A chilling message for the infidels
* Abu Bakr Bashir, Indonesia’s version of OBL, is very straightforward about the goals of Islam and the global jihad. Whilst our respective governments and their kooky ‘experts on terrorism’ remain stuck on stupid and practice denial, old Bucktooth doesn’t beat around the bush.
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Ever since the first bombings, in which 202 people died, Indonesian authorities have been woolly in their response to terrorism for fear of alienating a largely anti-American population. Nothing illustrates this better than the appeal court’s judgment on Bashir’s early release – they took the decision even though he was implicated in a JI plot toverthrow Indonesia’s previous government, and despite independent testimony from senior JI operatives in custody that he had approved the 2002 bombings.
* Once again, Islam puts up big Ramadan numbers: 1,327 dead bodies
in 282 terror attacks in 20 countries during its holiest month.
Congratulations to the Religion of Peace!
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At 66, Bashir is a lanky, bespectacled Hadrami, who, like Osama Bin Laden, traces his family back to the Hadramawt region of Yemen. Surrounded by acolytes – including known JI bombers – serving him dates, he answered questions with a strong voice and easy laugh.
Scott Atran: What are the conditions for Islam to be strong?
Abu Bakar Bashir: The infidel country must be visited and spied upon. If we don’t come to them, they will persecute Islam. They will prevent non-Muslims converting.
SA: What can the West, especially the US, do to make the world more peaceful?
ABB: They have to stop fighting Islam. That’s impossible because it is sunnatullah [destiny, a law of nature], as Allah has said in the Koran. If they want to have peace, they have to accept to be governed by Islam.
SA: What if they persist?
ABB: We’ll keep fighting them and they’ll lose. The batil [falsehood] will lose sooner or later. I sent a letter to Bush. I said that you’ll lose and there is no point for you [to fight us]. This [concept] is found in the Koran.
SA: Have you met Osama Bin Laden?
ABB: No, no. I want to though. After my release, I hope I can meet him.
SA: Where will you find him?
ABB: If he still exists – but how could I? I have sympathy for his struggle. Osama is Allah’s soldier. When I heard his story, I came to the conclusion that he’s mujahid, a soldier of Allah.
SA: You will always be on his side?
ABB: His tactics and calculations may sometimes be wrong, he’s anordinary human being after all. I don’t agree with all of his actions. Osama believes in total war. This concept I don’t agree with. If this occurs in an Islamic country, the fitnah [discord] will be felt by Muslims. But to attack them in their country [America] is fine.
SA: So this fight will never end?
ABB: Never. This fight is compulsory. Muslims who don’t hate America sin. What I mean by America is George Bush’s regime. There is no iman [belief] if one doesn’t hate America.
SA: How can the American regime and its policies change?
ABB: We’ll see. As long as there is no intention to fight us and Islam continues to grow there can be peace. This is the doctrine of Islam. Islam can’t be ruled by others. Allah’s law must stand above human law. There is no [example] of Islam and infidels, the right and the wrong, living together in peace.
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* Yes indeed. Old Bucktooth is a good Muslim. He is doing the right thing for his religion. And you filthy kuffar, what are you gonna do about it..?
Today’s Koran Lesson:
In Islam, all non-Muslims are called unbelievers or infidels. The treatment of the infidels in Islam is divided into two categories. The polytheists, pagans, idolaters and heathens have the choice of converting to Islam or suffer death. The Jews and Christians, whom the Koran calls people of the book, can retain their religion but on the sufferance of accepting humiliation and subjugation to Islam and payment of Jizyah (poll-tax) to the Islamic rulers [For more detail read this article: Unfettered Religious Freedom in Islam – A Fact or Fiction? – by Alamgir Hussain].
Now, let us have a closer look at what the Koran says about the infidels:-
Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)
Qur’an 8:7 “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels out to the last.’”
Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”
Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah’s enemy.”
The Qur’an certainly proclaims that when the time is appropriate, Muslims must use force to convert the unbelievers to Islam. For the non-Muslims, the alternative to this is to pay the humiliating protection money (Jizya tax) or be killed (by beheading, of course). A militarily dominant Islam, without doubt, precludes the peaceful co-existence with the unbelievers if the Muslims have to abide strictly by the unalterable stipulations of the Qur’an.
* This is why we see very few “moderate” muslims coming out and speaking against the violence. There is so much overwhelming evidence stacked against them not able to be “moderate” because of the fundamental belief’s of Islam.
Referenced from Islam-Watch
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Orthodox Jew meets suicide bomber
‘Enjoy your tea … before I send you to hell’
KLEIN: Show me exactly where in the Quran it states you will get 72 dark-eyed virgins for blowing yourself up amongst civilians.Â
AHMED: You and I, we do not discuss Allah and the Quran. I will tell you more the moment that I will explode myself when there will be one dark-eyed virgin who will carry up my soul to the sky.
This is the important part of our mission – fulfilling Allah’s commandments and hoping to receive the prizes we were promised in the Quran.
How I wish some of the left wing diehards would read this.
Instead of calling some of us racists, bigots and islamophobes they could see for themselves what radical islam really is on about.
Bashir is direct and to the point. Why don’t people believe him?
It’s not as if moderates anywhere are getting on their high horses and denouncing him.
I’m a left wing die hard and when I read things like this to me it represents the extreme right. Remember, people like Wafa Sultan and Ayaan Hirsi Ali are considered moonbats in muslim countries. The relgious right are the same all over the world whether they are Xtain or Muslim. They are intolerant, usually racist, believe in using force and all the things that the right of politics endorses. People like Ahmadinejad are extreme right as far as I’m concerned. He kills homosexuals, he is racist and intolerant and is motivated by God. Bit like Bush really….
atheist
give me a break… there is no comparison with Bush, if there was people would be flogged in the streets and hanging from lampposts….. there would be no congress and the dhimmi democrats would not be able to bend over backwards in their attempts to appease radical islam.
what is extreme right? i was bought up believing hitler was extreme right, funny how he was a national socialist.
and the extreme right haven’t managed the bodycounts of stalin, mao, pol pot et al…
and if you want a current example of not right wing how about that wonderful marxist
in zimbabwe.
Gramfan, in my opinion,there is just islam, not radical and moderate islam.
Athiest, its your left wing pals that are inviting islam into the democratic west, to shore up the socialist vote. Racist bigots like me would prefer that they stayed in their countries. My solution would be for the west to use their own oil (theres loads of it) till we can find an alternative.Then we can leave each other alone.
I once worked in an office where this self decribed lefty once turned up to work wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with a picture of Osama Bin Laden on the back. Back then I was shocked, now it’s exactly what I would expect from you leftards.
And of course, as we al know, it’s the brave left-wingers who are at the forefront of exposing jihad and despots like Achmadinnerjad, and definetally not inviting him in and cheering him when he talks crap at US universities. Oh no, the lefties would never do that.
Leftism is a kind of arrested development, as every post by atheist shows.
The right wing solution to the middle east problem: Nuke the whole place.
The Ahmadinejad solution to the middle east problem: Nuke Israel.
See the pattern…
The left wing solution: destroy every Mosque, synagogue and church and install the internet into every home in the middle east. Education will eventually lead to atheisim. Scandinavian countries are proof of this. The most highly educated people on the planet just happen to be majority atheist as well. This is not a coincidence.
“Savitch sez
Leftism is a kind of arrested development, as every post by atheist shows.”
I think you are onto something, Savitch! There is definitely a lack of logic there.
the left wing solution…actually not that different to the islamic solution, catch the kids young and brainwash them to listen to the voice of the great leader.
not much humanity in either.
Atheist said * The right wing solution to the middle east problem: Nuke the whole place.
Not quite. Something along these lines: Roadmap to peace; “two-state solution”; Jerusalem as “international city”. Nuke option “on the table”.
* The Ahmadinejad solution to the middle east problem: Nuke Israel.
Something like that. Israeli response – “Samson Option”? (search)
Islamic solution – global Caliphate under Sharia Law – Mahdi returns as ruler.
Search – Qiyamah dajjal
“Reconstructionist / dominionist solution – “Old Testament” theocracies, using Israel as a blueprint – Jesus Christ returns to reign over “reconstructed” world.
Search – Rushdoony
“Judeo-noahide solution – Israel under Mosaic Law; “Noahide Nations” under Noahide Law; Jews subject to whole of law; gentiles (Noahides) subject to seven noahide laws, all of which carry death penalty. “Moshiach” ruling from rebuilt Jerusalem temple.
Search – noahide laws b’nei noach (nascent) Sanhedrin
“New Age” solution – process of planetary cleansing removing “negativity”, insufficiently evolved persons; population reduction from 6 billion to 2 billion – Aquarian Age, led by “world teacher for all humanity” who will be accepted as Moshiach / Christ / Imam Mahdi;
“Christ” is an “office” to which all can aspire – “Christed” persons might include Jesus Christ, Mohamed, Maitreya, Mahdi etc. Transition from Piscean Age (Christianity) to Aquarian Age.
Search – Gaia “sword of cleavage” Findhorn Gore
Biblical prophecy solution – Rapture of the Church, Ezekiel 38/39 (Persia, Gog etc) invasion of Israel, rise of false Messiah (Antichrist), Great Tribulation, Armageddon, Millennial reign of Jesus Christ.
Search – rapture “jacob’s trouble” “great tribulation” armageddon millennium etc
(general thrust of the various scenarios, no allowance for differences of view or opinion among adherents of various scenarios, which do differ quite widely)
Atheist,
Your clever atheist Swedish pals will all be believers in allah (or dead) in one generation, if present trends continue.
The real problem with Christianity, is that not enough Christians follow the example of its founder. The problem with islam is too many muslims follow the example of its founder. There are too many problems with socialism to list, but suffice to say, it has failed dismally wherever it has reared its ugly head
“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord”. Hitler…
One example of a good Christian obeying the word of the bible.
There are hundreds of quotes from people such as Jerry Falwell and other fundamentalists that are equally disturbing. Do you remember when he said the US deserved the 9/11 attacks because of the atheists, gays, feminists that have overrun the place ?
Atheist
To try and claim Hitler was a Christian is absurd, even for a leftard.Apart from being a madman I believe he shared your atheist beliefs. However I will not use that as an arguement to suggest that all atheists are like Hitler, that type of logic is the sole preserve of leftards and islamists,who have a great deal in common.
atheist you idiot. Hitler was an atheist. He put plenty of Christians in jail too.
You rail about all religions being violent – equally so, you claim.
The record of pigslam proves the outright lie that is.
I am an agnostic and as such I declare the atheism is a religion in as much that you have to BELIEVE that G-d doesn’t exist.
Therefore your illogical rants make sense in light of your belief in atheism.
Those who haven’t lost the ability to doubt even their own perceptions and beliefs are most often of the agnostic mindset. Agnostics don’t claim to know what the real G-d is or isn’t.
Agnostics are simply too busy with more important stuff.
And right now the cult islam is the looming threat not only to all real religions but to agnostics and yes, atheists as well.
Since you are not only an atheist but a leftard socialist as well.. boy.. you are in need of some serious deprogramming.