Father Zacharias Botros Interview

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Islam’s Bane

A must read interview. The good father even gives a “shout out” to Jihad Watch. Hyperlinks provided in the original. “The strange teachings of Muhammad,” from FrontPage Mag, H/T JW:

Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Coptic priest Fr. Zakaria Botros, who al Qaeda has called “one of the most wanted infidels in the world,” issuing a 60 million dollar bounty on his head. Popular Arabic magazines also call him “Islam’s public enemy #1”. He hosts a television program, “Truth Talk,” on Life TV. His two sites are Islam-Christianity.net and FatherZakaria.net. He was recently awarded the Daniel of the Year award.


FP: Fr. Zakaria Botros, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

Botros: Thank you for inviting me.

FP: Let’s begin with your own personal story, in terms of Islam and Christianity.

Botros: I am a Copt. In my early 20s, I became a priest. Of course, in predominantly Muslim Egypt, Christians—priests or otherwise—do not talk about religion with Muslims. My older brother, a passionate Christian learned that lesson too late: after preaching to Muslims, he was eventually ambushed by Muslims who cut out his tongue and murdered him. Far from being deterred or hating Muslims, I eventually felt more compelled to share the Good News with them. Naturally, this created many problems: I was constantly harassed, threatened, and eventually imprisoned and tortured for one year, simply for preaching to Muslims. Egyptian officials charged me with abetting “apostasy,” that is, for being responsible for the conversion of Muslims to Christianity. Another time I was arrested while boarding a plane out of Egypt. Eventually, however, I managed to flee my native country and resided for a time in Australia and England. Anyway, my life-story with Christianity and Islam is very long and complicated. In fact, an entire book about it was recently published.

FP: I apologize for asking this, but what were some of the tortures you endured when you were imprisoned?

Botros: Due to my preaching the Gospel, Egyptian soldiers broke into my home putting their guns to my head. Without telling me why, they arrested me and placed me in an extremely small prison cell (1.8×1.5×1.8 meters, which was further problematic, since I am 1.83 meters tall), with other inmates, and in well over 100 degree temperatures, with little ventilation, no windows, and no light. No beds of course, we slept on the floor—in shifts, as there was not enough room for all of us to lie down. Due to the lack of oxygen, we used to also take shifts lying with our noses under the crack of the cell door to get air. As a result, I developed a kidney infection (receiving, of course, no medical attention). Mosquitoes plagued us. Food was delivered in buckets; we rarely even knew what the gruel was. The prison guards would often spit in the bucket in front of us, as well as fling their nose pickings in it.

FP: My heart goes out to you in terms of this terrible suffering you endured.

What is your primary purpose in what you do?

Botros: Simple: the salvation of souls. As I always say, inasmuch as I may reject Islam, I love Muslims. Thus, to save the latter, I have no choice but to expose the former for the false religion it is. Christ commanded us to spread the Good News. There is no rule that says Christians should proselytize the world—except for Muslims! Of course, trying to convert the latter is more dangerous. But we cannot forsake them. This is more important considering that many Muslims are “religious” and truly seek to please God; yet are they misdirected. So I want to take their sincerity and piety and direct it to the True Light.

FP: In what way can you summarize for us why you think that Islam is a “false” religion?

Botros: Theologically, as I am a Christian priest, I believe that only Christianity offers the truth. Based on my faith in Christ, I reject all other religious systems as man-made and thus not reflective of divine truths.Moreover, one of the greatest crimes committed by Muhammad—a crime which he shall surely never be forgiven for—is that he denied the grace and mercy that Christ brought, and took humanity back to the age of the law.

But faith aside, common sense alone makes it clear that, of all the world’s major religions, Islam is most certainly false. After all, while I may not believe in, say, Buddhism, still, it obviously offers a good philosophical system and people follow it apparently for its own intrinsic worth. The same cannot be said about Islam. Of all the religions it is the only one that has to threaten its adherents with death if they try to break away; that, from its inception, in order to “buy” followers, has been dedicated to fulfilling some of the worst impulses of man—for conquest, sex, plunder, pride. History alone demonstrates all this: while Christianity was spread far and wide by Christians who altruistically gave up their lives, simply because they believed in Christ, Islam spread by force, by the edge of the sword, by fear, threats, and lurid enticements to the basest desires of man. Islam is by far the falsest religion—an assertion that is at once theologically, philosophically, and historically demonstrable.

FP: You always document your discussions with Islamic sources. Why do Muslim clerics and imams have such a difficulty discussing what Islam itself teaches and instead just attack you personally?

Botros: I think the answer is obvious. The Islamic sources, the texts, speak for themselves. Muslims have no greater enemy than their own scriptures—particularly the Hadith and Sira—which constantly scandalize and embarrass Muslims. To date, I have done well over 500 different episodes dedicated to various topics regarding Islam. And for every one of these episodes, all my material comes directly from Islam’s textual sources, particularly usul al-fiqh—the Koran, hadith, and ijma of the ulema as found in their tafsirs.

So what can the sheikhs of Islam do? If they try to address the issue I raise based on Islam’s texts and sharia, they will have no choice but to agree—for instance that concubinage is legal, or that drinking camel urine is advocated. The only strategy left them, then, is to ignore all that I present and attack my person, instead.

And when well-meaning Muslims ask their leaders to respond to these charges, one of their favorite responses is to quote the Koran, where it says “Do not ask questions of things that will hurt you.”

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Raymond Ibrahim: St. Francis of Assisi, Fr. Zakaria Botros, and Islam: Continuity

While not formally connected, two books I recently finished reading — St. Francis of Assisi and the Conversion of Muslims and Defying Death: Zakaria Botross, Apostle to Islam — complement each other very well, specifically by establishing continuity between medieval and modern Islam, and, in so doing, demonstrating that Islamic intolerance has a long pedigree.

For instance, after St. Francis and his companions challenged the sultan’s ulema to a theological disputation in order to show the superiority of Christianity to Islam, the latter refused and “instead insisted that they be killed [by beheading], in accordance with Islamic law.” (p. 60)

Medieval Muslims appear to have also had the same soft spots of today’s Muslims. A contemporary notes, “The Saracens treated with great cruelty those Christians who spoke ill of the law of Mahomet.” (p. 90) Other anecdotes reveal that Muslims could tolerate Christians—except whenever the latter questioned Muhammad. Reminiscent of how today’s non-Muslims often get themselves in trouble, or worse, killed, whenever they allude to the prophet of Islam—whether by quoting history, publishing cartoons, or naming teddy bears “Muhammad.”

After St. Francis asked the sultan to convert to Christianity, the latter confessed: “I could not do that. My people would stone me.” (p. 65) Indeed, the sultan was eventually attacked “for his tolerant attitude towards Christians and was accused of failing to be a ‘fervent Muslim.’” (p. 75) These two points are a reminder that today’s Muslim apostate, no less than his medieval counterpart, must be executed—as we see in daily headlines—and that Muslims who are too “friendly” with infidels, in direct contravention to Koran 3:28, can be denounced of apostasy.

If the reader still thinks the above is aberrant or “outdated” behavior for Muslims, another book—Defying Death: Zakaria Botross, Apostle to Islam (2007)—makes clear how tenacious such reactions are. A Coptic priest who has spent his life proselytizing Muslims, Botross’ experiences with the former mirror St. Francis.’ According to his biography, when the priest began preaching to Muslims in Egypt, he was imprisoned, tortured, and eventually deported; when Muslims actually began converting, his life, according to Islamic law—which condemns both the convert and converter—was forfeit. 

Undeterred and now in his mid 70s, he currently hosts a very popular Arabic satellite programdedicated to examining Islam vis-à-vis Christianity, especially through their scriptures, in an effort to debunk the former. And just like St. Francis, he constantly invites the ulema to debate him—only to receive death threats, including a multi-million dollar bounty on his head.

Botross often explores arcane Arabo-Islamic texts, many which contain unflattering material concerning the Prophet—he recently ran a series dedicated to documenting the “perverse sexual habits of the Prophet.” As with St. Francis’ experiences, the Muslim response, including live callers hysterically promising to cut Botross’ head off, confirms that Muhammad, then and now, is a soft spot for Muslims.

Finally, as with the sultan who, reflecting upon the possibility of his conversion to Christianity, concluded that “I could not do that. My people would stone me,” the many Muslim converts appearing on his show and calling in, reveal that their apostasy from Islam has made them outcasts, many in hiding, others on the run for their lives, often from their families.

12 thoughts on “Father Zacharias Botros Interview”

  1. An interesting comment from Hesperado on Jihad Watch:

    I hate to rain on the parade, and while Father Zakaria is incontestably an extraordinarily brave man, there are two important potential problems with his mission. Before I get to them, it is to be noted that his mission is bifurcated:

    a) to expose the ridiculous and evil nature of central Islamic texts and therefore of Islam

    b) to try to save as many Muslims as possible for Christ.

    It is with (b) — his evangelism — that the two important potential problems with Father Zakaria’s mission arise. These two problems are:

    1) His evangelism can get in the way of the ruthless measures we the West collectively need to adopt — they can get in the way proactively by softening our resolve to change as a society toward rational ruthlessness, and they can get in the way of actually implementing certain rationally ruthless measures once we recover our brains and our balls as a society.

    2) His evangelism presupposes an enormous amount of trust for Muslims who claim they have left Islam.

    As for #1, I realize it isn’t necessarily so: there are ways to coordinate his evangelism with our own needs for rational ruthlessness. I am only pointing out a potential. At the very least, it would be comforting to ask Father Zakaria directly whether he would step out of the way if faced with the dilemma where the process of saving Muslims interfered with our needs to protect ourselves from them.

    As for #2, consider this anecdote Father Zakaria shares in the FP interview:

    For instance, one man recently contacted me, in tears, telling me how, when he was a Muslim, he wanted to kill me—to cut off my head! He spent much time and effort plotting how he can find me so he can kill me (and “please” Allah and his prophet). So he kept watching my shows, hoping somehow to find a clue that would help him locate me. Instead, a miracle occurred: over time, he realized I wasn’t making things up, that everything I said was in fact in Islam’s books. He stopped hating me. And in time, he came to Christ.

    I wouldn’t trust this Muslim as far as I could throw a Koran. For a long time, he wanted to hunt Father Zakaria down and behead him. Now he tells Father Zakaria that he has changed and now loves Christ. In a rationally ruthless society, such a Muslim — supposedly now ex-Muslim — would not be trusted. The Spanish Inquisition developed a rationally ruthless process, for good reason: innumerable Muslims (who had invaded then occupied Spain for nearly 800 years and who had killed countless Christians for their faith) in Spanish society in the immediate aftermath of the Reconquista pretended to have converted out of Islam, but were in fact analogous to secret agents for Islam, and thus had to be ferreted out for the safety of the newly reconquered state.

  2. Father Zakaria bases his approach on the Christian teaching that God loves everyone including the muslims, that we are to love our enemies, that love involves putting the welfare of the other ahead of our own interests and that “If anyone says, ‘I love God,’ yet hates his brother, he is a liar”.

    Although the Christian world view forms the basis of our western justice system and the rule of law and therefore insists that the guilty are held accountable for their actions, Hesperado is quite right – the “Rational Ruthlessness” approach is completely at odds with Christianity. The Oxford Dictionary defines ruthless as “having no pity or compassion”, whereas biblical justice is inseparable from compassion. A ruthless approach for instance will say that a muslim who has not broken any law should be deported or killed, whereas a Christian will defend the rights of that person because punishing an innocent person is unjust. A Christian such as Father Zakaria will care for the needs of the muslim and look to free them from the cruelty of the muslim dogma, whereas this would be anathema to a ruthless person. No rational person could describe Jesus behaviour toward any person as ruthless.

    The Bible also teaches that Christianity is not a religion of ritual and pure belief, but of concrete action. “Is not this the kind of fasting I have chosen: to loose the chains of injustice and untie the cords of the yoke, to set the oppressed free and break every yoke?” Because of this reality, the followers of Christ will at all times be working to “loose the chains of injustice” and speak on behalf of those being unjustly punished. Just as the chief opponents of Islamic cruelty are Christians, the chief opponents of “rational” ruthlessness toward muslims will also be Christians.

    Consequently, anyone proposing this course of action will need to factor in the annihilation or expulsion of Christians as well as muslims. Ironic, considering the fact that Christians are a primary target of islamic violence, and that the main objections to Islam are based on Christian principles.

  3. He is a brave man who speaks the truth the the house of the enemy.

    A Christian,
    I would disagree that the main objections to islam are based on Christian principals. There seem to be fundamental laws for the well-being of any society, which encourage growth and tolerance especially with respect to competing groups. From the point of natural law I suspect that this is necessary. However islam prohibits growth, stifles tolerance and is an anachronism that should have passed away a long time ago. I feel that objections to Islam are more universal than just argument based on Christian doctrine,

    best regards to all

  4. Thanks kaw,
    your point is good and my statement was probably a little over simplified. Many of our objections were introduced to our awareness through Christianity, however it would be perfectly reasonable for someone else to arrive at these by themselves. Having said that of course, there have been plenty of ‘rational’ movements such as Lenin’s that as part of their rationality discarded those Biblical principles we take for granted today.

  5. True, and he responded by saying “I love the muslims” and devoted his life to seeing them saved.

    Corrie Ten Boom and her family hid Jews from the Nazis in WWII until they were captured. She saw her elderly father rot to death in prison, watched her sister beaten to death in Ravensbruck and very nearly died of the torture & mistreatment she received herself in that camp. After the war she devoted her life to caring for the prison guards and Gestapo who had been dehumanised by the war and the Nazi Party.

    In 2001, a Pakistani man Asif had a traffic accident. He was prayed for by an anonymous Christian woman and when he saw the prayer answered approached his Mulvi to ask about Jesus. He was thrown into a cell and had poison forced down his throat in the hope that he would die before becoming a Christian. He believed as he lay in his own vomit, then managed to escape the cell after surviving the poison. The next day he told his parents that he believed and was kicked out of home, so he went to another city and began to preach about Jesus openly. He has repeatedly been beaten publicly but he continues to preach because he is convinced that God is alive and active and loves the Pakistani muslims deeply.

    In 303 AD, a military officer by the name of Adrian was given the job of killing the Christians during the 10th Roman persecution. After time and again seeing the way that their relationship with Jesus filled them with courage and peace even as they were dying, he returned to the judge that gave him the list of Christians and said “put down my name with those to be tortured. I also have become a Christian.” His wife had secretly become a believer and chose to join him in prison until he was finally killed. She held his hand as the executioner killed him by smashing his arms and legs with a hammer. As Christians had continued to respond in this way for the last 200 years, the heart of the Roman Empire was finally softened.

    The Apostle Paul (after being beaten, stoned and imprisoned for preaching the Gospel) said :”Rather, as servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: in great endurance; in troubles, hardships and distresses; in beatings, imprisonments and riots; in hard work, sleepless nights and hunger; in purity, understanding, patience and kindness; in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love; in truthful speech and in the power of God; with weapons of righteousness in the right hand and in the left; through glory and dishonor, bad report and good report; genuine, yet regarded as impostors; known, yet regarded as unknown; dying, and yet we live on; beaten, and yet not killed; sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; poor, yet making many rich; having nothing, and yet possessing everything.” (2 Corinthians 6: 4-10)

    “Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.” (2 Corinthians 4:16-18)

    The glory that Paul talks about is not a better reward; glory refers to the revelation of God’s character. A lot of western talk about Christianity is rubbish; it focuses on rituals or on promises of God’s “blessing”. Biblical Christianity on the other hand is about seeing God’s Kingdom come, his will done “on earth as it is in heaven”. We want the world to re-learn love because that is who God is, but to do so may cost us everything. We have been given what Paul called the ministry of reconciliation “as though God were making his appeal through us” – to reconcile people with each other, with the environment and with God.

    This world view does not ever fit because human nature is self-seeking and while people want to be loved unconditionally, they don’t want to give unconditional love to others. So just as Christians have suffered under Roman rule, been burned at the stake by false “church leaders”, been killed and tortured by muslims and communists; if ever someone comes to power with a “ruthless” approach (marketed as rational or not), he will persecute Christians because love, compassion, empathy and justice will be his enemy. And the Christian response will be love even for this newest face of evil.

  6. To A Christian, do me a favor and speak for yourself. Christianity is not about letting Muslims or anyone else walk all over you. We have enemies out there, and we have to fight back. The father and past Popes have proven this.

  7. Father Botros is the glue that holds Middle Eastern Christians together. No one is helping him and this is why he lives in hiding. He has many millions of followers around the world and he is dearly loved by them.

    He is right up there with St. Francis ( which means Freedom). He broardcasts all the time and he is one brave warrior. A pity he does not get a lot of help from other churches and organized religions. He is a Copt and a deeply kind, charitable and a loving man who is protecting his flock the best way he can in the “worst” of times. I pray daily for his mission and his work and may God protect him. always.

    St. Francis, make me an instrument of they peace.
    Where there is hatred let me sow love;
    Where there is injury, Pardon;
    Where there is doubt, faith;
    Where there is despair, hope;
    Where there is darkness, Light; and
    Where there is sadness, Joy. Amen.

  8. Father Zacharias Botros is one of the greatest man ever . He is surely a Saint. He has been saying all the truth about Islam using Islamic sources and yet so many people across the world still think that Islam is the religion of peace but it is clearly not.
    It always takes time for the truth to come out and thanks to Father Zacharias Botros the truth has revealted itself to million of people.

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