don’t …

SNIPPED for being an unapologetic pest

A Christian June 14, 2009 at 9:24 pm

Sheik, you blocked 2 of my posts and you’re telling me that I am lying. Now unless I apologise you snip my further posts?

sheikyermami June 14, 2009 at 10:47 pm

Christian: Posting here is a privilege, not a right.

An apology is called for.

Note: The Comments section is provided in the interests of free speech only. It is mostly unmoderated, but comments that are off-topic, threatening, slanderous, or otherwise annoying stand a chance of being deleted. The fact that a comment remains on the site IN NO WAY constitutes an endorsement by Winds of Jihad, or by sheik yer’mami (or any other writer who contributes to this blog, of any view expressed, fact alleged, or link provided in that comment.)

Disagreement and debate are welcome, but insults and abuse are not, and may cause your account to be blocked.
REMEMBER: posting comments at WoJ is a privilege, not a right. Abuse that privilege, and you will be gone.

Umar A June 15, 2009 at 7:49 am

“Disagreement and debate are welcome, but insults and abuse are not, and may cause your account to be blocked.”

Another example of Zionist out-and-out hypocrisy…

Your entire site is an insult to and abuse of Islam and its 1.5bn followers!

You insult the Prophet (pbuh) in every conceivable way, clearly relishing in your depraved pornographic outpourings… What if your mother or grandmother were called a whore and this was elaborated upon in every way and a website created for that purpose with ‘evidence’ gathered and – as per your sick-minded m.o. – ‘interpreted’ in the blackest possible manner?

You cannot take insults – or perceived insults – of one, solitary little Zionist scourge of humanity… Namely YOU!

Hypocrite, liar, black-hearted propagandist, racist, enemy of humanity. This site says it all…

“REMEMBER: posting comments at WoJ is a privilege, not a right. Abuse that privilege, and you will be gone.”

You abuse every privilege given to you by God – and your country’s Constitution…

May God blight your hands, your mouth and every part of you that is used to spread lies, deceit and depravity about His Deen and His blessed messengers. May be He make an exampe of you for all to see. Ameen.

A Christian June 15, 2009 at 11:01 am

Sheik, you know very well that I have weathered constant insults from you and replied with courtesy even if directly. Your post deceptively implies that you deleted mine because it was abusive when all I did was ask why you blocked me making a very valid point about the current subject. You have the power to mislead your readers this way and there is nothing I can do about it, I understand. But that is corrupt use of power and gives you no moral high ground from which to criticise others.

You say that disagreement and debate are welcome, so please, engage in debate with me and stop resorting to name calling, implying that I am stupid or misleading your readers as you have just done. You have the power here, please don’t misuse it.

sheikyermami June 15, 2009 at 5:02 pm

Dear Christian:

What do you think this is? A democracy?

You didn’t make a valid point about the ‘current subject’- you tried to play “Gotcha” with me, and you kept digging yourself ever deeper in a hole, over whether sura 9:111 justifies suicide bombing. I don’t have the time for games like this, and for you to whine over me ‘having the power to mislead readers’ is absurd.

This is my soapbox, remember?

Now I spell it out, for you and for the last time. And if you still don’t get it, please be gone and don’t post here unless you have a valid point to make:

There is a difference between wrong and right. There is a difference between left and right, day and night and a man is not woman.

All cultures are not equal. Religions are not equal. There is a difference between black and white, and to say that doesn’t make me ‘racist’.

The law of gravity is SELF-EVIDENT.

The fact that Muslims have attacked non-Muslims for 1400 years following the koranic command to enslave us, to force us under Islamic law, the sharia, is undeniable like the law of gravity.

Fact is that sura 9:111 is the justification for suicide bombers and the rewards of 72 virgins (along with 28 boyz like pearls) in an Islamic bordello are the reason for these ‘martyrdom missions’, but you insist its “my opinion” and that I’m wrong.

I don’t have time for that, I really don’t.

In the archives of this blog there are hundreds of videos and certified transcripts from the highest raking mullahs, muftis and imams in the Islamic world, from Saudi Arabia to Cairo, including Sheik Qaradawi, sheik Tantawi and Mufti Goma from Al Azahr, clearly stating that those who die in suicide missions are the highest rewarded ‘martyrs’. The muslim understanding of ‘martyr’ is obviously not the same as the Christian one, just like ‘peace’ or ‘oppression’ has a completely different meaning for a muslim, who believes he has a natural, Allah-given right to rule cruelly over the subjugated infidel (dhimmi) who must not be allowed to rule any part of this earth.

That’s why its called Islamic supremacy.

I am unimpressed about ‘global worming’ and care even less about ‘carbon trading’- its all bogus.

So is “Shell’s access to oil in the Nigerian delta with no environmental restrictions”- this blog is called Winds of Jihad, its about stopping the muslim invasion, which will turn our world into an Islamic desert if we don’t succeed to keep them out. Islam stifles mental growth. Read it, here.

Our ancestors understood that and fought the muslims valiantly. If 300 years ago Vienna fell to the Muslims, we would all be prostrating ourselves to Mecca 5 times a day, women would be under black shrouds and have their clitorises cut out, and you would be stoned for adultery or blasphemy.

Thanks to Jean Sobieski, Charles Martell, Pelayo, Vald Dracula, Thomas Jefferson and many more we are free (and remain non-Muslims) today.

If you watch Geert Wilders latest video you might try to understand what’s at stake: to do whatever it takes, (and that means legally) to reverse the Islamic invasion in Europe, Australia and America (or wherever the jihad rages)

It is also important to understand that its not an ‘irrational fear of terrorism’ that is our first concern. What matters is demographics, jihad by outbreeding. By replacing secular democracy with sharia and all the rest.

That’s enough now. If you have specific questions, go right ahead.

But don’t play gotcha games, don’t whine or engage in projection.

Update:

Fitzgerald: What must be done (part 2)

Here is the real conundrum: how does anyone make clear the truth of such a vile and hateful ideology, when to make such a statement as I just have is considered to be “vile and hateful” itself? How can we protect ourselves and our descendants when even to seek wisdom on this issue is despised?

There is no art in Islam. There is no music in Islam. There is no science in Islam. There is no equality for women or non-Muslims in Islam. Ayatollah Khomeini told us there is no fun in Islam.

Just to wrap everything up, we can simply aver: There is no civilization in Islam.
Link
Update:
Both Old and New Testament exhort us to love good and HATE EVIL.

Psalm 97:10
Let those who love the LORD hate evil, for he guards the lives of his faithful ones and delivers them from the hand of the wicked.

Proverbs 8:13
To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.

Amos 5:15
Hate evil, love good; maintain justice in the courts. Perhaps the LORD God Almighty will have mercy on the remnant of Joseph.

Romans 12:9
9Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

As Israel has compromised and offered citizenship to Arabs since 1948 and given up land in an attempt to appease an implacable foe, I am reminded of the following verse:

Numbers 33
55 ” ‘But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will become barbs in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will give you trouble in the land where you will live. 56 And then I will do to you what I plan to do to them.’ “

It is time to develop an “I just don’t care, anymore, what you think about me” attitude. For years, terms like intolerant, racist, -phobe, bigot…you name it, have been used as means to shame us into silence.

No more.

A Christian June 15, 2009 at 10:21 pm

I understand that this is your soapbox – that’s what you ‘having the power’ means. In the entire post you just gave me you could not show one single instance where I had insulted you, was slanderous etc as you had claimed. If there wasn’t anywhere that I did that then that claim was misleading wasn’t it?

Discussing the meaning of Sura 9:111 is not off topic is it? So drop that misleading accusation. I have repeatedly acknowledged that it has been used to justify suicide attacks since 1982 haven’t I? So stop repeating the obvious as if it changes things! The question I asked you because you have obviously spent a lot of time reading the Koran is whether there is a scripture that allows suicide as an act of war, because Sura 9:111 does not cover the topic.

It may be that we’re just talking across a big culture gap and misunderstanding each other. I work as a research scientist and follow the falsification principle – you put forward a hypothesis based on observations and then look for evidence to disprove it. You write it up as a paper and send it in to a group of faceless strangers who tear it to bits and criticise every aspect that they can find of it. After you’ve addressed their issues, it’s finally published, where any other scientist on earth can read it, find fault with it and write another paper to refute it. That’s the scientific process; it keeps us honest.

Now say I write up a theory that says “everyone in the world is white”, then I survey Scandinavia and come up with millions of people, all who are white. If I send that enormous dataset in to a journal and a reviewer says “I know someone who isn’t white”, my entire thesis has been disproven. The entire crux of the argument is not about the millions of white people I surveyed, it’s about the one person who wasn’t. I can wax poetic about the streets lined with white faces that I saw, I can do some more research in Russia, I can tell the reviewer he’s annoying, I can call him a muslim, a communist or tell him he’s fat, but unless I prove that the person he knows is actually white after all, I don’t have a case. He’s not ‘playing gotcha’, he’s using the scientific method, he’s just being reasonable.

That’s what I’m about here; I want to get to the bottom of things. Because I am interested in the same issue that you are, I think it’s important to know whether suicide attacks really are based on muslim scripture, or if as many other jurists say they are a misinterpretation. Listing more people that interpret Sura 9:111 as you do is like finding more white faces. The issue is what the scriptures say. So do you know any scriptures that explicitly support or allow suicide, that give a loophole to the hadith that promises hell? I’v got no interest in gloating, but if someone who has clearly looked into the issue as much as you have can’t find one, I think that’s noteworthy.

And on Global Warming, if you can demonstrate that you have a better grip on climatology than the thousands of climate scientists and have a proven case that discredits all of theirs, then you can dismiss all of the destruction we are causing. But without that, you need to get the log out of your eye. The World Health Organisation estimated a few years ago that there are already 100,000 people dying a year as a result of the warming that has already happened. Just as muslims need to take responsibility for their actions, so do we.

sheikyermami June 15, 2009 at 10:31 pm

Go away! Just crawl back under your rock!

A Christian June 16, 2009 at 10:10 pm

On your update Sheik –

As difficult as it is, Fitzgerald’s conundrum is not quite so bad as as it seems if we adopt the Christian principle “hate the sin, love the sinner”.

Fitzgerald said: “how does anyone make clear the truth of such a vile and hateful ideology, when to make such a statement as I just have is considered to be “vile and hateful” itself?” If, during WWII I was to say that the German extermination of the Jews was vile and hateful, I would be just. If I instead was to say “Germans are vile and hateful”, then yes, I would be vile and hateful myself. This Christian principle has been embodied to some degree in the Rule of Law, which allows us to identify exactly what is vile and hateful without having to hate the perpetrators. It allows us to decide that female “circumcision” is vile and cruel, that forcing people to convert to your belief under threat of violence or persecution is vile and hateful, that stoning women for being raped is unspeakably evil. It allows us to do all of these things in perfect freedom – neither you or Fitzgerald is really in a conundrum at all. But if you start treating people from places where these things are practiced as if they themselves are vile and hateful, then yes, you yourself have become the thing you hate.

If you read back over the passages you have quoted, you will find the principle that I’m describing. At no point does God tell us to “hate evil people, love good ones”, instead he says “hate evil, love good, maintain justice in the courts”. When missionaries entered the West Papuan highlands, they encountered a belief that taught people that the highest ‘good’ was to befriend your enemies, earn their deepest trust and then at the moment of greatest trust, betray and kill them as brutally as possible. When they told the story of Judas betraying Jesus, the people cheered in excitement, honestly believing that Judas was the hero of the story. At that point the missionaries could have said “these people are vile & hateful”, but instead they set out to expose to the people what was vile and hateful about that kind of thinking. They didn’t communicate any form of rejection, because as much as they hated the sin, they still loved the sinner. Which I’m glad of – free of that sort of thinking now the West Papuans I know are kind, generous, caring funny people with a beautiful culture and I enjoy their company no end. They were never vile, there was just a vile practice.

This is how you can avoid the titles “intolerant, bigot, racist” etc and still maintain your integrity. Campaign with everything in you against the behaviours, but love the people. Welcome Muslims to your country, but do it fully. A Texan friend of mine opened his house to Muslim refugees so that they became part of his family. In doing so, they were placed in a safe environment where they were completely loved and accepted, while being subject to laws that forbid certain behaviours. People in this environment come eventually to a crisis of belief – they see the contrast between the good they are experiencing and the evil that they are being asked to perpetrate, and they are forced to choose. The reality is that over and over again, people who are accepted into a caring society let the old beliefs fall off them like yesterday’s clothes. The formula is a simple one – hate evil, love good, maintain justice in the courts. Hold the laws against what is wrong firm and enforce them justly in the courts, but love the people. Without both sides happening, we have our present situation.

theresaj June 17, 2009 at 12:24 am

Christian , what is wrong with you? You are beyond reason. You accuse Sheik of things and then do the same. You called him a narcissist. I could not even find a word to describe you. You are a walking bafflement. You say you are a Christian and then you go to extraordinary lengths to defend the indefensible.
So you have Muslim friends..this site is not about your friends.
Sheik is not a fraud and the others who post here are not “lost” or “hurt.” You are the one who is very confused.
I hope you find something worthwhile to do. I will not respond or reply to any more of your posts.

Yourheadonaplate June 17, 2009 at 7:00 am

What an unadulterated f*cker you are, Sheik Sh*thead. One of these days you will be crushed under a large object and once your putrid corpse has been scraped off the ground and the ground cleansed, the stench that was you will be but a memory…

Your foulness will be your undoing… Mark my words… As the Talmud so aptly puts it: “J*ws are incorrigible f*ckers so drop big, heavy objects on them and purify the world of their stench”.

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