Love Letter to Australia from a Turkish Migrant

With thanks to Gramfan

I just picked this up from the comments section and I think its worthwhile to reprint the whole text including the link right here:,21985,21091961-5006029,00.htmlI

It sure makes good reading and it will warm many hearts. But I’m afraid something is missing. Guess what?

I will comment later. For now I invite your comments:

I’m so proud to be an Aussie
John Ilhan

January 21, 2007 12:00am
Article from: Sunday Herald Sun

JOHN Ilhan writes: IT’S an important time to consider what it really means to be an Australian.

Australia Day is just around the corner, allowing us to express our patriotic feelings with pride.

Australia has given me everything. It has embraced Crazy John’s and allowed it to become a successful company employing hundreds of people. I met an Australian girl from Hawthorn who became my wife and now we are a loving family of six following the recent proud birth of our son.

Of course, nationalism can also be misdirected, as the events of the first day at the Australian Open showed when the destructive side of patriotic jingoism raised its ugly head. No matter what our background, we are Australians.

The loyalty first and foremost to Australia should also be remembered by some religious leaders, including some radical Muslim leaders in Australia, who pretend to speak for the faith, but instead promote intolerance and hatred. These thankfully are in the minority, but they should respect Australian laws and not preach division and fear. If they cannot respect Australian law then they should have their citizenship revoked or not be allowed back in the country if they are living overseas.

My Muslim faith qualifies me to strongly denounce any racist and inflammatory comments made by any Muslim leaders because they perpetuate a stereotype that is unhelpful and dangerous.

I am the proud son of Turkish parents. I missed out on being born in Australia by a few years, but each day I thank my lucky stars that I came to this country. Most people came to this country to build a better life. They should be thankful and grateful to be here. Therefore immigrants must learn the Australian way of life, culture and learn the English language.

For many Australians, the true awakening of our national identity was at Gallipoli. Each year thousands of young Australians travel to the Turkish coast to discover the sacrifices and courage shown by those young Anzacs in World War I.

In recent years there has been a growing appreciation also of the courage and determination shown by the Turkish troops in that battle.

I had relatives who fought in the First World War against the Anzacs, yet today, if there was another world war, I would fight for Australia without hesitation. I would die for this country.

I love Australia for what it stands for. It embraces opportunity, inclusion and, most important of all, mateship. What Australia has taught me is that if you give something – like the hand of friendship or provide a service that fulfils a need – you will be repaid many times over. They say that America is the “land of opportunity”, but I say Australia is. I’m a good example – a boy from Broadmeadows made good.

That is also why I am giving back to the community in the form of the llhan Food Allergy Foundation to promote research and education into food allergies that affect hundreds of thousands of Australians.

On Australia Day, I am lucky enough to be playing the role of an ambassador and will speak to a gathering of people in Melbourne about my family and what it means to be Australian. It will be a chance to celebrate with others what was the best decision my family ever made — to come to this wonderful country and the great city of Melbourne.

Australia doesn’t owe us anything – we owe Australia.

JOHN ILHAN is founder and chief executive of mobile phone chain Crazy John’s.

24 thoughts on “Love Letter to Australia from a Turkish Migrant”

  1. this guy represents 90pc of the muslims in Australia. Hard working, law abiding good people.

  2. You wish!

    But since just about all of the claims you formerly made were false you have little crediblity. Besides: Most of us don’t believe that doing da’wa, wudu and other Islamic activities to bring us the sharia is ‘hard work’. Why don’t you present us with a survey on the real or perceived benefits of Muhammedan immigration to Australia?

    Refute this:

    There is scarcely a single non-Muslim inhabitant of England, France, Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Spain, or any other country in Western Europe who, knowing what he now knows, or perceives, would not, if he could rewind the clock, undo the policy of permitting large-scale — or even small-scale — immigration by Muslims, and almost all, if not all, of such inhabitants would gladly, if they could, have halted all Muslim immigration altogether. It has become a permanent security nightmare, and a permanent threat to the legal and political institutions, and social arrangements, everywhere accepted in the Western world. That large-scale Muslim presence has required tens of billions of dollars to be spent, now and forevermore, on monitoring of Muslim populations and guarding airports, train stations, subway stations, bus terminals, airplanes and trains and busses, ports, government buildings, churches and synagogues, all identifiably Jewish institutions including day-schools, all the most important Christian sites (such as the Vatican), museums (whose contents offend Muslim sensibilities) and much more. Every country in the West has developed institutions, laws, has permitted the free inquiry that permits the enterprisee of science, has created conditions for the creation of works of art, none of which, and not for one minute, could have been created by Muslims or under Islamic rule.

    And everywhere in the Lands of the Infidels the large-scale presence of Muslims has created a situation of much greater unpleasantness, expense, and physical insecurity than would exist without such a presence. That no one in Western Europe now denies; the quarrel is over what can or should be done about that.

    Refute this!

  3. I wish too!!

    Thanks Sheik. It made intersting reading.

    Jihadi: (please note I have spelled your user-name correctly.)

    Does that mean that 90% of OZ muslims are of Turkish origin?
    Or does it mean that 90% of OZ muslims do not support Hilali or the so-called “Firebrand” shiek who was caught out this week,,,er,,saying what he really thinks in English?
    Are you aganst either of them?
    Do you think Hilali should run for parliament?
    Is Keysar Trad an asset to the muslim community in Australia?
    Are Walid Shoebat and Noni Darwish moderate muslims in your opinion?
    Do moderate muslims exist?

    Since you are part of this community am interested in your thoughts.


    Very OT. Thought I might include this piece for all who have not come across it:

    Definitions of tu quoque on the Web:(source: Google)

    An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin, literally “argument [aimed] at the person”, but usually translated as “argument to the man”), is a logical fallacy that involves replying to an argument or assertion by addressing the person presenting the argument or assertion rather than the argument itself or an argument pointing out an inconsistency between a view expressed by an individual and the remainder of his or her beliefs.

  4. to Grimfan,
    why don’t you do some research?
    do you have any idea how many muslim doctors, dentists, school teachers, CEOs, small business owners, etc etc etc are in Australia ?
    You should be more concerned about the 10s of thousands of Kiwi and South Pacific Islander dole bludgers in Bondi and on the Gold Coast than a handful of clerics that the majority of the muslim population take no notice of.

  5. Joohardi,
    you ill-mannered netiquette-ignorant creep.

    A) you have not answered any question I asked of you, in good faith I might add, to educate any one who reads here about islam in Australia.

    B) Yet again you have tried to go off on a tangent on topics not on this thread.

    C) You have not taken up Sheik’s challenge and attempted any refutations.

    D) On this thread you make what I consider to be racist comments about Kiwis and Islanders. (On another thread you made disparaging remarks about Hispanic and African American “cannon fodder”.Earlier, wife-bashing, drinking trailer trash)

    You single out these people on a nationality/race basis yet you don’t like it when muslims are singled out on this, or a religious basis.
    You really are a racist in my opinion. You constantly single out others but don’t like it much when you are at the receiving end.

    Research: Have you got any links to prove your figures etc etc?
    You say muslim doctors, other professions etc. Are they muslims or are they Australian? You are sending mixed mesages here.

    I think we all know where you stand.
    Muslim first, then whatever suits!

  6. get your facts right pleeeeaze!!!! I wrote “white trash” not “trailer trash”.
    I am just giving you a taste of your own medicine. If people of your ilk are going to be branding all muslims as women hating, violence loving fanatics I have an obligation to inform you that the overwhelming majority of the 1.2 billion muslims in the world are peace loving people who respect women immensely. I remind you that Pakistan, Indonesia and Bangladesh all have had women Presidents. The CEO of the National Australia
    Bank is a muslim, it was an Islamic nation that shletered the Jews after their expulsion from Spain after the Inquistion, it was a Christian (Hitler) that tried to exterminate the Jews and so on and so on. You really need to open your mind . The world is not black and white like you see it.

  7. Sheik Yer’mami good comments. We are paying a high cost already for not speaking up louder earlier. The lesson is clear, we have to speak up now at every chance to stop Muslim immigration and to prevent Muslims getting access to WMD, whether in Islamic Republics or Kingdoms or Russia, China, US, UK and France.

  8. You still haven’t answered any of my questions. That is what my post was about. Nothing whatever to do with your responses.

  9. Dear Jihadi,
    Just a little note to correct your claims about “Kiwi dole bludgers on the Gold Coast”. As of February 26, 2001, the status of NZ citizens arriving in Australia was altered to prevent that very situation that you speak of. A new visa sub-class (Sub-class 444) was created so that NZ citizens could no longer receive permanent residency (and therefore welfare payments)as of right but had to go through a rigorous process of applying for permanent residency with much higher pool marks required of NZ citizens than of any other applicant (120 vs 70).
    As NZers have a lower unemployment rate than the rest of the population (including Muslims), the charge that NZers moving to Australia are nothing but welfare bums has very little substance. In fact, I’m pretty sure that NZers, who number approximately 500,000 in Australia constitute the single largest minority in terms of nationality. So why don’t we here more from them about Aussie attitudes of superiority towards Kiwis, including those revolting sheep jokes? Because NZers are too busy making a living, raising families and contributing to Australia to get caught up in feeling “offended” all the time. You could probably learn a thing or two, Jihadi. Oh, and how do I know this? Because I AM one of those NZers living here, paying taxes, paying a mortgage, raising my children but without the right to vote, to apply for certain jobs which require citizenship or to send my children to uni without paying foreign student fees. And without going through an expensive and drawn out, and by no means certain of success, process to obtain permanent residency, I have no choice of being anything other than a ‘NZ national in Australia’.
    Now, how about coming up with some stats to support your argument that Crazy John represents 90% of Muslims here in Australia? How about we start with Keyser Trad?

  10. Nobody have to answer than question than HATE MONGER ask in any media at all. Sheikyermami you are than well know Hate Monger wgo post your hate fill remark on in witch fellow hate monger applaud Hajj Deaths in Mecca, say Muslim have no civil right or human right at all.

  11. luzu ,,
    name one Kiwi who is CEO of a major Australian company. The CEO of the NAB is a muslim. Oh, and Emirates is contributing
    hundreds of millions of dollars to the Australian economy whereas Air New Zealand bled Ansett dry. Thanks a heap for that one.

  12. jihadi,

    Do you think that people don’t know that your mufti of Jerusalem worked with Hitler (who was not a Christian) to come up with the ‘final solution’ to the Jewish question?

    You underestimate the intelligence of Westerners.

  13. Wow!

    So now we have two Muhammedan social raisers & poster boyz who support the Islamization of Australia by the wealth and opportunities the host country provided?

  14. “So now we have two Muhammedan social raisers & poster boyz who support the Islamization of Australia by the wealth and opportunities the host country provided? ” Posted by Sheik (himself)

    Amazing how poster J. always comes up with the same things, usually muslim bank CEO’s: i.e. quoting successful muslims in Australia. Why does he highlight the fact they are muslims? Is that the reason for their success or are they simply just smarter than the average Joe?

    1. What did this have to do with the post by Luzu who eloquently added to the debate by stating Kiwis are not all dole bludgers – in self defence I might add.

    2. I am sure there are some pretty spectacular achievements by non-muslims in this country.

    e.g. Sir John Monash: Australia soldier who was recognised for his outstanding leadership in WW1, and developer of the Victoria State Electricity Commission, who had a university and a freeway named after him in honour of his achievements.
    Sir Isaac Isaacs: 9th Governor-General of Australia and the FIRST Australian citizen to be Gov. Gen. (Others were Brits.)

    Sir Edmund Hilary: A New Zealander who was the first to conquer Mount Everest on Coronation Day. (QE2). Now recently in Antarctica with PM Clarke to check out the base he established there.

    I could go on and on,,Dame Joan Sutherland, Sister Kenny – pioneer in polio treatment, what about Baz Lurhman even….oh heck this is like playing trivial pursuit by oneself!

    Aussies have done well not only here but internationally in all fields.

    Oooops!! The first 2 I mentioned were Jews. The second a Kiwi!

    Poster J always go off the thread. He attacks personally then comes up with what he thinks are huge (muslim) achievements when in fact the rest of the community is up to that level and often more so.

  15. Gramfan,,,
    you are slowly starting to get it. Every minority group has its achievers and losers. Even muslims. That is the whole point. Why brand all muslims as women hating violent people when this is simply not the case ? BTW are you claiming Edmund Hilary as a Kiwi Australian ? You’ve really upset Luzu now …..

  16. poster Jihadi:
    “Every minority group has its achievers and losers. ”

    Exactly! Actually I said this ages ago on another thread and you agreed with me so I am way ahead, not “slowly starting to get it”.

    “BTW are you claiming Edmund Hilary as a Kiwi Australian ? You’ve really upset Luzu now ….. ”

    No. I mentioned Hilary as a famous Kiwi. I stated he was a New Zealander at the start: something Luzu would no doubt be proud of. It needed to be said after you accused Kiwis of being dole bludgers etc etc.

  17. Gramfan,
    just a reminder from a previous post of yours:

    “I just want them (muslims) out of the west. I want them out of my country. They do nothing but cause problems. There is no compatibility with western civilzation and islam.”

    case closed … you loser ….

  18. If Muslims are that capable how is it that non muslims do not migrate to Muslim countries but Millions of Muslims migrate to non muslim lands? With the exception of immigrant workers in the middle east of course who will never settle in the middle east. Also how is it that Muslims are not able to develop their economies and many Muslim countries rank among the poorest and most illiterate in the world?

    It is my belief that in any community there are good, bad and the ugly. Do Muslim countries have statistics to prove that they have a significantly lower incidence of crime in their countries? Reading about the killings and lootings, I doubt there is any change.

  19. ““I just want them (muslims) out of the west. I want them out of my country. They do nothing but cause problems. There is no compatibility with western civilzation and islam.”

    case closed … you loser …. ”

    This is still true. Islam is not compatible with democracy. The first allegiance is to islam. See Sheik’s topic today. Democracy will never exist in islamic countries. At least not in its true form. Sure they may have elections as they did in Iraq, and sure Hamas won. But true equality for all citizens isn’t ever going to happen. And they don’t want it to happen either.

    Basically muslims want their host country to adapt to them: it should be the opposite.
    Why is it that muslims go to the west when they hate the west and want to establish sharia law? Global dominaton has been said out loud for many to hear.
    That is the goal.

    Hope you got a kick out of calling me a “loser”. Your aggression on this site is obvious for all to see. You are always on the attack.

    When I asked you some straight forward questions about islam here I got no reply: nothing,zip, nada!
    You could have been civil and helpful and answered, but you were not.
    You could have explained, in your own words, what islam in Australia is all about.

    In my opinion you lost that one.

  20. Dear Jihadi,

    I’m sure there are Kiwi CEOs in Australia. They just don’t make such a big deal about their origins. We integrate, you see? We don’t feel the need to bang on about how we are discriminated against, victims, blah, blah, blah. We just get on with it. And yet , there are very real ways in which NZers are singled out, particularly in immigration, for discriminatory treatment by law.

    By the way, you might like to look into the background of the Ansett deal a little more closely, in particular the vastly inflated price that was paid for the airline and the problems that posed for maintaining the airline as a viable company. I must say, from your post, you do seem to take the whole thing rather personally.

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