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* Robert Spencer:
If you speak honestly and accurately about the Islamic jihad doctrine and the Islamic supremacist agenda, and even confine your case entirely to quotes from authoritative Islamic sources and spokesmen, you will still be accused of “hating Muslims.” This is the constant refrain of apologists for jihad and their useful idiots in the West — and they constantly have recourse to it because they know that it is effective: it turns the Left and much of the squishy Right away from the message of the “hater,” regardless of how outlandish and unjust the charge is.
Myself, I don’t hate Muslims. I love Muslims. Telling the truth is not an act of hate. I am not “Islamophobic,” I am Islamorealistic. I tell the truth about Islam and work to defend Western civilization and society from the encroachments of a legal and societal system that oppresses Muslims and non-Muslims alike.
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Multicultural Europe and its suicide
Finsbury Park Mosque, London 2002
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* Fight against sharia: “Sharia is Hate”
Unlike refugees from Nazism, or Communism, who hated Nazis and hated Communists, and wanted only to escape from them and, in many cases, to actively work against them, the so-called “refugees” or simply immigrants from Muslim lands bring with them, in their mental baggage, Islam itself. They do not realize that it is Islam, with its inshallah-fatalism and natural support for depotism as opposed to advanced Western democracy (for the belief-system locates legitimacy not in the expressed will of the people, but in the will expressed by Allah in the Qur’an, as glossed by Hadith and Sira). They carry the belief-system with them, and what is more, attempt – not without success — to spread it about, to make sure that the numbers of adherents of Islam grow and grow and grow. It is this Da’wa, and demographic conquest that is the result of fantastic, utterly unchecked Muslim migration, and the great disparity in birth-rates between Muslims (who often smuggle in plural wives, supported by Infidel taxpayers in their generous welfare payments), and the indigenous non-Muslims, that has, for example, caused the 15,000 Muslims in Holland in 1970 to become 1 million, or 5-7 million Muslims now to burden the educational and justice systems, and the welfare benefits, and the laic state, and social peace, in France, and England, and Germany, and everywhere that Muslims in large numbers have been permitted to settle — which has led, no clear-sighted Infidel can deny, to a situation far more unpleasant, expensive, and physically dangerous — and becoming more unpleasant, more expensive, more physically dangerous every day — for the indigenous Infidels.
This must stop. This suicidal policy cannot continue.
Guessing the religion of those who plant bombs, hi-jack planes, fire into crowds of civilians, take hostages and murder hostages is the world’s ultimate no-brainer. And yet our leaders, the media and many of us pretend there’s no connection between psychopathic killers and the religion which exalts the slaughter of unbelievers. Islam remains what it was at its beginning, a violent, expansionist faith that will tolerate no competitors. What other religion has the concept of jihad, the notion that if you die fighting for allah you get 72 virgins in paradise? Mohammed started by eliminating the competition, annihilating Jewish tribes in the Arabian Peninsula. More than a 1000 yrs later, it’s still business as usual for his successors. Is islam a religion of peace? Is there an Easter bunny? Can pigs fly? Calling for a war on terror is like trying to stop the bullets instead of stopping the people who are doing the shooting, decades of terror and they still dont get it. Any religious creed that promotes terrorism as a method for the conversion of infidels deserves only contempt and needs to be mocked, crushed, and expelled from the lands it has silently infiltrated. The war is, and needs to be identified without question, against islam and their numbers and attitude warrant exceptional attention…
Hugh Fitzgerald
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So-called dialogue with the Islamic world and relativism regarding marriage, the dignity of women, and sexual equality in the name of multiculturalism is destroying European identity and doing away with womens rights.
Thursday, March 08, 2007
By Samir Khalil Samir
The ideology of multiculturalism, i.e. blind tolerance toward any culture and tradition, is destroying European identity and is above all doing away with human rights and, more specifically, women’s rights. A prime example is the increasing tolerance in European countries toward polygamy.
In theory, polygamy is prohibited in Italy and in Europe. But it increasingly happens, in the name of multiculturalism, that Muslim immigrants are registered as polygamists in the European continent: if a man is Muslim and married in his country of origin with 4 wives, we cannot but accept this as a given. All this goes against European laws and constitutions – which affirm monogamous families – but, in the name of a misplaced respect for cultures, any solution is deemed acceptable.
Tolerance for polygamy?
In Italy, some constitutionalists are suggesting, for the sake of letting people have it both ways, that only one wife be recognized as such, while the others are considered concubines: this would settle the situation of various Muslims who already have a wife in their country of origin and take another in Italy. Others think that a distinction could be made between civil marriage (at City Hall, with just one wife) and religious marriage in a mosque, where polygamous marriages could be celebrated. Naturally, to do this, they are proposing that the articles of Italian civil law, which affirm monogamy and the equality of men and women, not be read. A similar trend is spreading in Greece. In certain areas where Muslims are the majority, the government has accepted the principle that they manage themselves with their own norms. And so, in Athens, polygamy is prohibited, but in Muslim-majority areas, it is allowed, again in the name of cultural respect.
Multiculturalism is doing a lot of damage. Firstly to common sense: if a man is married in Senegal with a woman and in Italy with another, this cannot be defined as monogamy. A crime remains such whether it is committed in Italy or abroad. Such tricks are actually a way to suggest loopholes for polygamy. Thus, if an Italian wants to have more than just one wife, all he needs to do is to convert to Islam!
But multiculturalism is above all damaging to the dignity of women. Polygamy in Italy is prohibited in that it is contrary to the principle of equality between men and women. It would be useful to Islam too to affirm this principle. In Islamic society, in fact, women cannot be polygamous (only men have that “right”). The same is true for repudiation, which is permitted to a man, but not to a woman who, however, can ask her husband the favour of repudiating her. Affirming monogamy is thus the way forward on the path for an overall effort in favour of women’s rights.
The Imam of Vénissieux and women
To understand the humiliation in which women live in the Islamic world, I would like to recall a fact that sparked much debate in France. Last February 20th, the courts definitively rejected an appeal made by Imam Abdelkader Bouziane. An Algerian-national, Sheikh Abdelkader, imam of the mosque of Vénissieux, near Lyon, a polygamist and father of 16 (sixteen) children (14 of which French citizens) had been living in France since 1980.
He had been ordered on February 26, 2004, to leave the country by Interior Minister Sarkozy, for his inflammatory speeches and for incitement to hatred, but the ordinance was not enforced. On April 20, following an interview in the “Lyon Mag” newspaper, he was again served an expulsion order for his statements against women, in particular for having said that “the Koran authorizes a Muslim, in certain cases, to beat his wife,” that women must subjugated themselves to their husband and were not equal to men.
On April 23rd, the administrative tribunal of Lyon suspended the expulsion ordinance and rejected the Interior Ministry’s request. The imam went back to France in May 22. On October 5, 2004, the State Council cancelled the expulsion suspension, and the next day the iman was again expelled to Orano in Algeria. On June 21, 2005, the Lyon court declared him once again free, but on October 14, he was convicted in absentia. The imam filed an appeal, but on February 6, 2007, the courts definitively rejected his case.
The “Régards de femmes” Association of Lyon, which had sued the imam, declared: “The right to dignity, to respect, to the integrity of her body belongs to every woman in France. It will not be possible from now on to legitimize violence against women on the pretence of religion.”
The Imam’s interview
here are a few extracts of the (famous) interview with Sheikh Abdelkader on the male-female relationship.
In your opinion, are women equal to men?
No. For example, women do not have the right to work alongside men, as they [women] could be tempted by adultery.
Must women necessarily be subjugated to men?
Yes, because the head of the family is always a man. But he must be fair to his wife: he must not beat her for no reason, nor consider her a slave.
Is this why you are favourable to polygamy?
Yes, a Muslim can have more than one wife. But not more than four! Plus, there are conditions.
But why can women not have more than one husband?
Because no one would know who fathered the children!
Are you in favour of the stoning [1] of women?
Yes, because beating one’s wife is allowed by the Koran, but under certain conditions, in particular if she betrays her husband. Please note however: the man does not have the right to beat her everywhere: not on the face, but in the lower parts, her legs, her stomach, her bottom. He can beat her vigorously so as to induce fear, so that she does not start again!
The Koran: wife beating is allowed
Various readers were up in arms, but in the end the imam defended himself saying that this is the Koran. And he’s right. If we open the Koran at Sura 4, verse 34, we can read:
“Men have authority over women due to the preference that Allah concedes to them over the other and because they spend their property [for women]; Good women are therefore obedient, guarding under secrecy that which Allah has preserved [sex]. [2] ; As for those on whose part you fear insubordination, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do nothing further against them; Allah is high and great.”
Last week on Al Jazeera, I heard another imam explain the four conditions for beating a wife: not on her face; without drawing blood; without breaking bones; not in the presence of children. If all this is insufficient, one must resort to extreme punishment, i.e. the man deprives his wife of sexual relations.
The Koran is also explicit on the question of the superiority of men to women; according to the Koran, Charter 2 (The Cow), Verse 228:
“Divorced women should keep themselves in waiting for three periods; and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allah has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have priority to take them back during this time if they wish for reconciliation; and they [women] have rights equivalent to their duties, on the basis of good custom, but the men are superior. Allah is Mighty, Wise.”
The Italian edition published by the Union of Islamic Communities and Organizations in Italy (UCOII) includes a long footnote (absent on the on-line version) on the phrase “but men are superior”:
“In a pitiful effort to standardize Islam to Western culture, certain modernist commentators have written that superiority has only to do with the right of men to repudiate their wife, a faculty which is not reciprocal. In reality, it is a much more important and fundamental matter for the maintaining of balance at the individual, family and social levels.
“Man and Woman are two complementary realities that exist unto each other. If this were not so, Allah (glory be to Him the Most High) would not have formed Eve from Adam’s rib, he would have furnished each gender with complete reproductive organs, etc., etc.
“The physical structure of men is capable of great exertion and significant exploits, that of women, of steady labour and great endurance of pain.
“Male sensitivity is entirely exterior, projected outside the realm of family and tends to become public and political. That of women is interior, careful of oneself, aimed at the protection of that which has been acquired and to the acquisition of simple means of sustenance and security.
“Male psychology is imaginative, creative, experimental, risk-loving, desirous of novelty, of affirming the Self, usually ample and superficial. That of women is concrete, traditional, risk-hating, desirous of certainty, of conserving what is “mine”, usually profound and limited.
“In the realm of family, the respect of the Laws of Allah and of the Sunna of the Messenger can create situations that require an affirmation of power that mortifies the complementarity of spouses. But apart from complementarity, there is the problem of leadership, in the family and in society, which does not mean predomination, oppression or the lack of recognition of female predominance in a number of sectors and circumstances. Allah (Glory be to Him, the Most High) assigns this management role to the male. It is an onerous and difficult task that men would often willingly do without, and for which he must respond before Allah.”
This apologetic comment, written by an Italian converted to Islam, mirrors the opinion of traditionalistic ulemas, avoiding their excesses. It assigns specific tasks to men and to women, tasks which are unchangeable because determined by God, which claim to correspond to the nature of one and the other. It is obvious that such a distribution of roles, established by God for eternity and valid for all times and cultures, is hardly compatible with Western mentality and is often incompatible with the laws and constitutions of Europe.
Conclusion
Is it possible to accept this teaching in the name of the respect for cultures and religious tolerance? This is the serious question faced by all Western countries.
I don’t know if the flag-wavers of multiculturalism realize how much human damage they cause. Actually, it is increasingly clear that so-called multicultural tolerance is only acquiescence to a subtle form of racism. In the name of cultural difference, in fact, everything is left to proceed on parallel tracks, without envisaging any progress, integration or betterment in the name of human dignity.
It is time for Europe to understand that religious law cannot prevail over civil law and that, above every form of tolerance, there is a country’s constitution. If this does not happen, Islam will be given carte blanche to colonize our customs.
NOTE :
1) The imam, who had lived in France for 24 years, did not understand the word “stoning”, which he understood to mean “beating”. Hence, his reply.
2) In UCOII’s translation, generally attributed to Hamza Piccardo (Imperia, 1994), the following note can be read “This is the ideal of the believing woman: ‘patient and modest.’ Says the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): “The best of women is she who rejoices at your gaze, obeys you, guards her person and the property of the husband in his absence.”
Was Muhammad a Sex Maniac?
From the Hadith:
Muslim (8:3309) – Muhammad married Aisha at the age of nine.
Bukhari (62:18) – Aisha’s father, Abu Bakr, wasn’t on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.
Muslim (8:3311) – The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad’s house (something to play with when the “prophet” was not having sex with her).
Bukhari (6:298) – Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.
Muslim (8:3460) – “Why didn’t you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she could sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?” Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an “older woman” instead.
Bukhari (4:232) – Muhammad’s wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it’s a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.
Bukhari (6:300) – Muhammad’s wives had to be available for the prophet’s fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.
Bukhari (62:6) – “The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives.” Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally – and it isn’t hard to guess why.
Bukhari (5:268) – “The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number.” I asked Anas, ‘Had the Prophet the strength for it?’ Anas replied, ‘We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.’ ”
So let me summarize:
Even if we accept a 54 year old man marrying a child, raping captured (non-believing) woman what does that make him?
Even we accept the unacceptable, what do you call a guy who rapes captured women and sells them into slavery?
Even if we accapt all that, what do you call a guy who has sex with 14 women in one night?
Did Muhammad, profit of Islam, drink wine? Yes he did!
Here’s more:
The Sex Life of the Prophet
Some of many jihad verses:
Qur’an:2:216 “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you , though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not.” [Another translation reads:] “Warfare is ordained for you.”
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Qur’an:8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
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Qur’an:8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”
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Bukhari:V4B52N44 “A man came to Allah’s Apostle and said, ‘Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad in reward.’ He replied, ‘I do not find such a deed.’”
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Bukhari:V1B2N25 “Allah’s Apostle was asked, ‘What is the best deed?’ He replied, ‘To believe in Allah and His Apostle Muhammad.’ The questioner then asked, ‘What is the next best in goodness?’ He replied, ‘To participate in Jihad, religious fighting in Allah’s Cause.’”
Arguing, debating with Muslims:
They will say:
1. He’s taking verses out of context
2. He’s an Islamophobe/racist/bigot
3. He doesn’t know Arabic, and you can’t understand the Qur’an unless it’s in Arabic
4. He’s not an expert on Islam/he has no credentials
5. The Qur’an, the mind of Muhammad, and Islam in general are too complex and mysterious for infidels to understand
6. What about the Crusades (and other violent Christian actions of the past)?
7. What about the violent verses in the Bible?
8. Those Muslims are not “real” Muslims
9. Only Muslims can address the tough topics
10. He’s lying
11. If you prove him wrong from Qur’an and Hadith, you just get ridiculed
12. He has been refuted hundreds of times, and thoroughly discredited
Muslims are hopeless. They can’t debate because Islam doesn’t make sense. They are victims of a senseless indoctrination program that devours them and their perceived enemies. More
Is Islam a Religion of Peace? Not!
The day after 9/11, President George W. Bush made the absurd statement that Islam is a religion of peace. Ponder the findings of a monumental study of the Islamic Trilogy, the Quran, the Hadith, and the Sira published in 2007. The study was made by Bill Warner, director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam:
- Of more than 153,000 words in the Koran, only 4,018 or 2.6 percent seem to express goodness to humanity, qualified, however, by obedience to Muhammad.
- The words of Allah are only about 17 percent of the Islamic Trilogy, but the words and actions of Muhammad comprise 83 percent of the Trilogy.
- About 20 percent of the most authoritative school of the Hadith is about jihad.
- At least 75 percent of the Sira is about jihad.
- There are 146 references to hell in the Quran, only 6 percent of which concern moral failings such as murder and theft. The other 94 percent of the reasons for being in Hell are for the intellectual sin of disagreeing with Muhammad, a political crime.
Warner concludes: there is no benevolence toward good nonbelievers in Islam. Moreover, and, contrary to what Obama said in Cairo, there is no golden rule in Islam that restricts what Muslims may do to non-Muslims. This places a big question on Islamic monotheism
Open Season on British Women (The Opinionator)
Now that Europe has imported a 7th century values system and given it top priority, the continent’s women will need to remember to cover up.
Debating Islam (Answering Muslims)
A four-part video series of a debate between David Wood and Sami Zaatari. The subject is “Is Islam a Religion of Peace?” (As usual, Sami’s job is to pretend that Islam has nothing to do with what is done in the name of Islam each and everyday).
Poll: Muslim Support for Terrorism Declines (Pew Research)
Muslims are less likely to support terrorism when THEY are the targets of such attacks. Thanks to recent al-Qaeda sprees in Islamic countries, bin Laden is barely pulling 50% approval ratings. Religion of Peace, indeed!
Child Rape and the Religion of Peace (CNN)
(Video) Parents express shock that their child is raped afterbeing “married off,” but then tell the girl that she belongs to her husband.
Sex in the Islamic City (FrontPage Magazine)
An ex-Muslim explains why Muhammad’s religion has been so successful in motivating young Muslim men to become “martyrs.”
We are Losing Europe to Islam (TownHall.com)
As a side note – If Europe goes Muslim, then where will the Muslims who have “fled” there have to flee next?
Our “Ally” Islamabad (The Australian)
One of America’s best buddies is in the process of becoming the world’s first nuclear-armed Sharia state.
Jihad for Love (FrontPage Magazine)
A new film exposes the very real persecution of homosexuals under Islam that goes far beyond mere disapproval.
‘She Doesn’t Want to be Called an Uncircumcised Girl’ (LiveLeak)
Video of female genital mutilation. Seriously, does this look natural?
Britain Adopts Sharia (Chronicles Magazine)
A must-read piece from Srdja Trifkovic.
When Someone Says You Shouldn’t Watch Something. . . (JSOnline)
. . . react accordingly. In this case, the film in question is the excellent documentary, Obsession: Radical Islam’s War against the West.
The al-Aqsa Myth (Europe News)
Just one more example of Islam’s attempt to borrow legitimacy from someone else’s religion.
(Joke) India vs. Pakistan at the UN (The Kashmir)
A bit of inside humor regarding the “disputed” region to which Pakistan lays claim.
Female Genital Mutilation in Eritrea (BBC)
Muslims in some parts of the world are beginning to realize that Allah wouldn’t have made the clitoris in the first place if he meant for it to be cut off. Women elsewhere. . . not so lucky.
Jordan’s Outreach to Hamas (JCPA)
The bonds of Islam are simply too strong to let a little thing like terrorism spoil relationships.
Gave Peace a Chance (Jerusalem Post)
A Peace Now activist in Israel reluctantly admits that his country has no peace partner in the Middle East.
No Longer One Law for All (Spectator)
“Sharia law is not compatible with English law or the principles of equality and human rights that it embodies.”
Fear and Fiction (FrontPage Magazine)
The story behind the story that was deemed too hot to handle.
Losing My Religion – Continued (Islam Watch)
The second piece to the story of a Muslim who decided that believing for the sake of believing wasn’t making much sense anymore.
From Magna Carta to Sharia: Britain’s Decline (Brussels Journal)
Labour has worked hard to give the cancer a foothold.
Islam and the Barbary Pirates (Islam in Action)
How did the Tripoli ambassador justifiy the plundering of ships and the enslaving of innocent people to Thomas Jefferson? Let’s just say the man knew his Qur’an.
Fleeing Malaysia (Islamist Monitor)
Only a few short years ago, the young country of Malaysia was held up as proof that a Muslim majority didn’t necessarily mean discrimination against other religions. Wonder what it means now?
Street Warfare in Denmark (The Opinionator)
More Islam – less peace.
Wildcatting for Allah (Max Flack)
Somalis in Colorado demand special privileges for themselves, but how do they treat other religions back home?
Islam at Face Value (Europe News)
A lot of insight into Islam can be gained from the first few verses of the Qur’an. Unfortunately, little of it is good.
The Hatred within Britain (The Telegraph)
These investigators were shocked to find that hatred exists within British mosques. Other than that, there’s nothing humorous in this article.
Honor Killings in Islam (FSM)
“What kind of an ideology causes a man to show no remorse for murdering his own daughter, but then rant and rave at being served ham sandwiches while in prison?”
Fighting for the Right to Incite Murder (Pajamas Media)
The Muslim Student Union is fighting hard to keep hate alive.
The Islamic Suicide Bomber
Dead Mumbai Headbanger
| “Sharia Is Hate” |
By Supna Zaidi
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, October 06, 2008
Imagine Dodger Stadium full of loud and whooping fans cheering on, not baseball, but your weekly stoning and flogging of adulterers, thieves and other errant citizens of southern California.
This is America under Islamic law, or Shari’a, a system that everyone should fear. Or so, Alan Kornman, director of the United American Committee (UAC) thinks. He continues to fundraise for a freeway billboard in Florida stating, “Shari’a Is Hate,” to educate America before it’s too late.
As Kornman argues, “under Shari’a law if you are accused of stealing, a hand and foot from opposite sides are amputated. If you are caught having an affair, the woman is stoned to death and the man is given 80 lashes. If you change religions, you can be charged under apostasy laws and given the death sentence by a legal Sharia court.”
The implementation of Shari’a is much more subtle than the quotation from Kornman suggests, however.
Through Shari’a, Islamists govern the private lives of individuals as well as regulate the social, political, and economic aspects of society. Islamism crosses national borders, with the final goal of asserting the Muslim ummah globally, with all non-Muslims as second class citizens. It is a totalitarian ideology, and Islamists do want to make Europe and the US Islamist states.
Don’t wait for floggings in your local neighborhood. Consider the following incidences:
1. Muslim cab drivers in Minneapolis refusing fares where would-be passengers are carrying alcohol because it is a sin to drink in Islam:
This first example exemplifies the lack of tolerance Islamists have for non-Muslims. It is one thing to believe drinking is a sin; it’s quite another to enforce your opinion on others. Muslims aren’t alone in this belief. Consider Mormons, who don’t drink coffee because of the caffeine. The problem is the belief that you have the right to impose your opinion on people of a different faith, or no faith at all.
The Metropolitan Airport Commission (MAC), possibly fearing charges of discrimination, tried to compromise and approached Kahlid Elmasry of the Muslim American Society, who sided with the cabbies: “it is expressly stated transportation of alcohol for Muslims is against the Islamic faith, and therefore forbidden.”
But this is not an Islamic country. The Constitution governs us, not Shari’a. Therefore, Elmasry’s defense of the cabbies’ position reinforced their notion that Islamic law trumps American secular law. In a later lawsuit, the cabbies lost and intend to appeal.
2. Niqabi fails to reveal face for ID purposes.
The second example concerns Muslim women and modesty. While there is no specific definition of what modesty entails in the Quran, Islamists increasingly demand the niqab, which covers a woman’s body, hair, and her face. Islamists refuse to concede that the niqab is not a requirement of Islam, but greatly debated among Muslims. Yet, when Americans raise security concerns, Islamists call them racist.
Consider, Sultana Freeman, a niqabi in Florida. She refused to remove her veil for picture identification purposes at the DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) citing modesty. In reality, she mocks any reasonable person’s definition of modesty since ID pictures have nothing to do with attraction and sexuality, completely ignoring Florida’s right to identify its citizenry for the sake of public safety. Such blind adherence to Shari’a rather than the laws of the state exemplifies the disdain Islamists have for non-Muslims wherever they may live as well as common sense.
3. Polygamy in America
United States are obligated to perform their duties within the limits of American secular law. Yet, some Imams, like Siraj Wahhaj, prefer to ignore American law where it conflicts with Islamic law. Wahhaj stated in Paul Barrett’s 2007 book American Islam* that, “If a man can have a hundred girlfriends, and it’s legal, I don’t say you can’t have more than one wife.”
Rather than explain what is wrong with men having multiple relationships, Wahhaj greenlights it under the guise of polygamy despite American law against it. This is because he only sees relationships from a usurious male perspective when he should be teaching men to see women as equals and partners. Moreover, he ignores a woman’s perspective entirely. Subsequent wives have no legal rights. Family problems, domestic abuse, combined with economic dependency, forces women to remain silent when issues arise.
Wahhaj also ignores the criminal fraud behind polygamy as well. The UK, Canada, like theUS, face welfare fraud every time polygamous marriages are made. Subsequent wives live in a marital household, yet can file for welfare as single women because they failure to register the marriage. The failure to register is not an accident. Polygamous couples know that if they file they will be arrested for violating local bigamy laws. Second, these couples realize the financial advantages given current welfare policy. Such fraud is occurring in the thousands and is a burden to all taxpayers.
It is time for policymakers to realize that Sharia is a system of hate and must not gain any influence in American society. It denigrates women, non-Muslims and the US Constitution. Policymakers must define the limits of religious accommodation in light of the Islamist agenda. Otherwise, democracy and true tolerance will be mere words with no meaning as Islamism spreads in the West. The UAC billboard is a good start in bringing the danger of Sharia to the nation’s attention.
Greetings from sheik yer’mami!
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SM,
There is no conflict between science and religion, or at least there shouldn’t be. Religion provides “answers” to the questions that science cannot answer, and science, by definition, cannot ever encroach into pure religious grounds. By definition science can never provide “all the answers” with certainly. The uncertain areas are often the province of religion. On the other hand, religion often does try to encroach into area of science for which religion is unequipped and cannot provide any proper solutions. Muslims often blur, or apply an astoundingly poor comprehension of these matters. As an aside, islam depends mosts only high birth rates, violence, bribery, and deceit to grow – there are very few honest conversions to islam – so we agree on this point.
SC,
1) regarding science
Have already seen these “proof” of islamic contribution through the quran – and all are sufficiently debuńked – also on the internet..
YOU provide what YOU believe to be proof, moron. And then I will show you where you are wrong!!! Do we have to tell you how to think. you islamic moron????? You really are quite a dullard.
2) It is debatable as to whether the people you refer to were ever priests. Available records do not support the islamic contention that these people were priests. Again, there are a large number of priests in the world, and it is possible that a few converted to pislam, But more people leave islam than join. islamic growth is achieved through high birth rate and violent coercion – not conversion. And it is likely that there are Christian priests who once followed satin, sorry, mohammed the child molester, but the numbers are harder to find on account of the mandatory death sentence that muslims use against people who wish to leave pislam. Again your sources are lacking in credibility and again a muslim resorts to dishonesty to try and prove a point, whilst failing miserably.
What is it with muslims .- why are you so incapable of intelligent argument – and nothing you have written here since the time you started to pollute these site has been intelligent. I have merely responsed in kind to you.
NOW YOU WRITE YOUR CASE and stop wasting band-space. Do we have to teach you how to think??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dear kaw
you seem to have real problem just seeing the way you express yourself
you seem to be near a nervous breakdown, or you must be on drugs!
you give the impression to be crazy!
unsure of yourself, scare, lost, near to murder!!!
put yourself together, be intelligent! cause you give the impression of the contrary to intelligent!!!!
Cohen,
SC was asked to provide HIS proof, as he claims, of scientific advancement in the quran. There are, of course none. My emails to him are of a lower form reserved for mindless violent thugs – muslims in other words. Your response amuses me, because you seem to be the one on drugs or near a nervous break-down. The only person near to murder is a hysterical muslim, of which group there is a significant probability that you are a member. I suggest that instead of screaming, you learn to think. Analysis of your blurb suggests quite strongly that you are likely to be a muslim arab. Like your logic, your English is sufficiently poor to make analysis difficult but there are enough positive markers to support my claim.. I suggest abdul or mohammed or whomever you are, that if you don’t like the way you and your co-religionists are viewed, then you should persuade them to behave like decent human beings. I am still waiting for the proofs from the idiot muslim called SC (its moniker is an insult to crocodiles but possibly a rather apt description of a muslim – a rather dangerous and unintelligent monster driven by basic instinct only) to which I will appropriately respond. Now David, I am sure that you are breaking your bedtime curfew so you had better go to bed before your parents catch you and give you the thrashing you deserve. Next time do your rant in front of a mirror – at least one person will hear it then!!. Now piss off!
Have a nice sleep and learn to count to ten – use your fingers as a guide!
Hello Qibtis from the Nile,
You brought up the topic of conversion to Islam and now you are paranoid over numbers of converts! It shows your true colours–yellow, if you know what I mean. Or is it a blank- white devoid of any intelligence?
Your stand on science explains why many christian scientists became atheists.Your Bible’s chapter on Genealogy and the Great flood just put them off–for there are many holes, more than what appear on your mattress.
Our knowledge in science as well as in religion is limited due to our
imperfection. they are both merely a shadow of what is to come.
Again, numbers of religious adherents don’t impress me because not
all followers are real believers, animism remains the worlds leading
“religion” whether people believe/except it or not.
my dear kwa
one last thing,
the only way you express your self is with insults and hatred you don’t know anything else !!!bet your father was like that! he must have insulted or beatten your mother you probably saw that all your life! that’ s why today you are a bit derranged and full of hate ! we anderstand it’s not your fault!!!!! maybe you was raped too!!
you see;thta’s why you react with such little compassion and anderstanding!!!
my dear kaw
one last thing
the only way to express yourself is with insultand hatred!
it looks like that’s the way you’ve probably been brought up
you probably had a father who insulted his wife or even beat her up! you must have seen that all your life so obviously you detained on him
so you became a small individual with no compassion and no anderstanding! a poor man a a failure if you prefer
well we anderstand!! not you fault!!!!!
cohen,
you are a simple fool – learn to count to ten muslim troll, and stop bothering the people here. And specifically, you are treated as you deserve to be treated – with contempt and disdain. You deserve nothing more and a great deal less.
SC
present your proofs or stop wasting time. Your comment is otherwise not worth a response.
SM
number of religious adherents means nothing (we agree) because it is a quantity that is so imprecisely defined. However, when muslims like SC lie then some comment is required. Animism is followed by the majority of the worlds people – monotheism has generally not been very healthy – and muslims are a prime example. Probably the most healthy system has been Buddhism (and there is no God in Buddhism) because its followers learn that they are responsible for their own thoughts and actions – again something that muslims seem unable to comprehend.
In any case SC – you do appear to be similar to your moniker in nature ´- primitive and driven by instinct. I suggest you and cohen both scream at a mirror. At least we can laugh at your logic but laughing at an impaired mind is really not very funny at all. Go back to the mosque and rant there – they might be interested.
Hello,
Cohen , you must be related to the Levis and I agree with your statements on Kaw.Kaw’s response seemed as incoherent as the maths he learned in Christianity: 1+1+1=1
His rantings and groans reminds me of the depravity of his whole self–
also he seems unintelligent ( an euphemism for imbecile ).Better respond to SM or is SMa.k.Kaw?Whatever.
The mutual anger expressed between different opinionated people
is understandable but not diplomatic, anger is a bad counselor.
monotheism, dualism and trinitarianism are all falling short to
describe the Being of YHWH.
Kaw, you are right about Buddhism not acknowledging a god,
still the essence of this religion to harmonize completely with nature
is a sheer impossibility not withstanding that it is probably the most diciplined religion on earth.
SC, Kaw and me can’t be the same; if you would have read carefully you would have noticed that he is in europe and that i am in north america.
although that fact can be circumvented easily nowadays because if
one has relatives/friends in another part of the world they can easily pose under the monniker by posting e-mailed messages from the first.
That is not the case here, but it is known that many posted comments
under different monnikers on this web-site; solkar was an example,
moslima, muslem, SC (NZ) could be otman (malaysia?) rock jansome=
noori ?. the Sheik could probably shed more light on this.
Or maybe Paul of Tasaurus claiming to be inspired by G_d ?
It’s GOD say it, man ! Why the ‘fear’ yet you have blasphemised HIM with your Trinity–God in substance and god in form Pauline ideas.
Listen to these ex Paulines:
Arius-”-God in essence is ever existent(eternal ) .If Jesus is the son ,there must be a time when Jesus did not exist-he is not eternal therefore he is not god.”
Francis David–” Scriptures nowhere teaches anything about a triple god.”
Fausto Paolo Sozimi “-Doctrine of Atonement means that God’s law is no longer binding on man since his sins has already been paid.” So why penalised the Oklahoma bomber or Irish anti British fighters?
Biddle-”The Holy Spirit is distinguished from God.He that is distinguished from God is not God”.
YOU HAVE BEEN INFORMED.IT’ S YOUR CHOICE.
SM
I am not posting under your name, Perhaps the idiot called SC is confused again – no problems – let it rant. SC may be posting from Australia which means our immigration policy is failing. However, I might get around to tracking it down when I get time. I agree with your comment:
“you are right about Buddhism not acknowledging a god,
still the essence of this religion to harmonize completely with nature
is a sheer impossibility not withstanding that it is probably the most diciplined religion on earth.”
My comment to this is:
that is the test and the point of Buddhism – to achieve perfection – which is for us rather difficult.
Once again SC – YOUR PROOFS. Again you illustrate that you have failed to understand the concept of the trinity – it is not that subtle – you (SC) are just rather unintelligent and spectacularly so. 1+1+1=3 but one can propose that infinity + infinity + infinity = 3 * infinity = infinity. Here the sum of three quantities (infinity) has the identical properties to the single quantity. There is of course another 0 + 0 + 0 = 0 which seems trivial but is not, at least from a philosophical point of view. I an reasonably certain that SC has not understood any of this.
Folks, please notice the trademark of the islamist – when challenged it reverts into the spoilt child that it is – thank you for demonstrating this SC. What I have written was quite understandable, at least for those of average intelligence. I guess that you and cohen dont quite cut the grade. You are treated with contempt and derision because that is what you deserve.
“”There is of course another 0 + 0 + 0 = 0 which seems trivial but is not, at least from a philosophical point of view. ”’
Your philosophical rendering does not make sense to ordinary folks who happened to make up 99.99% of the populace of every nation on earth.That’s the reasons for handing out money and sweets– to force people to accept
that ridiculous notion, is it? You may turn them to atheists if they subscribe to that 0+0+0=0 philosophy.Brand them stupid or not sophisticated enough to understand Pauline’s distortions of facts.The fact is it’s utter confusing.Brilliant surgeons, scientists, writers and ex priests found the concept confusing .call them stupid if you wish.
The reality is they will readily understand and accept that there is only God without partners.Such a simple but effective concept.No frills.
As I surmised, you are incapable of understanding the argument. Nothing else needs to be said. Typical mohammedan reasoning – when you cannot argue you bluster, and then reverse the argument in another direction where you feel comfortable. Why ever did my government let you into Oz – never mind – you will be deported soon enough. And again – within the trinity concept there is only 1 (one) God. It is sad to see you struggle with the concept but one should not laugh at disadvantaged people. Most Christians understand the concept – whether they agree with it or not is another issue – but you have again shown the truly low level that the mohammedan mind infests. Thanks!
Paul of Tarsus (was Saul) was inspired by YHWH Ruach.
Jehoshuva ha Moshiach was from before the foundation of the world.
YHWH always existed, which is not possible in human terms.
The atonement is not automatically applicable to everybody;
the oklahoma bomber was not a believer, nor does being a
catholic or protestant guaranties salvation.
Holy Spirit different from God; yes and no,
jewish concept leaves possibility open.
greek concept says one or the other.
all god descriptions are god-limitations and /or
god-restrictions.
Scripture shows YHWH multi-manifestational.
Being ONE is beyond human comprehension
YHWH is really ONE, a human being is not.
That is the difference.
SM,
You may not agree with this, but there is a interesting difference in what you believe (at least from what I can infer from your emails) and Buddhism. You recognize that the state of “divinity” – this is probably an inappropriate word but I am rather tired at present – is a goal that is unattainable for humans, but buddhists seek to attain a “enightened” state over several cycles . however this is not the “divine” state of God, but rather an elevated consciousness which is closer to “perfection” – perfection here being a relative word that only a Buddhist master could propbably explain from the Buddhist perpective. In any case, the significant difference between these concepts and the main stream religions is that many followers of main stream religions abrogate theiir responsibilities as a consequence of their interpretation/unserstanding of what their religion requires – and this is a very dangerous state of affairs as evidenced by the stagnation of islam.
Kaw,
All religions on earth are human work trying to obtain a better level
by works. (still imperfect naturally)
The true Kahal Yhwh is /and will be/ formed by the Divine Being and
not through human efforts.
This earthly life is just a shadow of what is to come, one hundred years
is not enough to understand, learn and experience everything.
That is what the Eternal Life is for.
Concerning believers fleeing their responsibilities in this life, i know
what you mean, from human viewpoint it is dangerous indeed,
though from the Divine perspective it won’t matter, YHWH will
realise all plans anyway in spite of all human imperfectness.
Well I do agree SM, Religion, as we understand it, is a human concept. One senses something “on the other side” beyond our grasp and understanding, and we try to understand in different ways. I understand your other points as well – they are valid – the question is an open one, as the truth is that each individual sees what only she/he can see w.r.t. to these questions ["only" is meant here to imply that each individual has a unique perspective].
Hello guys,
Go on show off your philosophy repertoire and have fun BETWEEN
you.The ordinary hardworking people could not be bothered with philosophies–they have livelihoods to earn, mouths to feed and will be satisfied with a simple, direct, no words gymnastics concept of One God with no nonsensical concepts of indwelling etc.
Only priests will make knowing God a difficult thing, hence the G_d thing , for a reason which is normally self benefits.
Quran-9:34-”O YOU WHO BELIEVE! THERE ARE INDEED MANY AMONG THE PRIESTS AND AUTHORITIES, WHO IN FALSEHOOD DEVOUR THE SUBSTANCE OF MEN AND HINDER (THEM ) FROM THE WAY OF GOD…”
Piss you useless moron SC – and please explain why you should not be judicially executed for preaching your poisonous followings of a child molesting rapist in a non-muslim country.
Please note folks – the idiot muslim cannot argue so it simply bleats out verses from its poisonous book.
I am not going to ask SC again for its proofs – it has none and cannot provide any.
A work of warning SC – I have given your details to some folks – you are now under observation. You do NOT speak for the working men and women in Australia, Those folks are considerable brighter than you and they do not need a retarded muslim pig as a religious advisor from a group of child molesting rapists called muslims.
SC,
If you have been hassling the Aboriginal people you will be in very big trouble – take that as advice not to do so. These folks have enough to contend with, despite the fact that they are talented and intelligent, and they do not need advice from you on how to run their lives. It is curious that many muslims spend their lives destroying in honor of their “prophet” whereas aboriginals saw themselves as caretakers of the enviroment – we need that more than we need morons with burqas, qurans, guns, and very bad attitudes. You people demonstrate from your behavior on a daily basis just how undesirable you are. And by the way, if you (muslims) were just different you would be accepted. But you are not just different – you seek to impose your failed customs onto others thereby destroying them as well. You will not be allowed to do so. This is not a racist statement – it is a statement against a very dangerous cult that seeks to destroy all (and that is what the evidence over the last 1000 years tells us). We follow the laws of our land, so unless you declare war we will not hurt you physically, but we can have you removed from our shores as a very significant potential danger.
A note to the police and DFAT officials who will read this – you are meant to protect the people of Australia – not make it a home for islamic fruitcakes (violent or non-violent – actually is there such a thing as a non-violent islamist – I do not believe so). Do your job properly!!!
SC
You missed the point again,
what you describe as philosophy repertoire is an exchange of view-
points, as many people seem to have reading, comprehension and
attention problems these days (and a short memory span), it becomes more difficult to convey certain things.
i can’t say that jews, muslims, upci-christians are doing good work
with their oneness theory, nor does the world-wide church of god
with its family-theory, nor the majority of christians with the trinity
theory, it is all too much theory to be real doctrine!
Sorry to say, but religious knowledge is no substitute for real Spiritual
manifestation, revelation, experience, inspiration, vision, wisdom &
knowledge. without all this you will never get out of “the natural”
carnality earthbound influenced indoctrinations.
SM.
Who are the upci-christians with oneness theory?
I already have a sense of bondship with them.
Btw Qibtis and Europeans , Muslim Makassaran traders have touched base with the Warlpiri people long before you guys set foot in Uluru.Being good people, the traders did not even think of colonising .
SC, once again you are lying – muslim visits to that region are imagined – chinese visits on the other hand are probably not.. You have no kinship with the aboriginal people – and their strories do not mention your imaginary muslims.
If you are hassling these people you will be dealt with. As for muslims not colonising – well you did that in Africa and you devastated entire regions! That is the second lie in your email – can you ever tell a truth. Again folks. we see a muslim liar in action with imagined histories and dishonest histories. The African slave trade was basically a muslim business enterprise – just a little more of your peaceful muslim behavior. BTW – notification of your location and activities has just reached me and it seems that you are up to no good. So expect a visit soon from some suits – and pack a bag. Good riddance to bad news.
SC,
The united pentecostal church international is the largest christian
denomination that believes in the sole oneness of God.
I doubt you will like their doctrines; there is only one God and his name is Jesus. water-baptism as condition to be part of the church, dress codes and a generalized eschatology, baptism in Holy Spirit, glossolalia etc.
Mr Kaw,
You say “If you are hassling these people you will be dealt with. As for muslims not colonising – well you did that in Africa and you devastated entire regions! ”
Firstly, it is not the Muslims who have been harrassing the Walpiri and other tribes from Kanberra to Alice Springs. ( Hey, that’s a coloniser’s substitution of a native name ) This real mistreatment of natives by ‘settlers ‘ happened for most of last 100 years.
Secondly, not only is your maths so poor, you always compare oranges with apples. I was referring to the Makassar Muslim traders from Sulawesi Indonesia.The distance between the two melanesian islands are much shorter compared to Uluru and white’s homelands and yes upper Nile, Egypt.Hence, trading and interfacing did occur.No record? Do you understand Tiwi or Laragiya ?
Thirdly, not only are your maths and English comprehension poor, your knowledge on history is not good either.The ones that devastated Africa are the whites–Afrikaans and boers from tiny Netherlands- they practiced that hideous apartheid but at the same time promoting their hundreds of denominations of Christiniaty. the Portugese and lately the Americans arms suppliers and manufacturers playing off rivals in Angola, Mozambique and North Africa. The apartheid by the Christian Dutch and English settlers are the worst kind of slavery in human history.
So, WHO IS LYING? But your inadvertent slip ups is excusable.Just practice your maths, read more books and be cognisance of local and world history.You will be ok.
U mother fucker i will fuck u fifty crore times.
i will fuck u in ur house
i will burst ur heart
i will break ur bones
i will make ur fiftycrore peices
lastly u will beg for my sperm.
The arabs were slave-traders long before the europeans started.
Apartheid vs Slave trading
Slave trading was the norm pre 19 th century ,it was practised everywhere.
Barbaric Europe in 10th century practised it widely.
But they are pale and mild when compared to the utmost
despicable, vulgar and sheer disregard for human dignity of
APARTHEID practised by the God fearing Christian whites of South Africa and Klu Klux Klan of US.
Mr Kaw,
We coloured people, you , Sheikh and me are united against apartheid in what ever form.We disagree with white christians or white Muslims or white Indians from India who look down on people just because God made us less white than them and we are of lower castes than them.The latter is human’s idiotic innovations.
Agree? Or do you think you are a white?
Wrong on all counts, SC.
Institutionalized discrimination and slavery is part of sharia and the ‘immutable’ Koran. In your scriptures, it says Muhammad was ‘a white man’ and he called blacks ‘raisin heads’ who’s hearts are more cross than a donkeys. Slavery and discrimination is still widely practised in Africa and Arabia by Muslims, so I’m not sure what you’re aiming at.
I don’t think you are educated enough to comment on Arab slave trade, which goes back more than 1000 years before Muhammad invented his so called religion.
You will be gone soon SC – despite your little game you have been located and you will be dealt with. Since the process involves official bodies this is my last response to your rubbish. You are a fool, you have proved this adequately and that is all there is to say. The color of your skin has nothing to do with the issues.
My people are also watching you.
Any serious threats on harming me will be reported to local authorities
and INTERPOL.
Apartheid and segregation were not worse than slavery.
Living discriminated under both (wrong) systems was preferable than living as a slave of the roman empire.
but there are more bad examples.
Folks – when you do some “research” you need to use more than Google, which is often incorrect. Some examples of where Goggle is wrong include the degree of muslim interaction with mainland Australian aboriginal tribal peoples (effectively none) which was been copied and used in recent emails by a muslim moron. There are many others – the problem is that Google cannot verify all entries placed into their search engines. So if you want to investigate a issue dig up the literature – Google is NOT sufficient.
A proper literature search also shows that West and Central Africa were effectively decimated by arab muslim attacks and slave raids well before the Europeans arrived. Early European explorers often reported on the trail of bodies left behind arab muslim slave caravans (see e.g. Livingstone, Stanley,
The role of the Boers is very minor in comparison. One of the major problems in africa, islam , is now a very active virus and it represents a major impediment to the continents march into the future.
You idiots,
I am from that part of Indonesia, there are local traditions on that trading activities.It happened about 400 years ago which is a recent history.
Do not try to be intelligent (You are actually a moron ) and start lecturing on Google research data.You and that imbecile Sheikh have been using Google for your anti Islam articles.If your naseuting reasoning is accepted then BY YOUR OWN ADMISSIONS, ALL the ‘facts” you posted in this on Islam are unreliable and lies. These lies are the most dangerous virus and you people are riding on these lies and deceit to make MONEY.
SM,
Try telling apartheid is not worse that slavery to Mr Nelson Mandela.The problem with you people is you argue for argument sake especially when the perpetrators of apartheid were Christians in religion but racists in outlook.Apartheid is colonising a WHOLE country and totally enslaving the natives not only with total restrictions in their own land but contaminating them with crappy ideas like trinity.What could be more worse than that?
Thanks for showing us again that you rather silly SC. I never said that apartheid was worse or better than slavery. I simply inferred that the long term consequences of arab muslim tyranny will be affecting Africa a long time after apartheid is forgotten. And apartheid is practised by muslim states on the basis of religion, not color. Can you understand that ? The trouble with you is that you are not intelligent but since you think you are … sit in a corner and argue with yourself all day – stop wasting other people’s time. Still having problems with the trinity are you!! Sadly it seems that the concept is far beyond your capacity for understanding. Actually, I do not know it is is true of not – it is a concept of faith – but one that can be expressed exactly with a sufficiently advanced understanding of set theory. What could be worse? A silly muslim who knows nothing but continues to advise others on what they should believe . that do for starters. You are becoming rather tiresome. BTW, I am not quite sure how we are making money out of telling the truth??? Actually you are rapidly becoming an excellent example of how many muslims revert to primeval behavior when challenged, Have a nice day (sarcasm here).
you are totally right SM I AGREE WITH YOU !
what an idiotic name SALTI CROCODILE …….. I don’t know what!!
you seem to be such an IDIOT SALTI CROCIDILE so childish !!!
SC, you seem to have some reading/comprehension problems,
i was not defending apartheid or segregation, but there were societies
in history were slaves were far worse off than black people under
apartheid or segregation: slaves with no rights whatsoever treated as
things objects or possession, you want to tell me that the slaves of the
roman empire 2000 years ago were better treated than blacks in South Africa & USA during last century?
if you do you are making a bias-acxtivated political statement.
Also it doesn’t seems to get to you that i don’t believe in extreme
oneness (judaism, islam), twoness (wwcog/rcog) or threeness theories
(90% of christianity).
Mr Kaw,
“Actually, I do not know it is is true of not – it is a concept of faith – but one that can be expressed exactly with a sufficiently advanced understanding of set theory”
Faith WITHOUT knowing if it is true ! Be reasonable to yourself.Learn your religion, understand it and practice it.This is not sarcasm– just an advice from another Godfearing human being.
David cohen,
Have you seen a saltwater crocodile? Can you differentiate it from a fish?
You are not to be blamed if you can’t.Tryng to make sense of trinity do play havoc with your brain.
SC – you are a simple fool – you have understood very little of what has been written to you. There is a very big difference between accepting something as being true through faith and knowing it to be true. But since you cannot understand this, or the implications thereof, there is little point in further explanation. Again you refer to the trinity .. you do not understand the concept .. so why do you keep referring to it??? We evolved to be intelligent thinking creatures – and religion is simply a device we have created ourselves. I find it interesting that the muslim god requires unthinking rigid obedience to a set of pointless rules – as typified by your rather silly contributions to discussion on these pages – whereas other religions require that one at least uses one brain. Stay in the cesspit called islam SC – like your moniker you are a primitive violent savage driven only by instinct.
Kaw, at least the saltie is predictable and largely avoidable – the muslim can detonate without warning, & the “allahu ackbar” might come too late.
The rubbish bins weren’t removed from the station platforms because of crocodiles.
“as being true through faith ”
Mr Kaw– that is blind faith ak stupidity.
“muslim god requires unthinking rigid obedience to a set of pointless rules”
Mr Kaw— that again points to your stupid ignorance.Tawhid is the most important branch of knowledge in Islam,it concerns KNOWING and then
BELIEVING God.No blind faith here.
ML
The rubbish bins are for your crappy trinity concepts.
SC,
Your last email shows how silly you are. Faith is blind – by definition. So you have once again proved that you are a mindless muslim drone incapable of any real thought. And again, why do you keep wishing to discuss the trinity, a concept that you have shown you are incapable of understanding. I find your statement “knowing God” rather laughable. Assuming that God does exists, a being of infinitely more capability than man, you claim to understand him- LOL. What you actually understand is a perverted rapist and child molester’s concept of God – a flawed concept delivered by a flawed human who was a violent thug and who was called mohammed (piss and vomit upon its head). And you have the nerve in your arrogance and stupidity to tell us all that ignorant cretins like mohammed and you have the sole right to determine who or what God is. Stop wasting this space.
” (piss and vomit upon its head). ” likewise to your “saint” Paul of Tasarus or tasaus, whatever. A real physical embodiment of Iblees and satan.The parasite innovator and liar having the gall to claim to know Jesus.The Roman
Emperor’s balls licker.Yet you and others are moronic , imbecile .idiotic not to realise that fact! WAKE UP people, you have been duped.
Peace be upon Messengers to Muslim Jews; Moses and Jesus, Peace be upon Muhammad.
Kaw,
“I find your statement “knowing God” rather laughable. ”
Is knowing God, something alien to you? Is it made out of bounds to you?
My,my … what a waste.
Could it be the belief in the images; the cross, the picture of a bearded handsome guy ( white man ?) dressed in rags or that anguished semi naked man on the cross or the cross itself constrained you to learn to know who God really is?
You really are stupid SC. You cannot ever understand a being that transcends your development by an infinite magnitude. You are a good example. In every one of your messages you show that you are incapable of understanding what people here have answered to your often inane comments. And you claim to know God!!! You do not – you only understand the rabid mumblings of a arab rapist. And your last sentence of your last email is really a projection of your lack of understanding and lack of respect for another faith that is followed by more people than there are mohamedans. The interesting thing, SC, is that islamic morons like you cannot learn, and continue to shoot themselves in their feet every time they open their mouths.
You are too stupid to even contemplate INTELLIGENTLY what God is, so do not try to tell us what he is and as for the trivial and trite question of his appearance – well you can waste time on that if you wish. You are really wasting space SC – you have nothing to offer. Sheik – can you prevent this moron from posting again – he is just wasting our time.
“lack of respect for another faith that is followed by more people than there are ”
Now you are talking like you have a brain.
KETTLE CALLING THE POT BLACK SYNDROME ?
GROW UP!
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