Arab Liberals on the “Terrorist Doctors” Plot
The recent failed terror attacks in London and Glasgow provoked a great deal of commentary among liberals in the Middle East and North African media, in particular due to the alleged involvement of a number of doctors in the plot. Some writers dwelt on the paradox of those trained to save lives becoming terrorists; others pointed to the suspects’ backgrounds in order to argue that poverty and ignorance are not the main cause of terrorism; and a number of writers addressed the issue of Muslim immigration in Europe and the U.S.
The following are excerpts:
* Make no mistake: Such views can only be aired in the relative safety in the the Dar-al Harb, the lands of the infidels. In Islamic countries people who are know to hold such views are usually assassinated, rather quickly:
Khudayr Taher, an Iraqi Shi’ite writer living in the U.S. and a regular contributor to the liberal Elaph website, had a quite illiberal suggestion – he asked why Europe and America shouldn’t deport their Muslim populations. He wrote:
“Countries have the right to defend themselves and assure their citizens’ safety from terrorism. Likewise, it is clear that the source of the terrorist crimes in Europe and America is the Muslims who live in these countries.
“The security services cannot know people’s intentions and sort out who is the noble immigrant and who is a terrorist criminal. [But] wherever there are Muslims, their presence has produced crimes of terrorism and murder.
“Among those Muslims in Europe and America who do not practice terrorism, most of them do not have loyalty and sincere attachment to these countries that have offered them all of the means of life in dignity – housing, studies, work, and citizenship…
“The legitimate question is this: Since the security services cannot sort out the good immigrant from the bad terrorist… why don’t these countries deport all Muslims, of all races, from Europe and America, and [thus] find rest from the danger of terrorism, and protect their peoples?
“I, as an Arab Muslim immigrant, sincerely call on the countries of Europe and America to deport all Muslims from their territories – including myself, despite my love and my sincere attachment to the U.S…”
Britain Under Siege
By Vasko Kohlmayer
FrontPageMagazine.com | July 11, 2007
Although last week’s terrorist attacks in Britain were shocking in their murderous intent, they were not at all unexpected. They are merely the latest in a long series of attempts – successful, foiled and failed – in what is in effect a war waged from within Britain’s Muslim community against the host country.
Even a cursory recounting of recent terrorist activity makes it immediately evident that Britain is a country under attack:
On June 30, two Muslim men drove an explosive-laden car into the main terminal building at Glasgow airport. Most of the explosives failed to detonate.
On June 29, two cars loaded with explosives were discovered and defused in London’s nightclub district. Had the detonation gone off according to the plan, hundreds would have been killed.
On June 15, seven men received lengthy jail sentences for being members of a sleeper cell that was planning an extensive terror campaign across the UK. Their targets included buildings, aircraft and water supplies. On learning of the verdict, Home Secretary John Reid warned: “The outcome of this trial once again shows the extent of the very real and serious threat the UK faces from terrorism.”
On April 30, five men received life sentences for planning to bomb a shopping centre, a nightclub and a gas network with a giant fertilizer bomb. Expert witnesses testified that the explosion could have killed hundreds of people. The sentencing judge told the terrorists – all Muslim and British citizens – that they had “betrayed their country.”
In March, one Abdul Muhid was found guilty of soliciting murder during last year’s cartoon demonstrations in London. He was filmed chanting “Bomb, bomb the UK,” while brandishing placards with inscriptions such “Annihilate those who insult Islam.”
On February 7, a Muslim cleric by the name Abu Hamza al-Masri was sentenced to seven years in jail after he had been found guilty of 11 charges of inciting murder and racial hatred. He would regularly incite his flock in London’s Finsbury Park mosque with statements such as: “You must know the cause of Allah and you must help that cause in fighting, by fighting and when you fight you kill, you don’t fight just to negotiate or to show off or to make videos or to make audios, fight to kill not fight to tape.” Al-Masri’s followers included Zacarias Moussaui, ‘shoebomber’ Richard Reid.
Early this year, nine men were arrested in connection with a plot to kidnap, torture and behead a Muslim member of the British armed forces. They planned to broadcast the Iraq style execution on the internet.
In November of last year, an Islamist convert by the name of Dhiren Barot was jailed for life for conspiring to carry out a series of attacks across the UK. One of his schemes involved the detonation of a dirty bomb; another flooding the London Underground with the River Thames. Boasted Barot, “Imagine the chaos that would be caused if a powerful explosion were to rip through London and actually rupture the river itself.” The prosecutor said that the terrorist was preparing to carry out massive explosions “the principal object being to kill hundreds, if not thousands of innocent people without warning.”
In August 2006, twelve people were arrested in connection with a plot to bomb ten transatlantic airliners in mid-flight with liquid explosives. According to the authorities, the preparations were in their final stages. Home Secretary John Reid said that if the scheme had succeeded, it would have caused death on an “unprecedented scale.”
In August 2005, Muslim cleric Omar Bakri was barred from the United Kingdom after it had been discovered that he headed the jihadist radical al-Muhajiroun group.
On July 21, 2005, four men attempted to carry out suicide bomb attacks on the London underground, but their devices failed to detonate.
On July 7, 2005, a series of bombings targeting the London transportation system left fifty-two dead and more than one 1000 injured.
Numerous as they are, these episodes only represent the tip of the iceberg. Last year, the MI5 – Britain’s domestic spy agency – revealed that it was monitoring up to 30 high-priority terrorist plots involving some 200 groups and 1600 suspects.
The Master & his Slave
Intimately familiar with the extent of the threat, London Police commissioner Sir Ian Blair warned almost exactly a year ago that another successful terrorist attack was virtually inevitable. Last week’s events in London and Glasgow saw the fulfillment of his gloomy prediction. It was only a matter of good fortune that the attacks did not translate into massive casualties. This, however, is no great consolation, for more plots are being hatched and planned even as we speak. It is almost certain that Britain will be hit again. The chances are that the next time we will not be so lucky.
Khudayr Taher. I can tell I like this guy!
Now all we need is people to listen to him.
Gramfan – Khudayr Taher. I can tell I like this guy!
Me too. Makes much more sense than the current song & dance routine about banning or not banning Hizb ut-Tahrir, having “advice” or not having “advice”,
“winning Muslim hearts and minds”, “Muslim Consultative Councils” and similar wankfests.
Taher has a good idea but it will never fly. Deport them all today and tomorrow the jihadists will sneak right back in (or worse, they’ll all be invited back by real idiots during an administration change). Besides, one can just imagine the outcry from the do-gooders. No, we’ll have to suffer their presence and while most probably have no interest in jihad there will be enough of that ilk around to make all our lives miserable. Ending immigration from the ummah and exiling jihadist scum probably would work better but even these options aren’t being considered because they’re “too harsh”.
I was just wondering,,could it be that Glasgow was some kind of signal to ramp up?
The Red Mosque, Bin Laden’s #2 thretening all over the place.
It’s possible.
(I won’t list everything else cos you guys know already.)
ISLAMSFORLOSERS
Maybe in our lifetime we will see this come to pass.
Mullah
This “hearts and minds” thing cannot work with people like this. I agree.
Leuning wanting to give OBL a Christmas present. Yikes! Puke!
There’s a tipping point coming, you just sense it. The disgraceful part of this it will involve many body bags in a European or American city before a final move is made on Islam (if then).
Khudayr Taher is a logical guy. If only our guvmints could be so logical.
Yalla ya Nasrallah..
Enjoy!!
hey allahfanculo – thank you for that clip, I enjoyed it.
Below is a quote from Winston Churchill. The man was so right!
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live… The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities … but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa…and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.â€
(Sir Winston Churchill, The River War, Vol. II, pp. 248-50, London: Longman, Green & Co., 1899)