The Myth of the Moderate Muslim

Take your pick:

We have two kinds of Muslims: Terrorist Muslims and ignorant Muslims. The former are those who know Islam well and live by its dictums. The latter have no clue about their religion and have an idealized image of Islam that has no bases in facts.

Every “moderate” Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a “moderate” Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith.  It is time to put an end to the charade of “moderate Islam.” There is no such thing as moderate Muslim. Muslims are either jihadists or dormant jihadists – moderate, they are not.  (by Ali Sina,,)

Patton’s Rock Soup Method

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Diogenes spent 1,400 years looking for a Moderate Muslim and never found one. Now Diogenes was a smart fellow, but maybe he didn’t look in the right places. Her should have tried California. What could be more moderate than a Muslima wearing a headscarf at a Disneyland Theme Park? (How about Heinrich Himmler wearing a Swastika at Dachau?)

Let me Know if You Find BigFoot While You’re Hunting for “Moderate Islam”

David Swindle: The Appeasers Pretzel Logic

Will New York’s Mosque Protests Aid Terrorist Recruiters?

Yesterday I published a post at NewsReal Blog explaining the anti-Semitism embedded within Islam and the consequences we see today as a result.

John Guardiano submitted a rebuttal. His response in a nutshell: I’m helping the enemy by agreeing that their interpretation with Islam is correct. Instead of telling the truth about Islam — “demonizing” Islam in John’s words — I should be embracing some supposed “moderate Islam.” I should be labeling those who want to kill Jews and impose Sharia on the planet as “misinterpreters” of true Islam. (Newsrealblog)

Opinion: Do moderate Muslims exist?

According to Tariq Ramadan, a Muslim needs just three things in order to be “European”: be law-abiding, speak the language, be loyal to the country and its values (critically and constructively). But, in fact, you can be the most radical Muslim and still be law-abiding, speak the language and be loyal to all the values you’re not critical of. A good example of such a Muslim is Tariq Ramadan himself.

I don’t think that’s enough. Integration is not about being law-abiding, or about accepting those values you think don’t conflict with your religion. It’s about integrating those values into your outlook and religion. (Islam in Europe)

“Moderate Muslims” threaten to turn “radical” if they get angry

A very revealing AP puff piece on the horrors that “moderate” Muslims are supposedly experiencing in America today. “NYC mosque debate will shape American Islam,” by Rachel Zoll for AP, August 29 (thanks to Robert Spencer):

NEW YORK – Adnan Zulfiqar, a graduate student, former U.S. Senate aide and American-born son of Pakistani immigrants, will soon give the first khutbah, or sermon, of the fall semester at the University of Pennsylvania. His topic has presented itself in the daily headlines and blog posts over the disputed mosque near ground zero.What else could he choose, he says, after a summer remembered not for its reasoned debate, but for epithets, smears, even violence?

And whose fault is that, exactly? Mosque supporters have consistently smeared mosque opponents as racists, bigots, hatemongers, “Islamophobes” — the usual array of charges levied at those who are leading the fight to raise awareness of the jihad and Islamic supremacism, but it was a new thing to see these charges levied promiscuously at the 70% of Americans who oppose the mosque.

As he writes, Zulfiqar frets over the potential fallout and what he and other Muslim leaders can do about it. Will young Muslims conclude they are second-class citizens in the U.S. now and always?

No one, of course, is saying the Muslims are or should be second-class citizens in the U.S. We have raised legitimate questions about the Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf’s support for Sharia and Hamas, and about the symbolism of the Ground Zero mosque as a triumphal mosque. None of this has anything to do with Muslims being second-class citizens. It is simply asking that they accord to non-Muslims the consideration and respect that they demand for themselves. It is asking that they not engage in activity that amounts to sedition, in working to replace the Constitution with a system of laws that would deny basic liberties, and asking law enforcement and government authorities to be cognizant of the nature of Sharia and how it is at variance with those liberties.

“They’re already struggling to balance, `I’m American, I’m Muslim,’ and their ethnic heritage. It’s very disconcerting,” said Zulfiqar, 32, who worked for former U.S. Sen. Max Cleland, a Georgia Democrat, and now serves Penn’s campus ministry. “A controversy like this can make them radical or become more conservative in how they look at things or how they fit into the American picture.”…

Threat noted. But why would it do that? Islamic supremacists and Leftists know: no matter how much they lie about the words, deeds, and positions on various questions of mosque opponents, and no matter how much they defame and smear them, those who oppose the mosque are never, never going to strap bombs on themselves and blow themselves up at the next hand-wringing meeting about “Islamophobia.” In other words, some people, no matter how hard you push them, never become “radicalized.” Why is it that adherents of the Religion of Peace who supposedly reject the version of Islam of Al-Qaeda and its ilk as a twisting and hijacking of their peaceful religion might nevertheless adopt that version of Islam as their own if they believe that some people are being mean to them?

Eboo Patel, an American Muslim leader and founder of Interfaith Youth Core, a Chicago nonprofit that promotes community service and religious pluralism, said Muslims are unfortunately experiencing what all immigrant groups endured in the U.S. before they were fully accepted as American. Brandeis University historian Jonathan D. Sarna has noted that Jews faced a similar backlash into the 1800s when they tried to build synagogues, which were once banned in New York….

Yes, yes, of course. You may recall from the histories of those days that Jews in New York loudly proclaimed that they were there to take over, and numerous Jews in New York engaged in terror plotting. You remember the Fort Hood jihad shooting, the Arkansas recruiting center jihad shooting, the Christmas underwear bomb jihad attempt, the Times Square jihad car bomb attempt, the Fort Dix jihad plot, the North Carolina jihad plot, the Seattle jihad shooting, the JFK Airport jihad plot, and on and on. No, wait! Those weren’t plots by 19th-century Jews in New York, but by 21st-century Muslims all over the U.S.! My mistake!

And no, the point is not that all Muslims in America are responsible for these and other jihad plots. The point is that when the Ground Zero imam and so many other Muslim leaders support Sharia, refuse to condemn Hamas and/or other jihad terror groups, and are manifestly dishonest, it makes the demand that Americans assume that they are different from the Muslims who were responsible for those jihad plots seem like sheer bullying, and a refusal to engage the legitimate concerns that people have about Sharia and the intentions of the Ground Zero mosque organizers.

Patel believes American Muslims are on the same difficult but inevitable path toward integration.”I’m not saying this is going to be happy,” Patel said. “But I’m extremely optimistic.”

Yet, the overwhelming feeling is that the controversy has caused widespread damage that will linger for years.

No, all the jihad terror, all the supremacist declarations, all the lies and all the smears have caused widespread damage that will linger for years. And the Muslim advocacy groups behind the lies and smears, such as CAIR, just don’t care about that damage — because they can turn around after causing it and exploit any resulting “backlash” to reinforce their claim to privileged victim status.

American Muslim leaders say the furor has emboldened opposition groups to resist new mosques around the country, at a time when there aren’t enough mosques or Islamic schools to serve the community….

Actually there are large mosques being built all over, for Muslim communities that have neither the numbers nor the money to sustain them. And that, too, raises questions that if you dare to ask, you’re accused of “Islamophobia.”

U.S. Muslims who have championed democracy and religious tolerance question what they’ve accomplished. If the “extremist” label can be hung on someone as apparently liberal as the imam at the center of the outcry, Feisal Abdul Rauf, then any Muslim could come under attack. Feisal supports women’s rights, human rights and interfaith outreach.

Oh, and Hamas.

“The joke is on moderate Muslims,” said Muqtedar Khan, a University of Delaware political scientist and author of “American Muslims, Bridging Faith and Freedom.” “What’s the point if you’re going to be treated the same way as a radical? If I get into trouble are they going to treat me like I’m a supporter of al-Qaeda?”…

What’s the point? Did he really ask that? How about this for a point: Muslims should not support Al-Qaeda because of human decency. Because of respect for human life. Because of the importance of human rights. Because the “radicals” are perpetrating great evil, murdering innocent people and working for the subjugation of women and non-Muslims, and the extinguishing of the freedom of speech and the freedom of conscience. And apparently all that is just fine with Muqtedar Khan, if you make him angry.

That’s “moderation”?

6 thoughts on “The Myth of the Moderate Muslim”


  2. “They’re already struggling to balance, `I’m American, I’m Muslim,’ and their ethnic heritage. It’s very disconcerting,” said Zulfiqar, 32, who worked for former U.S. Sen. Max Cleland, a Georgia Democrat, and now serves Penn’s campus ministry. “A controversy like this can make them radical or become more conservative in how they look at things or how they fit into the American picture.”…

    Struggling to balance? That is it, Muslims have a balance problem.. I’ve been saying it all along, they seem to have more than their fair share of zealots and fanatics…

    You know what, take all the religions who have offended and are offended and tell them to get behind me in line, and all the rest of the women in this country who are still waiting for the ERA to be ratified. I am offended, no OUTRAGED, that ninety years after obtaining suffrage, the women of the US would have been subjected to an invasive specie of political ideology and theocracy, one based entirely upon male domination and female subjugation, has been allowed to flourish and spread across the country like the kudzu vine epidemic spread across the south… Nope, bad analogy, there actually are some promising technologies that can make good use out of the kudzu…not so for Islam unless it is a vehicle for spreading more terror and mayhem across the globe.

  3. Yes Deborah Islam does have a balance problem. They are unbalanced in thought and deed. Without education, Islam is doomed. When will Islam have a renaissance and get your population re educated. You are living back in the time of your “profit”. Sorry to say Mohomad is no gentle “Jesus” and neither are any of the Islamic followers.

    You will never attain a happy and contented society while your are condoning and supporting and taking part in torrorism. This is an “Unbalanced notion”. Wake up Islam or your will eat yourselves alive.

  4. Y’know,I reckon this is going to come down to personal battles with these idiots,world governments ? what a joke.

  5. Most so called moderate muslims play their ‘race card’ if you will when it comes to those who criticize them for not being more proactive in disassociating themselves with their fundamentalist ‘breathren’ using it for political manipulation and for accusation of islamaphobia to all who find their malingering and passive agressive natures offensive behavior as americans. This silent majority sees no problem with not calling out their brothers so to speak but gets offended when americans say they don’t know who the next ‘moderate’ to go rogue will be. I’ve heard some muslims say in defense that the nazis were allowed by the majority of christians who went along with them but even if that were the case it doesn’t give muslims license to go along with the radicals ; as if one wrong would justify another although it can be said that even when the majority of germans were silent to the germans there were a lot of them that helped jewish and other faiths to survive during the war. I think a lot of the feeling is that the silent ‘moderate’ muslims today still have sympathy for their radical brothers because even though they enjoy america’s benefits they don’t want to accept that the benefits in america come with a price and that’s tolerance of the differences of other cultures which many of these ‘moderates’ view only from a skewed double standard in favor of themselves. It is impingent upon muslims to reclaim their ‘religion of peace’ which personally I question the possibility after reading much of the kuran. By the way many muslims defend the kuran with an similar analogy to christianity as previously discussed related to moderates in different cultures and they compare the violence of the bible found in the old testament with their book but it is without merit because the new testament is what the doctrine of most christianity now. So called moderate muslims are grasping at straws when they make such arguments and ignoring the perceptions people quite justifiably have with statistics and not the imaginations of phobia. They may also consider that the very acts of their terrorist brothers actually help to engender such ‘phobias’ that may occur in relation to them by some since terror begets anxiety and fear. It would behoove them to separate themselves convincingly from their fundamentalist kidnappers.

  6. I have yet to find a moderate muslim ‘friend’ after many attempts to converse with them when they show up at the coffee shops with their merry little sociable selves. It seems they would be eager to hang out and chat about peace and tolerance while they are being symbolic props for the advertisement of islam and general antipathy for america which ironically happily supports their angst with the freedom of expression and espresso if you will. Such goodwill and peace is undeniable and impressive but perhaps they could convince me too if I were taking a bribe for my tolerance.

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