“Stop Debating Armenian Genocide or Israel/Jews Will Get Hurt” sez Turkish Envoy
First the bad news -the rest is not much better-, though:
TOLERANT TURKS ELECT (ex) ISLAMIST PRES
Ex-Islamist? WTF? That’s like a little bit pregnant. New oxymoron. Does that make him an apostate? Ex-Islamist? Sort of like a chaste ho. Scroll down and read about Gul’s mentor, Erbakan.
Turks elect ex-Islamist president
Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul, a former Islamist, has been elected president in a parliamentary vote. He is the first politician with an Islamist background to become head of state since the creation of the deeply secular Turkish Republic in 1923. Mr Gul was elected in a third round of voting, after months of tension between Turkey’s ruling Islamist-rooted AK Party and the secular establishment.
* No such thing. Turkey was always deeply Islamic, it is only due to Ataturks reforms and the military that upholds secularism, otherwise Turkey would be just like Saudi Arabia. But Erdogan & Gul are working towards that…
On Monday the military warned about threats to the secular constitution.
Mr Gul, whose wife wears a Muslim headscarf, has pledged to respect Turkey’s secular institutions.
The headscarf is currently banned from public institutions in Turkey and Mr Gul has said wearing it is a matter of personal choice.
The Anti-Defamation League’s reversal last week of its position on the Armenian genocide has set off a flurry of diplomatic activity in Turkey and Israel.
Officials in Ankara and Jerusalem, in coordination with American Jewish leaders, were working this week to contain the fallout from the ADL’s statement, which recognized the World War I massacres of Armenians by Ottoman Turks as “tantamount to genocide.”
Jewish leaders warned that recognizing the genocide, as Congress is now considering, could undermine American strategic interests in the Middle East and Turkey’s robust military and economic partnership with Israel. Also deemed at risk was the security of Turkish Jewry, which sent a letter earlier this year opposing a congressional resolution on the matter.
Nabi Sensoy, Turkey’s ambassador in Washington, told JTA that his government was strongly opposed to any congressional action, but that the Turkish Jewish community had nothing to fear in any case. Sensoy was less sure that Turkey’s relations with Israel and the United States would survive a resolution unscathed.
“I cannot really dismiss that if this resolution does pass that there will be certain impacts on certain relationships,” Sensoy said. “There is no doubt about it.”
Of those raising the specter of reprisals against Turkish Jewry, Sensoy said, “I’m very disturbed to hear this kind of remark coming from anywhere. They seem to be forgetting the history of Turks and Jews, which goes back at least 500 years. We’ve always had the best of relations between Turks and Jews and the Turkish Jewish community is part and parcel, and an integral part, of the Turkish community.”
* Hmm, lets see: how many Jews are there left/alive in Turkey these days?
On Sunday, the ADL released a second statement reiterating its support for a joint Turkish-Armenian commission to investigate the matter — a move Turkey supports — and its opposition to a resolution in Congress. Foxman also wrote to Turkey’s prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, “to express regret for any pain we have caused to you and the Turkish people in these past few days.”
In Turkey, those steps were seen as backtracking. Erdogan said the ADL had rectified its “mistake,” according to the Turkish Daily News. Sensoy said he felt the ADL had reversed itself again and that its current position reflected a more “balanced situation.”
“We are expecting the American Jewish organizations to be neutral about this,” Sensoy said. “Although we’re aware of the fact that this is a very sensitive issue for the Israeli people and the Jewish community, what we have to seek is the truth.”
* Terrorism, blackmail and intimidation works. Every time.
ADL reinstates director who was first to say Turkey committed ‘genocide’
Bostom: Congress must recognize the Armenian Genocide
Endless delusions on display: “No genocide”; “Turkey is a loyal and trustworthy US Ally”; “Turkey is an Israeli Ally”; “Turkey is good to its Jews, but don’t pass the bills because of what Turkey will do to its Jews!”
All this and more from Andrew Bostom at the American Thinker.
Sample: “559 villages whose surviving inhabitants were converted to Islam with fire and sword; 568 churches thoroughly pillaged, destroyed and razed to the ground; of 282 Christian churches transformed into mosques; of 21 Protestant preachers and 170 Armenian priests who were, after enduring unspeakable tortures, murdered on their refusal to accept Islam.” Lepsius concluded with this rhetorical question: “Is this a religious persecution or is it not?”
And in his eloquent Wednesday 8/22/07 column “No Room to Deny Genocide” the Boston Globe’s Jeff Jacoby emphasized the nexus between the jihad genocide of the Armenians, the contemporary depredations of jihad, and the dangers of denial:
“And at a time when jihadist violence from Darfur to Ground Zero has spilled so much innocent blood, dissimulation about the jihad of 1915 [emphasis added] can only aid our enemies.”
This Turk doesn’t want to hear about it
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A poster on Jihad Watch nails it:
The contemptible and intolerable thing is that our misguided President, and our government generally, do not attribute this genocidal behavior to its true origin–Islam. They seem to think (or wish to think) it has something to do with tribalism, legitimate political grievances, or local geographical disputes.
The minority populations in Islamic lands, aside from being humiliated economic slaves, are all convenient hostages held to influence Western behavior–especially to attract jizya.
In our own defense, and in defense of the real refugees from Islamic genocide, we must quarantine the Islamic world. As part of this quarantine, immigration into Western lands from any foreign territory should be absolutlely restricted to non-Muslims only. As part of this quarantine, we must make it clear to the Muslim world that we know what Islam is–tyranny, with genocide of the “other” as its primary goal, and that we do not approve of it anywhere or accept it as a legitimate societal order under any conditions.
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The forgotten Holocaust: The Armenian massacre that inspired Hitler
When the Turkish gendarmes came for Mugrditch Nazarian, they did not give him time to dress, but took him from his home in the dead of night in his pyjamas.
The year was 1915, and his wife, Varter, knew that she was unlikely to see her husband alive again. Armenian men like him were being rounded up and taken away. In the words of their persecutors, they were being “deported” - but not to an earthly place.
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August 30th, 2007 at 9:46 am
The fact that Turkey, similar to Japan, is still refusing to recognise its history and the bloodshed it has done to others may also have reasons that have nothing to do with that virulent Turkish nationalism:
it makes Turkey immune against potential lawsuites being filed by Armenian lobby groups in France or the U.S.A. which could run into billions.
Remember how much activism and pressure it took to make Germany pay ‘compensation’ to former 3rd Reich slave workers.
August 30th, 2007 at 11:56 am
The Armenian genocide gets a free pass because it came at the right place at the right time. There was no TV to cover this atrocity and the motion picture industry was in its infancy. Plus the Ottoman Empire was crumbling and didn’t keep detailed records and ultimately was not occupied after its WW1 defeat. Contrast this to the Nazis-great record keepers, lots of film of the atrocities actually taking place and in the end, an occupation of Germany. Had the Nazi movement existed a few decades earlier the Holocaust might have slipped by everyone too.
The insane part of the whole Armenian genocide is that the post-Ottoman government could have easily blamed the whole thing on the Ottomans and be done with it. Instead, since the 1920’s the Turks have denied it all, giving a tacit seal of approval of the crimes of their Ottoman predecessors by saying they were innocent when the evidence says otherwise.
August 30th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
if the liberal left get their way these barbaric muslim scumbags will be joined at the hip with the rest of europe. the thought makes me puke.
February 19th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
I would like to see more of this on the Internet, and I can say I had goose bumps when I was reading this blog. I hope and pray that the day will come that turkey will stop living up to there name and man up, own up to what they did to my people in 1915. The world will not forget! Armenian’s will never forget and if they do not accept the truth, they will burn in hell! Our people have suffered so much because of the Genocide, and we will get redemption. TURKEY WILL PAY AND PAY AGAIN!!
Please boycott anything turkey makes, sells, and makes money from.