Guest column by Eddy Rollnick/BKK
* Â Defending the indefensible is not an easy task, especially whenÂ increasing numbers ofÂ alarmed infidels are reading the Koran and the sunnah without ideological blinkers and can no longer be hoodwinked with Â ‘Religion of Peace’ and ‘ jihad is inner struggle’ crack-pottery. One who has taken it upon himself to defend the faith is our regularly featured Islamo agit-prop Irfan Yusuf, always ready to smear and stab these pesky truth-tellers like Robert Spencer, Ayaan Ali Hirsi, Daniel Pipes, professor Israeli, Wafa Sultan and our good Sheik Yer’mami, if only he had a chance, if only he wasn’tÂ always a dollar short and a day late!
Yusuf’s rants are usually nothing more than Tu Coque (you do it too)Â repetitive, hysterical cries Â of “the Jooos, the Jooos, look at the Jooos…!” Yusuf displays a flawed, but typical Muhammedan non-understanding of Christianity and Judaism, mixed with misguided, miserable attempts at moral, ideological and religious equivalence. Unfortunately for Irfan,Â more often than not his mental acrobatics, the inability to reason logically, the brazen lies and the indigestible brew of distorted reality turn into comedy. Who said Islamaniacs are devoid of humor? Yusuf seldom fails to crack me up:
Tanya Louise Smith????
* Just guessing, Yusuf: does she look like this?
Tanya Louise Smith, a young Australian woman who converted to Islam and eventually went to Yemen. She met up with some other Australians and started studying a more fringe form of Islam, which sometimes going by the name “salafi” or “wahhabi”.
* ‘Fringe form of Islam, Yusuf? Gee, last time I checked I was told there was only ONE Islam, as per Koran and sunnah. And it appears the ‘fringe form, the wahabi’ Islam is all the rage among the soldiers of the ummah, because they already control 80% of all the mosques inÂ Western countries…you call that ‘fringe?’
She married a Palestinian man, fell pregnant and went to Gaza to live with her in-laws. Her husband, who hoped to join her, was stuck outside thanks to the Israeli blockade and Egypt closing the border. You can read her story inÂ The Australian here.
* Â Now what do we have here? Another Rachel Pancake?
How did she and her Australian classmates end up pursuing studies in a more fringe form of Islam and in an apparently more radical institution?
No doubt some will say that it’s logical that a person adopting Islam will become a danger to themselves and society. Since 9/11, it has become fashionable in some circles to equate the 14 centuries of evolving religious tradition known as Islam with just about all the ills of the world.
* ‘Some will say’ – sez Yusuf. Indeed. I do say: Islam is a danger to believers and unbelievers. Now does that make me fashionable? And ‘evolving religious tradition’ -, that’s a mouth full! Please tell us more how this ‘religious tradition evolved!’ We’re dying to know!
Hence, anyone who says anything even remotely positive about the “i” word is treated as if they’ve just screamed out the “f” word repeatedly on TV.
* Actually NOT. You’ve have more than a ‘fair go’. Â The likes of Sally Neighbour and the choir of bleeding hearts are all over you, putting lipstick on a pig, oozing compassionate ink…
Still, let’s not live in denial. There are a bunch of crazies out there happy to make a political point by blowing themselves up or flying jet aircraft into skyscrapers. They have their own peculiar ideology, and their message is essentially a political (as opposed to a religious) one. This explains why Osama bin Ladin’s taped messages are always dominated by references to political grievances.
* No Yusuf. You want the bin Ladens texts? They’re full of references to the Koran and the sunnah. And he always ‘invites’ unbelievers to ‘accept Islam’. Are you saying Islam is not political? But agreed: there are ‘a bunch of crazies out there’ and they’re not methodists, they’re ‘good Muslims’…
A major problem bin Ladin has is that he follows a sect of Islam that Smith adopted. This particular sect is the official religion of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, though apparently only a minority of Saudis actually follow it. In the non-Saudi world, it is regarded as quite heterodox.
*Â Hang in there, Yusuf: why would only a ‘minority of Sowdis’ follow it if it is the doctrine of the Wahabites who rule the kingdom fiefdom, or better: the biggest petrol station in the world?
Some Muslims (especially Shi’ites) regard it as downright heretical.
So bin Ladin is a wahhabi. He also was for many years (but not anymore) a Saudi citizen. However, that doesn’t mean all Saudis and/or Wahhabis are sitting on the “friends” section of bin Ladin’s Facebook page, even ifsome scribes think they are.
* Should we care? The ummah transcends the nation-state, and bin Laden is at home wherever the ummah protects him. Just last week the Pakistan told the US they couldn’t go after OBL on their territory. Besides: OBL is a hero not only in Sowdi, but in all of Islamistan.
We have some Wahhabis in Australia but not a huge number. At leastÂ one of them says he meets with the boys and girls from ASIO fairly regularly to “talk about everything”.
* Thank heavens we don’t have ‘a huge number’, Yusuf. But aren’t just about all the mosques in Oz in good Wahabi hands?
More extreme Wahhabis do recruit, though their efforts among first generation Muslim migrants haven’t been too successful. Why? Because these migrants have been spiritually and ideologically inoculated against any extremist influence.
*Â Now if that’s not funny I don’t know what is, Yusuf!Â Who would have innoculated them against ‘extremist influence?’ Last time I checked a Polio-epidemic broke out in Pakistan. where ‘militant’Â MuslimsÂ prevented innoculation
When you grow up in Pakistan or Turkey or Indonesia or other Muslim country, you develop a sense of what mainstream theology is.
* Especially when you go to a madrassa, Yusuf. Real hotbeds of scientific research and higher education.
But what happens to those who haven’t gone through this mainstream religious osmosis? What happens to young kids brought up in Australia?
It’s no secret that extremists target young people and converts. Sean O’Neill and Daniel McGrory, two British journalists working withÂ The Times, wrote a book in 2006 entitledÂ The Suicide Factory: Abu Hamza And The Finsbury Park Mosque.
The book tells the story of how radical preacher Abu Hamza recruited the children and grandchildren of Muslim migrants and a small band of converts. Some of his former students were among the London bombers.
Abu Hamza’s group took advantage of the weak management of religious institutions. British Muslims are largely of South Asian extraction whose cultures regarded involvement in religious institutions as a rather lowly endeavour.
Mosque managers also saw their institutions as places where they could keep alive the culture they left behind in Pakistan or Bangladesh in the 1970s. Hence, mosques are stuck in a cultural time-warp, relics of religious and social attitudes that are rarely found even in modern South Asian countries.
Into this vacuum strode Abu Hamza and his cronies, many of whom had criminal records for violence and fraud offences. After being removed from one small mosque, Abu Hamza set his sights on the large Finsbury Park Mosque built with Saudi money and supported by Prince Charles.
Could someone like Abu Hamza just as easily operate in Sydney or Melbourne? The descriptions inÂ The Suicide Factory given of the parlous state of British Muslim institutions â€“ political intrigue, scarce resources wasted on litigation, cultural irrelevance to name just a few – are what I’ve seen in Australia for over two decades.
Of course, Muslim Poms and Aussies are as dissimilar as Catholic Brazilians and East Timorese. (Nothing ‘dissimilar’ here: they have the same 10 commandments and the same liturgy /ed) But what many mosques in both the UK and Australia share is disregard for the spirirtual needs of second and third generation Muslims and converts.
* Could is be that there is no spirituality in Islam, Yusuf? Is there any spirituality in killing infidels and Jews? Sure you know the answer to that…
Further, Muslims are by and large a very secular lot (???) most of whom will only be seen at the mosque on the two major feast days. You don’t see prominent Muslims from BRW’s top 100 list getting involved in managing religious institutions.
* ‘Secular lot,’Â Yusuf? Haha!Â Aren’t you the best example that Muslims take their religion ideology seriously…? Â and no, we don’t see ‘prominent Muslims from BRW’s top 100 list anywhere simply because there aren’t any…
Now comes the hammer:
The good news is that young Muslims are taking control of their own spiritual destinies. Young Muslims are looking to Europe and the United States for sensible relevant voices likeÂ Hamza Yusuf Hanson andÂ Tariq Ramadan.
* Â “Young educated Muslims are now taking over religious institutions”…
* Translation: more slick, more sly taqiyya…
The only opposition they face is from a coalition of radical thick-Sheiks who label them infidels and radical neo-conservative pundits for whom the only good Muslim is an ex-Muslim.
Young educated Muslims are now taking over religious institutions. The new face of the Lebanese Muslim Association in Lakemba isÂ a surfing sheik whovisits schools with a young rabbi. And you can watch the CEO of the Islamic Council of Victoria comperingÂ an SBS talkshow each Wednesday night, while a member of his executive isÂ a stand-up comic who wants to run for Mayor in the Sydney’s Camden.
An Australian Islam with a genuinely Aussie accent is a key element to ensuring the Abu Hamza’s of this world don’t gain a foothold in Australia, and that the Tanya Smith’s can learn their faith without having to travel into a culturally unfamiliar environment.
* So now Tanya Smith can learn the one and only Islam undiluted without having to go to Yemen? Here and now including the Aussie accent? You’re a worry, Yusuf.
* “Young educated Muslims?”Â Like Mohammed Atta and his crew? That’s wonderful, Yusuf! A ‘surfing sheik’ who found a Jewish Rabbi sucker for ‘interfaith da’awa?’ And a Muhammedan comedian to rule over the ‘fruitloops and rednecks’ of Camden: yep, the moon is truly made of green cheese!
* AndÂ finally we discovered this on yourÂ ABC-unhinged blog, Yusuf: looks like a lot of people got your number:
Gee, and I thought the slick grandson of Hassan al Banna is the grey eminence of the Muslim brotherhood who wants the sharia rule over EUrabia! How could I get it so wrong? And is Hamza Yusuf not in the eyes of Muslim convert Stephen Schwartz “the Sufi Master of Deceit?” Is it the same Hamza Yusuf, the ‘Islamic scholar’, who proudly announced after the convention of the Islamic Society of North America, “I took Daniel Pipest test and I failed. And I want to say to all of you, I hope you fail that test too.” There was no “test” involved, just a few questions, but Yusuf informed Daniel Pipes that he failed it anyway, that’s useful information because it identifies him as an extremist.
Besides: which mosque in Australia is NOT using Koran and accompanying scriptures from the King Fahd Academy? Any idea? Is the imam with a genuine Aussie accent peddling a different kind of misogyny, polygamy, FGM, stoning of adulterers and killing or forcibly converting the kuffars until the religion of Allah rules the globe?
Nice try, Yussuf. But once again, you failed miserably to convince anyone…
* The poster by the nick of ‘eskimo’ is most welcome to join the WoJ forum, anytime!