*Â Iftikar may not have all the answers, but he makes demands that make your hair grow and your skin crawl. Ah yes, and he knows all about the global village too:
Iftikhar Ahmad Says:
July 19th, 2008 at 3:39 pm e
Salaam
Pope was not greeted by Australian Aboriginals, because Church and Australian Establishment were responsibelo for much of the abuse experienced by them. They were being deprived of their culture,faith and languages. They were being forced to convert.
Muslim community of Australia must learn lesson form Aboriginals, otherwise, their future generations would be lost in the jungle of Australia. They must demand state funded Muslim schools with their bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. There is no place for a non-Muslim teacher or a child in a Muslim school.
* We take it that there is no place for Muslims in Australian schools then, agreed Iftikhar?
Bilingual muslim children need to learn standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. They need to learn Arabic to recite and understand the Holy Quran. They need to learn Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry.
A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become monolingual Australian.
* You are welcome to comment. Take a deep breath and exhale. No abuse, please!
Ahmed>>”They were being deprived of their culture,faith and languages. They were being forced to convert.
Ahmed, my Aztec ancestors were deprived their cultural practice of slaughtering up to 70,000 of their fellow Indian neighbors for the dedication of **one** temple. The Spaniards did what they did in spite of what’s in the Bible, but the Aztecs were force fed a dish they’d served on many an occasion. In the end, Mexico is more civilized with pacifist Christianity as it’s major religion instead of the worship of Huitzilopochli, the false god who demanded blood, war, and human sacrifice. That’s awful isn’t it–a god that would require one to kill and fight?
To paraphrase the fellow, does that mean there is no place for a Mohammedan in monolingual Australian?
I think the reactions and statements from the Mohammedan speak for themselves.
Senor Doeboy>>”To paraphrase the fellow, does that mean there is no place for a Mohammedan in monolingual Australian? I think the reactions and statements from the Mohammedan speak for themselves.
Joe Grey>> Yep
Demands, demands. That’s all we ever hear from this bunch. Here’s a demand TO them-shut up and exercise the right of return (to the ummah).
Ahmed>>” He/she does not want to become monolingual Australian.
“he/she”? Don’t try that one in Iran.
They chose to go to Australia or were they so ignorant that they had no idea what it was like. The Loony Imam who called girls on the beach *uncovered meat* has already said that Australia is islamic (idiotic, convoluted reasoning) I wonder what the aborigines make of it considering they have been there for something like 40 000 years!
Typical demands, get the host state to pay for all your wants. How about they make the effort to fit in.
Silly me, why expect them to act with any reason or sense. Perhaps they should go home to whatever islamic paradise they came from – I’m sure they would be much happier.
Tell them to FIFU.
“There is no place for a non-Muslim teacher or a child in a Muslim school.”
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Actually, if you care about your country, and your children, and their future, the quotation should be “There is no place for a Muslim school”.
The only reason that Islam still exists is they brainwash their innocent children into accepting their psychopathic religion. Islam turns people into zombies who delight in the power of destruction. The rest of the world delights in the power of creation. That’s a significant difference.
“He/she does not want to become monolingual Australian.” says this Iftikhar Ahmed
I’m glad that’s all cleared up.
Is he a permanent citizen? If not, I suggest this letter is forwarded to immigration for clarification/review of immigration status . . .and strongly suggest immediate deportation to spare this individual any further exposure to monolingual Australia.
Dont worry, Itchy Ahmads details, along with relevent posts are being forwarded to relevent authorities. But I do agree with Sir Henry. Itchy is a little stupid and I find his posts rather amusing and certainly worth a little chuckle. Dont take the fool seriously – but if you do he goes well with a gin and tonic.
Looks like good ol’ Iftikar is sending his standard letters around to all the blogs that touch on education problems with Muslims. He’s almost perfected it, here is the latest version:
e demand for Muslim schools comes from parents who want their children a safe environment with an Islamic ethos. Parents see Muslim schools where children can develop their Islamic Identity where they won’t feel stigmatised for being Muslims and they can feel confident about their faith.
Muslim schools are working to try to create a bridge between communities. There is a belief among ethnic minority parens that the British schooling does not adequatly address their cultural needs. Failing to meet this need could result in feeling resentment among a group who already feel excluded. Setting up Muslim school is a defensive response. (read: give us what we want or we blow shit up -ed.)
State schools with monolingual teachers are not capable to teach English to bilingual Muslim children. Bilingual teachers are needed to teach English to such children along with their mother tongue. According to a number of of studies, a child will not learn a second language if his first language is ignored.
Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Muslims have the right to educate their children in an environment that suits their culture. This notion of “integration”, actually means “assimilation”, by which people generally really mean “be more like me”. That is not multiculturalism. (ie accommodate us, even though we’re not from here -ed.) In Sydney, Muslims were refused to build a Muslim school, because of a protest by the residents. Yet a year later, permission was given for the building of a Catholic school and no protests from the residents. This clearly shows the blatant hypocrisy, double standards and racism. Christians oppose Muslim schools in western countries yet build their own religious schools. (fine, you go first, when a church or synagogue is built in Saudi Arabia -ed.)
British schooling and the British society is the home of institutional racism. The result is that Muslim children are unable to develop self-confidence and self-esteem, therefore, majority of them leave schools with low grades. Racism is deeply rooted in British society. Every native child is born with a gene or virus of racism, therefore, no law could change the attitudes of racism towards those who are different. It is not only the common man, even member of the royal family is involved in racism.
There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools with bilingual Muslim teachers. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.
Iftikhar Ahmad
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
This is the difference between Australia and Britain. To question, what can only be a call for ethnic cleansing by Mr Ahmad would be regarded as racist in Britain.
Nice to know the whole world isn’t mad.
Here’s an update on the indefatigable Iftikhar:
Iftikhar | June 18, 2010 4:20 AM | Reply
It is not Islam and Muslims who are creating problems, actually it is
British society creating problems for the Muslim community.
The Muslim community has been vicitm of Paki-bashing in all
walks of life by the British society and Establishment for the last 60
years. Now it is vicitm of terrorism by the British Establishment. Thousands
of Muslim youth are being serched in the streets and hundreds of them are
behind the bar without any trial.
State schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers are not suitable for
Muslim children. This is the reason why majority of them leave schools with
low grades. According to OFSTEd, almost half of schools in England are not giving pupils a good education and there us an urgent need for reform. I believe that majority of such schools are those, where Muslim children are in majority.
God has created diverse human beings to live in this tiny global village as
of one family. Creation by its very nature is deverse with different
species, different communities, different cultures and languages. These
differences represent the beauty and wonder but diversity is sometimes not
fully appreciated, resulting in all sorts of clashes. The British society
and Establishment must learn to respect and accommodate others, as if in a
family.
I set up the first Muslim school in London in1981. Now there are 140 schools
and only 11 are state funded. Sikh community has set up its own schools and
now Hindu community has set up a state funded Hindu school in Harrow and
next year it is going to set up a state funded Hindu school in Leicester.
Greek Orthodox community has set up its own state funded school in Croydon.
Now Black community is also thinking to set up its own schools with Black
teachers as role models. One of the main reason of setting up schools by
different communities is that the British education is the home of
institutional racism and British teachers are chicken racists.
A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to
become notoriously monolingual Brit. He/she is supposed to be well versed in
standard English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages, to be part of
the Britisah society, as well as proud of his/her cultural roots and enjoy
the beauty of his/her literature and poetry.
Iftikhar Ahmad
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.u
Iftikhar | June 18, 2010 4:21 AM | Reply
Salaam
It is not Islam and Muslims who are creating problems, actually it is
British society creating problems for the Muslim community.
The Muslim community has been vicitm of Paki-bashing in all
walks of life by the British society and Establishment for the last 60
years. Now it is vicitm of terrorism by the British Establishment. Thousands
of Muslim youth are being serched in the streets and hundreds of them are
behind the bar without any trial.
State schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers are not suitable for
Muslim children. This is the reason why majority of them leave schools with
low grades. According to OFSTEd, almost half of schools in England are not giving pupils a good education and there us an urgent need for reform. I believe that majority of such schools are those, where Muslim children are in majority.
God has created diverse human beings to live in this tiny global village as
of one family. Creation by its very nature is deverse with different
species, different communities, different cultures and languages. These
differences represent the beauty and wonder but diversity is sometimes not
fully appreciated, resulting in all sorts of clashes. The British society
and Establishment must learn to respect and accommodate others, as if in a
family.
I set up the first Muslim school in London in1981. Now there are 140 schools
and only 11 are state funded. Sikh community has set up its own schools and
now Hindu community has set up a state funded Hindu school in Harrow and
next year it is going to set up a state funded Hindu school in Leicester.
Greek Orthodox community has set up its own state funded school in Croydon.
Now Black community is also thinking to set up its own schools with Black
teachers as role models. One of the main reason of setting up schools by
different communities is that the British education is the home of
institutional racism and British teachers are chicken racists.
A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to
become notoriously monolingual Brit. He/she is supposed to be well versed in
standard English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages, to be part of
the Britisah society, as well as proud of his/her cultural roots and enjoy
the beauty of his/her literature and poetry.
Kind regards
Iftikhar
* The British society and Establishment must learn to respect and accommodate others, as if in a family.
How about Morocco, Pakistan, Swordi Land, Iran, Aghanistan, Libya, Malaysia, Indonesia, Maldives slowly sinking …?
We could spend a thousand years and completely break the world economy trying to civilize and modernize these inbred primates and it would not have any effect on them. We’ve gotta move on. Take their oil and other resources when we need them, grind them to dust when we have to and leave them lying in the sand …
More from the indefatigable Iftikhar Ahmed:
Migration and the Changing Face of Education
Globalisation means that we now all live, work or communicate with people who are different. In this global village, religious faith plays a central role in the way that people understand or from their culture and identity. Human being is a product of his culture, language and faith. There is a positive co-relation between language and culture. Parents have the right to raise their children in faith based schools. Those who object to this right display their contempt for parental rights and sadly intolerance for the religious convictions of others. It is not only Muslims but other communities have been trying to set up their own schools for their children. I set up the first Muslim school in 1981 and now there are 166 Muslim schools and only 11 schools are state funded. There are four Sikh state funded schools. Hindu state funded school was set up in Harrow last year and next year a Hindu state funded school would emerge in Leicester. Even Black community is thinking of setting up its own schools for black children with black teachers.
A study by Bristol University reveals that a high level of racial segregation in Oldham schools and tension between communities resulted in recent riots in 2001. A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children outnumbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. The native parents do not want their children to be educated along with migrant children. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM. The solution is that those schools where Muslim children are in majority may be opted out as Muslim Academies. State schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers are not in a position to satisfy the social, emotional needs and demands of the bilingual Muslim children. Majority of them leave schools with low grades. They find themselves cut off from their cultural, linguistic and spiritual identities. Muslim children in state schools feel isolated and confused about who they are. This can cause dissatisfaction and lead them into criminality.
Immigration is an unstoppable face of modern society, and immigrants will need help integrating, but the host society needs to show zero tolerance to non-EU and EU citizens who clearly don’t like being here. The second generation of Muslim migrants is facing a huge challenge because they did not think even for a second before that someone would say, ‘You are not welcome. Native Brits feel that their culture and language is superior and every Tom and Harry must learn English and forget their own languages, cultures, literatures and poetry. It is the native Brits who need to learn and respect those who are different. Immigrants are also human beings with social, emotional and spiritual needs and demands. They are not just economics for the economic prosperity.
British children in Spain come with this mentality, wanting to keep themselves to themselves and feel no obligation to integrate into Spanish way of life. The Brits are the most problematic minority group in Spanish schools. They are worst at learning the host language and integrating into school life than any other nationality in Spain’s state schools. They have negative attitudes towards integration. They carry a strong sense of English linguistic superiority. They were embarrassed to speak Spanish because the other students laughed at them. Brit children had very little or no concept of Spanish culture or social life. They watched UK TVs and English language radios. Their parents do not speak Spanish nor have Spanish friends. In English ghettos, Spaniards fear to tread. They have no interest in being part of Spanish society.
Iftikhar Ahmad
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
20 October 2010 10:40
The great ex-Muslim Ali Sina at his brilliant best, adressing the vapid nonsense of yet another Muslim propagandist>>>
Ali Sina:
Dear Mr. Iftikhar Ahmad,
I am afraid you are completely out of touch with reality. First of all Islam is not the world’s fastest growing religion. Yes Muslims do procreate faster but this is the nature of all poor and uneducated people. Secondly there are more Muslims leaving Islam than any other religion losing their followers. Please wake up and smell the coffee.
Now the real reason for Islamophobia is because many Muslims are active terrorists. They kill people. Aren’t you watching the news?
Then we have people like you who brazenly deny the real cause of Islamophobia and accuse the terrorized people of paranoia and misunderstanding, hence adding more insults to the injury and give more reasons for people to fear Islam and consider it the religion of a people incapable of rational thought.
Islam does not pose any threat for being, as you put it, “the fastest growing religionâ€. It is not the fastest growing religion! And even if it were no one would give a damn, just as no one gives a damn about the growth of Falun Gong, which by having over 100 million fresh converts in just 10 years is actually the world’s fastest growing religion. The fear of Islam does not come from its alleged and bogus fast rate of growth but from your terrorist brethren, your holy book of terror and your barefaced denials.
You accuse Westerners of being prejudiced against Islam and being rancorous over the defeat of the crusaders. It is this absurd and mindless thinking that is frightening. What prejudice are you talking about when Muslims can run for political office in “Christian†countries and they enjoy all the benefits that other citizens have? Compare that to the plight of Christians and other minorities in Islamic countries. What rights do they have? …None!
You talk about the loss of crusaders? Sir, the “Christians†have won! They won a long time ago. The very fact that you have left your poor and Islam-devastated country and have come to their doors to seek a better life is proof enough that they have won. What have the Muslims won? Are they technologically more advanced? Are they better educated? Are they more democratic? Is the index of crime lower in Islamic countries? Are they happier? What can you show forth as the proof that you have won? “Historic rivalry of Christianity against Islamâ€?… Methinks your mind has been left behind in the Middle Ages. Sir, people are afraid of Islam because your fellow coreligionists are killing them, not because of what happened centuries ago. Most of them do not even know what happened in crusades. Some of them are so deluded that even have issued apologies for the crusades. You are talking nonsense. … “Crusades†eh?… “Historic rivalry of Christianity against Islamâ€? You are so depressingly funny!
Mr. Iftikhar Ahmad, for your information, people in the West do not care anymore about Christianity, crusades and what happened 900 or even 400 years ago. Unlike Muslims who are stuck in the past, they are living in the 21st century and they have their own concerns. It is not just the Europeans who are becoming “Islamophobic”. The Koreans, the Japanese and nations that had nothing to do with crusades are also starting to fear Islam and the Muslims. There are many who were born into Islam and now are afraid of Islam. We are all afraid of Islam because Islam is a religion of terror. This is not phobia. The fear is very real and justifiable. Muhammad promised to “instill terror in the hearts of the unbelieversâ€. (Quran 8:12) Your prophet has succeeded. Now the world fears Islam. Your unwillingness to accept responsibility and the fact that you blame the victims of paranoia makes Islam look even more hideous. Your refusal to see the truth is a living testament that Islam is an insanity that, if not contained, will blow up the world.
You accuse Jewish and Christian scholars of misrepresenting Islam. I am neither Jewish nor Christian. Yet I declare that they are not misrepresenting Islam. I read the Quran, the Hadith and enough of the history of Islam to know Islam is not a religion but a dangerous cult, created by a controlling and sadistic cult leader.
You claim: “forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.†And you call those who say such thing liars. Tell me which version of history you read? Is Tabari good enough? How did Islam came to Iran , Egypt , Spain or India ? Millions died defending their countries against marauding Muslims – 80 million were massacred in India alone. Those wretched souls were your own ancestors. This was the biggest holocaust. Now you are siding with the murderers of your ancestors and say it is just a “fantastically absurd myth� Are you trying to rewrite history? Where do you think these “pure†Islamists got their inspiration to bomb, behead and murder innocent people? Isn’t it all in the examples set by Muhammad and his explicit instructions in the Quran?
Ironically, you are calling upon non-Muslims not to be prejudiced against Muslims but at the same time you threaten that the “Hardening prejudice against Islam is creating a dis-affected underclass of young Muslim ‘time-bombs’ likely to explode into violenceâ€. With that kind of statement do you really expect people to believe Islam is a religion of peace? So basically what you say is that people must agree that Islam is a religion of peace otherwise there will be violence! What is deplorable in all this is that you think your readers are stupid.
You expressed your concern for Muslims losing their foothold in Britain and accuse your hosts of ignorance and intolerance. Don’t you think that those disaffected and violent young Muslims that according to you are time bombs ready to explode have anything to do with it? How about rounding up those “dis-affected underclass of young Muslims” and sending them back home before they explode into violence?
You are demanding westerners use the phrase “Judeo-Christian-Islamic†when they refer to their civilization. Shouldn’t you first go back to your own country of birth and demand that the Jews and Christians be recognized as humans before making such an outlandish demand? You have come to the West and despise everything the western civilization stands for. All you dream of is to destroy it and establish your Islamic intolerant way of life. And now you have the temerity to demand that Islam be recognized as a contributor to this civilization? What has been the contribution of Islam to western civilization?
You claim that “Islamic values are not only compatible with the western values they are almost identical.†Do the Westerners practice polygamy, wife-beating, stoning, hand-chopping, flogging, beheading, clitoridectomy or honor-killing? What is it that you find identical between western civilization and Islamic barbarity? Is democracy an Islamic value adopted by the Westerners? Is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights an Islamic concept?
You say “Western culture is in fact based on Muslim cultureâ€. Sir, Islam does not have a culture. What you mistake as Islamic culture is the culture of the civilized countries that Islam subdued. That culture is destroyed now. Is there any reference to Algebra, Chemistry, Astronomy, architecture, Medicine or philosophy in the Quran? Does Islam encourage poetry, sculpture, painting, dance or music? These are the foundations of any culture and Islam has nothing to do with them. Many of the exponents of these sciences and arts in Islamic countries were apostates. Terrorism however, is very Islamic. The Quran is full of verses that advocate murder, decapitation, genocide and terror. So you can say “Islamic terrorism” but you can’t say “Islamic culture”.
Finally you said one thing that I wholeheartedly agree with and that is “read the Quranâ€. I did, and I left Islam after that. I urge everyone to read that book, as you said, with an open mind. No one can write a book more damaging to Islam than the Quran. All we need to discredit Islam is to quote the Quran and the Hadith.
In the interests of humanity, I urge both Muslims and non-Muslims to read the Quran so that they can discover for themselves the stupidity of this book and feel its violence. Then I ask everyone not to remain indifferent. Muslims; please leave Islam. If you don’t like what you see, if you are not a terrorist yourself and do not support it, then leave Islam. Islam is a cult of terror. Muhammad was not a prophet. He was a terrorist and a psychopath no better than Hitler. You owe this mad man nothing. Just leave Islam and don’t be a fool. Don’t let the ghost of a psychopath control you with his fables or threaten you with hell and God’s punishment. God will not punish you for using your brain. God does not prize fools either. That man lied. If you are truly a good person, you have no reason to call yourself a Muslim. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Just as a member of the Nazi party can’t say he is not a racist, you can’t be innocent while you support a cult of terror such as Islam. If you are not a racist, why join the Nazi party? If you are not a terrorist why call yourself a Muslim?
If you are a non-Muslim I urge you also to read the Quran. It won’t take you long to see the violence and hate that emanates from that book. Once you come to see that Islam is not a religion but a dangerous lie, then stop being polite about it lest you hurt the Muslims’ sensitivities. Be truthful! Call a spade a spade. Do not sacrifice the truth at the altars of political correctness. Muslims need to be jolted to reality. Let them feel the heat. They have been too comfortable for too long. They must end this complacency. They must be forced to go back to their “holy†book and rethink about their belief. Once they come to know the real “pure†Islam, most of them will leave this cult. Then it would be easy to see who is a terrorist. This will also weaken the terrorists. Where do you think the terrorists get their unlimited supply of new recruits? The terrorists are these very average Muslims who heed to the call of Muhammad and rise to fight the disbelievers. Q.8:65,
Islam is not a religion based on logics or reason. It is based on lies and on hypes. When the hype is busted, Islam will disappear, like puncturing a balloon with a needle.
The exodus has already begun. Everyday more and more Muslims are learning the bitter truth about Islam and are leaving it. When this number reaches a critical mass, the whole edifice of Islam will crumble under its own weight. It will happen at once and it will happen in our own lifetime. Where did communism go? What happened to Nazism? Islam will go the same way. Do not be daunted by the big number of Muslims. Most of them are our future allies in this battle of good vs. evil. Islam is like a giant edifice built on shallow foundations of lies. No matter how big it may be, it will come down at once. We are not taking it apart brick by brick, like the reformists want to do. That would take another thousand years if at all possible. We are dynamiting its foundation. We are showing Muhammad was a psychopath, a liar and a narcissist. Once that is established, there would be nothing left of Islam.
You can help by being truthful. Do not be an appeaser and do not lie so as to not hurt your Muslim friends’ feelings. Damn with their feelings; let us save the world, their lives, your life and everybody else’s.
And you Mr. Iftikhar Ahmad; If you call this Islamophobia, you aint seen nothing yet!
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina40622.htm
Posted by SaleemSmith | April 19, 2012
We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know for certain that Islam is evil ideology/religion both in part and on the whole.
Agree 100 percent with Ali Sina – well written sir.