You heard it, he said it: “Say we don’t want Muslim immigrants”
By Kevin Meyers/The Independent.ie
The question is especially apposite, because we now know the consequences for every single European society which has admitted large numbers of Muslims: social alienation, religious antagonism and outright terrorism.
We know this. We all know it. And yet we continue to allow Muslim immigration. Why? What do we gain from it?
Well, up until two weeks ago you might have said, more doctors – for when Mary Harney declared that she was going to solve the impasse in the health service by bringing in medical graduates from around the world, we all accepted that doctors, no matter their religion, were dedicated to saving life.
That was then. We know otherwise now. Clearly the Hippocratic Oath doesn’t have the universal power we once thought. Even Mengele, for all his evil, could maintain the fiction that his abominable experiments were of some medical use. But no one could possibly say that of the medical mass-murder plots in Britain, where the term WMD has taken on a new and grisly resonance for some Muslim doctors. Which ones? We don’t know. Okay: so why take the risk?
Now, whenever I write about immigration, the response is a bristling silence, as the binary-weight of physical fear and PC-conformism successfully suppresses debate on Ireland’s future. Occasionally, one hears a little bleat, “You’re not being helpful” – ah yes, the lily-livered whinge of unprincipled liberalism.
Thus, the Dail has never debated the effects of Christian, European population-movement into Ireland, never mind the consequences of Islamic immigration. This is frivolousness to the point of delinquency, the hallmark of a society which has neither faith in its own values, nor a determination for them to endure. And a society which does not defend its core-certainties is sooner or later doomed. Much of Europe is so afflicted, and Britain is in an advanced stage of the disease.
Islamic norms are now tolerated, and informally enforced, across many British cities, where women routinely wear full face-veils. Of Britain’s two million Muslims, over 300,000 believe suicide attacks in the West are justified, and 500,000 believe the 7/7 attacks in London two years ago were the work of British intelligence.
Some 600,000 do not even regard themselves as British, 37pc want sharia law in Britain, and one-quarter want to live in all-Muslim areas. Meanwhile, MI5 is close to being overwhelmed by the sheer scale of the domestic terrorist insurgency: 100 Islamicist suspects are already awaiting trial, and there are some 200 terrorist networks, with 1,700 members, now operating around the country.
Read it all, you really should!
What Islam teaches:
According to Muslim scholar Bassam Tibi,
“Muslims are religiously obliged to disseminate the Islamic faith throughout the world…. If non-Muslims submit to conversion or subjugation, this call can be pursued peacefully. If they do not, Muslims are obliged to wage war against them. … Those who resist Islam cause wars and are responsible for them”
So after all the infidels are the one who don’t want world peace according to Islamic scholars.
World peace in accordance to Islamic teachings can be achieved only when all the people in the world submit themselves to Islam.
DO THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO TURN YOUR COMMUNITY AND EVERY SINGLE COMMUNITY IN AMERICA INTO A THIRD WORLD HELLHOLE LIKE DETROIT?
WAKE UP, AMERICA, BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.
I think much larger terror attacks will be necessary before banning Muslim immigration can be openly spoke about in the US. Political correctness and multiculturalism are powerful and won’t go down without a fight.
Standing ovation!
“Say we don’t want Muslim immigrantsâ€
Oz cities are already starting to resemble Quagmiristan, with veils & burkhas and halal outlets; cabbies that refuse guide dogs & alcohol; jihadi mosques & madrassas posing as colleges.
“Say we don’t want Muslim immigrantsâ€
Just to reinforce the message – no Muslim immigration, full-stop. No handwaving about “assimilation”, thanks, Mister Howard; no cat meat sheiks, Mister Keating ( and your ilk); no “Muslim Reference Groups”; “Centres Of Islamic Studies”, Saudi-funded mosques & madrassas etc.
Trying to assimilate Islam with the West is like trying to mix iron with clay.
“No to the Iron Burkha!”
Any candidate willing to campaign on the issue of banning Muslim immigration will get my attention, and very likely my vote.
In the US, the Gov/market forces want large scale Mexican immigration to create workers (basically slaves), to take the jobs Americans wont do. Actually that concept is word magick, and not true. Legals and illegals alike are taking lots of jobs Americans would do. Muslims on the otherhand, take no jobs at all, and go on the dole, or if they work at all, they ‘do’ take jobs Americans would do.
While I am not in favor of creating a slave class of cheap workers, at least most of the Mexicans ‘will’ work, and then contribute their labor for something mostly positive. What do muslims contribute? In my estimation, 5% positive, 95% negative. If you only take out 95% of the garbage each day, what happens.? Soon your house is overflowing with garbage. The best thing to do is, dont bring the garbage into your house to begin with. Stop muslim immigration now. There is nothing positive to come of it…
The anti-Islamic KKK is well represented in the above post. Hard to believe that America still has so many bloodthirsty warmonger Christian fundamentalists who cannot stand the thought of living in a world inhabited by people whose beliefs and customs differ from their own.
If we must expel the Muslims, we must also expel the Christian fundamentalists too.
Muslim beliefs and customs include killing my children. I do not want them anywhere near my neighborhood.
Moral equivilence between muslim butchers and Christians is intellectually dishonest blame shifting.
>>”Clearly the Hippocratic Oath doesn’t have the universal power we once thought.”
Debbie Schlussel has a list of the numerous ingrate jihadist docs that have been recipients of our hospitality:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/07/i_told_you_so_t.html
>>”Sometimes, sometimes, but not always. In Britain, 16pc of Christians are economically inactive; the figure for Muslims is twice that, 31pc. Unemployment for Muslim women stands at 18pc, compared to 4pc for Jewish and Christian women.
I’m guessing they are on govt. subsidies, which they feel they are entitled to as jizya tax.
MODERATIONIST>>”Moral equivilence between muslim butchers and Christians is intellectually dishonest blame shifting.”
True. The fundamentals of Christianity are love and forgiveness. There is no precedent for violence.
Sheikh,
I find it hard to believe that this article is from a MSM paper. The Independent no less of Ireland. I’m still rubbing my eyes. Will go have a drink, lie down, massage my forehead.
Now even an MSM paper is asking “why are we importing Muslims? No more Muslims – we dont want them, even if they are doctors. That is the message from The Independent of Ireland.
No reason now why this shouldnt be stated at every opportunity. The cat is out of the bag. If an MSM paper can state it openly, then it must be stated abroad by everyone who cares for a decent society that can be left to successive generations. We, or our idiot politicians have no right, NO RIGHT WHATEVER, to trash the glorious heritage they were supposed to protect. Instead of that, they trashed and betrayed it, handing over the mess to our children and grandchildren. This needs to be stated at every opportunity. Every opportunity that arises should be made use of to state this fact.
The Left/Liberal silence on the subject cannot maintained any more.
Not only has this madness got to be stopped, but the immigration of Muslims has to be reversed. There is no hope for Britain otherwise. None at all. And ff Britain goes into the night, so will the rest of the Anglo-sphere.
Great find BTW.
Joel: my brother and I were trying to remember our long ago Christian indoctrination. We went to a church that could be considered fundamentalist, and neither of us remember one word of hatred, violence, blame, all we remember was a steady diet of bible stories and moralism. A far cry from the islamic hatred and murder being pushed onto 5 year olds.
John Grey – too true.
The fundaments of Christianity are love and forgiveness. There is ofcourse more to it then just that. It does not mean that Christians should stand by and let evil triumph.
Without Christianity there would be no Western civilisation. It is the basis of 95% of what we now term as our cultural heritage, whether music, art, literature, and science and technology. Expelling the Christian faith would be cutting the roots of our culture.
Islam OTH is a destroyer of civilisations. It destroyed the Buddhist civilisation of Afghanistan -look what that country is now and has been since Muslims took it over. Persia that other great civilisation with a native religion, Zorostrianism, is now no more. The Parsis (originally Zoroastrians) I know, peaceful people to core, hate Islam.
I am travelling in Queensland showing the films Obsession and Islam- what the west needs to know. Those that attend these film nights are shocked and are always grateful (except in two instances, those were men of the Christian faith who refused to believe it.). I send them away with hand outs and DVD’s and a petition that they and their friends can sign.
I was sick of just reading blogs about the threat of Islam and decided this was the best way for me to get the word out.
Below is the web site for the petitions.
I encourage you all to download it, fill it in and send it off.
http://www.cdp.org.au/fed/petition/REVIEW%20COMMONWEALTH%20IMMIGRATIONPOLICY%20H%20REP.doc
Just wanted to clear up what I meant: My statements were in response to the poster comparing Christian fundamentalism to Islamic fundamentalism. He’s got jihadists wanting to chop off his head and he’s worried about Christian missionaries.
DP111>>”I find it hard to believe that this article is from a MSM paper. “
I’m seeing this more and more. It is the fruits of the labor of persons such as the Sheik.
MODERATIONIST>>”We went to a church that could be considered fundamentalist, and neither of us remember one word of hatred, violence, blame, all we remember was a steady diet of bible stories and moralism.”
I can vouch for that: I come from the most violent family, of the most violent barrio( Spanish for ghetto), in one of the most violent cities in America; Jesus’ teachings are changing my family members one by one. I’m a pacifist, to God’s glory, but I know what savages are and I know how they think. Unfortunately, they only understand strength. Compassion is weakness to them. God help us.
Grow up David M. You dont have much knowledge, a reactionary liberal probably. You can alway rent a cheap hovel in downtown Islamabad, or Aman Jordan, and savor the local flavor up close.
Joe Grey,
All the years I have been to church, never have I heard anything from the vicar except love, forgiveness and compassion. Once a month at the least, there would be special collections for the poor in third world countries, or for that matter at home.
People who cannot recognise the difference between a faith that gave us all the liberal democratic traditions we now have, charities, ambulance brigades, the Enlightenment, separation of church and state, abolition of slavery, to name a few, with Islam, that has within it forcible conversion at the point of the sword, death for apostasy, beheadings of the Infidels, and regards Taqqiya ie lying, as devinely sanctioned, to name a few, has lost a sense of proportion, as well as reason.
Cheers and goodnight all.
Sheikh – thanks for bringing the above article to front.
Joe Grey posted: Moral equivilence between muslim butchers and Christians is intellectually dishonest blame shifting.â€
It can only be done by making a mountain of some transgressions by individual Christians into a mountain (quite against the teachings and example of Jesus Christ), while making a mole hill of Jihad, and the fact that slaughter of the Infidel is not just sanctioned in Islam, but is actually a commandment.
David Mathews said “The anti-Islamic KKK is well represented in the above post.”
The sort of thing that supporters of Islamic immigration in Sweden are saying,
as Muslims take over in Malmo and show their contempt for Swedes.
We don’t want to see “the death of Sweden” repeated in the rest of the west.
The Death of Sweden
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2278
DP11>>”People who cannot recognise the difference between a faith that gave us all the liberal democratic traditions we now have, charities, ambulance brigades, the Enlightenment, separation of church and state, abolition of slavery, to name a few, with Islam, that has within it forcible conversion at the point of the sword, death for apostasy, beheadings of the Infidels, and regards Taqqiya ie lying, as devinely sanctioned, to name a few, has lost a sense of proportion, as well as reason.”
Well put, DP111. Unfortunately, some people do recognize what Christianity and Western culture are about, but to acknowledge such is viewed as
the slippery slope towards changing their entire way of life. And they resist this emotionally. Sad.
DP111 “Sheikh – thanks for bringing the above article to front.”
Ditto
DP111 “Cheers and good night to all.”
Good night. May God bless you and your loved ones.
David Matthews, you really ought to aquaint yourself with the teachings of islam. My dog has a higher IQ than you (he’s a border collie, so don’t feel too insulted)
“Khilafah Conference International 2007”
Islamic immigration is a Trojan Horse packaged by our leaders on the Left and Right as “celebrating diversity” and other cute cliches’ The reality is that Islamic immigrants are committed to rejecting “diversity” in favour of a global Caliphate under Sharia Law, which, in their delusion, they believe to be “god’s will”. Sounds like sedition to me.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article2199245.ece
From The Sunday Times
August 5, 2007
Schools are run by Islamic group Blair pledged to ban
The Islamic Shaksiyah Foundation, a registered charity that runs private schools in Haringey, north London, and in Slough in Berkshire, was established two years ago by female members of the extremist group Hizb ut-Tahrir.
[…]
The schools’ curriculum contains elements of Hizb ut-Tahrir’s ideology, which calls for the union of all Muslim states into a worldwide empire, the khilafah (caliphate).
[…]
According to the Islamic Shaksiyah Foundation’s curriculum document, children aged 7-8 are taught “our rules and laws come from Allah†and asked to contrast Islam with “other belief systems where human beings make rulesâ€. At age 9-10 children should be taught: “There must be one khali-fah [ruler of the caliphate].â€
[…]
At some point, the hate-America, blame-America demagogues are going to have to realize that America is not the problem, Israel is not the problem, oil is not the problem, ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM.
MODERATIONIST>>” At some point, the hate-America, blame-America demagogues are going to have to realize that America is not the problem, Israel is not the problem, oil is not the problem, ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM.”
It’s the “who do you want me to release among you, Jesus or the murderer?” all over again. If and when the terrorists strike they are going to hit the inner city areas in which liberals are the vast majority.
“Khilafah Conference International 2007”
Any Oz pollies with the ticker to ban Hizb ut-Tahrir? I doubt it.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3433932,00.html
‘Establish Islamic state’
Radical UK Islamist group holds London conference. ‘Why is Palestine still occupied?’ asks speaker
Yaakov Lappin
Published: 08.05.07, 16:26 / Israel News
The British branch of a world-wide radical Islamist group, Hizb ut-Tahrir, held a conference London on Saturday, in which speakers called for the overthrow of Muslim governments and their replacement with a single Islamic state, known as the caliphate. According to Hizb ut-Tahrir’s website, “thousands” of people attended the conference. […]
At its conference in north London on Saturday, the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir in Britain, Jalaluddin Patel, said that the call for the establishment of a global Islamic state “holds currency on the streets of Cairo, on the streets of Karachi… and on the streets of Tripoli. And indeed in almost every city in the Muslim world.”
“Brothers and sisters, ladies and gentlemen, plans are being made east and west… for this Muslim world,” Patel declared. […]
Hizb ut-Tahrir & all the other architects of the global Caliphate can hatch & plot, but ultimately in vain. God, not “Allah” will gather them against Israel, and destroy them in accordance with Ezekiel 38. Hamongog awaits them.
Mullah>>”God, not “Allah†will gather them against Israel, and destroy them in accordance with Ezekiel 38. Hamongog awaits them.
AMEN! If only they would turn and be saved.
Joe said: AMEN! If only they would turn and be saved.
They roll on with their intention to end Israel & to kill the Jews, but they can only do it in accordance with limits God has set – “Jacob’s Trouble”. And still the West responds by doing – nothing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/06/world/europe/06hizb.html?ref=world
London Gathering Defends Vision of Radical Islam
The party, Hizb ut-Tahrir, calls for the return of the caliphate in Muslim countries, the end of Israel and the withdrawal of all Western interests in the Middle East.
Mullah>>”They roll on with their intention to end Israel & to kill the Jews,
You’d think that with the good ol’ fashion project whuppin’ Israel has put on them the last few go ’rounds they’d learn. Silly, impish souls.
Mullah>>”the end of Israel and the withdrawal of all Western interests in the Middle East.
And just what might they do about jobs?