Egypt's Coptic Christians are Facing Genocide

Cairo’s ‘garbage people,’ dumped again

First they drove them out of their homes and into the garbage, then they killed their pigs, and now they are burning their churches. In between they kidnapped their children, raped them and forcibly converted them to Islam.  Egypt’s remaining Christians are being systematically wiped out.

The ‘Zabaleen,’ the mostly Coptic Christians who famously live in and off of Cairo’s garbage, are reeling from a recent attack in which nine people from the neighborhood were killed.

By Amira Hass

On Tuesday evening, when hundreds or even a few thousand Cairenes attacked a mainly Coptic neighborhood they were not surprised to be met, in the streets and courtyards, and in the homes they invaded, by mountains of garbage. Some was scattered around outside, some was already wrapped up. Cloth, scrap metal, plastic and glass bottles, bits of rotting food. On Thursday morning the same sights greeted the 5,000 or so people – mainly Copts – who attended the funeral for the nine victims of the attack: males from the neighborhood, between the ages of 12 and 35. The cortege of vehicles crawled through the narrow streets and to the stone Samaan el-Kharaz Church at the top of the cliff.

Cairo’s Zabaleen neighborhood, last week. The residents are sure the army collaborated with the attackers.

One activist in the Tahrir Square movement, who is not Coptic, reported that the funeral was the first time since the Egyptian uprising began on January 25 that she sensed the revolution might fail.

The cliff is part of the Mokattam Ridge, as is Zabaleen (garbage collectors ), which is the name given both to this neighborhood and to the 66,000 souls (including some 2,000 Moslems ) who live and work here.

A monastery employee told Haaretz that the profession came about “in the days of the British, whose army camps created much garbage. Our families came to Cairo from the south. They gathered waste to feed their pigs, sorting out the food scraps from the paper – the start of waste sorting. The British also liked pork, so gradually our families began to collect garbage from other places, too, and expanded the business.”

Another version traces the Zabaleen to a Bedouin tribe that collected waste from Cairo households in the early 20th century. They turned the organic waste into dried cakes that could be burned for fuel, and sold them for use in public baths and private homes. In the 1930s, when kerosene became widely available, they looked for other clients and found the Copts, who were landless and raised pigs. Decades before recycling caught on around the world the Zabaleen were sorting paper, glass, iron, tin, cloth, plastic and bones. At first they bought the waste from the Bedouin, but gradually took over the task of collecting the garbage, eventually collecting about a third of Cairo’s waste (now estimated at 10,000 tons a day ), and recycling 80 percent of it. Continue reading, here>>>

The Western cheerleaders for the Islamic revolution will be sobering up soon, any day now:

Islamists see corruption-free Egypt

Flying pigs anyone?

“When we talk about the slogans of the revolution — freedom, social justice, equality — all of these are in the sharia (Islamic law),” Erian said. “This revolution called for what the Islamic sharia calls for,” he added.

There is more

Oh Muslims, do not take the Jews or Christians as friends or protectors:

“Mission No. 77”: Seized papers suggest Egyptian government role in planning New Year’s church bombing

Since the fall of the Mubarak regime, protesters have seized thousands of documents from State Security Agency offices. The Muslim Brotherhood has also availed itself of the opportunity to seek out and destroy files on their activities, with groups linked to the organization reportedly storming police stations and other offices.

This would not at all be the first time the State Security Agency has been complicit in the persecution of Christians.

The Muslim Brotherhood will point to this evidence and say they, as an Islamic group, would do a better job of “protecting” (wink-wink) the Copts, and those who have been sold a bill of goods on the Ikhwan’s supposed “moderation” and “nonviolence” will be in for an awful surprise. “Egypt unsure what to do about trove of security documents,” by Hannah Alam and Mohammed Sabry for McClatchy Newspapers, March 7:


4 thoughts on “Egypt's Coptic Christians are Facing Genocide”

  1. The Zabaleen are so much classier than the Muslims in Egypt.
    Egypt is worth visiting for its ancient ruins (pre-Islam) and communities like this.
    No one wants to see Muslims.
    No one wants to see Islam.
    When will they get the message that Islam is repulsive to the rest of the world?
    And no amount of preaching changes that reality.

  2. If Islamic perfection comes as a result of genocide and wholesale destruction, then it isn’t worth it.
    If Allah isn’t the devil, I don’t know who is.

  3. Coptic bishop: “People who claim that Egypt’s Copts exercise their full freedom of religion and expression are delusional”

    In this report, the Egyptian high court has permitted Christians who convert to Islam but want to return to Christianity, or who were administratively converted because a parent did, to be identified again as Christians on their national identification cards. But permission does not guarantee judges will act accordingly or will be held accountable for not complying, and so the Copts interviewed below are at best cautiously optimistic about how much will change in practice.

    There is also no guarantee of bureaucratic promptness, or of immunity from an application of Sharia’s more traditional punishment for apostasy from Islam: death.

    “Court Allows Christian Reconverts to State Religion on ID Cards,” by Heba Fahmy for the Daily News Egypt, July 4:

    Cairo — Egypt’s Supreme Administrative Court ruled on Sunday in favor of Christian reconverts, allowing them to be identified as Christians on their national ID cards and birth certificates.
    The court stated that the interior ministry must implement the order automatically in similar cases without reverting to the judiciary for individual verdicts, criticizing the ministry for refusing to implement similar verdicts passed previously.
    Lawyer Peter El-Naggar said that Copts have been fighting for this verdict in court since 2004, adding that several similar verdicts, issued in 2008, have not been implemented.
    The Supreme Administrative Court issued a similar verdict on Feb.12, however, the State Council’s fatwa committee (which is a lesser authority) later issued a contradictory verdict saying that each case must be reviewed individually by the court.
    “That is why the Supreme Administrative Court issued another verdict [on Sunday] to overturn the committee’s ruling,” El-Naggar explained.
    “The problem with Egypt’s judicial system is that each judge interprets the laws based on biases and personal beliefs,” he said.
    El-Naggar was optimistic that this court order would be executed this time, saying that respect for Egypt’s judicial system and its integrity improved following the January 25 Revolution.
    However Bishop Filopateer Gamil of the Giza Archbishopric disagreed, saying that he was skeptical that the verdict would be implemented by authorities.
    “We’ve always commended our judicial system even before the revolution,” Gamil told Daily News Egypt. “However the problem is with the authorities who refuse to implement the court orders issued in our favor.”
    In June, six Christians who had converted to Islam and then back to Christianity filed a complaint to the Prosecutor General against the interior minister and his assistant, the head of the Civil Status Organization, for not implementing a previous court order issued in 2008, allowing them to be identified as Christians on their national ID cards.
    El-Naggar said the complaint is currently being investigated.
    “Failing to implement a court order without any justifiable reason is a crime,” he said. “If the interior minister and his assistant are proven guilty, they can receive jail time.”
    Gamil said there’s a double standard in dealing with conversions in Egypt. “When Christians decide to convert to Islam, they receive support from everyone including the authorities and their ID cards are changed to include their new religion in no time,” he said.
    “When it’s the other way round, Christians face obstacles and difficulties that obstruct their freedom of belief and the lifestyle they choose to have,” he added.
    Hossam Bahgat, director of the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights (EIPR), echoed Gamil’s concerns, saying that the interior ministry needed to end its “discriminatory policies” against Copts.
    El-Naggar filed another complaint to the Prosecutor General last week, demanding the rights of Coptic teenagers, whose fathers converted to Islam, to choose the religion documented on their national ID cards when they turn 16 without a court order.
    Children of fathers who convert from Christianity to Islam are automatically registered as Muslims on ID cards upon turning 16.
    “Why should Copts be forced to spend two to four years in court to receive a verdict stipulating their basic right to freedom of belief,” he asked. “Not having a national ID card obstructs education opportunities and compromises Copts’ safety,” he added.
    That’s the idea.

    El-Naggar said a fatwa from Al-Azhar supports his claim, stating that a person must recite the shehada (basic statement of Islamic faith declaring that there is no God but Allah, and Mohamed is his prophet) in order to be considered a Muslim.
    “People who claim that Egypt’s Copts exercise their full freedom of religion and expression are delusional,” Gamil said, adding that Coptic converts have to go through many hardships to receive their simplest right of recognition….
    Qur’an 2:256 claims there is “no compulsion in religion,” but coercion abounds in the letter and spirit of Islamic law, beginning with the three options offered to unbelievers in Qur’an 9:29: conversion, subjugation, or war. For the subjugated, the means of coercion — of making living non-Muslims’ life so inconvenient, so fraught with innumerable absurdities and discriminatory practices, and ultimately so dangerous as to make them convert — are only limited by the imaginations of their overlords.

  4. Raymond Ibrahim Interview: Egypt’s Copts and Lessons to be Learned

    Last week, FrontPage Magazine editor Jamie Glazov interviewed me concerning my recent congressional testimony on the plight of Egypt’s Christian Copts. A snippet of the interview follows:

    FP: The suffering of the Christian Copts of Egypt is getting worse, so it’s a great thing you were asked to testify at that hearing—and it’s a positive thing that they even had a hearing. For starters, while we know of your professional credentials concerning Islam, can you tell us a bit about your Coptic ancestry?
    Ibrahim: Sure. Though I was born and raised in the U.S., my parents were both Copts who emigrated from Egypt in the late 1960s. According to them, after Egypt’s 1952 revolution, they knew it was time to get going—knew that things would get progressively worse for Christians. And so they have. I believe they understood this, not because they were especially prescient, but rather because what is understood immediately and instinctively on the ground (in Egypt), often take decades to become intelligible thousands of miles away (in the West).

    In fact, it’s interesting for me to recall, in retrospect, how the things I and others constantly write about in order to get the West to understand Islam, Copts know instinctively—simply because they experience in reality what we know in theory. This disconnect is why a group like the Muslim Brotherhood, the mere mention of which for decades would make Coptic hair stand on end, is now touted as a “largely secular” group by the current U.S administration, which has been complacent, if not complicit, in the Brotherhood’s rise to power.

    This, by the way, is one of those things that are utterly incomprehensible to Copts and other minorities from the Muslim world—how the West can in any way, shape, or form support Islamic groups like the Brotherhood. Again, this is a reflection of their intimate acquaintance of these groups, their certain knowledge that the Brotherhood is practicing taqiyya merely to dupe their stronger, but naïve, infidel enemies. Likewise, regarding Islam’s inroads in the U.S., comments like “So – we left Egypt only to find the same sort of crap we left behind following us here in America!” are common among the diaspora. This, of course, is the sentiment of any number of non-Muslims—not to mention many nominal Muslims—who quit the Muslim world and come to the U.S…

    There is more.

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